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    Romney was going to be a failure and be voted out in 4 years anyway. Saved us a lot of hassle. Pissed off about the house though, some folks just dont learn

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    Virginia was a conclusion quite some time ago when Obama pulled and shot ahead by 80,000 votes... the urban centers again... the basis for most economic activity... voted for Obama.

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    House Republican threatening a storm of filibusters. Nice way to win votes over next 4 years ...NOT

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    Happy to see Republican attempts to suppress the vote receive intense backlash.
    You guys picked the wrong time to piss. people. off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchymo View Post
    Great news to wake up to. Well done Obama. Sooooooo....who is gonna be leaving and entering SCOTUS this term?
    I think it's nearly guaranteed that SANDRA DAY O'CONNOR will be leaving during this coming Presidential term, and she is one of the most liberal/progressive Justices. She has pancreatic cancer (the WORST cancer that there is), and I have no doubt that health will force her out. Imagine what kind of Justice would have been chosen by Romney, and railroaded through the Senate if the Democrats had lost that chamber. Rick Santorum?

    There would have been nothing to stop that from happening, and it would have guaranteed horrific Supreme Court decisions, perhaps even culminating in striking down the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts passed in the 1960's (on the grounds of unconstitutional federal legislative excess usurping power of the states, by using a total perversion of the Tenth Amendment in this decision). I even have some doubts that there would have ever been another "free" Presidential election again.

    It's also possible that Anton Scalia could end up having to step down, because he's getting quite elderly, I'm sure I heard he's well in his 70s. An Obama-named replacement for him would indeed make it VERY interesting.

    "America" has indeed been pulled back from falling off the edge of the universe.

    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    Assisted suicide is still too close to call. About 20k votes more for no but will be interesting.
    This is one of those kind of issues that I follow strongly, but which never get mentioned by anybody. Any updates? I most definitely would like to see this one win.

    Quote Originally Posted by hotatlboi View Post
    Allen West got kicked out. Thank God!

    GOP wingnuttery was slaughtered everywhere tonight.
    What about Paul Ryan's seat in Congress in Wisconsin? Did he become the first politician in history to lose elections for TWO federal offices in the same night? I hope to hell that those Badgers ate him alive.

    As long as he's been in Wisconsin, he should have known that it is VERY unwise to tangle with a group of angry badgers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    But with a president who can't be trusted on the Second Amendment, the right wingers aren't going to budge.
    Where? What makes you say that Obama is so horrible on Second Amendment rights? I haven't seen or heard him say or do anything that even hints at this - and, in fact, he's allowed firearms in National Parks and on federal land, which is the opposite of somebody who would "take our guns away."

    I don't think I've even heard him talking about banning certain more-lethal weapons, which ARGUABLY could be done and still remain compatible with the Second Amendment, because a "well-armed" militia can still exist without full automatic weapons or similar heavy portable artillery.

    Related to this, I noticed that Concealed-Carry has been resoundingly passing in areas here in the Tri-States where it was on the ballots. Apparently, and I did NOT know this before, it's treated as a COUNTY (not a state) issue in this region, or at least in Illinois and Missouri (I DON'T know about Iowa). Concealed-Carry was on my ballot because I live in this county, and of course I voted for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Constantine View Post
    Happy to see Republican attempts to suppress the vote receive intense backlash.
    You guys picked the wrong time to piss. people. off.
    The voter suppression failed miserably... and it appears even in Florida. People got totally fed up with it...

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    Guys apparently all of Florida's votes are in... I think. Obama has won Florida by a margin of 46,000 votes... and all the votes from Miami-Dade have been included.

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/...esults/florida

    I'm calling Florida for Obama myself... 332-203 electoral votes. A landslide.

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results

    In addition the popular vote is 57.5 million Obama, 55.7 million Romney. Obama's tally is increasing as west coast totals come in. 50-48.4%. But yes, Nate Silver was totally correct. Obama won both the electoral college and popular vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    NBC is playing catch-up -- they just called Virginia for Obama. I didn't think that would happen -- thought Romney had it wrapped up.
    I saw Virginia turn blue a while ago on CNN's web site. Of course, Brian Williams said himself that they don't call states unless they are absolutely sure, so that is perhaps why they waited so long to call Virginia.

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    It's looking like Allen West may become unseated in his House race in Florida by Patrick Murphy. If that happens … good riddance to that abomination.

    @ http://elections.msnbc.msn.com/ns/po...rida/house/18/

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Guys apparently all of Florida's votes are in... I think. Obama has won Florida by a margin of 46,000 votes... and all the votes from Miami-Dade have been included.

    I'm calling Florida for Obama myself... 332-203 electoral votes. A landslide.
    It would be 332 for Obama, 206 for Romney. (Factor the 3 electoral votes from Alaska.)

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    http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/ballot-measures/ - IF you guys are interested in the long list of propositions in California. My key one is prop 30... BIG TIME... we can finally fund Cal State and UC schools far more effectively with it. Prop 32 failing is another important one.

    By the way, Measure B in LA County seems to have passed. Condoms will now be required in pornos... at least the ones produced here in LA County.
    http://rrccmain.co.la.ca.us/0012_Cou...sure_Frame.htm - By a margin of 58-41%.

    And with that I'm off to bed. I think I'm going to sleep 10 hours or something lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    By the way, Measure B in LA County seems to have passed. Condoms will now be required in pornos... at least the ones produced here in LA County.
    (grin) is the valley actually IN L.A. County? God knows we never went there.

    All this does is deprive LA of revenue. The Porn will Simply move.
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    ughhhhh

    Bachmann won her seat.


    * barfs*

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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    (grin) is the valley actually IN L.A. County? God knows we never went there.

    All this does is deprive LA of revenue. The Porn will Simply move.
    Yes, "the Valley" is indeed in L. A. County, which is surprisingly massive. In most States, what is L. A. County would be five or six counties instead. L. A. County extends much farther than one would ordinarily think - even to the NORTH of the San Gabriels, etc. - even Palmdale and Lancaster are within Los Angeles County, and I think also Mojave.
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    ughhhhh

    Bachmann won her seat.


    * barfs*
    Gawdz...I was really HOPING it would be otherwise.

    "Close" isn't gonna be enough to scare her to the sensible, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankfrank View Post
    Gawdz...I was really HOPING it would be otherwise.

    "Close" isn't gonna be enough to scare her to the sensible, though.
    Bachmann for 2016


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    Bachmann for 2016
    Oh pleeeeze let it be her that wins the Republican Primary in 2016.

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    Bachmann vs Hillary = Bitchfight in 2016

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    Tim Kaine is on MJ - great ideas and tone

    He'll be good in the Senate

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    I cannot wait to see what the Charlatans Of The Airwaves (Limbaugh, Beck) will say. How are they going to spin this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Tim Kaine is on MJ - great ideas and tone

    He'll be good in the Senate

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    He'll be good in the Senate
    I'm going to highlight this for those who think wrongheadedly that chance does not support Democrats. Those who actually can lead and think outside the hyperpartisan box, he does wholeheartedly...so do I. Not a fan of George Allen, either after the "macaca" comment, especially so I'm glad Tim Kaine won. We need more Tim Kaines though sadly we have to deal with miss prim and scolding, Elizabeth Warren, elected from Massachusetts over Republican Senator Scott Brown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bendted View Post
    I cannot wait to see what the Charlatans Of The Airwaves (Limbaugh, Beck) will say. How are they going to spin this?
    I know people may not believe this, but I think secretly they are glad he won, and maybe some of the foxnews host. They may be upset EGO wise after they fought tooth and nail against the POTUS, but now they can continue to talk shit and critique everything he says and does. Those muthafuckas won't be trying to help the cause, they will continue to try to divide the country. No one says they can't call out things they don't agree but even a broke clock is right once a day so they can at least find ONE positive thing about the POTUS so their viewers/listeners, who apparantly don't listen to ANYONE but them, can find something positive in their leader.
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    Democrat strategists needs to start giving serious thought to winning over the House, it is baffling how this has not been a priority

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngolaZee View Post
    Democrat strategists needs to start giving serious thought to winning over the House, it is baffling how this has not been a priority
    They thought they were gonna lose the senate and were shocked that they actually picked up 3 seats there. I assume the incumbent in Montana will hold his seat for Democrats despite that race not being called yet (he's up by 4%). ND is still too close to call but the D is leading by 1%. I suspect a recount there.

    Now we call talk about the power play if Kerry gets the nod for Secretary of State which leads to another vacant seat in MA. Given his age (68), I doubt Kerry would run again so it's a great way to end his political career. That is why Brown in his concession speech said that "defeat is only temporary". If he actually runs as an Independent and if we have a special election, I would expect a landslide victory for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    I'm going to highlight this for those who think wrongheadedly that chance does not support Democrats..
    He's a "registered Democrat" so this side of him is coming out of the closet now that his side (R) lost. Nothing revealed here, except it's a face saving move.

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    How America’s richest counties voted

    There are six counties in the US with a median income of more than $100,000. Here’s the list. And here’s how they voted:

    Loudoun County, Virginia: Obama 51.6%, Romney 47.2%

    Falls Church, Virginia: Obama 69.1%, Romney 29.6%

    Fairfax, Virginia: Obama 57.3%, Romney 41.1%

    Los Alamos, New Mexico: Obama 48.7%, Romney 45.0%

    Howard, Maryland: Obama 59.5%, Romney 38.3%

    Hunterdon, New Jersey: Obama 40.0%, Romney 58.9%





    interesting

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    http://felixsalmon.tumblr.com/post/3...counties-voted

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    Looks like Mitt's fellow heavyweights aint drinking the kool aid

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    Congratulations to Tammy Baldwin and Elizabeth Warren. Two remarkable women who will serve the interests of citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngolaZee View Post
    How America’s richest counties voted

    There are six counties in the US with a median income of more than $100,000. Here’s the list. And here’s how they voted:

    Loudoun County, Virginia: Obama 51.6%, Romney 47.2%

    Falls Church, Virginia: Obama 69.1%, Romney 29.6%

    Fairfax, Virginia: Obama 57.3%, Romney 41.1%

    Los Alamos, New Mexico: Obama 48.7%, Romney 45.0%

    Howard, Maryland: Obama 59.5%, Romney 38.3%

    Hunterdon, New Jersey: Obama 40.0%, Romney 58.9%





    interesting
    I wonder how those same counties voted in past elections, and how they compare against other counties in their state or the country average. The correlation between income/net worth and someone's political party or for whom they vote would be intriguing to know.
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    That are a local "Mexican" confused November 6th as some sort of Holiday, or a Dallas Cowboys win!
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    In spite of these obstacles, Obama wins the White House with an electoral vote tally of 303 to Romney's 235, taking Colorado and Virginia but failing to steal Florida, which in truth had already been stolen on behalf of Romney by Governor Rick Scott. Only without Florida that's where we are now, and you said this pretty early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngolaZee View Post
    For the first time Obama pulls ahead in the EC
    I thought he was ahead 3-0 when Vermont was the first state to be called, or am I already mixing up what was called when?

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    I wonder if Nate Silver is watching...
    Except for Florida, didn't he call EVERY state correctly? Wow.

    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    Yeah no surprise there. Death with dignity is losing now.
    I've still heard nothing final, what was the result on that ballot measure? I hope that it won.
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    Yeah he was pretty close... he called 49 out of 50 states right in 2008... and I think he did the same thing in this race. Florida did flip "lean Obama" in his final projections... so he's right to a degree. He said Obama just had over a 50% of winning. Voters are so disenfranchised in Florida. If it was set up better, Florida could possibly be much more strongly in favor of Obama. Regardless, Obama will carry the state.

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    That might have to be revised for Latinos... 70%... it was probably closer to 75%. But interesting figures there. Republicans can't rely on the white male vote any more to carry them to elections.

    BTW, Obama's lead in Florida is at 51,000 after they counted more votes... republicans are panicking there too... all their attempts of voter suppression are failing.

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    I'm sure there will be a white presidential candidate for Democrats in 2016, so whatever gains the Republicans made on white male voters will most likely be reversed. On the other hand I can not see Republicans making a serious push and gaining Black/Asian/Hispanic votes. So the future looks brights for Democrats. The Obama presidency definitely played a crucial role in convincing minorities that they interests are best represented by Democratic Party, it will be hard for Republicans to convince them otherwise

    The fact that a Black man with no hereditary political connections made it to the top of the Democratic Party is hard to argue with. Obama's parents were not a governors, wealthy aristocrats or influential people. They were broke ass ordinary folks like the rest of us. That is the REAL American Dream. No ceilings for ANYONE

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    Angola...preachin' the truth!

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    Angola, I think you may be right... a white President, and perhaps Julian Castro getting into things too and being VP... that's just my take on it. Imagine if Julian Castro was VP... the Democrats would have the Latino vote under lock for many more years to come... no matter what that phony Marco Rubio says.

    What we saw in 2012 was a possible paradigm shift... a shift to democrat party dominated politics that could last years.

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    Romney team: We lost Florida

    By Rachel Weiner
    Nov. 8, 2012 | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...washingtonpost

    Mitt Romney’s senior adviser in Florida has given up on the state.

    “The numbers in Florida show this was winnable,” Brett Doster said in a statement obtained by the 'Miami Herald'.

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    Is that the headline from "Duh Magazine", lol?
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    Yea Obama won Florida by 0.65%... the amount required for a recount is 0.5%. Seriously without disenfranchisement, I think Obama could have won the state by 3-4%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Yea Obama won Florida by 0.65%... the amount required for a recount is 0.5%. Seriously without disenfranchisement, I think Obama could have won the state by 3-4%.
    Last thing I saw of the popular-vote margin, it was D+2.40 for re-election of President Obama. His carriage of Florida at the apparent D+0.65 is a spread of 1.75% from the national. Since 1996, Fla. has come withing five points, statewide-vs.-national. In 2008, Obama's first-election victory saw him flip and carry Fla. by D+2.81, while he won nationally by D+7.26. That made it a spread of 4.45%. Given his popular-vote margin, 2008-vs-2012, had there been an exacting uniform shift in all states [R+4.86], he would not have mathematically carried Fla. again. So, getting the state to carry once again by such a small margin, when he nationally won re-election by so small a margin, is impressive enough.

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    Well my issue with Florida is that if people were allowed to vote in urban areas without voter suppression, he would have won Florida by a bigger margin even if his popular vote margin wasn't as great as it was in 2008. I still view Florida as being less of a toss up and more as a leaning blue state in the future.

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    What voter suppression? It's the old official election idiots on the local level -- both republican and democrat that have created a slow process. Get rid of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    What voter suppression? It's the old official election idiots on the local level -- both republican and democrat that have created a slow process. Get rid of them.
    The Florida legislature is dominated by republicans... in a state where democrats hold a 500,000 registration advantage. There is clear voter suppression in Florida. They have some of the most antiquated laws. Democrats don't have much sway to change things because republicans in the state will prevent them. Why would democrats want to prevent urban areas in Florida from being counted or having the process being slow?

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    GOP lost across the board except at local levels. Bad news for them. They have become a regional party now, and they are indicating that one of the first things Cantor is going to do, is repeal the ACA again. Of course, it will not even get voted on in the senate, much less get to the president for a Veto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bendted View Post
    He's a "registered Democrat" so this side of him is coming out of the closet now that his side (R) lost. Nothing revealed here, except it's a face saving move.
    Yeah

    I'm "saving face" in front of my dear friends

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Yeah

    I'm "saving face" in front of my dear friends

    That'd be me
    You saved face?

    Where?

    So are you taking Mr Romney's Loss well, Chance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    What voter suppression? It's the old official election idiots on the local level -- both republican and democrat that have created a slow process. Get rid of them.
    Fuck yeah!

    Did I ever tell you the story about how a Camel is a horse designed by a committee?

    Florida has proven themselves incapable of actually holding an election.

    Perhaps they should look to a former "Banana Republic" (waaay before it was a clothing line) for election reform.

    They're not even players in the Electoral College anymore.

    In this election they've proven that they don't know whether to wind their ass or scratch their watch.
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    Why do I always get stuck with Weezer and Centex gets all the best Claree lines?

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