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    Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    During the election they said Obama's chance of winning depended on the Black, Latino, young peoples and womens vote. No where did they mention the gay vote.

    Obama even knew in 2008, that his chance of winning depended on the minorities coming together and making a large percentage of the vote, that even if he got a smaller percentage of the white vote compared to the republicans, he would still win.

    Gay people are White, Black, Latino e.tc so the percentage of them voting should make a difference, plus their influence on women voting. The media know this, but once again we are hidden in the shadows, what's so wrong with us?

    When do you think the republicans will realize, them winning also depends on us?

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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    When there are more of us out and visible and voting Dem than there are Fundamentalist lunatics.
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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    Republicans will never realize this.

    They really, really do believe that homos will care more about their pocket book than their civil rights.

    We have enough examples on JUB to demonstrate that the right thinks that homos can be won over purely on this basis.

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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    What Rareboy said. I've seen pictures of the house Chris Barron and his husband live in and their vacation house. The financial indigities many LGBT couples face under DOMA and state laws aren't an issue for them. Thus,they can support Republicians who seek to make LGBT people second class citizens.
    For being Conservative,they sure support a party that wants to get into people's personal lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    When there are more of us out and visible and voting Dem than there are Fundamentalist lunatics.
    I will add - when we aren't so self-hating and hiding that they could just dismiss us as "too small percentage to matter." For every out gay man there are five closeted ones. Can you imagine if we all stood up for our rights without shame?
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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    To answer r0ckst4r's question with a question, "why should they?"

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    When there are more of us out and visible and voting Dem than there are Fundamentalist lunatics.
    And I will add when there are more straight Republicans and Democrats who think that those opposed to us should be the issue, rather than how many Gays vote for one party or the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Republicans will never realize this.

    They really, really do believe that homos will care more about their pocket book than their civil rights.

    We have enough examples on JUB to demonstrate that the right thinks that homos can be won over purely on this basis.
    And that was actually quite hateful.

    I'd be willing to wager that there's an equal number of American Queers, if not greater, who can't wait for the day when who we choose to vote for, or the letter that follows that candidate's name doesn't end with the letter D.

    I've spent most of my adult life working in the public sector, and doing business with the public.

    I have actually had customers say to me, "Before I do business with you, I want to know how you're voting."

    My answer? "Exactly like you are!"

    When they seek to clarify, I answer this way, "Any damned way that I please!"
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    I've said that here on numerous occasions. I want to vote based on particular people and politics, not social issues. Sadly, the current GOP is denying me the option.
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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    Why attract a very small percentage of the population when they have a large number of churchgoers to scarevote for them?

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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    Republicans won't admit they need to treat gays as human until they've lost enough elections in a row to pound into their heads that championing religious bigotry is not the way to make friends and influence people.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Republicans won't admit they need to treat gays as human until they've lost enough elections in a row to pound into their heads that championing religious bigotry is not the way to make friends and influence people.
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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    We are less than the millions of women voters, black voters, latino voters, etc. as a numeral demographic. Most of us are also a part of these same demographics. I don't believe the power of our vote is being marginalized. We are a significant force, although it would be nice to have that other 25% voting to stand up for themselves and their community.

    At least at JUB it was less than 8%.
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    To those saying our vote doesn't matter, cause who aren't the majority, maybe in the past. America is no longer just a white church going country. Year on year, the amount of different ethnic groups, atheists, those who support abortion, gay rights e.t.c is growing. The gay vote does matter! For someone to to win the presidency can mean 1 % or less, in a state.... and I am sure that in total, the LGBT is more than that. Put all these minorities together and you have a problem for the Republicans
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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    maybe because we are seen as single issue voters.


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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    So what are the stats on the percentage of gay votes that went for "Hussein", does anyone know? The talking heads keep rattling of percentages of black, Latino and women voters, but never the gay ones.

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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by bendted View Post
    So what are the stats on the percentage of gay votes that went for "Hussein", does anyone know? The talking heads keep rattling of percentages of black, Latino and women voters, but never the gay ones.
    Because. Gay. People. Don't. Tell. Pollsters. They. Are. Gay.

    Honestly, how difficult is this concept to grasp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bendted View Post
    So what are the stats on the percentage of gay votes that went for "Hussein", does anyone know? The talking heads keep rattling of percentages of black, Latino and women voters, but never the gay ones.
    76% for Mr Obama according to HRC, from a total of 6 million LGBT voters.


    http://www.hrc.org/blog/entry/new-po...oral-successes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Because. Gay. People. Don't. Tell. Pollsters. They. Are. Gay.

    Honestly, how difficult is this concept to grasp?

    Doubtful. Only closet cases won't tell.
    Last edited by bendted; November 14th, 2012 at 11:57 AM.

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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    Seriously? Did you really honestly just say that? A random person asks you on the street, I can promise you 8 out of 10 people won't admit they're gay, let alone someone that calls you anonymously on the phone. Most out people that I know have multiple issues related to how open they are exactly about their sexuality with strangers.
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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by bendted View Post
    So what are the stats on the percentage of gay votes that went for "Hussein", does anyone know? The talking heads keep rattling of percentages of black, Latino and women voters, but never the gay ones.
    An exit poll done on election day of 6,625 gay voters I posted before showed it closer to 90%.

    http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/blog..._supporte.html

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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Seriously? Did you really honestly just say that? A random person asks you on the street, I can promise you 8 out of 10 people won't admit they're gay, let alone someone that calls you anonymously on the phone. Most out people that I know have multiple issues related to how open they are exactly about their sexuality with strangers.
    Lat time a stranger asked me, I asked him right back, "Why -- looking for a date?"

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Last time a stranger asked me, I asked him right back, "Why -- looking for a date?"
    OMG, what a perfect answer (to a stranger asking about being gay). Brilliant!

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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by r0ckst4r View Post
    Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    I'm not aware of whether exit polls ask of people's sexual identity.

    I think I recall reading somewhere that, in Election 2008, Barack Obama received over 70 percent of the vote from LGBT people. John McCain was somewhere just over 25 but less than 30 percent.

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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    I finally read an article about this.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/16/us...tory.html?_r=0

    Only thing I heard leaving my poll is "be sure to get a sticker" to which I said, no thanks. I guess this only happens in bigger cities or swing states. I live in GA and it has always went Rep since I can remember. That Austin Scott (who ran unopposed) guy has an office down the street from my apt but I never see him there.
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    Re: Why won't media acknowledge Gay vote?

    I just tweeted Chuck Todd at The Daily Rundown about this and asked him to address it in the post-election autopsy he is conducting.

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