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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    Quote Originally Posted by CupidBoy View Post
    I've never seen him aside from a few pics here and there but as soon as he opened his mouth I thought "He's gay". I don't quite understand the "I still fancy girls" bit, in fact if this is his coming out video it pisses me off he would say that. That confuses straight people into thinking we have a choice, not that it matters though. Maybe he's not ready to be full on thought of as gay. He is still young, good for him.
    The kid is 19, still in high school and under a ton of pressure, not to mention all the attention from the media. And his attitude is super genuine in the video, so I'd say cut him some slack, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbs View Post
    Real question is......top bottom or Vers?
    Which interviewer will be the first to ask?

    It's just like when Liam and Louis from 1D if there cut or uncut! No one expected to hear that question, but they still answered.
    So will Tom reveal this dirty secret? I sure as hell hope so.

    I suspect he's Vers. Takes all the time, but still wants to take charge.
    Some days I lean to bottom, others verse, I would have to see his boyfriend to decide
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    Quote Originally Posted by datjacob View Post
    It felt strange when Tom said " of course I still like girls." Simply because you are dating a guy. You're in a relationship with a man and you are talking about liking a completely different gender, it just doesn't make sense. I feel like he broke his boyfriends heart while at the same time giving hope to every girl that has ever liked him.
    Considering the fact he came out as bisexual I think he worded it correctly
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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    He's coming out in this video and people are still speculating. Sometimes one just can't win.

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    The kid is 19, still in high school and under a ton of pressure, not to mention all the attention from the media. And his attitude is super genuine in the video, so I'd say cut him some slack, eh?
    Well said. I do hope he'll be a beacon to those struggling young men and women to be themselves, and in doing so make the unusual something that should not need to happen again. If society treated sexuality as a non issue, we'd all be wondering what the fuss was about.


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    Re: The Official Tom Daley thread

    Anyone having a go because he might have denied it should be ashamed.

    How many of us have done the same?! Also, the lad has been through more than many have to in a lifetime. For this alone everyone should be behind him 100%, especially if it turns out he was forced into it by some tacky newspaper. Imagine being forced into outing yourself before you are ready, it's an awful thought.

    Anyway, good luck to him. He's going to have a lot of fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefishinthesea23 View Post
    RaKroma I did not wait for him to come out to fap to him hehehe
    You know...I was talking about that condition where gay men dream their favorite celebs and hot guys around are truly gay. Years of speculation, guessing, gossip enriches lives with imagination. Now the purse fighting among adult men about a 19 year old is whether he truly fancies girls or not. How dare he say that.

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    the way he stated his affinity for the opposite sex came off as defensive like he was ashamed of something...
    Perhaps it was to spare the feelings of the girls he has dated previously.

    -d-

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    Re: The Official Tom Daley thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dougmc92 View Post
    he says in the video he has always been honest- well, that's just not rue- we've all heard him say he wasn't gay- he has a chance to have a clean start- be honest for the first time- don't start with a lie.
    But he isn't gay he is bisexual. He just happened to have been attracted to this particular guy and is dating him. It's like calling GaGa straight because she's dating whatshisface from Chicago fire. She identifies as bi as does Bowie who is married to a woman does this make him straight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post

    The kid is 19, still in high school and under a ton of pressure, not to mention all the attention from the media. And his attitude is super genuine in the video, so I'd say cut him some slack, eh?
    Agreed. Pretty direct answer with no media gloss involved.
    Blah blah blah, something enigmatic sounding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeltninja View Post

    Perhaps it was to spare the feelings of the girls he has dated previously.

    -d-
    Just putting out a beacon of hope for the ladies

    BTW, it's kinda funny on here, people salivating over converting the straight guy while others are freaking out at what that same guy might do next. Always a conversion, never a broadening of attraction...

    In the mean time, check out those thighs of his.
    Blah blah blah, something enigmatic sounding...

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    Re: The Official Tom Daley thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Queer View Post
    But he isn't gay he is bisexual. He just happened to have been attracted to this particular guy and is dating him. It's like calling GaGa straight because she's dating whatshisface from Chicago fire. She identifies as bi as does Bowie who is married to a woman does this make him straight?

    In the video he said he is an honest person but that's a lie because he has said he is straight numerous times.

    Don't say you're straight and than say I'm dating a guy and like girls oh and I'm always honest. It doesn't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CupidBoy View Post

    You think he's a top or bottom? I bet he's a total bottom, tbaft.
    Obviously a bottom. And all that talk about feeling safe in his relationship.... Plus, that ass needs to be fucked silly at least four times a day...
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    Re: The Official Tom Daley thread

    Quote Originally Posted by datjacob View Post
    In the video he said he is an honest person but that's a lie because he has said he is straight numerous times.

    Don't say you're straight and than say I'm dating a guy and like girls oh and I'm always honest. It doesn't make sense.
    I'm sure the majority of us before we came out said we liked girls, and tom daley likes girls and guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post

    Obviously a bottom. And all that talk about feeling safe in his relationship.... Plus, that ass needs to be fucked silly at least four times a day...
    That springboard training certainly gets results...
    Blah blah blah, something enigmatic sounding...

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    Re: The Official Tom Daley thread

    I just can't stop thinking about this sort of thing now.

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    One more jock comes out the closet a welcome addition.

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    We know that he's had sex with at least one guy. We don't know that he's had sex with a woman. It's quite possible and even probable. However, this may be the first time it has gone beyond sex and into a meaningful relationship. This guy may be the first one to find a place in his heart. Sure, he might still 'fancy' girls, but I get the feeling that he may be reserving judgement until he decides if a relationship with a guy is what he truly wants.

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    Quote Originally Posted by CupidBoy View Post
    I've never seen him aside from a few pics here and there but as soon as he opened his mouth I thought "He's gay". I don't quite understand the "I still fancy girls" bit, in fact if this is his coming out video it pisses me off he would say that. That confuses straight people into thinking we have a choice, not that it matters though. Maybe he's not ready to be full on thought of as gay. He is still young, good for him.
    Some people apparently do have a choice. Others are stuck at one pole or the other, while some of us get dragged here and there across the spectrum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    I read his words to be bisexual, although it is entirely possible he just lived in denial, even to self. It would be difficult to believe he fell in love with a man if never jerked off to a male image, etc., but sexuality is developmental, contrary to the repeated proclamations of being born that way.

    Orientation may well have a genetic cause, but sexuality is a development. He is on his way to his own.

    Good on him for being honest and out.
    It seemed to me the whole thing was sort of a surprise to him. That wouldn't be totally unusual for someone as seriously into something as is necessary to get an Olympic medal -- it's not just nerds who get into things so intensely that romance and sex seem minor annoyances.

    The wonderful thing to me is that he lives in a time and a place where he gets to own himself like this, without such immense pressure to conform that he hides even from himself for most of his life. For those of us who never had that, I say hurrah for not just Tom but the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    Yes, some pusillanimous gay men come out as bisexual in a sort of wimpy toady half admission that there is something wrong with being gay oh-but-I-still-like-women sort of ... like that is going to ingratiate himself with homophobic fans, whom should not be cared about in the first place, or a perceived requirement of male athletes to do so. God it makes my blood boil *sigh* but if a guy says he is, there is no reason to believe otherwise until proof emerges.
    I suppose some do, but given my background I always assume that a guy is being as honest as he is capable of in the struggle to realize his identity. Hell, at his age I was still fighting to be able to believe I was allowed any choices of my own rather than what my parents decided!

    And given the apparent puzzlement in his mind over where he's landed, I have to hope for his sake that he isn't one of us whose sexuality shifts with the season or other factors -- you don't know what misery is until you live with knowing that the guy or gal you're enamored of at one time of year is going to be only barely attractive, if that, in a handful of months.

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    Well bisexuals do. It's a gift.
    I wonder if that is why some gays hate bisexuals.....
    It's never too early in the year,
    to spread some goodwill cheer!

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    He still fancy girls.
    So he is bi but has a male partner, good on him

    Why don't i hear more stories about bi who has male partners ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie Boy View Post
    I wonder if that is why some gays hate bisexuals.....
    oh since you are bi, is your partner male or female ?


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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    Quote Originally Posted by Willie Boy View Post
    I wonder if that is why some gays hate bisexuals.....
    I really doubt it's envy. There are really two reasons some gays hate bisexuals or don't believe they exist.

    1) They don't "wholly" belong to the gay community, i.e. one foot in each world. Similar to how Dutch descendants in South Africa view British descendants (Souties.)

    or

    2) They are thought to be sellouts to a society that presumably expects men to be masculine, i.e. men who like women.

    Which is of course garbage.
    Last edited by Alnitak; December 2nd, 2013 at 03:09 PM.

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    i think he's such a great role model such an inspiration for other people i am schocked by how strong and brave he is, how honest he seems in the video how happy he is about his relationship how sure about what he's doing.a great athlete, a hard working champion, rich, a nice guy and honest to everyone about who he is. wish i was as strong as him. i love him so much now and i hope more people are going to follow his example one day. my wish is that one day somebodys sexuality will not be breaking news...

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    i think he's such a great role model such an inspiration for other people i am schocked by how strong and brave he is, how honest he seems in the video how happy he is about his relationship how sure about what he's doing.a great athlete, a hard working champion, rich, a nice guy and honest to everyone about who he is. wish i was as strong as him. i love him so much now and i hope more people are going to follow his example one day. my wish is that one day somebodys sexuality will not be breaking news...

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    Re: The Official Tom Daley thread

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    What did Chris say? I didn't hear anything.
    There was a written article in one of the mags where the interviewer steered the question round to their lovelives. Chris volunteered "if you are gay it can be very hard to come out in sport". He didn't mention Tom but the wording certainly alluded to the subject.Of curse you can twist anything in print.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie Boy View Post
    I wonder if that is why some gays hate bisexuals.....
    The idea that some gays hate bisexuals because they have a "choice" seems really passive aggressive to me. I'm sure it's the reasoning some anti-bi gays use to justify their ignorance/hatred but I doubt it's the most prevalent reason.

    In what I've experienced personally, the idea that a bisexual can choose to love a man or a woman is cause for hatred much more often within the straight community than the gay community. The idea that I'd been presented with some ultimatum between a man and a woman and still chose a man has upset a lot of small minded people.
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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    That he has found someone that makes him really happy is the real story- that it is a guy wont be much of an issue here in UK but may help other less confident gay teens feel a little more secure in other countries

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    and next...
    member of One D will coming out after massive gay orgy between members

    I bet my money, one or two of them hmm...
    OUT after they hit 30/ sooner

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    Re: The Official Tom Daley thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dougmc92 View Post
    yes- but Tom also said months ago- 'I like gay people- ifi was gay, I'd be open about it...proud of it....' if we lied at 17/18- we didn't say that
    Exactly. He went out of his way to make it clear he was straight numerous times but had gay friends and felt comfortable with being around gay people. And now in this video he is saying "I've always been honest" well if that's true than it would mean you are straight like you said in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasoncrew03 View Post
    The idea that some gays hate bisexuals because they have a "choice" seems really passive aggressive to me. I'm sure it's the reasoning some anti-bi gays use to justify their ignorance/hatred but I doubt it's the most prevalent reason.

    In what I've experienced personally, the idea that a bisexual can choose to love a man or a woman is cause for hatred much more often within the straight community than the gay community. The idea that I'd been presented with some ultimatum between a man and a woman and still chose a man has upset a lot of small minded people.
    I've run into that -- it's the "Why would you ever take a guy when you could have a woman?!" reaction. Some guys seem to accept gays as having no choice, but think bi guys who would choose a guy are traitors or something (like anyone chooses who to fall in love with).

    I've finally gotten to where my response is to ask, "Why -- do you think men are inferior to women?" It leaves them baffled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stef View Post
    That he has found someone that makes him really happy is the real story- that it is a guy wont be much of an issue here in UK but may help other less confident gay teens feel a little more secure in other countries
    Yes!

    He reminded me a bit of an ROTC guy I was at OSU with who never had time for much dating or anything, he was so focused on career success, until one day he bumped into this gal.... and kept finding himself shocked that something had sort of taken his head and rearranged its priorities and worldview without even asking him.

    What a treasure, to connect that way.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPGhost View Post
    and next...
    member of One D will coming out after massive gay orgy between members

    I bet my money, one or two of them hmm...
    OUT after they hit 30/ sooner
    Better: two of them come out, announce their marriage, and another two marry the same gal.....

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    Tom Daley is a super star, super sexy and British.

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    I bet you ten bucks that Tom met this special man when he was training in Australia

    http://www.thebacklot.com/tom-daley-...tcham/12/2013/

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    Just for some perspective ...



    GO, Tom!

    All the more reasons to ... No Matter What ...

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    Tom. wear those speedos with pride
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    Re: The Official Tom Daley thread

    Give the lad a break hes only 19 he got there in the end

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    So proud of him coming out. Took a lot of guts to do what he did. Welcome to the team Tom.
    frustratingly still not out.

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    I think the reason he had backlash about coming out is that he tried to play coy/closeted instead of being proud. Ricky Martin is another one that had similar problems. In time, it will get better.

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    Quote Originally Posted by JPGhost View Post
    and next...
    member of One D will coming out after massive gay orgy between members

    I bet my money, one or two of them hmm...
    OUT after they hit 30/ sooner
    And don't forget that JLS are disbanding soon .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    I think the reason he had backlash about coming out is that he tried to play coy/closeted instead of being proud. Ricky Martin is another one that had similar problems. In time, it will get better.
    He didn't actually get "backlash", there at just always some unsatisfied people for whom nobody's coming out is up to their standards.
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    Re: The Official Tom Daley thread

    ^So true. I liked him before and I love him even more now for living his truth. He will likely become more famous after coming out!

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    Re: The Official Tom Daley thread

    Quote Originally Posted by chriszh View Post
    I can't stop crying omfg
    I cried too. I'm sure Tom has shed many tears this day. I'm so happy for him.

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    Re: The Official Tom Daley thread

    Ironically he sounds so much less camp then he used to. I kind of find him more attractive now.

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    Re: The Official Tom Daley thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Tree66 View Post
    …I kind of find him more attractive now.
    Yes. I'm wondering if it's because of the stubble he's got showing in this particular video.

    But I know the video has been carefully planned by his public relations staff who rely on his commercial saleability to pay their wages and sell the book and the TV show.

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    I give him BIG props for doing what he did. He's 19, just finishing High School, as others have said has been extremely focused on the prize for years, and is finally hitting that testosterone wall his pumped up body has been building. (How many "Olympic" condoms did they go through at the last games? They ran out and had to get more, right?)

    He may well be bi- and really attracted to both sexes - he's been living under a rock with a lot of other scantily and un-clad guys for years. IT's what and who he knows and is most comfortable with as a result. He also may have felt the pressure to be a great role model including sexy straight boy, when his mind's eye has been telling him something else.

    I can understand that. Some of you can, too, while others have a harder time. Check out a bit of math/logic/business.

    Standard Deviation - Pareto's Law - aka the 80-20 rule.

    Just about EVERYTHING in nature can be scoped out for normalness within a category - and the results will map on a "standard bell curve" - Sexuality, too. It's not one end of the curve or the other - it's a continuous curve with people all over it -
    One curve could be ASexual to Supersexed Nymphomania, another could be Femaleness to Maleness - one curve for men, another for women, otherwise the curve would be more like a dromedary camel than a bell.

    It is what Manufacturing and Black Belt Certification is all about - 6 Sigma - getting tolerances of manufacturing down so tight that 6 Sigma - 99.97% of manufactured products or more fall within acceptable tolerances.

    Thank God humanity isn't like that - Hitler tried with the Aryan Race and Auschwitz. Variety across the wide spectrum.


    And I know, if I'll only be true, to this glorious quest . . .

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    Re: The Official Tom Daley thread

    Congrats to Tom! We kind of had the suspicion for a long time, but it's great to hear him finally say it! I don't think we necessarily go by stereotypes - there's just certain vibes you get.



    Also, Tom, just make sure you keep your diving straight!

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    Re: About Tom Daley, Olympic Diver

    Quote Originally Posted by gezuse View Post
    Tom. wear those speedos with pride
    And shed them the same way.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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