Confess something that might surprise others or damage your reputation on JUB - 2012

[JohannBessler]

I'm thinking of a new screen name.

What about SamSchitzenfahrtz?

<devilish grin>

[Lefty]

Maybe go for a little more cerebral approach

Something more current but with a twist

LETS say....
HAIRY READ



**no extra charge for the political smirk

[JohannBessler]

^I like that, Lefty...

[G-Lexington]

Halloween is by far my least favorite holiday. I think if I got scared easily, I would enjoy it more but I don't. It's the same reasons I find horror movies usually cheesy right up there with survival horror games.

If my facebook feed is to be believed, everybody hates Christmas and everything associated with it, but Halloween should last at least four months.

Lex

[alister]

This won't necessarily damage my reputation but it was embarrassing. I just came home from the drug store and Taco Bell, sat down to eat and realized my zipper was down the whole time I was out.

[JohannBessler]

@Lefty:

What about LarryLovelace?

(The youngest ones probably won't understand the reference, though.)

[Seghers]

Seghers, but surely you must have at least suspected? Your pics were overtly sexual, more than any other JUBber.

First of all, what exactly are you talking about?
I'm talking about face pics. If someone wants to take a picture of my ass and claim it was theirs I couldn't care less, but when you're using my face as an avatar for you online identity, that's a whole different matter.

And to be technical, I don't think that there's anything "overtly sexual" about my pictures, and certainly not more than what people here show in the Amateur section.

[Lefty]

Ally, are you saying you were out

the whole time you were out?

And nobody even noticed?

Or are they to polite/shy to say

anything when they see such as

this?

[johaninsc]

I confess that I love this gif..

[alister]

Ally, are you saying you were out

the whole time you were out?

And nobody even noticed?

Or are they to polite/shy to say

anything when they see such as

this?

OMG someone took a picture! No one most have been too impressed

[borg69unimatrix]

Seghers, but surely you must have at least suspected? Your pics were overtly sexual, more than any other JUBber.

Johann -

I didn't see Segher's pix as overtly sexual. Erotic: YES. Artistic: Absolutely. Suggestive?: Maybe.

...but in no way did I see them as blatantly lewd or crude.

Are you of such a mind where ANY display of nudity is an overt sexual statement screaming for someone to fuck them?

One of the biggest disconnects I see here is, If these Pic stealing "Crimes" were in the 'real' world I would compare them to: Identity Theft, and Rape (in that you're pretending to be them, and essentially using their body for sexual gratification without their consent) - Both of which in the 'real' world are Felonies.

You're comparing them to shoplifting a candy bar - a petty theft crime.

[JohannBessler]

First of all, what exactly are you talking about?
I'm talking about face pics. If someone wants to take a picture of my ass and claim it was theirs I couldn't care less, but when you're using my face as an avatar for you online identity, that's a whole different matter.

And to be technical, I don't think that there's anything "overtly sexual" about my pictures, and certainly not more than what people here show in the Amateur section.

I can empathize with your identity theft, Seghers. Honestly I can.

But look at it this way: someone thought you were attractive enough to want to BE you.

Isn't that flattering on some level? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery they say. I just hope that they didn't do any damage, such as credit card theft, or some such.

@your booty pics: no, they're not any more overtly sexual than the ones in the Amateur forum. You can just bet that tons and tons of those pictures have been stolen.

[JohannBessler]

Johann -

I didn't see Segher's pix as overtly sexual. Erotic: YES. Artistic: Absolutely. Suggestive?: Maybe.

...but in no way did I see them as blatantly lewd or crude.

Are you of such a mind where ANY display of nudity is an overt sexual statement screaming for someone to fuck them?

One of the biggest disconnects I see here is, If these Pic stealing "Crimes" were in the 'real' world I would compare them to: Identity Theft, and Rape (in that you're pretending to be them, and essentially using their body for sexual gratification without their consent) - Both of which in the 'real' world are Felonies.

You're comparing them to shoplifting a candy bar - a petty theft crime.

Actually, I agree with most of this, Borg, except for the rape stuff. (Don't you think that's a little bit extreme?)

I think the question we have to ask ourselves about booty pics is: Are they sexual, artistic, sensual, or suggestive?To judge this, we have to rate the quality of that pic. Let's be honest, here, Borg. He has an unusually nice booty. I'd very honestly classify it as a 10.

Why is this germane to the discussion? If somebody steals a flabby, ugly, hairy ass pic that's a 1, it's not the same as stealing a picture that's a 10. A picture with a rating of 10 would classify as sexual, in my opinion, because it invites prurience. By contrast, no one is going to feel prurient over a flabby, ugly, hairy ass.

I believe that pic has probably been stolen a thousand times. I don't know if Segher's flattered by that, or not. I know I sure would be.

[G-Lexington]

By contrast, no one is going to feel prurient over a flabby, ugly, hairy ass.

I can't tell you how wrong you are here.

Lex

[borg69unimatrix]

Whether they're a "1" or a "10" is irrelevant. And no, I don't see 'rape' as being extreme. It's a non-consensual violation. People commit suicide over their reputations being ruined on line by other people. I think it's very serious.

What Seghers, or anyone else does with their pictures (face and body) is their choice.

What other people do with them publicly (on line), without consent, is wrong.

It's been explained to you several different ways, by several different people and still you don't seem to get it.

I feel like you're either being obtuse, or obstinate?

[Seghers]

I can empathize with your identity theft, Seghers. Honestly I can.

But look at it this way: someone thought you were attractive enough to want to BE you.

Isn't that flattering on some level? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery they say. I just hope that they didn't do any damage, such as credit card theft, or some such.

@your booty pics: no, they're not any more overtly sexual than the ones in the Amateur forum. You can just bet that tons and tons of those pictures have been stolen.

Ok, I really think that what you're trying to say comes from a place of good intentions, but it's still completely messed up.
No matter who you are there's always going to be someone that finds you attractive, and compared to any smooth, beardless muscle twink I really don't think that I'm that popular, so the fact that two people found me attractive enough to want to use my pictures is not necessarily something that I feel I should be grateful for.

[Seghers]

Actually, I agree with most of this, Borg, except for the rape stuff. (Don't you think that's a little bit extreme?)

I think the question we have to ask ourselves about booty pics is: Are they sexual, artistic, sensual, or suggestive?To judge this, we have to rate the quality of that pic. Let's be honest, here, Borg. He has an unusually nice booty. I'd very honestly classify it as a 10.

Why is this germane to the discussion? If somebody steals a flabby, ugly, hairy ass pic that's a 1, it's not the same as stealing a picture that's a 10. A picture with a rating of 10 would classify as sexual, in my opinion, because it invites prurience. By contrast, no one is going to feel prurient over a flabby, ugly, hairy ass.

I believe that pic has probably been stolen a thousand times. I don't know if Segher's flattered by that, or not. I know I sure would be.

Again, I have to stress the fact that what I'm upset about is face pics being used by someone else. Face pics.

[G-Lexington]

And since my opinion has been misconstrued a couple times, I feel like clarifying.

Yes, I don't mind if people use my photos for whatever. I don't know of anybody who tried to pass off my body as theirs, or my face as theirs, and although I'd feel confused by it (because I don't think my body/face conveys anything that couldn't be done with literally millions of others), I don't think I'd be offended. That doesn't mean I think EVERYBODY shouldn't feel offended by it, or that other people who would thus feel offended has "issues", or anything along those lines. That's simply MY personal feeling towards the issue, and I'm well aware that most other people probably WOULD feel angry/violated if it happened to them.

Lex

[JohannBessler]

Ok, I really think that what you're trying to say comes from a place of good intentions, but it's still completely messed up.
No matter who you are there's always going to be someone that finds you attractive, and compared to any smooth, beardless muscle twink I really don't think that I'm that popular, so the fact that two people found me attractive enough to want to use my pictures is not necessarily something that I feel I should be grateful for.

Your pics were stolen TWICE for two different profiles? Wow.

[JohannBessler]

^Seghers, if it were me, I think it'd depend upon how my pics were used.

If my own pics were stolen and put on SilverDaddies, I'd be very flattered.

But if my pics were stolen and put on a profile of Republicans, I'd be so hysterical with anger that you'd have to hospitalize me.

So BORG, I'm sorry, but context DOES matter. I

[borg69unimatrix]

*sigh*

[johaninsc]

I really want to have this bronze of Tiberius. 18mm, 3.8g struck in Macedon...$150

[Seghers]

Your pics were stolen TWICE for two different profiles? Wow.

It's not that uncommon and it's happened to a lot of other people that I know. The first one was back in the days of bear.net if anyone remembers that.

[Lefty]

I take umbrage at the concept one of you introduced that Sexual means bad/nasty.
That word is 50 shades of hot from sensual to provocative to down right pornographic.
Please don't turn it into only a fuck word.

The core issue here is the public internet. The internet is an international and global
public eye. If something is precious and personal to you...keep it so. To share on the
fucking internet is to share WITH the fucking internet. You set it free, where it goes
and what it does is now beyond your control. If it comes back to bite you, you
may warrant empathy but not real fucking sympathy.

Can't compare it to rape or ID theft or other real world shit...its the public internet

Honestly, every man woman and other on here knows that. Now, lets go back to the
good stuff before this thread reeks of CE&P.

[JohannBessler]

^Obviously, a lot of people feel that you're attractive, Seghers.

LIke I said, if I were you, I'd been irritated at first, and felt violated, but in the end I would have felt flattered.

But you and I are different people. Now that your pics are out there, they are out there forever. I don't think it's possible to undo the damage.
You might be able to minimize the damage by not posting any more photos.

I'm probably not the best guy to explain the point of view, because I've always--since 1997--taken the topic of Internet security very seriously, even paranoid about it. Those paranoid measures have kept me out of harm all those years except for once, when I got phished.

Maybe Lex, who's more level-headed than I, can explain the point of view better than I, but I do think an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Good luck to you, Seghers. I see you as a good person who didn't fully understand the danger on the Internet, and got victimized. I hope that you are able to minimize the damage.

[Seghers]

^Obviously, a lot of people feel that you're attractive, Seghers.

LIke I said, if I were you, I'd been irritated at first, and felt violated, but in the end I would have felt flattered.

But you and I are different people. Now that your pics are out there, they are out there forever. I don't think it's possible to undo the damage.
You might be able to minimize the damage by not posting any more photos.

I'm probably not the best guy to explain the point of view, because I've always--since 1997--taken the topic of Internet security very seriously, even paranoid about it. Those paranoid measures have kept me out of harm all those years except for once, when I got phished.

Maybe Lex, who's more level-headed than I, can explain the point of view better than I, but I do think an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Good luck to you, Seghers. I see you as a good person who didn't fully understand the danger on the Internet, and got victimized. I hope that you are able to minimize the damage.

Thank you, but I really feel like you've managed to misunderstand a lot of things in this conversation. Yes, a few years ago someone used my picture on the internet, and that sucked. I think people who do that sort of thing suck and when the topic comes up I will let people know that I think it sucks - that is all.

[johaninsc]

I confess that this is one of my favorite gifs

[Huntneo(PT)]

By contrast, no one is going to feel prurient over a flabby, ugly, hairy ass.

No sir. Not true.

and I abhor this kind of thinking...especially in the gay "community".

[CupidBoy]

I confess that I love this gif..

I confess...

[RazorzEdge88]

I get girlishly emotional over television shows, and not in the way that you'd think.

I don't get moved to tears by really powerful moments in the shows or anything, I just get really giddy with anticipation over really, exceptionally good shows that it makes me want to audibly squeal or something. Like I just saw a promo for the upcoming season of Arrested Development and I wanted to go do sand angels at the beach.

[refujiunderground]

i confess to simply not giving a fuck at the moment. went to this group gathering, talked to a few people, listened to what everyone had to say talking about the group topic, once again, kept my mouth shut. when it came time to bounce and everyone went to the diner to have an after convo, i saw that everyone was already headed to the diner after i left the bathroom so i just went on home. i didn't feel like chilling at the diner, looking at food on the menu i wasn't going to eat, i was too shy to say anything to anybody to be honest, don't think anybody was going to say anything to me anyway. it was like 10 something. the bus arrived at 10:55. i didn't feel like waiting for a 11 or 12 o clock bus so good thing i left as early as i did.

however, i still feel sad just as how i was before and could really go for some sleep. NOT before i eat something and wash myself. to be trill with you, i dunno about this whole dating thing. i don't think i'm going to find anybody to date or have the balls to get myself to do it.

i also am actually really starting to dislike new york city right now. new york isn't what it used to be. i'm thinking about moving somewhere else. maybe another part of jersey far away from new york or even upstate new york or just somewhere away from the east coast altogether. living on the east coast is really beginning to annoy me. i can't fuck with here anymore. i rather move down south, to canada or even the west coast.

[Lefty]

If I was gay I'd probably sleep (or something) with Jimmy Fallon



It wouldn't take even that much to try for Adam Levine (even with tattoos)

[CupidBoy]

^ me too, never thought Adam was anything special, but watching The Voice this season I was like

[JohannBessler]

No sir. Not true.

and I abhor this kind of thinking...especially in the gay "community".

Neo, this is nice to hear, actually. Do you mean to tell me that, the whole time, men have been ogling my booty, and I never noticed it?

[AshyPhoenix]

There's one particular JUBber that everyone fawns over whom I think is really quite homely.

[JohannBessler]

^You'll get a thousand comments, Ashy, wondering who it is.

I hope it's not who I think it is. The gentleman in question has a deflated ego, and I feel concern for him.

[JohannBessler]

When I go to the grocery or to the mall, I always park my car as far away from the door as possible.

Sometimes, this is a football field away.

[johaninsc]

[JohannBessler]

^There are people on JUB I worry about, Johan--some very fragile egos.

[CupidBoy]

I know who Ashy is talking about.

[AshyPhoenix]

I honestly didn't expect my comment to start drama. Sorry, guys.

[JohannBessler]

^There is a newscaster that everybody else fawns over, but I just don't see it, for the life of me.

He's not ugly, he's just not cute to me--that is, Anderson Cooper.

Speaking of Coopers--I remind myself of Sheldon Cooper, except he's much smarter.

[CupidBoy]

^There is a newscaster that everybody else fawns over, but I just don't see it, for the life of me.

He's not ugly, he's just not cute to me--that is, Anderson Cooper.

Speaking of Coopers--I remind myself of Sheldon Cooper, except he's much smarter.

I confess, back when I was on my extreme gym regimen I would just watch Anderson Cooper 360 dreamy eyed while using the elliptical machine. He got me in good shape.

[RazorzEdge88]

Ashy, your comments are hardly controversial. There are multiple posters here who are like that for me - I just don't see it. Doesn't mean I care that they're admired. I just happen to go for cubs and don't get the hubbub about certain types.

[loki81]

There's one particular JUBber that everyone fawns over whom I think is really quite homely.

not that it's the person you're talking about, but personally, I never understood the Cult of Elvin.

[Huntneo(PT)]

not that it's the person you're talking about, but personally, I never understood the Cult of Elvin.

not a cult.

Yeah--he and I were always going at (even though I generally liked him) because I was quite vocal about that. ^

[sixthson]

not that it's the person you're talking about, but personally, I never understood the Cult of Elvin.

As long as I have been at JUB, I think there has always been at least one person who got the attention of a few other guys and non-stop flirting began. It would take over the forums, in fact. Usually, they are young guys. I think some sought the attention, while others had it thrust upon them. Right now, the hottie-du-jour is Benderboy. Who it will be in 2 months is anyone's guess.
It matters not to me.

[refujiunderground]

yeah, there's many attractive guys on this forum however, when you see their personality on work at the boards, they become unattractive. they do it to themselves. it could be a character flaw or something. it's like you look good BUT your personality ain't all that. just because you're physically attractive or jerk off material doesn't exactly mean that you're hot. i think a guy becomes hot if his personality is hot.

there was a very attractive guy that i met once at my last job. dude really made my eyes wide. so anyways, him and me started talking and he was a COOL dude. when i say cool, i wouldn't mind hanging out with him at the bar to chill out. his personality made him HOT. you know what i'm saying? even another example, there was a guy who i saw yesterday. he was okay looking but his personality got my dick hard. i didn't know what to say to him but hey... he's someone who i'd sleep with or even date even though i'll admit, i'm dumbstruck at how i would connect with him. he's on okcupid though but i'm scared to message him. he might reject me.

[bankside]

Stop; you're all making me blush. There's only so much of me to go around. And if Ashy doesn't want a piece, well, I suppose that's all the more for the rest of you.

refuji, i know what you mean about that personality thing! If anyone is going to be v.v.good looking their personality also needs to be v.v. awesome. Not that I'm bragging.

[JohannBessler]

not that it's the person you're talking about, but personally, I never understood the Cult of Elvin.

I adored Elvin.

In my case, a whole lot of my adoration was his personality. It wasn't really a sexual thing.