The Walking Dead [merged]

[thatgirl]

I thought Rick finding about the pregnancy + Shane/Lori would've been more...I don't know?

But when I saw this on tumblr I realized just how bizarre Rick's reaction was:

[Philacruise]

OMG! Shane had a mango in his pants! Am I the only one to notice his bulge and a half?!

It was a good episode and that housing development was freaky. The story should come to a head this week, as they all learn about the barn full of walkers.

Did I hear correctly that last week's episode marked mid season for TWD?

[thatgirl]

^ after the episode on November 27 airs it will go on a hiatus. second half begins on February 12, 2012.

as for shane's big bulge, it looked fake. lol

[mike1491]

I don't necessarily think it was "fake". I just think it had more to do with his pants than him.

[sonny10305]

OMG! Shane had a mango in his pants! Am I the only one to notice his bulge and a half?!

as for shane's big bulge, it looked fake. lol

I don't necessarily think it was "fake". I just think it had more to do with his pants than him.

I don't know but it looks like she had plenty to grab on to


Yeah baby that's the spot



I have to think that after that scene was shot Jon headed to his trailer for a little alone time

[Philacruise]

Tonight is going to be a major cliffhanger! I'm on pins and needles.

[GamerBear]

Wow that last 10 minutes gave me goosebumps!

[AlmondMilk]

Lesson learned: don't click links that say spoilers

[mike1491]

Well at least the search for that girl is finally over. That ending didn't surprise me at all.

Also, I'm really starting to love Shane's bad ass personality. He's like an anti-hero who makes the show interesting.

[thatgirl]

lol, Shane Is Alpha Male. Hear Him Roar. UNF.

Anyway, I'm so damn glad they wrapped up the Sophia storyline. Watching them clear out the barn was so cathartic.

Also, that ending with Rick was the most interesting thing about the episode for me. I'm really rooting for him to stop being so emo & indecisive all the damn time. I hope that was a turning point for his character because he pulls on my heart strings with his perpetual manpain. It stresses me out.

Oh and wtf @ Lori telling Shane that if he's the father the kid still won't be his. Girl. What.

[aijalon18]

Im sorry but Ricky was being such a stupid pussy and Hershel is a senile moron . Even though I overall cant stand Shane and his crazy ass. He did the right thing for once.

Dale cant be dead right?

[FanofFiction]

Ep last night was so good! Thank God they finally cleared that barn out! Nice to see such an amazing end to such a bad story arc as well (Sophia). It broke my heart to see the mother's reaction to her little girl coming out of that barn.

Hershel is gonna be mad pissed.

I can't wait to see what happens between Rick and Shane in the next episode.

[Philacruise]

Dale made an appearance in the final scene so he's alive and well and the show goes on hiatus until February 12th!

I got chills when I saw Sophia. Yikes. One of the executive producers was on Talking Dead and said the scene was shot two ways, as we saw it last night and where Sophia comes out looking normal to the group. I guess they made the right decision. They also noted that Otis had been the one rounding up the walkers, which is why none of the farmhouse folk told the group that they had found a young girl walker!

I don't know what to say about Dale. Hiding all of the guns in a swamp??? He may be next to meet an untimely demise. Looks like Hershel gets with the program and then gives up hope from what I see in the previews for the next episode. Did he finally realize when Shane was shooting one of the captured walkers and she wasn't dying, that the walkers are no longer alive??? Seems like all of the farmhouse folk changed their minds real quick as if this was the first time they'd seen walkers up close.

[FanofFiction]

It may well have been their first time seeing zombies shot in the chest and still coming at them, teeth gnashing. I imagine that would be a sobering moment for someone who thought they were just sick.

[theReckless]

Overall it was a pretty decent start to the season, but I feel it could have been condensed into half the number of episodes.

Though I get that they wanted the extra punch of Sophia being there the whole freaking time, but by that point I think a lot of people had maybe stopped caring anyway :\ I do hope they move on from the farm soon.

[aijalon18]

I hate Rick more and more when I think about it. He is so stupid and lame. Sophia would have lived if it wasnt for his dumb ass and his bonehead idea. Who the fuck gives a child directions like follow the sun and use north and south and shit. Adults wouldnt even get those directions and plus the position of the sun changes. He could have easily took her with him. He wasnt that outta breath. Please let him and Shane have a deathmatch over his skank wife that kills them all.

[Philacruise]

I hate Rick more and more when I think about it. He is so stupid and lame. Sophia would have lived if it wasnt for his dumb ass and his bonehead idea. Who the fuck gives a child directions like follow the sun and use north and south and shit. Adults wouldnt even get those directions and plus the position of the sun changes. He could have easily took her with him. He wasnt that outta breath. Please let him and Shane have a deathmatch over his skank wife that kills them all.

True but the turn of events shows that Rick, as a leader, is flawed. The idea that he told Sophia how to find her way back is plausible and it leads the group to the farm. IMO Fort Benning was overrun by walkers long ago. Rick's flaws create a tug of war with Shane, who is a different but maybe more suited leader in the zombie apocalypse.

I think the writers are trying to show that the group is vulnerable and not always likely to make the right decisons like dunking Glen into the well, the pharmacy runs, Andrea taking a shot at Daryl, Daryl going out alone, Dale trying to bury the guns in the swamp, and of course Hershel's benevolence.

[mike1491]

Oh and wtf @ Lori telling Shane that if he's the father the kid still won't be his. Girl. What.

Well keep in mind there's no Maury show and no courts to have a custody battle, so assuming that she ends up having this baby they may never know who the real father is. Although, I have a pretty strong feeling it's Shane.

[tommy_2_0_0_0]

I was pleased with last night's episode. Finally some action.

[DigitalFudge]

Oh my God

I think Herschel put the girl in the barn (Probanly not but this is my first fan-boy story moment)

Think about it, how else could she of gotten in there non infected? The way Glenn did/How the people feed them? She would of literally had to jump in herself seeing all the Walkers and wanted to die


Plus, she is on a farm and instead of going to the house she goes to the Barn? Obviously seeing it is locked the fuck down she then continues to try and get in?
Whatever, I think it would be nice to have Herschel explain that to everyone after all this time looking for her (In my world where he did it)

[outrageous4u]

Oh my God

I think Herschel put the girl in the barn (Probanly not but this is my first fan-boy story moment)

Think about it, how else could she of gotten in there non infected? The way Glenn did/How the people feed them? She would of literally had to jump in herself seeing all the Walkers and wanted to die


Plus, she is on a farm and instead of going to the house she goes to the Barn? Obviously seeing it is locked the fuck down she then continues to try and get in?
Whatever, I think it would be nice to have Herschel explain that to everyone after all this time looking for her (In my world where he did it)

No no, honey.

She was turned somewhere out while in hiding. Otis found her and "wrangled" her back to the barn. That's why the group never knew she was in that barn the whole time. With Otis dead, nobody knew.

[SoloHero]

[Stoowii]

OMG! The last few minutes were everything! I just watched it from my DVR. Even though I spoiled it for myself (thanks to this thread XD), I still got chills! Very emotional scene! February can't come soon enough!

[FanofFiction]

Sweet gifs

[lolalola70]

they aren't to the point yet, but as a stronger and armed group they could just kill the old man and take over his farm- it's not like the police are gonna come or anything- i think in a real apocalyptic world Shane does have the right idea- it's now kill or be killed-but staying on the farm would be boring tv. so here's hoping they move on in Feb to somewhere new.

[Philacruise]

they aren't to the point yet, but as a stronger and armed group they could just kill the old man and take over his farm- it's not like the police are gonna come or anything- i think in a real apocalyptic world Shane does have the right idea- it's now kill or be killed-but staying on the farm would be boring tv. so here's hoping they move on in Feb to somewhere new.

I think they'd have to kill Otis's wife, Hershels' daughter and the young farm hand as well so it's unlikely to happen.

The show is loosely following the graphic novel so at some point they will leave the farm. My guess is that the farm will be overrun by walkers or another reason will force the group to leave.

[mike1491]

they aren't to the point yet, but as a stronger and armed group they could just kill the old man and take over his farm- it's not like the police are gonna come or anything- i think in a real apocalyptic world Shane does have the right idea- it's now kill or be killed-but staying on the farm would be boring tv. so here's hoping they move on in Feb to somewhere new.

I've been thinking the exact same thing for a while now. Unfortunately, Shane is the only one in the group who would have the balls to do it, though.

[thatgirl]

I hate Rick more and more when I think about it. He is so stupid and lame.

Awww..

If you ever read the comic, he is actually annoying as fuck in it.

TV!Rick is actually pretty loveable/sweet. And so pretty.

Him + Glenn are the only two characters on the show that have my unconditional love.

so here's hoping they move on in Feb to somewhere new.

The next location after they move on (from the Farm) is a zillion times more interesting.

[Donat1]

Sweet gifs

I agree, that was well done.

[justdra]

Well I can't stand Shane and the sooner someone kicks his ass, the sooner he will leave and get bitten, lol. I think wifey will have a miscarriage because sooner or later Shane and Rick or gonna get into over the baby and since Shane was so badass, why didn't she shoot the little girl. I think it was something significant to having Rick do it, just not sure what and sooner or later the truth will come out about him killing Otis. One would think the old preacher would notice the faces of decay and think if they are healed, they are gonna be fucked up looking and also, Shane would have to basically turn on everyone to take over the farm and Glenn is not about to let them mess with his new booty. It would be nice if they took over and Hershel snapped and burned the house down, then they would have to leave. Also, why was everyone upset over the walkers being in the barn? They have been there the whole time they been there and no one had known and no one got bitten.

[Ninja108]

Quite a mid season finale.

[hanzosword]

That was good! It took a while to get to the point of what happened to the girl, but it's a relief at the same time. I'm glad Hershel can see now that the walkers are fucking monsters and have to be killed.

As big of an asshole as Shane is he was right to kill the walkers lol. I would have done pretty much the same thing. Hershel cant tell anybody what to do anymore. There is nobody to enforce the law anymore, jeez lol. That farm is gonna be overrun I think and Hershel is gonna die with his dumb ass no weapons policy.

[willie metcaffe]

I really couldn't buy that Hershel (to see his wife) or anyone else (feeding fractured chickens) would not have known all the zombies by name or by identifying features. Certainly Sophia was described aloud so that everyone on that farm knew what she looked like. Young girl wearing rainbow tshirt. Come on. Presumably she would be shorter than the rest of the pack! Hershel knew. His family knew. Or the show is not being intellectually honest.

Dont get me wrong. I love the show. That last scene with Sophia especially. But on not knowing, no way.

[Philacruise]

I really couldn't buy that Hershel (to see his wife) or anyone else (feeding fractured chickens) would not have known all the zombies by name or by identifying features. Certainly Sophia was described aloud so that everyone on that farm knew what she looked like. Young girl wearing rainbow tshirt. Come on. Presumably she would be shorter than the rest of the pack! Hershel knew. His family knew. Or the show is not being intellectually honest.

Dont get me wrong. I love the show. That last scene with Sophia especially. But on not knowing, no way.

The executive producer said Otis was the one rounding up the walkers so what if he found Sophia, put her in the barn and went deer hunting only to shoot Carl? There would have been no thought about saying, "Oh, yah, I found a young girl walker today," because of all of the turmoil surrounding Carl's condition.

Someone asked why everyone was freaked out upon learing about the walkers. Well, I would be. It was only a matter of time before they dug a hole under the barn walls and started attacking. The farm folk were totally in denial and perhaps Glen and Dale were just naive since they knew for a day or so and didn't tell the rest of the group. Dale's professed unsuitability for the new world and his questionable actions will put himself and the group at risk. Mark my words.

[MercuryJones]

Shane brings the action, and if survival were an individual activity he might be best suited to make it alone longer than any of the others.

But getting a group to survive and succeed takes more than boldness and being the first to act. Does anyone think he could really lead a group to do well over the long term? I don't. He's too hot headed and insecure.

Regarding Rick being so okay with learning about Shane and Lori, I never thought he was actually *okay* with it. Rick is a character who plays things low-key because he wants to do the right thing. I always understood him to be suppressing this little bit of information, which will almost certainly erupt between him and Shane at a later point.

[MercuryJones]

and since Shane was so badass, why didn't she shoot the little girl. I think it was something significant to having Rick do it, just not sure what

I think the point was that Shane is willing to take bold action when it's easy because it's emotionally satisfying, but Rick is the one willing to step up and take the painful choices on himself.

Consider Shane's impulsive act of aiming him gun at Rick because Shane wanted Lori. In addition to being a creepy-ass thing to do, it was stupid from a survival perspective, because Rick added one more strong member to the "tribe", and one with really valuable skills. But Shane considered shooting him in the head so Shane could get laid.

And then consider Rick's response to learning that Shane was sleeping with Lori - although his full reaction is yet to be seen, can you see Rick considering taking Shane out like a sniper? I can't. Because Rick is always going to try to navigate the difficult issues.

[DigitalFudge]

No no, honey.

She was turned somewhere out while in hiding. Otis found her and "wrangled" her back to the barn. That's why the group never knew she was in that barn the whole time. With Otis dead, nobody knew.

So in other words I am 80% right.

I still find it hard to believe Herschel being the P-I-M-P on the farm didn't know about it.

[Stoowii]

Shane thinks Hershel knew.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuHF1AO0nKY[/ame]

[SoloHero]

The executive producer said Otis was the one rounding up the walkers so what if he found Sophia, put her in the barn and went deer hunting only to shoot Carl? There would have been no thought about saying, "Oh, yah, I found a young girl walker today," because of all of the turmoil surrounding Carl's condition.

[Stoowii]

^Yes @ Maggie slapping Shane!

[Philacruise]

So in other words I am 80% right.

I still find it hard to believe Herschel being the P-I-M-P on the farm didn't know about it.

More like 90% wrong. The only aspect where you may be right is that Hershel knew.

HOWEVER, if Hershel knew that Sophia was in the barn, why not tell the group that Otis saw a girl walker wearing a rainbow shirt? Hmmmm? That would send the group on their merry way and be out of Hershel's hair. Keeping mum only kept the group on the farm longer.

[Jacquemar]

OMG I've LOVED this series! I thought my friend and I were the only gays on the planet that loved it!

Anyone who finds shirtless pics of some of the hot guys, please post!

[thatgirl]

Regarding Rick being so okay with learning about Shane and Lori, I never thought he was actually *okay* with it. Rick is a character who plays things low-key because he wants to do the right thing. I always understood him to be suppressing this little bit of information, which will almost certainly erupt between him and Shane at a later point.

I just found it odd that he was terrorizing Lori for thinking of aborting the child for perfectly understandable, well-thought out reasons but was super tolerant of her going off and sleeping with his best friend 2 seconds after they'd left him for dead.

Perhaps Rick feels indebted to Shane for saving his kid's life (& protecting his family while he was in the hospital) so he's holding back for now but at some point he needs to stand up to Shane.

[Philacruise]

I just found it odd that he was terrorizing Lori for thinking of aborting the child for perfectly understandable, well-thought out reasons but was super tolerant of her going off and sleeping with his best friend 2 seconds after they'd left him for dead.

Perhaps Rick feels indebted to Shane for saving his kid's life (& protecting his family while he was in the hospital) so he's holding back for now but at some point he needs to stand up to Shane.

My take on his reaction is that he realizes in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, there are more pressing issues.

Here are some questions I have. How many bites does it take before a zombie will stop eating? For Sophia it was one unless she ran away after being bitten. Do zombies eat until the victim is dead and lifeless?

I didn't see season one. Was the outbreak ever explained and why were all those people dead on the highway?

[MercuryJones]

I just found it odd that he was terrorizing Lori for thinking of aborting the child for perfectly understandable, well-thought out reasons but was super tolerant of her going off and sleeping with his best friend 2 seconds after they'd left him for dead.

Perhaps Rick feels indebted to Shane for saving his kid's life (& protecting his family while he was in the hospital) so he's holding back for now but at some point he needs to stand up to Shane.

I think Rick knew about Shane, and had processed some of it already. In addition, Lori thought he was dead - as far as Rick knows, neither Rick nor Lori did anything wrong.

But his rant at Lori was about her not sharing the information with him, which is arguably wrong.

So not-wrong action vs wrong action.

[thatgirl]

I think Rick knew about Shane, and had processed some of it already. In addition, Lori thought he was dead - as far as Rick knows, neither Rick nor Lori did anything wrong.

Rather than show some respect for his memory, his BFF and his wife got it on so soon after his death. I think that's a good enough reason to be upset about the hookup. It just seems tacky when they're supposed to be in mourning. But you're right, Rick seems to bottle things up as he tries to figure out the best way to approach a situation.

Anyway, it should be interesting to see how it plays out. Especially since Rick still hasn't caught on to the fact that the baby might be fathered by Shane. Can't believe that wasn't the first thing he asked Lori after she confessed to him. Odd. Or bad writing.

[mike1491]

My take on his reaction is that he realizes in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, there are more pressing issues.

Here are some questions I have. How many bites does it take before a zombie will stop eating? For Sophia it was one unless she ran away after being bitten. Do zombies eat until the victim is dead and lifeless?

I didn't see season one. Was the outbreak ever explained and why were all those people dead on the highway?

You're not very familiar with zombies are you??

To answer your questions, a zombie NEVER stops eating. That's pretty much the only basic instinct they have is to feed. If the victim can't run away then a zombie will definitely eat until the victim is dead.

And no, the outbreak was never explained. The zombie apocalypse just happened out of nowhere. It's actually been done before in a couple of zombie movies (I've watched pretty much every one of them I can find).

[Philacruise]

You're not very familiar with zombies are you??

To answer your questions, a zombie NEVER stops eating. That's pretty much the only basic instinct they have is to feed. If the victim can't run away then a zombie will definitely eat until the victim is dead.

And no, the outbreak was never explained. The zombie apocalypse just happened out of nowhere. It's actually been done before in a couple of zombie movies (I've watched pretty much every one of them I can find).

But that's the basis of my question. Once the heart stops beating does the zombie stop eating?

You say it never stops but I don't think zombies eat fresh corpses do they? Isn't that why Shane had to wound Otis and not kill him outright or why the chickens had to be thrown into the barn alive??? Or maybe it has to do with movement only, which is how Rick was able to survive in the hospital in a coma??? Hmmm, then again Daryl was knocked out and a zombie started gnawing on his foot.

I'm so confused.

[MercuryJones]

But that's the basis of my question. Once the heart stops beating does the zombie stop eating?

You say it never stops but I don't think zombies eat fresh corpses do they? Isn't that why Shane had to wound Otis and not kill him outright or why the chickens had to be thrown into the barn alive??? Or maybe it has to do with movement only, which is how Rick was able to survive in the hospital in a coma??? Hmmm, then again Daryl was knocked out and a zombie started gnawing on his foot.

I'm so confused.

I believe the zombies will eat a fresh kill until its devoured, if not prevented from doing so.

Rick seemed to have survived by luck as much as anything else, probably because the walkers just didn't make it into his room, and there was no noise to draw their attention.

[Stoowii]

But that's the basis of my question. Once the heart stops beating does the zombie stop eating?

You say it never stops but I don't think zombies eat fresh corpses do they? Isn't that why Shane had to wound Otis and not kill him outright or why the chickens had to be thrown into the barn alive??? Or maybe it has to do with movement only, which is how Rick was able to survive in the hospital in a coma??? Hmmm, then again Daryl was knocked out and a zombie started gnawing on his foot.

I'm so confused.

Hmm, that's a good point. But my reasoning is that zombies do in fact want their meat fresh. Not a preference, otherwise you would see them eating dead corpses and then what? Do they stop eating them once they come back as zombies? The general rule of thumb is that they don't attack one another.

Think of it this way; Lions want fresh meat. They're not scavengers. That's a vultures job. Lions want fresh meat.