Major JUB Meetup

[cgymike]

Hell, I can walk there.

Lex

Yeah kinda dumpy area but oddly miss it. Lived at 11th and York btw.

[G-Lexington]

Between the drunk house and the Botanical Gardens? Nice.

Lex

[cgymike]

Between the drunk house and the Botanical Gardens? Nice.

Lex

Yeah like I said kinda dumpy area. Old apartments and mean manager as I recall. Also he was obsessed about people parking "illegally" and always threatened to call the cops immediately or have them towed.

[refujiunderground]

^ I only read about it second-hand here on JUB. I think some of the participants are still around.

like who?????????

[ChickenGuy]

I was thinking in the jub meet thread on the other side of the site about a couple of small(8-12 max) in the New York area which has never surprisingly had one, which frankfrank was enthusiastic about(one in late April, not coinciding with a larger proposed Chicago meet from kevbo) and one in mid September.

You know, they could be tied in to complement each other on successive weeks, with say the NY/NJ one from about Thu-Tue, followed by the Chicago one just two days later on the following Thu-Tue. People could fly from one meet to the next.

And your Jersey City part should bring in loki81 and refuji, and your Brooklyn part should bring in NaughtyArousal.

I realise of course that most people wouldn't be able to spare the time and resources for all that, lol, I'm already doing what I complained about others doing in my previous post - wildly speculating.

[ChickenGuy]

I suppose what I'm really trying to do is to figure out something more for myself to do (theoretically) because were I ever to return to the U.S. I certainly wouldn't just go for a weekend. I wish I had more relatives and/or friends over there. I'd like to see places especially in New York and California but I guess I'd feel a bit like a fish out of water, it'd all be a bit overwhelming.

[cgymike]

^How about in old York at ulom's pad? Yorkshire pudding here we come!

[ChickenGuy]

I met Sir ULOM last year one evening in York as I was travelling south. I was treated at an Italian restaurant, then we went a walk by the Minster, and then I was driven back to my lodgings by him.

Looking back on it I wasn't very good company, my personality and communication skills were lacking.

[cgymike]

I met Sir ULOM last year one evening in York as I was travelling south. I was treated at an Italian restaurant, then we went a walk by the Minster, and then I was driven back to my lodgings by him.

Looking back on it I wasn't very good company, my personality and communication skills were lacking.

Really? I would have thought you would get on with him...

btw any luck meeting your man there in Brighton?

[ChickenGuy]

We got on fine, but my (very likely) Asperger's traits mean that I always SEEM to be completely disinterested and disengaged with people, and I never look them in the eye. Couple that with a very frustrating tendency I have not to speak much to people, even if I want to, and the result is that I'm sure people get the wrong impression from meeting me.

[frankfrank]

Well,i'm out as this is only for Americans.

No, not true. I've met people from Canada, Ireland, Scotland, and London at JUB meets in the US. At one point Ravenstar (or was it Kester?) thought of coming to one of the meets, but it didn't happen. Nothing says, either, that only Americans can put meets together - nothing is stopping a meet from happening in South Africa, London, Montreal, Japan, etc.

I would actually consider trying to get to a meet even in Australia. Sometimes an overseas trip is just sitting there "in waiting," looking for any valid or even flimsy excuse to happen, haha.

[CupidBoy]

I met Sir ULOM last year one evening in York as I was travelling south. I was treated at an Italian restaurant, then we went a walk by the Minster, and then I was driven back to my lodgings by him.

Looking back on it I wasn't very good company, my personality and communication skills were lacking.

How was the sex though?

[72-Jay]

I simply tolerate the snow here in Denver. i sure as hell don't love it.

The snow here in Colorado doesn't really bother me...usually bet a bit more than Denver where I'm at (don't care for driving in it, but other than that no big deal) Does look nice too

Whenever and wherever this happens, you boys need to take a lot of pictures. I want to see these guys having good, clean fun.

Agree there...you guys that need to take (and post) lots of pic's ! LOL

[Anders123]

I would actually consider trying to get to a meet even in Australia.

An Australia meet would be great, but there really aren't that many active members from around here. Plus, those that are active seem to be spread out pretty evenly across the country.

A while ago, ashonfire and I agreed to set up a meeting when we were both on break. Unfortunately, now that we're both on holiday, he seems to be busy on the weekends whereas I'm typically busy during the week. I'm sure we'll work something out, but I can't even imagine the organisational nightmare that would come with a major meet.

If any other Australians wanted to set one up, I'd do what I could to get there, but I'll leave the planning up to them. I don't need that kind of stress in my life.

[looseliam]

How the hell do you figure? Toronto is like a 6 hour drive, the Dells are only 3...

The flight to Toronto is only like 1.5 hours

I consider looseliam a friend...

j/k

Cold comfort, indeed.

I lived in the East Mountains all last year, up a terrible, steep, and crooked gravel driveway. Had to park at the bottom and walk up. BUT, I lived in Anchorage from 2006 to 2009, so these things don't scare me.

Love, love, LOVE Albuquerque, so you come see me sometime when you come visit your auntie. Always welcome. That's a Southern thang (our paraphrase of Martha Stewart.)

I had a friend who lived in Anchorage a bit ago. I recall talking to her whilst watching the snow fall on downtown Chicago on a 20 degree day. It was warmer in Anchorage that evening than Chicago. I was not happy.

[Elwood]

No, not true. I've met people from Canada, Ireland, Scotland, and London at JUB meets in the US. At one point Ravenstar (or was it Kester?) thought of coming to one of the meets, but it didn't happen. Nothing says, either, that only Americans can put meets together - nothing is stopping a meet from happening in South Africa, London, Montreal, Japan, etc.

I would actually consider trying to get to a meet even in Australia. Sometimes an overseas trip is just sitting there "in waiting," looking for any valid or even flimsy excuse to happen, haha.

Yes I am one of the Canadians lol. Frank I have all ready organized a semi successful Montreal meet. How ever, I have since tried organizing another two Montreal meets but with no success.

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No, not true. I've met people from Canada, Ireland, Scotland, and London at JUB meets in the US. At one point Ravenstar (or was it Kester?) thought of coming to one of the meets, but it didn't happen. Nothing says, either, that only Americans can put meets together - nothing is stopping a meet from happening in South Africa, London, Montreal, Japan, etc.

I would actually consider trying to get to a meet even in Australia. Sometimes an overseas trip is just sitting there "in waiting," looking for any valid or even flimsy excuse to happen, haha.

Yes I am one of the Canadians lol. Frank I have all ready organized a semi successful Montreal meet. How ever, I have since tried organizing another two Montreal meets but with no success.

[GamerBear]

^ I only read about it second-hand here on JUB. I think some of the participants are still around.

You sure it wasn't the Portland, Oregon JUB meet?

[-Callum-]

Montreal is nice...hoping on a wing and a prayer to get into McGill for medical school. *mumble, mumble*

Anything in the Northeast works, but Midwest (Chicago) is probably best since people would just meet in the middle...

[Kien]

Fine, Kien and I will find our own group

I approve.

[G-Lexington]

I didn't go to the San Antonio meet, but they phoned me from there,and passed the phone around. I talked o GL and Circe and a bunch of others. Didn't talk to Elvin, but that's not too surprising, from what I undersand...

Lex

[frankfrank]

You sure it wasn't the Portland, Oregon JUB meet?

Yeah he meant Portland, of course - I don';t think there waas ever a Seattle meet. I'm one of those who refuji asked about, who is/was around at the time. As you know, I wasn't aware of any of the drama until entirely after the fact - only that a couple of the people there were dead tired and wiped out by that and/or other circumstances.

[cgymike]

Yes I am one of the Canadians lol. Frank I have all ready organized a semi successful Montreal meet. How ever, I have since tried organizing another two Montreal meets but with no success.

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Calgary would be ideal - a short drive - but alas no one!




Yes I am one of the Canadians lol. Frank I have all ready organized a semi successful Montreal meet. How ever, I have since tried organizing another two Montreal meets but with no success.

Calgary would be ideal - a short drive - but alas no one!

[Sausy]

LOL Chicken Guy, the itinerary of a New York area meet seemlessly leading into a Chicago meet would be terrific if possible, but alas as you say it 's more fun to speculate about then practical....maybe some people could attend either, a few could attend both but I don't want in these times economically anyone to break the bank as fun as it would be. I'm still interested in doing a New York area meet and I will put an updated proposed meet thread in the meets forum as this whole idea is still something I would like to see how much realistic interest can be gathered in the next several months.

As for palbert people I'm sure will want to use the buses and subways too and if it's not best for you to do a lot of walking you can join walk some and join us at the spots we plan to focus our visit. Being in the New York area yourself your own suggestions for places of interest definitely would be encouraged.I'm in Jersey City and there is still a lot about NYC I haven't gotten around to.

We can do this if enough interest(hell,even if only 4 or 5 locals end up showing up it would be great) in late April and/or mid September when the weather isn't too oppressively humid....two small or medium sized mees would be great. Most importantly, unlike otther meets there will be a great deal of input on where to go and we'll do things free form. If five people want to do one thing and another group really wants to do something else I want as much of the New York experience to be what those attending want it to be, so while lots will be done together New York is the Big Apple and some may want to take a bigger bite They'd be encouraged to do so and not be subject to the whims of an organized itinerary.

[ravenstar]

No, not true. I've met people from Canada, Ireland, Scotland, and London at JUB meets in the US. At one point Ravenstar (or was it Kester?) thought of coming to one of the meets, but it didn't happen. Nothing says, either, that only Americans can put meets together - nothing is stopping a meet from happening in South Africa, London, Montreal, Japan, etc.

I would actually consider trying to get to a meet even in Australia. Sometimes an overseas trip is just sitting there "in waiting," looking for any valid or even flimsy excuse to happen, haha.

I was planning to attend the Vegas meet back in 2009 (I think) but then the global financial crisis hit & I lost my job.

Given enough time I'd be up to consider flying in for a meet.

[Rickrock]

I have some interest in meeting in either Chicago or New Jersey/New York, but I am worried about if I will fit in.

Just something to think about and keep in mind; the Gay Olympics is scheduled for the summer of 2014 in Cleveland. I doubt that I would be able to host though.

[ashonfire]

My recommendations for regions and JUBbers I expect/demand to attend:

European - Either NW Germany or Netherlands - Corny, geloge, treanir, Seghers, Harke, Paws

Jeez, that's handsome meet-up! Put Nishin in there as well and I'd start looking at booking a flight.

There was a Melbourne meet-up a few years back which I did not attend. I'm fairly social but meeting big groups like that seems far less fun to me than getting to know people one on one or in small groups.

[Just: Mills]

Are we real friends?

I have met quite a lot of JUBbers in many different places in the world, over the years, and I consider them all to be friends!

[JayHawk]

So who is Julie the cruise director?

Gurl you gots some work to do......

[JohannBessler]

I read there was some major drama at the Seattle Meet up

The Portland hookup did not meet the usual definition of a meeting. You'd think that a JUB meeting would be one long event, at which everybody participated, after which everybody went home.

In fact, the JUB meet lasted two or three days. Some came early, some came very late, and at all times, people came and went. The drama occurred in a relatively short window of time, so many didn't see it; others saw only a portion of it.

One incident involved people who didn't understand the gravity of a situation that developed, while another incident involved overt rudeness; a third incident involved different takes on the same situation.

Some, however, rate that JUB as one of the best ones ever conducted.

That JUB meet sure would make a good novella, told by a number of participants, relating each of their perspectives, in the spirit of the movie Rashoman.

PS. I know all of this because I asked a 1000 questions...

[Laufey]

I would love to but I probably won't afford to go abroad in the next two years or so.

If you wanna have a Europe-America meetup you are welcome to come here

[unloadonme]

^^ It was also held at someone's home which was probably a recipe for disaster. Better to meet on neutral territory.

[Nishin]

I would love to but I probably won't afford to go abroad in the next two years or so.

If you wanna have a Europe-America meetup you are welcome to come here

I'd love to visit Iceland !!
We could have an epic orgy on a glacier with an active volcano in the background or something... yay I can definitely picture that

[Laufey]

Sure. I've always wanted to camp on a glacier.

Yes people actually do that, you just need good winter tents.

[rareboy]

The Portland hookup did not meet the usual definition of a meeting. You'd think that a JUB meeting would be one long event, at which everybody participated, after which everybody went home.

In fact, the JUB meet lasted two or three days. Some came early, some came very late, and at all times, people came and went. The drama occurred in a relatively short window of time, so many didn't see it; others saw only a portion of it.

One incident involved people who didn't understand the gravity of a situation that developed, while another incident involved overt rudeness; a third incident involved different takes on the same situation.

Some, however, rate that JUB as one of the best ones ever conducted.

That JUB meet sure would make a good novella, told by a number of participants, relating each of their perspectives, in the spirit of the movie Rashoman.

PS. I know all of this because I asked a 1000 questions...

Ok Spill.

And if you can't do it in Public....send me a gossipy PM please.

[JayHawk]

JUB Naked Glacier Meet

[unloadonme]

^ I don't think they'd look at their best out in the cold like that.

[JohannBessler]

Ok Spill.

And if you can't do it in Public....send me a gossipy PM please.

I had to piece it together by asking a bunch of people. One person in particular shed the most amount of light on the sequence of events. Despite this, one key piece of the puzzle is missing: What Did Mr. X Say At the Doorway?

^Sounds like a murder mystery, huh?

I'll shoot you a PM later on, Rareboy. In order to protect the innocent, names will be changed.

[rareboy]

JUB Naked Glacier Meet

And after:

[HunterM]

Ok Spill.

And if you can't do it in Public....send me a gossipy PM please.

Then you can forward it to me.

[JohannBessler]

Rareboy, I have decided to post in public. Inquiring minds want to know. Let it be known, however, that I have changed names, and changed medical conditions, in order to protect the privacy of the individuals.

My best correspondent was a man by the name of Mr. Sutterthwaite. He's a quiet, shy, retiring type who dislikes drama with a vengeance, so most of the time, he looks at life through a third-party point of view, preferring to observe rather than get directly involved. With this in mind, I judged him quite accurate about the things he sees; he doesn't realize it, but he has an undeveloped talent for reporting.

Much of the action centered around Alexander Burr. I'd known M. Burr for years. Despite the fact we didn't share political views, I quite liked him. I found him a nice, gentle person, and pretty goddamn good looking, too. But recently, his personality had begun to change. I noticed a growing tendency on his part to act ruder and ruder, to the point of cruelty at times. I feared that he suffered from some kind of illness, but continued to hope for the best.

The JUB meet occurred over a period of days. A bunch of them got together one day and visited the Portland Public Square. George Washington, who suffered from severe hypoglycemia, began to feel weak, dizzy, and disoriented. He very nearly passed out right there on the cobblestone pavement. Later on, he felt hurt because no one, in spite of the fact that he neared falling into a diabetic coma, felt willing to help him. One man in particular, Christopher Robin, stood nearby and did nothing.

I see Christopher Robin as one of the nicest men on JUB, but the truth of the matter is that he simply didn't recognize the symptoms of hypoglycemia. In short, he didn't realize anything was wrong. It wasn't his fault--he simply didn't know. But George Washington didn't realize this. His feelings got badly bruised by the inaction of nearby JUBbers.

At another time, they'd all agreed to go someplace, so they met at a train depot. Henry David Thoreau walks with a pronounced limp due to a childhood accident, so he must carry around equipment. Due to this equipment, he began to run a little bit late.

Meanwhile, back at the train station, the other JUBbers discussed what to do. Some of them eventually decided to go on without Mr. Thoreau, while leaving James Fenimore Cooper behind to wait for him. Mr. Cooper and Mr. Thoreau would take a later train.

Mr. Cooper became quite enraged at this decision, and when they met up again, he let his displeasure known in most uncertain terms. It was rude, he contended, to leave Mr. Thoreau behind like that.

At this point, I confess that I can see both sides equally. One gentleman felt enraged at what he perceived as rudeness, while the other gentlemen, faced with a train dilemma, simply didn't know how to address the situation.

Later on, everybody gathered at Alexander Burr's place. Mr. Burr had decided to watch a comic on TV who told homophobic jokes. Mr. Burr thought these jokes were funny. Mr. Sutterthwaite didn't say anything, but inside he left shocked and dismayed--and furious--at the insensitivity he saw.

The time came about that George and Martha Washington decided to retire for the night. They said their goodbyes, when Alexander Burr made a comment that,"now, they're going to go have 'old man sex'" Some scattered guffaws erupted in the room, but most people--including Mr. Sutterthwaite--felt appalled at the insensitivity of the remark. Alexander Burr followed the Washingtons out the door and made a comment that Mr. Sutterthwaite didn't hear, but apparently, judging by the reactions of everybody, the comment was so extremely rude that it started the Revolutionary War. (Hence the title of the mystery: What Alexander Burr Said )

The JUB meet ended, but he'd already started the War. It spilled over onto the pages of JUB, which led to a sequence of events that got Mr. Burr banned.

If anybody involved reads this, please be aware that I hope I didn't offend, or unintentionally give away any identities. There seems little doubt, however, that the sequence of events is interesting. Truth is stranger than fiction.

With kindest regards,

JB

[HunterM]

OMG! I missed all that??? OK, I'm going to the next JUB meet!

[pat grimshaw]

Johann, your description makes it sound real dramatic and glamorous.

But I reckon if they make a movie of that they should have Richard Gere playing "Alexander Burr".

[unloadonme]

Rareboy, I have decided to post in public. Inquiring minds want to know. Let it be known, however, that I have changed names, and changed medical conditions, in order to protect the privacy of the individuals.

Much of this is still available in all its unexpurgated glory:

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/thre...gon-August-5-7

[rareboy]

The question is....why didn't anyone see that Mr. Burr was a lush who couldn't hold his liquor?

[Corny]

I actually might be going to Iceland either this or next year. So if anybody wants to tag along, let me know

[JohannBessler]

lol You know his real identity, you stinker. :P

Whatever the cause, Mr.Burr started the war he would not win. Mr. Burr died in the duel.

[JohannBessler]

Much of this is still available in all its unexpurgated glory:

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/thre...gon-August-5-7

Actually, Unloadonme, that thread contains none of the drama. I looked.

One thing I found fascinating: several people didn't see any drama. According to Mr. Sutterthwaite, this is due to the fact that the meet wasn't one single meeting, but a three-day event in which people came and went.

[Laufey]

I actually might be going to Iceland either this or next year. So if anybody wants to tag along, let me know

Cool. Be sure to send me a message if you want someone to show you around

[Corny]

I plan to drive around a lot with a few stops and a tent in the trunk for sure. But no detailed plans so far

[Nishin]

I want in !!
And canoeing between icebergs, like the nice advertising they stick to the metro walls to promote travelling there ...