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    I know,that mushrooms,and other psychedelics can be used to self healing,and even helping to get rid of addictions.By the way,I have read,that drugs can be divided in two categories,and to me it sounds quite right: -"Body drugs",..heroin,speed,downers,barbs,cocaine..etc,a nd - "mind drugs",.. LSD,shrooms,ayahuasca (DMT),some chemicals invented by Shulgin,etc.. What do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrizze View Post
    I know,that mushrooms,and other psychedelics can be used to self healing,and even helping to get rid of addictions.By the way,I have read,that drugs can be divided in two categories,and to me it sounds quite right: -"Body drugs",..heroin,speed,downers,barbs,cocaine..etc,a nd - "mind drugs",.. LSD,shrooms,ayahuasca (DMT),some chemicals invented by Shulgin,etc.. What do you think?
    Yes that is exactly what I mean Chrizze. The present medical model is based on seeing us as like biological computers, and all notion of spiritual depth is not understood, so they push drugs which are suppsed to 'fix' a 'defectiveness' in a 'machine', and which does not address how we are really feeling. All culture is based on this shallow understanding and is why it is SO mean---why that people have to sleeep on the streets if they lose their home and money.
    There is no sanctuary for so many people--unless they chose to be a monk. No place people can go, even for two days, and just explore themselves and the land. This is a very fucked up system. VERY oppressive, and breeds all forms of body and mind and soul distress.

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    HEY Chrizze, how is ya?
    I have just come across this very interesting article and thought you might be interested to read it:

    Psychiatry under fire in the UK — British Psychological Society takes issue with the bio-medical model
    The shakedown of psychiatry continues. From the UK’s Guardian:

    There is no scientific evidence that psychiatric diagnoses such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are valid or useful, according to the leading body representing Britain’s clinical psychologists.

    In a groundbreaking move that has already prompted a fierce backlash from psychiatrists, the British Psychological Society’s division of clinical psychology (DCP) will on Monday issue a statement declaring that, given the lack of evidence, it is time for a “paradigm shift” in how the issues of mental health are understood. The statement effectively casts doubt on psychiatry’s predominantly biomedical model of mental distress – the idea that people are suffering from illnesses that are treatable by doctors using drugs. The DCP said its decision to speak out “reflects fundamental concerns about the development, personal impact and core assumptions of the (diagnosis) systems”, used by psychiatry.

    Dr Lucy Johnstone, a consultant clinical psychologist who helped draw up the DCP’s statement, said it was unhelpful to see mental health issues as illnesses with biological causes.

    “On the contrary, there is now overwhelming evidence that people break down as a result of a complex mix of social and psychological circumstances – bereavement and loss, poverty and discrimination, trauma and abuse,” Johnstone said. The provocative statement by the DCP has been timed to come out shortly before the release of DSM-5, the fifth edition of the American Psychiatry Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. (READ THE REST)

    The controversy over the DSM 5 is spreading outward across the world. Hallelujah.

    UPDATE: More info here on Mad in America: UK Clinical Psychologists Call for the Abandonment of Psychiatric Diagnosis and the ‘Disease’ Model
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    also please checkout this: VERY moving:
    As a social worker and clinician working with “the seriously mentally ill” for many years, I never came upon someone who didn’t have fairly severe traumas in their histories. Yes, I can say those who I encountered who were in that particular labeled segment had a solid 100% rate of trauma in their histories. Mental illness in large part is a reaction to trauma. It’s quite simple really. When we start listening to people’s stories of pain rather than numbing them out and effectively silencing them with neurotoxic drugs we will start healing them. Until then people will remain broken. One of the most basic needs for a wounded human being to heal is to be seen. Recognized. Validated. Yes. (Trauma and PTSD collected info, commentary and links)

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    Yes,very interesting articles indeed. About how I am doing,.. I am a bit down now,..there was just the mother's day,..and about a month from now is first anniversary of my mother's death...
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    Hi Chrizze, I am so sorry, that must be very painful for you. I send out an embrace to you

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    I am in mental hospital now,and decided to kick those new medications away,and try something older,namely Aurorix,(not sold in U.S.),active chemical is Moclobemide.There is good article in wikipedia.that past coctail took away my appetite,I lost 30kg in past seven months.

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    HI Chrizze, sorry to hear your in there man. Hope though you are feeling OK? I think about you quite a bit

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    I am,I always come here by my own request,when I feel,that it is necessary.

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    Chrizze, I'm glad to hear you're working with your doctors on treatment for your current health conditions.

    Remember that even without mental health troubles, people can often struggle heavily with grief. Sometimes it can become "complex grief."

    I wanted to ask, when you remember your mom, is there something you would have wished for her? Something else she could have seen or done in life? When my aunt died of cancer, I missed her in my selfish reasons as my confidante and friend within my family, but I also felt she had lost out on many adventures in her own future. She loved to travel, and I don't travel so often but I think of her when I do. She loved to cook and to enjoy food, and sometimes I think of her after a new meal. Do you remember your mom in that way or how?
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Well,I wish,that she would never had schizopfrenia,so she would not have to take those medications,that ultimately killed her.

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    I read the article on moclobemide; it was interesting. Have you had a prescription for aurorix before?
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: Suicide attempt,that almost succeeded.But I only wanted pain to stop

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrizze View Post
    I am,I always come here by my own request,when I feel,that it is necessary.
    It's awesome that you can do that! Having a refuge on hand is great.

    I hope it's a good one, though -- there are still too many that are much different from what was in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrizze View Post
    Well,I wish,that she would never had schizopfrenia,so she would not have to take those medications,that ultimately killed her.
    I knew a psychiatrist who was also a professor. On his door he had a snippet from the New Testament:

    WE SEE THROUGH A GLASS, DIMLY


    His point was that doctors really don't understand the brain, and in many ways what they do to treat mental disorders is like alchemy. It's like looking at something through a small window, where you can't see more than a tiny bit at a time, and it's dim on the inside anyway, so not only don't we know exactly how the medications we have to use work, we don't even know how to aim them.

    To me it's a lot like metallurgy: As it got going in the Middle Ages (though that was still simpler!): mix something together, pour it in your mold, and see if what you thought would be a good alloy is of much use at all; and if it is, keep charts and tables showing how it behaves and how good it is for various jobs, until you think you might just understand it enough to try a guess on how to do it a bit better. Now we have equations and computers and even molecular models to go on, but there's still a lot of guesswork.

    And as a result, it isn't all that surprising when something that seems to do the trick proves fatal. With your mom (and many others), the meds that helped turned out to be poisons -- and all too often that was the only way we learned they were poisons, because they started killing people; with metals, there were airplanes built and the metals seemed superb, until they suddenly started cracking in midair or on landing.


    The truly frustrating thing is that we don't really know what "schizophrenia" is: at the end, it's just a label for a bunch of symptoms for which we don't know the cause ... or even if it's just one cause or several.

    So doctors keep trying. Not a heck of a lot of fun to be the subjects of their efforts, though, huh?

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    To bankside,never had,because big pharma had marketed more modern things..And I always do my research,and suggest new medication to the doctor..
    I have remark in my medical records,that says:"patient is having exceptionally good knowledge about medical science,medications,and procedures"
    To kulindahr.. yes,it is really good to have this option... I know,we don't know how brains and medications work exactly,but it is good,that they do,usually.

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    I got back home tuesday, let's see how things are going to get...
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    glad to hear your back home I hope you that you use this thread and boards to share how you feel, ideas, and express yourself. I think this is SO important to do because many us us from being kids are like pushed INto ourselves. So that even with ourselves this becomes internalized, and some people cannot even cry and let emotions out, or articulate to themselves how they are really feeling.

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    I have tried,this is very popular thread in this sector of forum...name doesn't resemble it anymore though,it would be more like Chrizze's life now.But what I wrote,I did wrote.I have these same conversations going in two sites,this is international Gay site,other is Finnish Drug abusers site.(current,or former).
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    Hey Chrizze - just stopping by to say hi. How are things?
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Well,certainly they are not worse,than before my medication was changed.. Perhaps I am starting to dare to believe,that I might survive from all this after all.
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    Re: Suicide attempt,that almost succeeded.But I only wanted pain to stop

    If you were strong enough to make it this far, you have what it takes to make it all the way. There's no doubt about that.

    There will still be ups and downs. That's the way life goes. But you've already proven you're a winner, you just need to make it to the finish line to pick up your medal.

    We who have been following your struggles are proud of you. Very, very proud. Just wanted you to know that.

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    I personally do not like the 'winners or losers' model at all. This is a model where so-called 'winners' are paraded about at the expense of so-called 'losers'.

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    I would agree with you if Chrizze were battling against another person, but he isn't. He's struggling against depression and grief, and if at the end of that battle he's the winner and depression and grief are the losers, I have no problem with that at all and will happily join in his parade.

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    Chrizze thanks for your update.

    After so many pages of this thread, those posting here sometimes disagree or even debate mental health topics, even while trying to be helpful. To me it means many aspects of mental health are still not clearly understood, thus the differences of opinion and knowledge. I hope you dont find that frustrating. I find it encouraging that the discussion is taking place.

    I hope things are well.
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    No,I don't find these discussions frustrating at all, everybody has had something to offer,.. Things are going rather steady.
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    Last weekend,at midsummer festival,which also was a time,when my mother died last year,it was quite....drugs,and rock'n roll.It seems,that I have adopted a kind of "coulnd't care less" style of life.It could not to be sustained forever.And I know this.
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    I don't know why,but this song sounds good right now.
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    I like that band. Their music is very powerful.

    In what way does it feel good to you Chrizze?

    let me tell you the feelings it inspired in me when listening. Well I was thinking of the control freaks running/ruining this world. I also remember a documentary I saw several weeks ago. It was on the BBC TV, and was about this man in Australian who thinks he is Jesus Christ reborn and has followers--believe it or not! Somehow these total idiots have a charisma that attracts VERY gullible people.

    But what I noticed very much was that the followers the TV crew interviewed were EXTREMELY emotional, and on the verge of tears, and crying most of the time!!
    So it is like these control-freaks who start these cults seems to know how to sustain an emotional need in people as a means of controlling them.

    I am in no way against emotion. But the real healing way is to allow emotional honesty to flow. But these people were stuck in this unresolved emotional guagmire

    Just finished reading this amazing book called Decomposing the Shadow: Lessons from the Psilocybin Mushroom, by James W Jesso

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    Must be VERY gullible people,...but,there is so many kinds of us in this world...in that song,I feel,that there is two people,chorus,and this "and I control you",I feel that to resemble some sort of duality in me,...or I had completely misintepreted the song,which is more obvious.treznor's lyrics are always hard.
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    OK right. You mean as though there is a a part of you you feel dissociated from? One that is teasing you saying it controls you?

    I think the so-called 'schizophrenia' is something like that but more extreme, where people that have seriously abused them become dissociated voices telling them they are bad, and wanting to control their actions etc

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    Yes,kind of,except,that I do not really "hear" any voices,..but like having a vague feeling,that I I have gave control over my life to some external thing,and that I am no supposed to,or necessary to do so.As far as we are talking about that song.
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    I see.
    I heard this girl once describe what it was like becoming 'schizophrenic'. She had left home to begin university, anfd felt very stressed, alone, and began to feel people around her were talking about her, and eventually these imagined voices began speaking in her head saying negative things about her.

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    Do you think,that I am becoming schizophrenic? I am too old for that shit.I mean,literally,you are supposed to do that in early teens.
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    Re: Suicide attempt,that almost succeeded.But I only wanted pain to stop

    Chrizze, I don't know. But in your posts you show a detailed knowledge of the useful effects and unhelpful side effects in the medications you have taken. Are you taking any medications right now which could be changing brain chemistry in ways similar to what happens in schizophrenia? If so I suggest you just observe the symptoms and review with your doctor.

    I listened to the song. As a listener, it seems clear to me that Trent Reznor wants to convey what it is like to feel powerless, manipulated, unable to direct or escape the routines of life. I think Reznor also uses musical techniques to help cause the listener to feel the mood of helplessness. When he changes his voice to sing half the lyrics, it gives the impression of two people debating or struggling for control, one helpless, and one dominant. But the lyrics are all in the first person, suggesting it should only be one person's thoughts, which we would expect to be coherent. This has the effect of introducing tension and ambiguity, and self-doubt, and even the idea that one's own identity may not be clear. I think these are the feelings he wants to explore artistically in this song.

    There is a very long tradition of exploring themes like this in the arts. I don't know if any artist has ever provided a direct answer for how to overcome those feelings, and if I approached that song with an analytic mindset looking for a solution, it would be both compelling and frustrating.

    There is also a very long human tradition of struggling with the same themes represented by artists in works like this. What is interesting to the artist is often interesting to the audience. But that does not mean either will be able to find a solution to the issues he raises.

    If the song initiates feelings of confusion or duality when you listen to it, perhaps it is not because of schizophrenic characteristics emerging in your mind, but simply because these are the artistic themes he explores in the song. I felt some of the same responses you describe, and the responses I have explained here, but I am confident it does not represent a change in my mental health that could be explained by schizophrenia.
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    Bankside: - very good analysis about the song,..and thanks for reminding me about those things with medications.

    To whom it may concern: - sometime in next weeks I have to change my landline internet connection to cheaper,and in someways more limited wireless prepaid connection.there could be about a months interruption in my ability to get back to the net.Don't worry,nothing bad has not happened,this is purely financial thing.

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    I don't know how long I can hold together this thing called my life,I cannot see,how to change it,and definitely I can't see to go on like this. It would be easy to make last drink.laced with potassium cyanide,which I am in possession of.These are my feelings now.
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    Chrizze, you have been checking in with us frequently over the last year. Even very recently you have shown us you felt optimism. That feeling will not last every day. But the frustration will not last either. You don't have to fix everything and keep everything together. Do you have a crisis contact to support you while this negative feeling lingers?
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Well,yes,but they can help you only so much.offering pills,which,by the way,had made me addicted to them.
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    Hey Chrizze, how are you feeling today man?

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    I saw this video recently which I think is very good!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrizze View Post
    I don't know how long I can hold together this thing called my life,I cannot see,how to change it,and definitely I can't see to go on like this. It would be easy to make last drink.laced with potassium cyanide,which I am in possession of.These are my feelings now.
    Well,how would you think it would feel?
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    Chrizze it feels like you're putting pressure on yourself to feel well by now. Intellectually you know you have a chronic illness with good times and bad, and with flare-ups and periods of remission. I know you're in a difficult time now, but don't feel pressure to turn off the negative emotions like a switch.

    Can you do something just emotionally neutral? Go for a walk or watch the clouds for a bit?
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    Do you have a passion, something that it overrides any other feelings? Maybe a good mix of passion and neutral activities (like bankside mentioned) will keep your mind off things.

    And another idea, do you meditate or have you ever tried it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightbe View Post
    Do you have a passion, something that it overrides any other feelings? Maybe a good mix of passion and neutral activities (like bankside mentioned) will keep your mind off things.

    And another idea, do you meditate or have you ever tried it?
    Or combine the two -- for example:

    I plant trees for conservation work. I do it methodically, and it functions very like meditation, especially once the little tree is in the ground and I sit and contemplate its place in the world, and imagine it becoming a strong and vigorous parent of many other trees, giving shelter to birds and other wildlife, and providing shade for wildflowers.

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    No,I don't think that I have any passion like that,and what Bankside mentioned,would work very short time,at the the time.I don't think I am putting pressure to myself to feel or be anything,this comes "outside".so to speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludolfo View Post
    I saw this video recently which I think is very good!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrizze View Post
    No,I don't think that I have any passion like that,and what Bankside mentioned,would work very short time,at the the time.I don't think I am putting pressure to myself to feel or be anything,this comes "outside".so to speak.
    I didn't see you comment on the above video. There are some things I would have said about it when I was suicidal -- what do you have?

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrizze View Post
    No,I don't think that I have any passion like that,and what Bankside mentioned,would work very short time,at the the time.I don't think I am putting pressure to myself to feel or be anything,this comes "outside".so to speak.
    As I understand it, you feel that it's an external pressure. Is that correct? Is it that you think somebody's pressuring you?

    You say you don't think you have a passion. I don't think that means you should stop looking. What puts you at peace and gives satisfaction? Reflect; what do you enjoy? What moves or interests you?

    Some people like films or literature because they break from reality (or their adherence to it), others prefer puzzles because they like to solve things. Some people look at art because they enjoy reflection, others turn to music. You can enjoy anything for any reason. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

    You've also mentioned (on a few occasions) that you find certain songs powerful or moving. Can you play music?

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    Pressuse is,of course,literally does not come from outside,it just feels so.Mightbe,you had good ideas,I appreciate.Kulindahr,I am very bad to watch videos here,I want people to say things themselves,instead of "shining with borrowed light".
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    yet you share videos chrizze. do you expect people not to watch them?

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    Very good point,I try to remember that,thanks,Ludolfo.
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