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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Wcw10891 View Post
    now mind you i havent watched at all this season, but commenting on if an idol can sell out arenas and concerts, that might mean an idol, but those people dont always win, i remember that right after kris allen won, he was coming to a large concert venue where i was and a few weeks before the show, they changed the tickets to buy 1 get one 1 just to fill the seats, and this guy won, this show has always shown that winning doesnt mean anything, daughtry, hudson, lambert, mcphee, all technical 'losers' in the competition but still doing a shit ton more that most of the winners now.
    Even if Adam Lambert would've won instead of Kris, he wouldn't have been able to sell out arenas either. Hudson's fame comes mainly from her acting career. She did win an Academy Award after all. But as far as her singing career goes, not even she could sell out an arena. The only real idols to have come out from the show are Kelly, Carrie, and Chris Daughtry. Realistically though Daughtry has had a lot of success only because he received the most promotion out of all the contestants from his season. Not even the winner nor the runner-up (McPhee) received as much post-show promotion as Daughtry did. It's obvious that the producers of the show wanted a rocker to win the competition that season. And when he didn't win, they still went ahead and promoted him like crazy.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Native Son View Post
    Please. You're the new Randy.
    I wish I could say what I really think about Randy's critiques. But I'll refrain, lest I get called a "racist".

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    ^Daughty's music has fizzled out over the years though but he still makes good money off touring. In terms of commercial success, Idol graduates still do well, but the show has yet to find someone with enough worldwide appeal and lasting power as their original winner. From May 2011 to May 2012, the highest earning Idols were:

    Kelly Clarkson - $8 mil
    Carrie Underwood & Chris Daughtry - $5 mil each
    Scotty McCreery - $4 mil
    Jennifer Judson - $3 mil
    Jordin Sparks - $2 mil
    Adam Lambert - $1.5 mil
    Katharine McPhee & Kellie Pickler - $1.1 mil each
    David Archuleta & David Cook - $1 mil each

    So I mean, technically Idol still gives potential contestants the best shot because it has credibility. This doesn't mean they will sell out concerts and arenas though. But statistically, Idol contestants make more chart impact than other reality singing show contestants.

    The Voice wins in ratings over Idol but their contestants haven't done much if anything on the charts so it makes you wonder. Idol has been around for a while, and The Voice hasn't been able to match Idol's highest ratings, even though it's newer in the public eye and Idol is very old by TV show standards. X Factor (US) is in the same boat as The Voice, only it does worse in the ratings. But it also hasn't produced a legitimate star despite providing winners with a $5 mil recording contract.

    X Factor (UK) has credibility though because some very successful acts have come from there (Leona Lewis, Olly Murs, One Direction, Cher Lloyd to name a few).

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by joesman View Post
    There is not a person on this planet that loves Adele more than I do but Candice did that song so much justice and better than Adele.
    Well that explains it.

    What can I say? Once that melisma kicks in, I'm out the door. She took an excruciatingly slow rendition of a so-so song and elongated it!

    Whenever I'm alo-oh-oh-oh-one with you
    yo-we-owie-oo yo-we-owie-oo well yo-we-owie-oo
    you make me feel like... you make me feel like
    I'm a homa-homa-homa-home again...

    Heaven help us.

    But she does have a cute voice.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by FanofFiction View Post
    Then when Glee did a Mariah and Nicki battle, it gave me hope that this is something that is coming.
    That battle was more entertaining than 90% of the Idol performances this season...or last season.

    And obviously, Darren Criss.

    Last edited by Sgt Pepper; April 17th, 2013 at 09:13 AM.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Simmer down sir.

    God I love you Nikki Minaj.

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    Candice Glover is fuckin WOW!

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Candice and Kree. I've been calling this since before the final 10. Not sure which I like better. But both are sure to get record deals.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Yes Kree & Candice deserve to be the F2. But we all know it's going to be Kree & Angie because the latter has benefited from some Cassadee Pope type pimpage despite delivering technically proficient performances that never feel true emotionally.

    Expect Candice's "shocking" elimination at F3 a la Melinda Dolittle.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    I wish I could say what I really think about Randy's critiques. But I'll refrain, lest I get called a "racist".
    It's your dime, spill it. We're all adults here. But, really, what more can be said? Everyone knows he's a gigantic ninny.

    Now Jimmy... What did he say? "Candice needs a bigger song"? I thought 'Straight Up' was so much livelier than last week. But what the hell was she wearing? Anyway, it worked for me.

    But ultimately Janelle stole show with 'Dumb Blonde.'

    Show over!
    Last edited by Native Son; April 17th, 2013 at 09:36 PM.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Wow. Anyone else following the awesome/hilarious feud between Angie and Lazaro? If not, check out this and this. Slipintothefog, you should be all over this!

    Not that I blame Angie for resenting Lazaro but 1) she always did seem like a psycho bitch to me and 2) I just hope this ruins her Chosen One image so she'll be Danny Gokeyed at F3 and we can have a truly deserving finale with Candice and Kree.

    Come on Lazaro! Keep calling the bitch out!

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Yeah, I saw it on VFTW and I was going to mention here but I figured nobody cared. lol. Angie is such a donkey-faced cunt though and I want her to go down in flames in the most embarrassing way possible (which can't happen now that Lazaro is gone -- how delicious it would have been if he bumped her out). And it's pretty sad that I have stronger feelings regarding her than the rest of this season's cast put together.
    Last edited by slipintothefog; April 17th, 2013 at 10:14 PM.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    Angie is such a donkey-faced cunt
    I know you're bored with this season but God I've missed you 'round these here parts!

    ("God" capitalized in honor of the donkey-faced cunt and her evangelicalism)

    (country phrasing in honor of the girl they tried to sacrifice tonight)
    Last edited by Sgt Pepper; April 17th, 2013 at 11:49 PM.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    I know you're bored with this season
    If you could GIF my reaction to this season, it'd be Nicki Minaj checking her watches all over again. Actually I stopped watching for a few weeks there in the midst of the peen slaughter but Lazaro's hilarious Carpenters cover (and Nicki -- duh) renewed my interest for a week.

    but God I've missed you 'round these here parts!
    Angie notwithstanding, I don't HATE any of the rest of these girls but I wish Haley Reinhart were on this season. She'd show them how it's done in terms of singing while having a personality. Naima too. It annoys me that the last time Idol had chicks I liked, they got swallowed up in the hick appeal void of Miss Piggy and Kermit the Frog.
    Last edited by slipintothefog; April 18th, 2013 at 01:38 AM.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Let's hate on Angie together then for the rest of the season (like we did with Miss Piggy). I would feel like a winner if she were booted at F3 cuz you know she wants to win SO bad.

    Also, in the real life feud between Angie and Lazaro, I'm totally on Team Lazaro.
    Last edited by Sgt Pepper; April 18th, 2013 at 11:35 AM.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Native Son View Post
    It's your dime, spill it. We're all adults here. But, really, what more can be said? Everyone knows he's a gigantic ninny.
    I don't know when you guys first became viewers of the show, but I've been a viewer since season 2. In a nutshell, I came to realize that Randy always speaks more favorably about the black contestants and usually over-compliments the blacks even when their performances are just ok at best.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    I don't know when you guys first became viewers of the show, but I've been a viewer since season 2. In a nutshell, I came to realize that Randy always speaks more favorably about the black contestants and usually over-compliments the blacks even when their performances are just ok at best.
    You know, you literally could have said ANYTHING ELSE about Randy, however hyperbolic, and it would've been 100% true. He's a moron, he's tiresome to listen to/watch, and he lacks self-awareness. He's always been the absolute worst/charmless thing about the show and he should've been replaced after season one.

    But he's not a "reverse-racist" or whatever it is you're trying to imply there. He's given plenty of negative critiques to black contestants (even when Syesha was GOOD he failed to hear it, remember that?) and plenty of over-praise to lousy white ones (Danny Gokey/Lee Dewyze/Casey Abrams).
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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Oh slip honey never mind I take it back. I hate Angie but I can't be on Lazaro's side either after watching this fuckery.



    Girl completely lacks self-awareness and comes across like an insufferable DOUCHE NOZZLE. I guess Lazaro v. Angie will just have to be like RC v. Abi-Maria. No safe place to rest your sympathy.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    I reckon Lazaro could be a photographic model. (I bet there are US neurosurgeons around who could solve his speech issue really quickly.)

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    In a nutshell, I came to realize that Randy always speaks more favorably about the black contestants and usually over-compliments the blacks even when their performances are just ok at best.
    I don't agree. I think you need think to re-think that one. Especially when you have to consider he's just reading off the script. I can't believe there's anything going on, whether subconscious or not...or anything, underneath that unpolished veneer. What you see is what you get with Randy. If I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure he was fired and then rehired as a judge this year. Good move!

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I reckon Lazaro could be a photographic model.
    I think he might be a little too short to be a photographic model, Pats.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    Oh slip honey never mind I take it back.
    Flip-flopper.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Native Son View Post
    I think he might be a little too short to be a photographic model, Pats.
    Most of the top photo-models and porn-stars are short. They fit into the horizontal frame better. Joseph Sayers, for instance, is a shrimp (with a nice penis).

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Oh my god you guys, he's NOT going to be a model. Next topic please.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    They fit into the horizontal frame better.
    I suppose they do. ::groan::

    Should I ask? Who is Joseph Sayers? But now we are talking about porn, too?

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    Oh my god you guys, he's NOT going to be a model. Next topic please.
    But maybe he could, SERGEANT.

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I ain't clicking on that. Nice try, Pats.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Kree in the bottom two this week, WTF? I'd like to slap alot of the people who vote the way they do.

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    ...I ain't clicking on that. Nice try, Pats.
    You don't like penises?

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiff View Post
    Kree in the bottom two this week, WTF? I'd like to slap alot of the people who vote the way they do.
    You know they arrange the top/bottom however they want right? According to the rules, they can't change who the lowest vote-getter is, but they can do anything they want with the rest of them. It would be so like them to put Kree in the bottom just to shore up her fans and/or make viewers think Amber has a prayer of not getting voted out fourth place (which she totally will).

    That said, I can see how Kree would wind up in the Bottom Two when there are only five people left, Candice is still riding high from last week, Amber had a memorable closing number, and Angie is still getting insane pimping despite her mediocre talent.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    As for the rest of the season? Assuming Kree is definitely winning because of the country voting bloc (which...of course she is) and Amber is definitely out in fourth place (which...of course she is) here's how I predict and hope it will go down.

    My Predictions
    Candice gets voted out third place in a "shocking" elimination a la Melinda Dolittle
    Kree and Angie are in the F2

    My Dream Scenario
    Angie gets voted out third place in a "shocking" elimination a la Danny Gokey
    Kree and Candice are in the F2
    Last edited by Sgt Pepper; April 19th, 2013 at 05:17 PM.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    Girl completely lacks self-awareness and comes across like an insufferable DOUCHE NOZZLE. I guess Lazaro v. Angie will just have to be like RC v. Abi-Maria. No safe place to rest your sympathy.
    Delusional self-important bitch (RC/Angie/BB12 Kristen) loses to delusional psychotic bitch who brings the lols (Abi/Lazaro/RACHEL REILLY) everytime. At least for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    Delusional self-important bitch (RC/Angie/BB12 Kristen) loses to delusional psychotic bitch who brings the lols (Abi/Lazaro/RACHEL REILLY) everytime. At least for me.
    Now that's persuasive Math.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    You don't like penises?
    Yeah. Well, it depends on whom it's attached to.

    But I don't trust you. For all I know it could be a giant vagina!

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    OFF TOPIC

    Quote Originally Posted by Native Son View Post
    Yeah. Well, it depends on whom it's attached to.

    But I don't trust you. For all I know it could be a giant vagina!
    http://www.google.com.au/search?clie...GqjmiAeK6IGQCw

    Joseph sayers is very cute

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Oh yeah, you weren't kidding. Very cute!

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    Slipintothefog, I know you find them boring (and I can't really defend them on that score) but since it became painfully clear from tonight's bullshit (why didn't they just have a marching band go across the stage during Candice and Kree's performances?) that the producers want an Angie/Amber final, you should now support Candice/Kree which has the combined benefit of sticking it to the producers and being in line with the finale I most want.
    Last edited by Sgt Pepper; April 24th, 2013 at 07:13 PM.

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    I gotta say, though, that Amber's Power of Love was the highlight for me tonight and then it tempered off into kinda blah. Then there was Angie doing Cry Me a River and she hit high notes in all the wrong places and her emotional range is about river bottom. Candice did great vocal work but the songs didn't do it for me. She is my favorite of the group. And why doesn't Minaj just go onstage and suck some Amber pussy? And still I just don't like Kree.
    I think you mistake me for someone who cares.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    you should now support Candice/Kree which has the combined benefit of sticking it to the producers and being in line with the finale I most want.
    Kree's the VFTW pick, so okay. I'm that easy.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    So do we all agree that the weird timetable + the surprise Ryan hinted at = no elimination tomorrow? If that's the case, I bet they put Kree and Candice in the Bottom 2 just for the hell of it.

    Or will they just do a bullshit Idol Gives Back next week? Probably something for Boston. You know, just to up the cloying meter and to make sure no unfair advantage for the donkey-faced cunt goes unexploited.
    Last edited by Sgt Pepper; April 24th, 2013 at 07:57 PM.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    So do we all agree that the weird timetable + the surprise Ryan hinted at = no elimination tomorrow?
    They have to have a non-elimination week eventually because the show is scheduled to go until May 16 and they have only four singers left. It wasn't the fact that the save went unused than that they randomly had only a top ten instead of a top... eleven, I guess, to make the schedule work out? This year's format was strange.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Have you heard the rumors that they not only plan on dropping Mariah after this season (duh, though the rumor that they wanted to replace her for the remainder of this season with J-Lo seems implausible on so many levels) but that they also plan on dropping Nikki Minaj because -- get this -- the old lady biddies who watch this show in the heartland (gag) find her "too aggressive?"

    I swear to god if they get rid of the best judge since Simon and keep fucking Randy around for another season, I will send some ricin to Nigel Lythgoe.
    Last edited by Sgt Pepper; April 24th, 2013 at 09:12 PM.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by joesman View Post
    I gotta say, though, that Amber's Power of Love was the highlight for me tonight and then it tempered off into kinda blah. Then there was Angie doing Cry Me a River and she hit high notes in all the wrong places and her emotional range is about river bottom. Candice did great vocal work but the songs didn't do it for me. She is my favorite of the group. And why doesn't Minaj just go onstage and suck some Amber pussy? And still I just don't like Kree.
    For me, Amber sings technically well 95% of the time, but she makes me feel something 0% of the time. I realize that's subjective, but I just don't believe her at all when she sings, even though I can tell she's hitting all her notes etc. She doesn't have that raw gift Candice has to just KNOW when to emote in a song. Kree knew how to do that too back in Vegas when she sang "Up to the Mountain" but I swear to god she hasn't done anything since then to reproduce the power and sincerity of that moment. Obviously Candice is the best of this group because even when she picks deadly dull songs (When You fucking Believe last week, really Candice? Fucking David Archuleta did that song, it's so lame) she manages to put her own stamp on it, and I always ALWAYS believe her. Plus she's had the most creative rearrangements this season even though they don't give her credit for that because she's not a "singer-songwriter" or a dude-with-a-guitar.

    Angie of course is just the absolute worst. Fake emotions, sharp delivery, hitting her notes 75% of the time, burning her crazy-eyes into the camera like it means passion...she's not untalented but she's easily fourth in this group. And personality wise, I hate her at Lauren Alaina level.
    Last edited by Sgt Pepper; April 24th, 2013 at 09:22 PM.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    they also plan on dropping Nikki Minaj because -- get this -- the old lady biddies who watch this show in the heartland (gag) find her "too aggressive?"
    Oh yeah. Whenever I'm brave enough to peek at the comments section on any Yahoo! article about Idol, there's inevitably an entire page of hate comments toward Nicki for being rude, not being able to sing, ruining the show with her presence, etc. In reality she's just 2raw2real for the jellis haters.

    Also I'm glad you mentioned the old lady viewers because it reminded me of the rating demographics I saw a few weeks ago. This show has such an older audience at this point that it gets around 12 million viewers each week and only about 3 million of them are within the 18-49 demographic. I always knew the influence of the younger crowd was overstated for the recent seasons, but wow.
    Last edited by slipintothefog; April 24th, 2013 at 09:54 PM.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Last night's show should serve as proof that Candice is not a idol. What could America possibly expect from her in the odd chance that she wins the show? Church-esque songs and lounge-esque performances?

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    Ten out of ten out of ten!

    More fuzzy Math from Randy Jackson.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Tonight...

    Personally, I felt that the contestants sang some songs.

    So how about that Keith Urban? Is it just me or is he way...

  48. #298

    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Three things:

    1. Candice OWNED the night again with her second performance. Not that it will prevent her from going out in third place.

    2. At least if Amber goes tomorrow we won't have to watch the judges embarrass themselves anymore by pretending she's a) great b) a star in the making and c) anywhere near the level of Candice or Kree.

    3. I just FFwd through the donkey faced cunt.
    Last edited by Sgt Pepper; May 1st, 2013 at 10:57 PM.

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Well at least "America" had the good sense to dump Amber. Now will they have the good sense to dump Angie next week? Or will Candace get the boot making it an all-white finale? Did I really have to ask that question?

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    Re: 'American Idol' Season 12

    Candice does own her music and her style and delivers every single time. Angie is so bust with me for her fake looks and demeanor. I just don't like Kree as a person, as a singer. She can sing but never moves me.

    Now I read this morning that Idol had only 11.5 mil viewers, a steady decline all season. The Voice and NCIS beat them. I think they shot themselves in the ass by going after a girl all the way, eliminating the boys who might possibly have a chance before the top 20 was announced, though I did like Burnell. The 18-49 group is almost gone altogether. Why? There is no guy factor. Idol producers want a female because they most likely will sell records but females don't sell the tv show. They rarely ever have. Idol is so desperate they begged J-Lo to perform at the finale. Notice how they are inviting all the guys who have been reasonable effective market makers back on elimination night.
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