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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvFindsAndyHardy View Post
    He's winning, unequivocally.
    LOL

    he's clint eastwood from the RNC WITHOUT THE LAUGHS

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    Biden needs to visit the Debbie Boone clinic ... turkey neck.

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    Ryan: "Our church shouldn't have to sue our Government to protect religious liberties."

    Biden: "I refuse to impose my Church's doctrine on other Christians, or those of other faiths."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Biden needs to visit the Debbie Boone clinic ... turkey neck.
    Looks like that GEICO Lizard huh?

    Oh, and Al Gore is FAT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by centexfarmer View Post
    Ryan: "Our church shouldn't have to sue our Government to protect religious liberties."

    Biden: "I refuse to impose my Church's doctrine on other Christians, or those of other faiths."
    Obama should take note at this... this is how you DEBATE... or rather pull the rug from under your opponent.

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    Biden has quieted down. it's 9:20 now -- must be past his bedtime.

    He run out of steam.

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    ryan is calm and composed

    biden is not

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    Re: The Debate Thread

    biden is bad mouthing scalia - LOL

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    Biden quieted down? Yeah, he's done enough damage to the little guy... no need to inflict more embarrassment.

    Winner tonight? Biden. He's Irish? He should have a drink after this one and celebrate.

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    Re: The Debate Thread

    ryan "was there a litmus test on them?" to biden

    great line

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    "Oh, now you're Jack Kennedy," Biden said, rolling his eyes and continuing to evoke memories of the '88 debate, during which Bentsen told Quayle, "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy."
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/b...-election.html

    Ouch... talk about mopping the floor with the guy that wrote speeches for other politicians... I wonder if a gay sex scandal is in Ryan's future... cause I'm not sure if writing speeches is all he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Biden has quieted down.
    Talking about economics is one thing. But switching to personally sensitive issues like religion and abortion, Biden has the sense to control is political passion. Pay attention next time to the topics.

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    Re: The Debate Thread

    looks like listless obama has morphed into crazy joe

    each should have been somewhere in the middle

    what a duo

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    Ryan is cleaning up ... listing the failures and broken promises of Obama.

    Biden responds with typical untrue talking points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiff View Post
    Talking about economics is one thing. But switching to personally sensitive issues like religion and abortion, Biden has the sense to control is political passion. Pay attention next time to the topics.
    That was before religion was introduced.

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    Re: The Debate Thread

    obama is about speeches not leadership

    love it

    mitt is bipartisan

    ryan is killing it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Ryan is cleaning up ... listing the failures and broken promises of Obama.

    Biden responds with typical untrue talking points.
    Ryan hasn't done squat... and he hasn't even brought substance... asides from that dorky hair cut.

    Biden destroyed him tonight... time and time again... cause Ryan is no Jack Kennedy.

    This is what happens when you field a political veteran against a novice I could probably outdo in a debate.

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    Re: The Debate Thread

    In one thread, you can see who the unbiased posters are. Obama got crushed and Ryan is got his ass handed to him. Anything other opinion is just uncivilized.

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    Biden is complaining about not getting enough time -- he's actually had more at this point than Ryan ... more than a minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archive View Post
    In one thread, you can see who the unbiased posters are. Obama got crushed and Ryan is got his ass handed to him. Anything other opinion is just uncivilized.
    LOL

    if you're into anger, laughter and interruption ........ after obama's lifeless performance i guess you're right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Ryan is cleaning up ... listing the failures and broken promises of Obama.
    In our next exhibit folks, you see the difference between the "left" and the "right."

    Those of us on the left saw that Obama lost the debate with Mitt Romney and admitted it. Those on the right will not be able to admit that Joe Biden won this round, no matter what.

    just watch......

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    Whenever I hear a politician say "I won't rest" I automatically assume he is lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archive View Post
    In one thread, you can see who the unbiased posters are. Obama got crushed and Ryan is got his ass handed to him. Anything other opinion is just uncivilized.
    Well I don't think Obama got crushed... he brought the facts, but just didn't convey the message well. Romney was doing his used car sales man schtick. Even Obama said he was too nice to Romney... I hope he lets his inner pitbull out. I know he has it.

    But yeah, Ryan did get his ass handed to him a silver platter. I really HOPE that Obama is taking notes from good old Joe tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Ryan hasn't done squat... and he hasn't even brought substance... asides from that dorky hair cut.

    Biden destroyed him tonight... time and time again... cause Ryan is no Jack Kennedy.

    This is what happens when you field a political veteran against a novice I could probably outdo in a debate.
    Is that why they call him Eddie Munster?
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    Re: The Debate Thread

    CNN calls it a draw.

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    Ryan's closing was listless, plastic and fake. I didn't believe a word of it.
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    Closing:

    Biden just thanked Martha - after treating her badly - unbelievable - he's asking to ignore his actions and accept his words

    he keeps calling him "my friend" - now making it personal - Ryan has attacked his mother, etc.



    Ryan's turn:
    a big choice
    what kind of country are we going to be - to give our kids
    obama had his chance - made his choices
    it's not working
    23% not working
    this is not what a real recovery looks like

    mitt's qualities are a good fit for what ails us

    we need jobs - mitt is a businessman

    good contrast - 2 styles

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvFindsAndyHardy View Post
    In our next exhibit folks, you see the difference between the "left" and the "right."

    Those of us on the left saw that Obama lost the debate with Mitt Romney and admitted it. Those on the right will not be able to admit that Joe Biden won this round, no matter what.

    just watch......
    the moderator was great btw

    biden is a good man - he just has no control over himself - which is a problem to have as a vp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    CNN calls it a draw.
    Malarkey. Biden killed this one...

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    ^^^

    but did you feel that tingle up your leg when Biden gave his closing remarks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    CNN calls it a draw.
    well everyone knows they're a right wing machine

    ooops

    LOL

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    Re: The Debate Thread

    david gergen says ryan was more presidential

    that biden was condescending - eye rolling

    gloria borger said the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvFindsAndyHardy View Post
    In our next exhibit folks, you see the difference between the "left" and the "right."

    Those of us on the left saw that Obama lost the debate with Mitt Romney and admitted it. Those on the right will not be able to admit that Joe Biden won this round, no matter what.

    just watch......
    Not sure anyone won. It you call a winner by someone interrupting, yeahing, and being rude -- I guess Biden won.

    However, Ryan kept his cool.

    Obama/Biden has failed to get the economy going again ... it's time for change.

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    Quote of the day: I mean what I say

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    Re: The Debate Thread

    style matters

    condescending smirking laughing

    matters

    paul begala says it's nonsense - paul begala is a joke

    van jones says paul ryan did well - held his own

    but says he opened up 2 things:

    abortion
    military

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    Re: The Debate Thread

    van jones says dems needed biden to be strong and he was

    repub strategist says there was more foreign policy than u.s. economy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Not sure anyone won. It you call a winner by someone interrupting, yeahing, and being rude -- I guess Biden won.

    However, Ryan kept his cool.

    Obama/Biden has failed to get the economy going again ... it's time for change.
    Time for a change to what?

    The economy did get going and is growing. What is this? The Soviet Union? DO we instate 5 year plans to get the economy going? Since when was the President in charge of the private sector?

    Biden hit the home run... lets not dodge reality. He wasn't being rude. He brought something called substance.

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    Re: The Debate Thread

    stephanie cutter from obama campaign is on

    "it's a decisive win" for obama campaign - yawn

    she thinks his condescension and sighing and laughing is just joe being joe - LOL

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    Bottom line -- if the Obama campaign doesn't say they won tonight (whether they did or not) they lose the election by not regaining their former momentum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Bottom line -- if the Obama campaign doesn't say they won tonight (whether they did or not) they lose the election by not regaining their former momentum.
    stephanie cutter who admitted sheepishly that the $5T debt thing was a lie ....... is now saying BIG WIN for Obama team

    wolf is now putting her feet to the fire about her earlier comments that said that the libya investigation is romney led

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Bottom line -- if the Obama campaign doesn't say they won tonight (whether they did or not) they lose the election by not regaining their former momentum.
    Biden did win... and it's obvious to many analysts he did. I already have some confident emails from the Democratic Party already...

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    yeah the "my friend" that biden used ............ was sorta lame

    calls him "my friend"

    reince preibus said biden interrupted ryan 82x

    reince is a tool btw

    cnn is making fun of the "my friend" thing

    it's pretty fucking funny

    take away from independent voters in virginia

    dead heat

    1/3 biden
    1/3 ryan
    1/3 even

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiff View Post
    I call it a solid draw. It was a real debate, which is rare. And that was only made possible from each side being equally as prepared. Joe gave his passionate best; the middle class base wouldn't have it any other way. Ryan held his ground in a noble, calmer manner (strangely the same trait that everyone criticized Obama for). Each of them were condescending occasionally. I did like how Ryan looked into the camera for his closing remarks; I wish Joe did that instead of looking at the moderator. Martha was a great moderator, although she focused a tad too much on foreign policy especially for a VP debate.
    Joe Biden is a great man - with a great personal story - why he insisted on the eye rolling, laughing and smirking - and treating paul personally badly - is a mystery

    i love passion but he takes it too far - my sense is people are sorta used to it so him doing it is lessened

    ryan did great - especially on foreign policy where i thought he would be weak

    he talked a lot about mitt romney - did a good surrogate job

    i think ryan won because he managed his facts well and he was the much better presenter - much nicer guy

    seems that the democratic play is just to be angry and mean and make things personal

    Quote Originally Posted by archive View Post
    Both have been complete theater. I Think preseidential debates are a waste of time, just like most of the political threads In CEP. We all know who we are voting for, and I'm tired of these so called indecisives. If you have ever been to a real debate, all four would have lost. All their words do is color their history they have already established while governing. If you or anyone else can't see that, there's no reason to even have a discussion.
    i read that there are so few undecideds ..... but then why did the polls shift so much after the first debate??

    so i hear u

    but i actually really enjoyed tonite

    i LIKE Biden - as a man - my guess is he felt he had to be extra juiced to offset Obama debate 1

    Ryan's foreign policy fluency (gloria borger's word) did surprise me

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    CNN is pretty good chat tonight -- both sides.
    van jones is really good

    begala is a cartoon character - the rest of the panel hates him it appears

    48-44 ryan wins per cnn

    within the error margin

    Paul Begala is on CNN for no reason

    he's just a partisan mess that no one on the panel or at home can stand
    Last edited by opinterph; October 12th, 2012 at 02:47 AM. Reason: merged multiple posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Biden did win... and it's obvious to many analysts he did. I already have some confident emails from the Democratic Party already...
    al Jazerra network?

    Giancarlo -- they (the DNC) has to say Biden won, they have no choice -- they cannot accept two failures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    al Jazerra network?

    Giancarlo -- they (the DNC) has to say Biden won, they have no choice -- they cannot accept two failures
    Well.. the republican party seems content accepting two failures to run for office... one with a disgustingly bad record as governor of Massachusetts... and the other a schoolboy who got schooled in a debate and wrote speeches for a living.

    Oh guys there is evidence Obama is bouncing back in both Virginia and Ohio... he's gaining leads there.
    Last edited by GiancarloC; October 11th, 2012 at 07:59 PM. Reason: typo

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    Current TV must have kicked the boss off their after-debate chat.

    Guess there won't be any comments about the altitude in Kentucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    I already have some confident emails from the Democratic Party already...
    Well that settles it. LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    stephanie cutter who admitted sheepishly that the $5T debt thing was a lie ....... is now saying BIG WIN for Obama team

    wolf is now putting her feet to the fire about her earlier comments that said that the libya investigation is romney led
    Biden's outright unbelievable answers on Libya throwing the intelligence community under the bus show he'll say anything to cover Obama's ass. I wanted to bitch smack Biden for the grade A jerk smirkfest he perpetrated on the American public tonight. CNN called this contest a draw, which I gather means at least the Democratic participant showed up this time and didn't look like he really didn't want to be there. Of course, Biden demagogued a number of times and he was classless for the most part trying to condescend to Ryan with the the belittling smirking and facemaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    Biden's outright unbelievable answers on Libya throwing the intelligence community under the bus show he'll say anything to cover Obama's ass. I wanted to bitch smack Biden for the grade A jerk smirkfest he perpetrated on the American public tonight. CNN called this contest a draw, which I gather means at least the Democratic participant showed up this time and didn't look like he really didn't want to be there. Of course, Biden demagogued a number of times and he was classless for the most part trying to condescend to Ryan by the belittling smirking and facemaking.
    What does he have to cover? What did they do wrong? They didn't lie about Libya. Who were the ones who cut embassy security? CONGRESS. You wanted to bitch smack the wrong guy... the only one who was smirking was Eddie Munster over there. CNN called this a draw? Other analysts say Biden won. Time to catch up with reality. Biden brought substance and facts... I guess those are two very frightening things. Ryan couldn't even get out of that little fucking box he was stuck in all night.

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    ^^^

    Giancarlo -- you need to block those emails from the DNC. You're a smart guy -- think for yourself.

    You've not been listening to the news regarding the coverup in Libya.

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    I call it a solid draw. It was a real debate, which is rare. And that was only made possible from each side being equally as prepared. Joe gave his passionate best; the middle class base wouldn't have it any other way. Ryan held his ground in a noble, calmer manner (strangely the same trait that everyone criticized Obama for). Each of them were condescending occasionally. I did like how Ryan looked into the camera for his closing remarks; I wish Joe did that instead of looking at the moderator. Martha was a great moderator, although she focused a tad too much on foreign policy especially for a VP debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ^^^

    Giancarlo -- you need to block those emails from the DNC. You're a smart guy -- think for yourself.
    I get emails from a variety of sources... and that's a nasty personal attack. Don't talk down to me like I'm some schoolboy like that asshat Ryan.

    You've not been listening to the news regarding the coverup in Libya.
    What cover up is that? Keep the faux outrage to another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    LOL

    if you're into anger, laughter and interruption ........ after obama's lifeless performance i guess you're right
    Both have been complete theater. I Think preseidential debates are a waste of time, just like most of the political threads In CEP. We all know who we are voting for, and I'm tired of these so called indecisives. If you have ever been to a real debate, all four would have lost. All their words do is color their history they have already established while governing. If you or anyone else can't see that, there's no reason to even have a discussion.

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