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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    I am paying between 3.299 and 3.339 around these parts....

    i do find it cheaper to fill up when the republican party has rallies around here. my mazda3 hides nicely behind their Hummers and F150s plus I can fill my tank from their tanks and they dont even notice missing gas....
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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    $4.13 yesterday on Long Island

    I blame Romney

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    $4.13 yesterday on Long Island

    I blame Romney
    Damn, dude. You need to blame somebody

    I thought we were still blaming Jimmy Carter for gas prices.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Major jump today -- $3.54

    Must be the heat and drought.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammie13 View Post
    Damn, dude. You need to blame somebody

    I thought we were still blaming Jimmy Carter for gas prices.
    and my damn RDX needs 91 octane minimum - yech !!

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    That's why i like ford products... designed for 87 octane baby...

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    $4.59.9 a couple blocks from my place. Sweet.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    and my damn RDX needs 91 octane minimum - yech !!
    That explains a lot about you: driving around in a glorified Honda. My friend has the coveted RSX (will never understand why they discontinued it), standard too, and you could look on the door and see an actual Honda sticker on it.

    I believe I paid $3.42 for regular on my latest fill up. It was $41 for 12 gallons.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Jumped from $3.65 to $3.69 while I was camping.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Gas was going up 5-cents a week...NOW it's gone up 17-cents in just a few days...$3.47...

    Thanks GiancarloC for burning down that oil-refinery in California...Is $4.00 bucks a gallon worth all the trouble?

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    I paid $3.47. A few miles down the road, a store did have $3.35

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Along US 99E today, prices jumped from seven to nine cents over yesterday, ranging now from $3.65 to $4.08.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    394nine down the road two miles (nearest petrol to me). I usually see a drop after Labor Day weekend, but not this year - it's up seventeen cents from what it was ON that weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Drops could actually happen in September (and should).
    As we both said. Ain't happenin'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    The thing to watch is Iran: if the ayatollahs start yammering about closing the straits, we'll see $5/gal.
    If RobMe gets elected and he starts throwing missiles (or maybe even a nuke?) at Iran, would you believe $20/gallon during that brief period that the human race manages to survive before total annihilation? He has certainly openly threatened to bomb Iran preemptively.

    I have absolutely no doubt at all that such an action would cause World War Three - or, as space aliens may call it (because none of us would be left to call it anything), Earth's Final War.

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    [[April 25th, 2012, 07:21 AM]] Link between rising gas prices and Obama was in all the papers and on Fox . Why don't you ask your candidate? He's been making quite an issue over it. Where did the phrase, "Drill baby drill" come from? My point has been all along, that it has nothing to do with the president.

    We need to invent a new word: lying about lying.
    Let's discuss abortion!

    EPIC FAIL
    Oh, but it IS Obama's fault, don'cha see? That's why the prices are going up so much now (currently at the very highest price that I have ever seen in this town). He SECRETLY wants to step down after his first term and he's making it happen by issuing edicts to the world markets and OPEC to PLEASE charge us more for the oil.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    3.71 to 3.85....
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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    $3.55 to $3.77 overnite.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    $3.55 to $3.67 from yesterday to today

    blame Romney?

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    $3.55 to $3.67 from yesterday to today

    blame Romney?
    Absolutely not. $4.59 around my place. However, the station where I go charged me retroactively, so I only had to pay $2.39.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    liter what in the name of got is that? I though a petrol was a seabird of some kind.

    $3.38 Exxon
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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    $3.55 to $3.67 from yesterday to today

    blame Romney?
    No, not that either. It would be AS MUCH *FAIL* as blaming Obama. And for the same reasons.

    However, I don't put it "past" OPEC, etc., to know "what side their bread is buttered on." That, combined with their certainty that the U. S. market is a massive portion of their business, may influence their market behaviour, if they think that manipulating market prices in the short term may affect the outcome of an important election in the United States.

    These foreign entities well know that Republican policies, and a Republican President, are *LIKELY* to follow policies more profitable for them, than Democrats might follow otherwise. For example, Republicans will never be any significant part of passing any types of laws which mandate more energy-efficient cars [better Miles Per Gallon], or encouraging further efforts toward energy alternatives, etc. Republicans are generally all about DRILL, BABY, DRILL.

    Is it possible that prices aren't going down, because these foreign cabals are making sure that EITHER the market price is being kept high, OR the supply is being restrictively manipulated, or both? They would probably like to see the entire United States map turn "red" from sea to shining sea.

    Yet these are the same Republicans who are wanting to start more and more wars, and throw around as many bombs as they can, all over the Middle East - and the Party who seems to be ready to wage a 21st-Century version of the Crusades all over the region. Such a conundrum, such a contradiction...it seems like that would make them NOT want to see more and more Republicans determining U. S. foreign policy, but the politics of decisions made at that level are seldom logical these days.

    One thing for certain: This is "bigger" than mere individuals like Romney or Obama.
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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Ranging from $4.11 to $4.19, except right down at the beach where it's $4.49.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Sorry, I would have responded earlier -- but I was helping to plan a new war.

    There were so many new ideas of where and whom to go to war with that we ran over our time schedule.

    There was also some discussion on how high we wanted the gas prices to go. Some felt that we should go for the $8.00/gal that Obama wants but felt that if we did -- it would just give Obama more votes by fulfilling a campaign promise.

    Oh well, now onto fixing the stock prices for Friday ... a republican's work is never done.

    Quote Originally Posted by frankfrank View Post
    No, not that either. It would be AS MUCH *FAIL* as blaming Obama. And for the same reasons.

    However, I don't put it "past" OPEC, etc., to know "what side their bread is buttered on." That, combined with their certainty that the U. S. market is a massive portion of their business, may influence their market behaviour, if they think that manipulating market prices in the short term may affect the outcome of an important election in the United States.

    These foreign entities well know that Republican policies, and a Republican President, are *LIKELY* to follow policies more profitable for them, than Democrats might follow otherwise. For example, Republicans will never be any significant part of passing any types of laws which mandate more energy-efficient cars [better Miles Per Gallon], or encouraging further efforts toward energy alternatives, etc. Republicans are generally all about DRILL, BABY, DRILL.

    Is it possible that prices aren't going down, because these foreign cabals are making sure that EITHER the market price is being kept high, OR the supply is being restrictively manipulated, or both? They would probably like to see the entire United States map turn "red" from sea to shining sea.

    Yet these are the same Republicans who are wanting to start more and more wars, and throw around as many bombs as they can, all over the Middle East - and the Party who seems to be ready to wage a 21st-Century version of the Crusades all over the region. Such a conundrum, such a contradiction...it seems like that would make them NOT want to see more and more Republicans determining U. S. foreign policy, but the politics of decisions made at that level are seldom logical these days.

    One thing for certain: This is "bigger" than mere individuals like Romney or Obama.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    $3.89 a gallon unleaded regular

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Paid $4.39 today for 91 octane

    the good news is that Pres. Obama said in the debate the other night that it's a sign of a better economy

    LOL

    Obamanomics at work

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    3.39 over here in the wealthy side of KC. I dunno what poor Misery (Missouri) has for prices because I have been avoiding the slums lately.... Sams club will probably have it for 3.2 something...
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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Paid $4.39 today for 91 octane

    the good news is that Pres. Obama said in the debate the other night that it's a sign of a better economy

    LOL

    Obamanomics at work
    Basic economics at work: a better economy means increased demand, and increased demand means higher prices.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    $3.09 on the better side of the state line.

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    I paid $3.07/gal regular when I filled up last night.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    I paid 1.21 per litre last week. Down to 1.13 this week.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    I paid $2.99/gal regular this morning.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I paid $2.99/gal regular this morning.
    $2.99? Wow! Where do u live?

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammie13 View Post
    $2.99? Wow! Where do u live?
    No kidding. I paid $4.02 the other day, and that was with a discount!

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    No kidding. I paid $4.02 the other day, and that was with a discount!
    Always interesting to me the gas tax thingy here in GA. We supposedly have the cheapest or next to the cheapest gas tax in the nation yet we clearly do not have the cheapest gas. Yes, the EPA makes metro Atlanta areas pay extra for certain ozone friendly additives to go in the gas, but the rest of the state doesn't have to do this. So, why isn't gas cheaper here I always ask? Somebody's making out. Ah, kuli, to be Oregon and not have to pump your own gas...the good life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammie13 View Post
    $2.99? Wow! Where do u live?
    Yeah where do you live cause I just search our area and it comes back as 3.16 the cheapest.... Sams?

    I paid 3.22 at Ft Leavenworth.... which military bases pay no taxes BUT the gas stations to not completely undersell local stores offers gas at the average of the three lowest local prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Yeah where do you live cause I just search our area and it comes back as 3.16 the cheapest.... Sams?

    I paid 3.22 at Ft Leavenworth.... which military bases pay no taxes BUT the gas stations to not completely undersell local stores offers gas at the average of the three lowest local prices.
    Well, Jay...I'm in GA...we're often told by the state that we have...and this is merely recollection but came up during a referendum in the summer...that we have the 49th or 50th lowest gas tax in the nation...I believe it was 14.5 cents a gallon. So, one would deduct our fuel prices would be near the bottom. And they are not bad. But, many times I find gas cheaper in TN. Right now it's around 3.50 near my house but 3.35 across town.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    The price reflects what the merchant can get from the local market as well. I just wanna know what type of store Jack is going to because I drive all over the KC area and can easily choose to fill up at whichever store that is especially if it is a full 20 cents cheaper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Yeah where do you live cause I just search our area and it comes back as 3.16 the cheapest.... Sams?

    I paid 3.22 at Ft Leavenworth.... which military bases pay no taxes BUT the gas stations to not completely undersell local stores offers gas at the average of the three lowest local prices.
    I live on the good side of the state line.

    I see no reason why military bases sell gas without adding state and local taxes.

    I usually buy my gas at QuikTrip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammie13 View Post
    Ah, kuli, to be Oregon and not have to pump your own gas...the good life.
    Make that not ALLOWED to pump your own gas. We wait in slow lines because of that. There's an exception, though, for small rural stores which also sell gas, because they can't afford to hire someone just to watch the gas pumps.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I live on the good side of the state line.

    I see no reason why military bases sell gas without adding state and local taxes.

    I usually buy my gas at QuikTrip.
    I know you have posted your irrational hate for two feet to your left almost every five posts in JUB... we get it.

    It is in all fifty states. They charge the same amount as local market and all additional funds go into the morale welfare and recreation fund. We also pay no tax on base shopping for food or any other item. Take it up with the congress from the 1900's when they started the practice.

    I was looking for a store name. I have two fuel checkers that get info about every seller in the area and none have 2.99. So not doubting just want to know the store so I can purchase gas at such a low low price unavailable anywhere else in the region. The apps I use post all QT prices. weird that your store undersells all QT's by 20 cents and of course they dont report that like everyone of there other stores so they dont have a run on gas at that single unique location.
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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammie13 View Post
    … here in GA. We supposedly have the cheapest or next to the cheapest gas tax in the nation yet we clearly do not have the cheapest gas.
    'Twas so, once upon a time …

    I blame Governor Perdue for the increase in Georgia’s fuel tax rates.

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    Re: Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    'Twas so, once upon a time …

    I blame Governor Perdue for the increase in Georgia’s fuel tax rates.

    http://www.api.org/statistics/fuelta...el-summary.pdf
    Oh my...thank Opin. Eye-opening. Our 'fuel tax' is low in GA. Our "other" is out fo control. Lots of hidden fees...you know, those fees that Sonny passed through where he and the Repubs could still say they had not raised taxes. I'm glad our 'zone' did not pass the recent transportations sales tax increase back in the summer.

    Kuli, I really did love my week in Oregon having others pump my gas. Felt like I was creating jobs Not to mention nostalgic. Just wasn't always easy to find gas stations around there. Here there are 4 on every corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammie13 View Post
    Ah, kuli, to be Oregon and not have to pump your own gas...the good life.
    That's not why Oregon gas is so expensive, though. New Jersey is the other state where you are required to let the store pump your gas, and the New Jersey gas prices are traditionally the lowest in the Northeast.

    The lowest I found while in Oregon three weeks ago, and again about two weeks ago, was $3.93 in Medford at Fred Meyer, but I don't have a store card for there. I should, though!

    About 24 hours ago, here in AUSTIN, TEXAS (still traveling!), I paid 3.31nine. I actually saw a 3.28nine just after I filled up.

    I don't call anything like this the "CHEAPEST" gas that I saw - I only say the "lowest." I only use the "cheapest" term when national gas prices are definitely low, like an average of $2.17 or something (well, anything below $2.50 I guess).

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    I live on the good side of the state line.
    Good side.
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    You don't need to be that secretive, Jack - nobody's gonna come and "get" you, haha. I don't think of either side, in that area, as being the "bad" side.
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    I paid $2.97/gal regular tonight

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    I paid $35 for 33L this morning but didn't notice the price… $1.06 per litre i guess...
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    $3.97 is the lowest in town. I'm waiting for it to drop another dime before I buy any more.

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    ^ 91 cents lower here in Oklahoma City than yours, K. I may see it even lower in Missouri before I'm home.
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    Frank if you are going up 71 maybe but if you are coming up 35 expect 3.15 to 3.25.... I pay 3.20 at Waterway vice the 3.15 at QuikTrip because I have a membership and they wash my car thoroughly inside and out every Tuesday for free...
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    Dropped to $3.87. Word is we'd better all fill up now before the oil companies use Sandy as an excuse to gouge some more.

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    They better come up with a damn good reason to use Sandy... there isnt very much gasoline manufacturing going on on the eastern seaboard.


    Damn.... check that there are six refineries on the sea board affected... yet the refineries are already back operating so how it can push prices higher for a long term is anyone's guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    They better come up with a damn good reason to use Sandy... there isnt very much gasoline manufacturing going on on the eastern seaboard.


    Damn.... check that there are six refineries on the sea board affected... yet the refineries are already back operating so how it can push prices higher for a long term is anyone's guess
    Got a cite? I have doubters here.

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