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Thread: Who Wants To Defend Joe Paterno Now?

      
   
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    Re: Who Wants To Defend Joe Paterno Now?

    I wonder if they'll put his statue up again, but this time...have it looking the other way

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    Re: Who Wants To Defend Joe Paterno Now?

    Today it was announced that Penn State will pay a $60 million fine, forfeit past championships back to 1998, be banned from future bowl games for several years, and more. These are harsh penalties, but appropriate given the very poor decisions by the Penn coaches and administration.

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    Re: Who Wants To Defend Joe Paterno Now?

    someone tell me HOW all the penalties on the sports programs and the denial of sports opportunity to the young men of the team ... punishes the MEN involved in a sex crime and coverup

    when SMU was delivered the death penalty, it was for bad SPORTS behavior ... recruiting violations

    this is like killing the sports program because a dozen men engaged in bank fraud (bad analogy ... but grasp the idea) ... (should be) unrelated to the purview of the ncaa

    fine them ... leave the punishment to the law and allow the team members to have the opportunities they enlisted penn state to deliver ...

    make it about the people involved ... don't make it about the innocent players who will now be penalized by ... guilt by association

    and the ncaa should stick to penalizing bad sports related behavior ... now they have the right to crush a program for heinous behavior of any staff member(s) ... insane

    this is NOT A DEFENSE OF PATERNO ... more of a condemnation of the society we have become
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    Re: Who Wants To Defend Joe Paterno Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    Anyway, adults who love kids too too much is a warning sign including family, friends and scout leaders ... etc.
    What an asinine thing to say. The world is full of people who love children, some more than life. Pedophiles are practiced at hiding their obsession. Your simple-minded generalization serves nothing more than to justify paranoia from people who WANT to find a bogey man behind every tree.

    As to Spooger's point about Penn State's punishment from the NCAA, what is different about this penalty save the fact that it was imposed in a case that involved criminal activity instead of just unethical? Think about it. When a school is punished for recruiting violations, innocent athletes are harmed then, too. Not all were complicit in recruiting violations. Fines and penalties hurt entire enrollments with their effects and loss of income. I don't see how the punishment of the cover-up was unduly harsh. The pursuit of glory is always an unpredictable path. Move over, Pete Rose.

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    Re: Who Wants To Defend Joe Paterno Now?

    Reap the whirlwind.

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    Re: Who Wants To Defend Joe Paterno Now?

    I remember when people defended a member of this board when it came to something as awful as this. I remember that he was actually guilty.

    Just sayin.

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    Re: Who Wants To Defend Joe Paterno Now?

    I predict the Paterno family will sue the NCAA and Penn State to restore Joe's legacy. So far what I have seen is a report assuming Paterno knew of the serious allegations based on 20/20 hind sight of all the allegations. Until someone can show proof that Joe knew that more than horsing around happened (what he said he was told), I think it's ridiculous to punish him or the players. He reported what he was told told to the appropriate university administrators. Penn State should be punished for a lack of institutional control if the people who were supposed to be running the university didn't act when they thought it was the right thing to do because the football coach didn't think it was the right course of action. Keep in mind, those people may have had more information than Joe as they conducted an investigation that Joe wasn't involved in.

    Going back to 1998 with the penalties makes absolutely no sense. They NCAA claims that's when Penn State first knew of allegations and failed to act. The 1998 incident was fully investigated by law enforcement and the district attorney concluded that charges weren't warranted. The allegation was that Sandusky showered with an under-aged boy. There were no allegations that Sandusky had any sexual contact with the boy. Once again people are applying all we know now to a situation that looked very different in 1998.
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