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    Todd Akin does it again.

    I am completely embarrassed for our state because of this idiot. Claire McCaskill and he participated in a debate on Sept 21. In an interview on the 27th about the debate he tells the Kansas City Star:

    “She had a confidence and was much more ladylike (in 2006), but in the debate on Friday she came out swinging, and I think that’s because she feels threatened.”
    Ladylike? WTF? Meaning of course that she wasn't "ladylike" to him. Talk about misogynistic! What is she supposed to do? Dress up like June Cleaver and bring cookies to the debate? Looks to me like he is the one that feels threatened. Dumb-ass.

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/g...a4bcf6878.html



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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Bullshit Translation: "She [McCaskill] was nice, when she knew her place."
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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    i don't think "ladylike" is misogynistic - it's an old school term that i imagine doesn't play well

    and prob wasn't very smart to say

    but real misogyny is not that

    he's toast so it doesn't matter

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    I see the outrage and then again i don't see it gaining traction. Even women in this country carry misogynistic attitudes.
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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by cityboy-stl View Post
    I am completely embarrassed for our state because of this idiot. Claire McCaskill and he participated in a debate on Sept 21. In an interview on the 27th about the debate he tells the Kansas City Star:



    Ladylike? WTF? Meaning of course that she wasn't "ladylike" to him. Talk about misogynistic! What is she supposed to do? Dress up like June Cleaver and bring cookies to the debate? Looks to me like he is the one that feels threatened. Dumb-ass.

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/g...a4bcf6878.html
    Nonono This is exactly what she needs to do. She scared the shit out of him. Tell her to keep it up. He is on the run.
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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Akin is not toast, people in Missouri know McCaskill and how she has repeatedly tried to cheat the taxpayers with false expense reports and her voting record.

    McCaskill has a lot of skeletons in her closet -- Akin needs to have the balls to talk about it and maybe he will with money coming back into his campaign. He has to do it with ads because most, if not all media will not cover what he says ... unless it sounds controversial.

    People who are aghast with Romney and his supposed off-shore accounts would be horrified with the stuff that McCaskill and her current husband own that free from US taxes.

    The election will be between rural/surburban and urban voters.

    Personally, I don't care for the guy -- but care less for McCaskill. I'll hold my nose as most of the people I've talked to and vote for Akin.

    If McCaskill loses she will only have herself to blame because she is the one who choose Akin to run against.

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Hey Jack. What do you think about his comment about legitimate rape?
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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by White Eagle View Post
    Nonono This is exactly what she needs to do. She scared the shit out of him. Tell her to keep it up. He is on the run.
    Would Akin consider "keeping it up" the whole time legitimate rape?


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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Hey Jack. What do you think about his comment about legitimate rape?
    I think he's opposed to abortion and made a mistake in his interview.

    He apologized for the mistake.

    Like I said I'm not a big fan -- but I along with a lot of other Missourians don't like McCaskill. Akin is barely behind her in the polls and most polls reflect the voices of suburban and urban ... not rural.

    After Akin's gaffe she was very nice but has recently gone back to the the same type of ads she ran during the primary -- taking a phase out-of-context from an Akin comment and turning it around to mean something else. Akin was right -- she's not very ladylike.

    The election outcome will be interesting. Hopefully no crooked crap in STL or KC.

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Oh Boo Fucking hoo.

    So she's no lady in Akin's eyes.

    We all know his vision is fucked based on his perception of women's reproductive capabilities.

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    As a resident of the State of Missouri I find it difficult as how sane voters could vote for Todd Akin. But after all the Show Me State gave the world Rush Limbaugh, John Ashcroft and now Todd Akin.

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Don't forget that the dem's voted to elect a dead man as US Senator -- the Carnnahan curse endured for two years.

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    In recent news a man asked Akin why he voted against the Lilly Ledbetter act and Akin responded that people should be free to pay whatever they want to whoever they want... so if I wanna pay blacks and ladies lower wages then that is cool with Akin. What a tool.
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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    In recent news a man asked Akin why he voted against the Lilly Ledbetter act and Akin responded that people should be free to pay whatever they want to whoever they want... so if I wanna pay blacks and ladies lower wages then that is cool with Akin. What a tool.
    You overheard the convo ?

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    In recent news a man asked Akin why he voted against the Lilly Ledbetter act and Akin responded that people should be free to pay whatever they want to whoever they want... so if I wanna pay blacks and ladies lower wages then that is cool with Akin. What a tool.
    Is that the "word on the street" on the Kansas side?


    I've done a lot of traveling the last week around the state. There are lots of Akin signs -- big ones, small ones. I have not seen any McCaskill signs yet.

    Another really odd thing -- there are no signs for either presidential candidate -- it's like an off year election -- no interest.

    Local candidate signs, including congressional candidates but not most statewide candidates, are very visible. I've yet to see a sign proclaim the candidate is either a republican or democrat.

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    In recent news a man asked Akin why he voted against the Lilly Ledbetter act and Akin responded that people should be free to pay whatever they want to whoever they want... so if I wanna pay blacks and ladies lower wages then that is cool with Akin. What a tool.
    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    You overheard the convo ?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1928534.html

    "I believe in free enterprise. I don't think the government should be telling people what you pay and what you don't pay," Akin said at a town hall meeting on Thursday. The comment came in response to a question about Akin's decision to vote against the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, which has made it it easier for women to challenge unequal pay.

    "I think it's about freedom," Akin added. "If somebody wants to hire somebody and they agree on a salary, that's fine, however it wants to work.
    Do you believe women should be paid the same for doing the same job as a man, chance1?


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    Quote Originally Posted by star-warrior View Post
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1928534.html



    Do you believe women should be paid the same for doing the same job as a man, chance1?
    Who gets to decide if two jobs are the some and if two people are doing it as well? How many million do she and her lawyer collect if the jury disagrees with the employer. Another good reason to avoid hiring women in the first place, or send the job oversees and avoid the lawsuits.

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Who gets to decide if two jobs are the some and if two people are doing it as well?
    A job analysis leads to job specifications, job description, and commensurate parameters for job recruitment, testing, and subsequent performance evaluation. If properly conducted, the job analysis establishes precisely what knowledge, skills, and abilities are required to perform the functions identified in the job and the corresponding compensation appropriate for that job in each specific employment market.

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Who gets to decide if two jobs are the some and if two people are doing it as well? How many million do she and her lawyer collect if the jury disagrees with the employer. Another good reason to avoid hiring women in the first place, or send the job oversees and avoid the lawsuits.
    I think you miss the point entirely. If there is a flat rate pay for both men and women, then there is less job AND pay discrimination. If a woman can do the job and be paid less than a man, then surely companies would employ more women to keep their overheads lower. This is job-discrimination against men isn't it? It is in everyone's interest to keep a level playing field with the same pay levels for males and females, but to boost productivity and motivation, the employer can be allowed to introduce performance incentives so that employees can do their utmost for the benefit of the business they work for and for themselves.

    As for sending jobs overseas, you'd better talk to Romney about why employing people outside the US is better than employing US workers who demand higher wages for the same job some foreigner can do for less.


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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by star-warrior View Post
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1928534.html



    Do you believe women should be paid the same for doing the same job as a man, chance1?
    Depends on experience schooling plus

    All things equal absolutely !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Depends on experience schooling plus
    Education and experience must be validated to the job in order for them to be used as appropriate criteria for determining compensation.

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    In 2000 few weeks before the election Mel Carnahan the Governor and Democratic candidate for senate was killed in plane crash. Ballots for the election were already printed for the election. His name could not be removed from the ballot and his wife was chosen to take his place. State laws vary as to how to deal with these issues.

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    Education and experience must be validated to the job in order for them to be used as appropriate criteria for determining compensation.
    If what you're saying is that a man and woman with the same responsibilities but one with more experience - education should be paid the same ....,.

    I don't necessarily agree

    if one has more of something - man or woman

    paying them more is fine with me

    I have experienced this

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    Quote Originally Posted by bike10 View Post
    In 2000 few weeks before the election Mel Carnahan the Governor and Democratic candidate for senate was killed in plane crash. Ballots for the election were already printed for the election. His name could not be removed from the ballot and his wife was chosen to take his place. State laws vary as to how to deal with these issues.
    Just to make sure people are aware of the history. The night Mel Carnnahan died, before his body was found and they knew he was dead his wife agreed to take his place and be appointed Senator. That's how bad the dem's wanted to keep that seat.

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Ah yes, Todd Akin.

    I know of several crazy people who call Missouri their home.....

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Hey Jack. What do you think about his comment about legitimate rape?
    This isn't the first time Akin dialed the derp to 11 - in 2008 speech on the House Floor, he said ""You find that along with the culture of death go all kinds of other law-breaking: Not following good sanitary procedure, giving abortions to women who are not actually pregnant, cheating on taxes, all these kinds of things."

    How the hell do you give abortions to women who aren't pregnant?

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Just to make sure people are aware of the history. The night Mel Carnnahan died, before his body was found and they knew he was dead his wife agreed to take his place and be appointed Senator. That's how bad the dem's wanted to keep that seat.
    Revisionist History.

    I didn't have a dog in that hunt either way, but it seems to me that even if the man had lived he STILL would have won over the Republican Challenger.

    Then after it was discovered that the Democratic Candidate was DEAD, Missouri voters still felt like he was a better option than the Republican that was running against him.

    Did I ever share with you how much I love Missouri, and the friends that I've made from there, and who continue to live there?

    They're some pretty fucking smart people!

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    Would Akin consider "keeping it up" the whole time legitimate rape?
    From what I've heard about McCaskill he probably can't keep it up.
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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by centexfarmer View Post
    Revisionist History.

    I didn't have a dog in that hunt either way, but it seems to me that even if the man had lived he STILL would have won over the Republican Challenger.

    Then after it was discovered that the Democratic Candidate was DEAD, Missouri voters still felt like he was a better option than the Republican that was running against him.

    Did I ever share with you how much I love Missouri, and the friends that I've made from there, and who continue to live there?

    They're some pretty fucking smart people!

    I'm not sure that we're all smart as me. LOL

    I really don't remember what the polls said at the time Carnahan died in the plane crash, other than they were close. I do remember that Carnahan and his son should never have flown in a small plane in that horrible thunderstorm to collect some campaign cash -- bad move on their part.

    Many people were tired of Mel. I'm not sure he would have won -- it was very competitive and after all Bush won in 2000 and carried the state. Ashcroft was an incumbent which would have given him an edge.

    I've looked for the KC Star article that goes into detail about how former Sen. Harriet Woods got a commitment from Jean Carnahan the night of the plane crash and before her husband's body was found. The article does not show up in the Star's archives. I thought at the time it was extremely disturbing and raw.

    No attempt by me at rewriting history.

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    i don't think "ladylike" is misogynistic - it's an old school term that i imagine doesn't play well

    and prob wasn't very smart to say

    but real misogyny is not that

    he's toast so it doesn't matter
    Agree with all of that.

    He's not misogynistic just an idiot.

    He doesn't understand the first thing about the female sex. His rape comments proved that. He doesn't hate them, just advocates policies that demean them without even really understanding that.

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by hotatlboi View Post
    Agree with all of that.

    He's not misogynistic just an idiot.

    He doesn't understand the first thing about the female sex. His rape comments proved that. He doesn't hate them, just advocates policies that demean them without even really understanding that.
    he's an unelectable dolt

    claire got lucky

    it's sorta christine o'donnell - sharron angle

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Oh I think he's a misogynistic idiot. They aren't mutually exclusive.
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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    Oh I think he's a misogynistic idiot. They aren't mutually exclusive.
    ladylike

    yawn

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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    I've met some really nice folks from Missouri, but the state really deserves Todd Akin. Time to invest in coathanger futures.


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    Re: Todd Akin does it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    ladylike

    yawn
    Legitimate rape,

    Yawn
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    Legitimate rape,

    Yawn
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