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    Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    The governor has been been pilloried by some Republicans for repeatedly talking up Obama’s storm response. Romney staffers were reportedly also ticked that Christie skipped a nearby rally in Pennsylvania over the weekend.
    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...#ixzz2BdUtIlvd

    Oh Oh.

    Are the long knives going to be out because Christie was just doing his job?

    I have to say that I loved the look on the faces of the poli-ops over at Fox and Fiends when Christie told them last week that he didn't give a damn about presidential politics.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Chris is a kick ass guvnor

    Wonder if any progressives will give him credit for his work

    ESP during Sandy

    He was (and is) amazing

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    There are also so many other people to blame.

    The (Toronto) Star nicely sums it up I think.

    Newt Gingrich, a former speaker of the U.S. House and a contender for the Republican presidential nomination this year, said today that party strategists were mistaken in believing the unemployment rate and struggling economy would doom Obama to a one-term presidency.

    “We were wrong,” he said on “CBS This Morning.” He and other Republicans, such as Karl Rove, former President George W. Bush’s chief political adviser, “misunderstood what was happening in the country.”
    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/us...-we-were-wrong

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    "I see your true colors shining through"

    Great song

    True Colors

    What is CNN - MSNBC - Fox to do ?

    Fox will just rewind to the tape of about 4 years ago and press play

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Well, one thing is a certainty: Christie will never get support to run for prezy from his fellow Republicans. Ever.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Chris is a kick ass guvnor

    Wonder if any progressives will give him credit for his work

    ESP during Sandy

    He was (and is) amazing
    Yes I think so. My opinion of Chris Christie has gone up considerably over the past few weeks.



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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Chris is a kick ass guvnor

    Wonder if any progressives will give him credit for his work

    ESP during Sandy

    He was (and is) amazing

    Well, except for that gay bigotry thing he's got going on.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    I have to say that even I would be likely to vote for Christie because of his actions during this crisis.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    In retrospect, Christie should have been VP nominee.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by bendted View Post
    Well, one thing is a certainty: Christie will never get support to run for prezy from his fellow Republicans. Ever.
    Just like the Christian Right would never support a Mormon to run for presidency? Ever?
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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Had Christie been on the ticket, Romney likely would have won. Ryan couldn't even carry his home state of Wisconsin and Romney continually had to distance himself from Ryan and the Ryan budget to try to capture Independent moderates. I'm glad though that Christie will continue to govern in NJ.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    I'm no fan of Christie but for republicans to blame him for the election outcome is pretty lame. If the failure of Romney to win is being measured against a hurricane and Christie leading his state through a disaster, then Romney didn't stand a chance in the first place. I thought Christie has demonstrated good leadership in his handling of the disaster.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Just like the Christian Right would never support a Mormon to run for presidency? Ever?
    I know, remember the hue and cry when "legitimate" Akin put his foot in his mouth, and yet there they were - supporting just a couple of weeks later.
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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I have to say that I loved the look on the faces of the poli-ops over at Fox and Fiends when Christie told them last week that he didn't give a damn about presidential politics.
    That's the kind of things that will make independents view a Republican more highly.

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Chris is a kick ass guvnor

    Wonder if any progressives will give him credit for his work

    ESP during Sandy

    He was (and is) amazing
    If that profile could be made to last, he'd have a definite advantage.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Just like the Christian Right would never support a Mormon to run for presidency? Ever?
    I suspect many are regretting it. There's a deep streak of "God will only support us if we support true believers" through much of the elephangelical world, and I was seriously surprised it was suppressed this well this time around. Next time I doubt it will be so easy; there will be 'repentance' over having supported a heretic -- enough I think Romney has destroyed any chance Huntsman might have had.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Yes, I think Christie did an amazing job handling the storm. It is clear that he deeply cares about people above politics... hopefully he isn't poisoned as the next election cycle approaches.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Christie did what only a good person would do in a time of crisis... be there for his people. Put aside political labels, and thank the President for his help. He's a decent guy and if republicans ever want to win anything they better come back to decency and moderation. I have a feeling Christie will be left out to dry by republicans and probably kicked out of the party though. Republicans are becoming incredibly reactionary.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Chris is a kick ass guvnor

    Wonder if any progressives will give him credit for his work

    ESP during Sandy

    He was (and is) amazing
    I'll give him credit for it, he was & is doing his job (that in itself shouldn't be amazing, it should be expected) Telling Faux News to go jump in Lake Hopatcong (figuratively, with a Jersey reference) was hysterical. Now if he'd just admit to being wrong about marriage, I might give him a hug (again, figuratively, don't think my arms would go around him )

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    I would still not want him to win anything more than his current position. Bill Baher said it crystal clear - you don't just vote for one guy, you vote for all the crazies he has no choice but to drag with him. Until the GOP has purged the religious right and its tumors of backward intrusive pseudo-morality, I don't want them within a mile of the White House.
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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Loving this thread

    I have rareboy voting for CC

    CC might be in the perfect job for him

    Guvnor

    Not sure

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Loving this thread

    I have rareboy voting for CC

    CC might be in the perfect job for him

    Guvnor

    Not sure

    Actually Chris Christie is the one who would have me voting for him based on his performance. Others opinions are of no consequence in my assessment of his qualities. I could see them myself.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    I was impressed with Christie.

    A balls out public servant who has clearly demonstrated what America looks like when we're not hiding behind lapel pins, ideology, rhetoric, or party, or labels, and wasn't interested in any "photo-ops."

    Chris Christie is "genuine" in my eyes, and you can't fake that.

    If the Republicans want to win more elections, they should follow his lead.

    I'm impressed with the Man.

    Friends of mine asked me what I thought about "the politics" of all of that during Sandy, and I pointed out "that is what America looks like when we're all working together."

    It was a breath of fresh air during the election, and it's sad that it took a real storm that directly and immediately effected millions of Americans for that strength to be demonstrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    I would still not want him to win anything more than his current position. Bill Baher said it crystal clear - you don't just vote for one guy, you vote for all the crazies he has no choice but to drag with him. Until the GOP has purged the religious right and its tumors of backward intrusive pseudo-morality, I don't want them within a mile of the White House.
    Unfortunately as far as them kicking out the religious right and other crazies... it won't happen...

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    I would still not want him to win anything more than his current position. Bill Baher said it crystal clear - you don't just vote for one guy, you vote for all the crazies he has no choice but to drag with him. Until the GOP has purged the religious right and its tumors of backward intrusive pseudo-morality, I don't want them within a mile of the White House.
    I should clarify.

    I'd eat broken glass before voting for Chris as Prez.

    But I'd have no problem with him as governor.

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    I should clarify.

    I'd eat broken glass before voting for Chris as Prez.

    But I'd have no problem with him as governor.
    Yea I'm with you on that one.

    Christie is in the wrong party I think. He's a good governor for New Jersey... but I would never vote for him as President.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Unfortunately as far as them kicking out the religious right and other crazies... it won't happen...
    They're not even anywhere near Chris Christie's league.

    If they want to really start winning elections, he could school them on a thing or two.

    Here in Texas Christie would land on the scale of being a "Moderate/Conservative Democrat."

    If that gives you any idea.

    As a footnote: There hasn't been a Moderate or Conservative Democrat Elected to a Statewide office since 1992.
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    He has to balance respect in his home state with national aspirations in his party, if any.

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    They're not even anywhere near Chris Christie's league.

    If they want to really start winning elections, he could school them on a thing or two.

    Here in Texas Christie would land on the scale of being a "Moderate/Conservative Democrat."

    If that gives you any idea.

    As a footnote: There hasn't been a Moderate or Conservative Democrat Elected to a Statewide office since 1992.
    You guys need to change that... start getting democrats back into major offices... Julian Castro is a good start... retake Texas.

    Just like Californians retook California. One other thing to note... democrats have a SUPERMAJORITY here in California after this election... republicans can't even filibuster anymore. Jerry Brown has full sway to do what he needs to do after years of republican screw-ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    He has to balance respect in his home state with national aspirations in his party, if any.
    That's true!

    And just like there was a time where I admired and respected John McCain, it was many of the compromises that he made to do that which helped me to lose my respect for the man.
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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    He has to balance respect in his home state with national aspirations in his party, if any.
    That's true!

    And just like there was a time where I admired and respected John McCain, it was many of the compromises that he made to do that which helped me to lose my respect for the man.

    It doesn't speak well of our National Politic does it?
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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Christie is in the wrong party I think.
    Yeah, from the moment Christie came on the national scene, I got vibes that he didn't quite fit into the Republican Party; that he would probably be more comfortable as a Democrat. He seems too reasonable about things. Too willing to work with the opposing political party. Too concerned about the lives of ordinary people. Too interested in climate change and things Republicans aren't allowed to talk about.

    He angered me a lot when he vetoed the gay marriage bill in February. I have this sneaking suspicion that, had he been a Democrat, he would not have vetoed that bill, and New Jersey would today enjoy gay marriage. My take is that he wanted to keep some Republican street cred, by proving himself a homophobic bigot.

    That's not cool. You don't hurt other people just to belong to the gang. Truly tough guys don't have to prove it by hurting innocent people unnecessarily.

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    That's true!

    And just like there was a time where I admired and respected John McCain, it was many of the compromises that he made to do that which helped me to lose my respect for the man.

    It doesn't speak well of our National Politic does it?
    He could also be reneging on national aspirations, giving a big fat f/u to Romney's camp for rejecting him.

    Or looking to have Obama's popularity in New Jersey rub off on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    He could also be reneging on national aspirations, giving a big fat f/u to Romney's camp for rejecting him.
    I thought it was Christie who rejected Romney. Didn't Christie announce that he would not accept the VP slot if it was offered to him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    He could also be reneging on national aspirations, giving a big fat f/u to Romney's camp for rejecting him.

    Or looking to have Obama's popularity in New Jersey rub off on him.
    Now was it necessary to say a big fat fuck you.... ???




    Plus how can CC be doing a good job at Sandy recovery while Obama is doing poorly? Arent the right wingers whining about how dismal the prospects are and how it isnt being covered like Katrina?

    They fail to mention it is no where near the scale of Katrina but why let facts get in the way?
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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Fuck the Republican National Leadership.

    Their strategy lost.

    And who knows what was discussed privately between the Romney Campaign and Governor Christie's office.

    And who cares how big Christie is.

    Al Gore is FAT, and that's reason enough to deny Climate Change.

    I'll repeat, Christie is probably the only balls out Republican Governor who's not afraid to represent his constituency and every electorate of his state.

    It was refreshing, as an American (Read Texan), to see that in a State Governor.

    I'm sure it will wear off.

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    It was refreshing... to see in any politcian. Hopefully we will see more leadership as we approach the fiscal cliff....

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Christie has already lost the Republician nomination because he dared to work with Obama in any way shape or form.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    It was refreshing... to see in any politcian. Hopefully we will see more leadership as we approach the fiscal cliff....
    I don't expect anything to change. Boehner is already walking back his cooperative talk from Wednesday. I think the Republicans are going to again hold fiscal armageddon as hostage to protect tax cuts for the wealthy.


    "Raising taxes on small businesses will kill jobs in America. It is as simple as that,” Boehner said today in a wide-ranging interview with USA TODAY

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...553f_blog.html

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Let's just remember that if Christie was the VP nominee, He probably never would have made the statement of appreciation to the degree that he did. He couldn't have, He would have been speaking for the ticket as well.

    Christie is to be admired as a man who crossed party lines in the interest of the nation. I hope we wins the NJ Gov next year.

    If he runs against Clinton in 2016, he won't beat her, but he will represent the GOP well, and he could give them a more cooperative agenda when he runs.

    I hear the Bushies are Revving up Jeb and/or George P for a run in 2016, and IF a Christie/ Bush or Bush/Christie ticket is run, it will really signal an understanding of the establishment of the new electorate dynamics, and could win if Biden runs instead of Clinton.
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    Christie is to be admired as a man who crossed party lines in the interest of the nation. I hope we wins the NJ Gov next year.
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    It's nice to have marriage equality in Boston and Baltimore, but there are still gays waiting out there in the other 41 states.
    Well

    Mitt Romney was governor here when we won. True he tried to stop us in every way he could, but in the end the courts failed him. And I'm willing to bet that the Governor may make a shift on the gay issue now that he sees where the political winds are blowing. He knows he's a conservative in a blue state.
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    I don't expect anything to change. Boehner is already walking back his cooperative talk from Wednesday. I think the Republicans are going to again hold fiscal armageddon as hostage to protect tax cuts for the wealthy.
    See and that is fine. Most of our government programs are budget savvy enough to last almost a year with moving money from one pot to another. Let the cliff come... let the tax cuts expire... see how quickly republicans pony up to cut taxes.
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    The tax cuts can expire. the GOP will be willing to pass a law giving the middle and lower class a tax cut after that.

    With the Fiscal Cliff, Remember that the Gov't can Run itself as budgeted for 60 percent of the year, before they have a cash flow issue, so to speak.

    What we have to worry about is Moody's dropping our rating again, which they said they would do, if the those two things as well as the debt ceiling are not passed by the end of this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonPirate View Post

    What we have to worry about is Moody's dropping our rating again, which they said they would do, if the those two things as well as the debt ceiling are not passed by the end of this year.
    I know it is not ideal and that the markets go down and money is lost BUT is it all that bad? Not an interest rate one changed last time they lowered our rating. Plus it seems odd to lower our rating off the same measure they congratulated because it guaranteed cuts to spending one way or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    I know it is not ideal and that the markets go down and money is lost BUT is it all that bad? Not an interest rate one changed last time they lowered our rating. Plus it seems odd to lower our rating off the same measure they congratulated because it guaranteed cuts to spending one way or another.
    I think it will if a second rating org, downgrades us. One may not have affected much... two? I think it will matter. I think that it's the only way out of the box washington put itself in, though, so...

    I guess if it gets us past the revenue issue, it will be a sum zero thing. They are just as annoyed that our revenue is too low to cover our debt, so that would actually help our ratings with Fitch, to let the Bush tax cuts expire and then add the new cuts to the cliff fix.
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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

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    Well

    Mitt Romney was governor here when we won. True he tried to stop us in every way he could, but in the end the courts failed him. And I'm willing to bet that the Governor may make a shift on the gay issue now that he sees where the political winds are blowing. He knows he's a conservative in a blue state.
    There is zero evidence of that. He has made no statements or indications to that effect. Nobody from his inner circle has even uttered a zephyr about possibly changing his mind.

    What we do have is evidence of his record, and I'm not willing to trust someone who has harmed the LGBT community. Chris Christie is a Republican, and even in the face of humiliating defeat, I don't think they have changed one iota.

    Tony Perkins still rules the social roost in the GOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    There is zero evidence of that. He has made no statements or indications to that effect. Nobody from his inner circle has even uttered a zephyr about possibly changing his mind.

    What we do have is evidence of his record, and I'm not willing to trust someone who has harmed the LGBT community. Chris Christie is a Republican, and even in the face of humiliating defeat, I don't think they have changed one iota.

    Tony Perkins still rules the social roost in the GOP.
    I think no one needs to vote for a while, and they need some soul searching as a party. Let's see if they get it this time. If they don't then they won't win.
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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    It's 2 days after an election and Florida is still counting their votes.

    Never regret anything, because in that moment it's exactly what you wanted.

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    Re: Chris Christie: Not my fault that Mitt Romney lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Let the cliff come... let the tax cuts expire... see how quickly republicans pony up to cut taxes.
    Republicans won't have to pony up. Obama will cave again, and give them everything they want.

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