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'American Idol' Season 12

Charlie is the worst singer this show has ever had. Seriously.
 
I was ecstatic when Charlie Askew didn't make it into the Top 10 tonight, but my joy was short-lived when Zoanette didn't make it either. Damn you Worsters! This is why you focus all your voting power on ONE awesome candidate (Zoanette) rather than splitting your time between two and causing them both to be eliminated.

That said Angela, Candice and Kree all made it and since by all rights that should be the F3, I'm cool with the results. Though I have to admit Lazaro is making me nervous. He's the only boy who's even remotely cute and as slipintothefog pointed out, the tween/cougar block isn't terribly discriminating when it comes to choosing a TV boyfriend. If they can't get a harmless Pooh Bear, they'll settle for a harmless Piglet (come on, give me credit for at least finding a stuttering animated character to make this analogy work).



It would be horrific/hilarious if Lazaro ends up winning in the most gerrymandered season for a female yet, all because producers totally misjudged the ability of even a handicapped hunk to make dried-up vaginas go, "Ah, that old feeling!" and pubescent vaginas go, "Ooh, a new feeling!"
 
I still love Burnell and am really sorry Breanna didn't make it. After that fiasco that Zoanette did the other night I am not surprised she didn't make it - But Jolley going thru was an insult to singing.
 
Sgt Pepper said:
I was ecstatic when Charlie Askew didn't make it into the Top 10 tonight, but my joy was short-lived when Zoanette didn't make it either. Damn you Worsters! This is why you focus all your voting power on ONE awesome candidate (Zoanette) rather than splitting your time between two and causing them both to be eliminated.
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A few things, Pepper. First is that VFTW never splits the votes; they pick one option and stick with him/her. The reason they supported Zoanette and Charlie is because the male and female votes were handled separately with the top five votegetters of each gender going on. If they both somehow survived this week, VFTW would have picked ONE of them (most likely Zoanette, of course) and stuck with that single person for the finals. It happened in Season 9 where we supported Paige Miles and Tim Urban when the votes were done for the semifinalists by gender, and then VFTW supported Tim over Paige -- instead of supporting them both -- once everyone was integrated into the same field during the finals.

The other thing is that it's much, much harder to actually get a VFTW pick into the top ___ out of a field of candidates rather than just to keep one person from being the very bottom one. It's how all of the VFTW picks -- including the amazing Tatiana Del Toro and Normand Gentle -- were absolutely killed in the top 36 of Season 8. It was much, MUCH harder to make somebody top 3 out of a field of twelve than not twelfth in a field of twelve. (Or top five out of ten rather than not tenth, in this year's case.)

P.S. I think Paul could have just as much swoon potential for the female fans as Lazaro. It doesn't help that he sings country which always guarantees an extended life on AI compared to what he should have.
 
slipintothefog said:
The other thing is that it's much, much harder to actually get a VFTW pick into the top ___ out of a field of candidates rather than just to keep one person from being the very bottom one. It's how all of the VFTW picks -- including the amazing Tatiana Del Toro and Normand Gentle -- were absolutely killed in the top 36 of Season 8. It was much, MUCH harder to make somebody top 3 out of a field of twelve than not twelfth in a field of twelve. (Or top five out of ten rather than not tenth, in this year's case.)
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That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for explaining it to me. So who does VFTW try to save each week now? (I'm assuming a boy since the producers want a girl and none of them outright suck?)
 
Worst season ever -- From the judges right down to the talent -- Time to pull the plug on the show --
 
FanofFiction said:
Charlie is a runner up for that honour, but in my opinion the worst is still Sanjaya Malakar. The worst. Simply the worst.
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For me, Sanjaya still had at least one decent performance (Besame Mucho) whereas Charlie has been tuneless, screeching and an assault on the ears every single time. Even at his worst, Sanjaya wasn't that terrible (and I found him way more likable/entertaining).

knobby said:
Worst season ever -- From the judges right down to the talent -- Time to pull the plug on the show --
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Every year people say this and every year people forget that it's still the highest rated non-sports show on TV. We can gripe about the quality of the singers or the judges or whatever, but the show is still a big cash cow for FOX. Which means they don't have an incentive to "fix" it and they're certainly nowhere close to pulling the plug on it.
 
Thankfully, this season's ratings are crashing hard. Their average last year was 18-19 million? This year it's like 13-14 million. Unless something changes, Idol can't stay at #1 for much longer (although it might take until next year). Nicki Minaj outshines all of these hos anyway.
 
BUT NCIS and NCIS LA both beat Idol in the ratings Tuesday night. I have a feeling with this line up of singers they will sink lower. Not a great bunch over all with a couple of minor differences.
 
Makes more sense for FOX to want to keep the ratings and ad revenue rates up, and not just settle. Go back to three judges after this season. Emphasize the talent and get more talented people through. Then again, these hacks don't give a shit it seems.
 
Sausy said:
Makes more sense for FOX to want to keep the ratings and ad revenue rates up, and not just settle. Go back to three judges after this season. Emphasize the talent and get more talented people through. Then again, these hacks don't give a shit it seems.
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I keep wondering why they can't just get Simon back. X Factor is a hot mess and (even worse) totally irrelevant to the pop culture conversation. I can't imagine it would be that difficult to lure him back with the right amount of money.

That said, I actually think they've finally hit on the right combination of judges that harkens to the show's glory days. If they would just get rid of Randy -- like we've all been saying for years now -- and as you said, put the focus back on the contestants, then Nicki/Mariah/Keith could actually fill the original slots nicely. Nicki is clearly the new Simon, willing to call out a bad performance and just...be the bad guy. Mariah is SO the new Paula, practically starting all her critiques with "You look lovely tonight" and thereby adding that soft touch that balances out Nicki. And Keith is the new Randy because he talks funny (Australian-English vs Randy-English).
 
Sausy said:
Makes more sense for FOX to want to keep the ratings and ad revenue rates up, and not just settle. Go back to three judges after this season. Emphasize the talent and get more talented people through. Then again, these hacks don't give a shit it seems.
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I'd actually care enough to watch again if:

1. They get rid of Randy. That "yo dawg" and "it's kinda pitchy" shit got old in Season 2.

2. Ban Keith Urban's songs. They are boring as fuck, and the contestants do it to kiss his ass.

3. Replace Ms. Seacrest. Her smug face makes me want to beat the crap out of a kitten, using a puppy as a bludgeon.
 
^ Yes, I think I kind of agree with you.

I get annoyed when the singer sings for like 80 seconds and those damned judges go on and on for five minutes. :(
 
Idol isn't going anywhere as long as it pulls in 10-15 million viewers. It's ratings continue to erode, but it's important to remember that there are more reality competitions on now, so it probably affects ratings on all of them, even if they are on at different times of the year, people could just be sick of them.

Billboard released the top 100 American Idol Hits Of All Time, ranking the singles released by American Idol contestants based on their performance on the Hot 100.

- Carrie Underwood has the most singles on the list (20)
- Kelly Clarkson has the most singles in the top 10 (6). She also has 18 singles total on the list, and holds the both #1 and #2 spot on the list.
- Kelly Clarkson's "Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)" is the top selling "Idol" single of all time, but will probably get overtaken by Phillip Phillip's "Home" later this year.

The Top 5 are

5. Breakaway - Kelly Clarkson
4. Behind These Hazel Eyes - Kelly Clarkson
3. No Air - Jordin Sparks & Chris Brown
2. Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) - Kelly Clarkson
1. Since U Been Gone - Kelly Clarkson
 
BreakTheIce said:
Idol isn't going anywhere as long as it pulls in 10-15 million viewers. It's ratings continue to erode, but it's important to remember that there are more reality competitions on now, so it probably affects ratings on all of them, even if they are on at different times of the year, people could just be sick of them.

Billboard released the top 100 American Idol Hits Of All Time, ranking the singles released by American Idol contestants based on their performance on the Hot 100.

- Carrie Underwood has the most singles on the list (20)
- Kelly Clarkson has the most singles in the top 10 (6). She also has 18 singles total on the list, and holds the both #1 and #2 spot on the list.
- Kelly Clarkson's "Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)" is the top selling "Idol" single of all time, but will probably get overtaken by Phillip Phillip's "Home" later this year.

The Top 5 are

5. Breakaway - Kelly Clarkson
4. Behind These Hazel Eyes - Kelly Clarkson
3. No Air - Jordin Sparks & Chris Brown
2. Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) - Kelly Clarkson
1. Since U Been Gone - Kelly Clarkson
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Oooh, I'll be sure to check the list out. Carrie Underwood has and always will be my favorite Idol alumni.
 
^My step mom got me hooked on Two Black Cadillacs by Carrie. I feel so old liking music she likes! But I love that song. I love Carrie as a vocalist, even though I don't love country music. Her performance on the Grammys this year was amazing.
 
there seems to be more effeminate male performers this year.
 
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