May 19th, 2012, 03:33 PM
On the Prowl
You have killed Community. Dan Harmon was the heart of that show. It was his vision and without him it never would have become the wonderful thing that it has. But your repeated and desperate attempts to make Community into a show with a greater mainstream audience that appeals to the lowest common denominator have finally gone a step too far. The reason we love Community is precisely because it is not the same as all the other drivel that exists on TV at the moment and also because it is so much more than just a sitcom. This show has heart and it is this, not the jokes, that make us so passionate about the show and make us tune in week after week. Dan Harmon is the reason this show has heart and the shady way in which you have manoeuvred to replace him is a big 'fuck you!' not only to him personally but also to all us fans who have fought so hard to keep the show on TV. Now I finally know what it feels like to exist on the darkest timeline.
May 19th, 2012, 04:07 PM
I heard about this...
Seriously, I don't even know what to feel.
On one hand, I am so happy that Community got renewed for another season. But this is so fucked up. I knew it was simply getting too weird for a mainstream network sitcom and that this would lead to some problems. I'll continue to watch it though. I love the gang too much to give up on it. I just hope they don't water it down too much, the surreal/quirky/geeky elements of the show are so central to its storytelling & appeal. I know the show needs better ratings to keep going but I'm not sure I can deal with a drastic drop/shift in quality.
May 19th, 2012, 07:08 PM
On the Prowl
Makes me sad for the state of television. Everything now has to fit into this simple, easy to understand model. There is no room for nuance or self reflexive, introspective humour anymore. I agree with what you say and I will certainly keep watching the show because like you I have fallen in love with this group of people as characters and as actors. But I think a change in quality is inevitable and it won't be for the better. Ironic that the thing the network is doing to try and boost ratings is ultimately what is going to drive most people away. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things work out in September.
May 19th, 2012, 10:08 PM
I haven't noticed a difference. I still love the show actually.
May 20th, 2012, 05:45 AM
honestly, I wish the outrage over this would die. tumblr/twitter have basically become unreadable because it's all "omg Dan Harmon!" rants.
the replacements they're bringing in are from one of the funniest shows on tv right now (Happy Endings). I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do... as much as I love Community, it really could stand to be less gimmicky/meta and focus on the great characters they've developed instead.
TV shows are about making money; as much as I enjoyed last week's video game episode, I couldn't imagine a channel surfer flicking past and deciding to stay and watch a bunch of 8-bit characters flickering around on the screen to increase the show's ratings. lately I've been feeling like Community is approaching Glee-levels where every episode has to be centered around a theme/gimmick.
with Dan Harmon, there's a 100% chance that Season 4 would be the shows last... without him, there's at least a 1% chance of a Season 5.
May 20th, 2012, 06:08 AM
On the Prowl
I think we kid of have the right to be outraged at the moment. I must confess I don't really know about the people they are bringing in to replace Dan and I've heard good things about them but the problem remains that Community was never their vision, it was Dan Harmon's.
Originally Posted by loki81
It's a shame that TV is all about making money because it limits creativity and turns shows into water downed replicas of one another.
I think maybe if new people had been bought in to take over the show earlier on then it could have worked but now it's too late to try and change the show into something that it's not. I would've preferred if they had left Dan in charge and finished things at the end of next season, whilst still retaining the appeal that the show has had thus far.
And just for the record if I was channel surfing and I stumbled across a bunch of 8-bit chracacters then I would be very intrigued and would keep watching but that's probs just me.
May 20th, 2012, 10:38 AM
Originally Posted by viviorunitia
I think everyone pretty much realizes that next season will most likely be the last. At least let the guy finish things off and keep the show's loyal fanbase happy because at this point they make up the majority of the viewers. Besides, they moved the show to a Friday time slot so I don't even think NBC cares all that much about boosting the ratings anyway. It all just seems very odd/cruel.
March 12th, 2013, 01:47 AM
It's a shame the show is going. Having watched a few eps of the current season, I can see it's not quite up to scratch with the others.
Question - is anyone else a bit disappointed with the reveal of Jeff's dad? I expected something else... something more. The whole event just seemed so understated.
For all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these, 'It might have been.'
March 16th, 2013, 02:01 AM
I'm enjoying the current (final?) season. I agree, it seems a kind of different but they've kept the characterizations essentially the same even though the humor isn't as unique/bizarre as before.
As for the reveal of Jeff's father, I thought it would be funnier/more awkward but it was actually quite serious. Especially with Jeff going a bit out of character and giving that heartfelt, emotional speech to his dad. Clearly, they set out to give some closure to that aspect of his character arc in this episode and I think they achieved that so I'm satisfied with it.
It's very likely that NBC won't renew it. But since NBC is having a bad year in the ratings, TVByTheNumbers predicts that there may be a chance of it getting picked up for one more season because so many of it's new shows underperformed.
Last edited by thatgirl; March 16th, 2013 at 02:05 AM.