Confess something that might surprise others or damage your reputation on JUB - 2012

[RazorzEdge88]

I didn't tip the guys who delivered my mattress this morning.

I had a $20 in my pocket for it, and I know it's the usual convention, but fuck... they were here for maybe 5 minutes, tops. they weren't removing the old mattress, they had to walk up maybe 5 steps, and I had everything already moved and setup so they could just drop it off in my bedroom and go.

That's convention? Well shit, there are some guys out there who delivered/assembled a big-ass sectional for me that probably hate me right about now. I really need to read a tipping guide.

[loki81]

That's convention? Well shit, there are some guys out there who delivered/assembled a big-ass sectional for me that probably hate me right about now. I really need to read a tipping guide.

it's customary... I'd usually go $10/person plus $5 per flight of stairs.

[tombastep]

I agree.

Why would I care if Benderboy's pics are fake? I'm a whole lot more interested in what he has to say than what he looks like (with all due respect to you Seghers)

I don't know BB and not saying this about him.

But if someone is willing to lie about their appearance who is to say that what they're posting is truth? If someone feels the need to lie about their appearance, then they might be putting up a facade with their words too. Even if the words are true, I would have a hard time with their posts holding any weight because they felt the need to deceive.

[RazorzEdge88]

Johann, don't be dense. If someone uses fake pics, that means they're probably using someone else's pics, without their knowledge, on a gay porn forum.

[tombastep]

Yeah and that too.

[G-Lexington]

Well, words are harder to fake. Maybe I can say I'm a world famous model when I actually work in the grocery store, but that's just deception on the same level as the fake pictures. If people are attracted to those types of words, then it's pretty much on the same level as being attracted to the fake photo. But it seems what most people latch onto is the personality built up over a lot of posts. The interaction with themselves and other JUBbers, how they respond to things, their way of telling anecdotes, their opinions, their witticisms, their advice. And that's not exactly an easy thing to fake. I guess somebody could go online and look for witty epigrams to post, or take things straight from "So You Want to Flirt Online 101". But I doubt anybody is doing that. It's a hell of a lot more work than "finding a photo online and claiming it's you".

Lex

[borg69unimatrix]

This will probably get me into trouble with some people, and being fully aware that I could be wrong - I think benderboy's pics are fake.
I've already told Seth that if I'm wrong I will gladly apologize to him and all of j.u.b, but for now, I stand by it.

Which ones are in question?

The shaggy brown haired ones, or the black haired ones?

[sixthson]

Does JUB have an official position on posting fake pics? How do the powers-that-be feel about someone publicly exposing another JUBber for said photos?

[JohannBessler]

Not here to stir the pot as it's settling down, but this comment could've been cut-and-pasted from any of the previous "JUBber with fake photo" tempests of the past. Whenever a JUBber's photos are called into question, there are others who stand up and say that the JUBber isn't just a pretty face but a wonderful human being whose beauty is far deeper than the skin, and anyone who would dare question the validity of his photos is an ugly human being (usually inside and out) out to cause trouble. And sometimes the photos DID prove to be phony...after which those that defended him generally continued to do so. "So what if they're fake? I care about him as a person, not some pretty face."


Lex

I would have to make one exception.

I don't know if you remember the JUBber who called himself Misfit, but he posted some fake pictures, was outed, etc. I would make an exception for him, because he came with a lot of emotional baggage--a lot of drama that was directly connected to the pictures themselves.

He came and went like a hurricane, and caused a rift that left a fissure through the whole forum.

But as for the rest: I don't care if their pics are fake.

I do get the feeling that the picture in RazorzEdge's avatar isn't really him.

- - - Updated - - -

Johann, don't be dense. If someone uses fake pics, that means they're probably using someone else's pics, without their knowledge, on a gay porn forum.

You have a formidable point, Razors. I hadn't thought of that.

[AshyPhoenix]

I spend half an hour doing my hair and makeup in the morning, and I don't know if I see the point. I still feel just as ugly as I did before.

[Ram]

I like One Direction.

[Lefty]

I prefer adults..

Noel Gallagher is good damn good

[refujiunderground]

but anyways.... i came out to my father early this morning and i wasn't in my right mind when i did it. it was like i was high again. it really doesn't matter though. i came out to him and i wasn't kicked out the house. he didn't even on me either. it was 4 in the morning anyway. from what i can remember and as i said, i wasn't in my right mind, he took it a whole lot better than my mother did. my mom was disappointed. my father seemed like he didn't give a fuck. either he brushed it off or he's going to use this to diss the shit out of my mother knowing how his sociopathic, manipulative ass is.

that still doesn't change my opinion about him though. dude is crazy and i think i made a mistake telling him. it just makes me feel a bit more worried to what he's up to if he didn't spaz out on me yet.

[G-Lexington]

But you're past that hurdle now, so congratulations. On to the next.

Lex

[refujiunderground]

But you're past that hurdle now, so congratulations. On to the next.

Lex

what bothers me the most about the whole thing was it was done against my will and wasn't fully aware of what i had just done. i wasn't even aware of who i was, where i was, and what was going on exactly. even the way i woke up my father out of his sleep was crazy because i had my hands all over him trying to get him up. that's how fucked up i was. it was like i lost complete control of my body and my mind like i was being controlled. i didn't want to come out to him yet BUT i did.

[reone]

I didn't tip the guys who delivered my mattress this morning.

I had a $20 in my pocket for it, and I know it's the usual convention, but fuck... they were here for maybe 5 minutes, tops. they weren't removing the old mattress, they had to walk up maybe 5 steps, and I had everything already moved and setup so they could just drop it off in my bedroom and go.

I'm so confused with tipping. Sometimes I feel like I should in situations where people usually don't. For instance, I used to go to a tire place about once a month or so and get them to check my tire pressure. Would people tip for that? The guys were always super nice and it only took them a minute or so.

I actually just go to the gas station now and do it myself now partially so I don't have to worry about it -__- and also because now I live in the city and people aren't as friendly as they are farther south.

I would have never thought to tip mattress movers (or whatever their respective title may be).

My sister was telling me that she tipped the woman that did her nails yesterday and I can't say that I would have ever thought to tip someone that does nails.

I wish companies would just pay their employees a real wage so it wouldn't be something that consumers had to even worry about. I'm a very generous tipper at restaurants because I used to work around food, but with other positions I'm never really sure when it's 'expected'.

[refujiunderground]

cannot wait to get out of here. both of my parents get on my nerves. my mom is busy complaining about how she's stressed out since she married my father almost 30 yeasr ago and etc BUT yet she isn't doing anything to improve her situation and making a shitload of excuses. my father is driving you crazy but you are driving yourself crazy too.

she also seems to be trying to drive me fucking crazy along with her by stressing me out over small things. i chose to be inside my room because i want to be alone and on the computer. wtf. dayum, she wants me to be just as miserable and stressed out as she is. i quit my job because i saw myself being like her, all miserable, angry, depressed and acting all fucking hopeless. here, i am trying to go about my way or figure myself out and her ass is ready to fly off the handle and push me into where she's going. it's not my fault that you're in this rut. you chose that life. I WILL NOT GO THROUGH THE SAME SHIT THAT YOU OR MY FATHER GOT YOURSELVES INTO. I KNOW BETTER. i most definitely am not going to run out and get any old job and put myself in the same boat just for you to get off my fucking case. NOPE, not going to happen this time. you tried it in high school and 2005 but naw, not going to happen. i'm listening to myself this time.

[G-Lexington]

I prefer adults..

Noel Gallagher is good damn good

Noel is about the last person I think of when the topic is "adults".

what bothers me the most about the whole thing was it was done against my will and wasn't fully aware of what i had just done. i wasn't even aware of who i was, where i was, and what was going on exactly. even the way i woke up my father out of his sleep was crazy because i had my hands all over him trying to get him up. that's how fucked up i was. it was like i lost complete control of my body and my mind like i was being controlled. i didn't want to come out to him yet BUT i did.

Coming out is mainly something to get beyond. Whether you kick the door open, or watch it crumble around you, the fact remains that the closet is opened now. It may not have gone at all like you hoped, but you're on the other side of it now. He knows. You can move forward from that spot.

Lex

[eyeoftheshark]

Im gay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[refujiunderground]

Noel is about the last person I think of when the topic is "adults".



Coming out is mainly something to get beyond. Whether you kick the door open, or watch it crumble around you, the fact remains that the closet is opened now. It may not have gone at all like you hoped, but you're on the other side of it now. He knows. You can move forward from that spot.

Lex

you're right. he knows and she knows. now it's time for my brother.

and i just had a talk with my mom. she still doesn't sound too happy about me being gay and understandably she's pissed i don't have a job. in other words, i think she's mad that i'm not doing exactly what she WANTS me to do. i know i have to go out and make it on my own and that's what she wants and i want the same thing too of course.

whenever she would mention it, she would say so in a way which was like a swipe implying that something was wrong with me or that i screwed up. personally, i think she's mad with me about it.

[maxpowr9]

My roomie just made her famous dip which will cause me to gain like 10 lbs if there is any leftovers its so fattening It's guacamole, sour cream, salsa and shredded cheddar cheese.

[72-Jay]

One of the FM radio stations here had a HD-2 channel called 'Pride Radio' , played plenty of good music...
...the key word is had , it went away a couple months ago must admit I kinda miss it...

[refujiunderground]

i like to play chess BUT i have like a 4 win, 700 loses record which actually discourages me from playing. i hate losing in games. it gets me heated. i have several chess books laying around the house but i never took time to pick one up and study the moves and lay outs.

btw, i actually beat my computer just now at a chess match. usually, it's my computer whipping my ass. hopefully, this is a start of a new beginning for me in this game where i actually can win more than once or at least twice in a row.

[JP.]

Why oh Why I found comedy at porn site!?

http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=ZiXAK-J859-

[CopyX19]

uhhhhhh, i pull my hair out when I get nervous? Nothing crazy lol, i never bald

[CopyX19]

I like One Direction.

Better than Justin Beiber lol. Hes in the new NBA 2K game as a serious character lol. "Swaggy" - His twitter quote over it.

[RonR18]

I never get sick, and I'm feeling weird because of it...as though I might really be an alien.

[Seghers]

I don't know BB and not saying this about him.

But if someone is willing to lie about their appearance who is to say that what they're posting is truth? If someone feels the need to lie about their appearance, then they might be putting up a facade with their words too. Even if the words are true, I would have a hard time with their posts holding any weight because they felt the need to deceive.

Update: so far 3 users have sent me pm's and 4 users have sent me comments saying how they've also suspected bb to be fake.

For those of you that say you don't care whether or not the pics aren't him, would you also not care if someone used your (face) pictures on some other forum?

[wilbur33]

bitch...suck my dick.

See? You're drunk and now you're flirting with me.

Oh, wait. You might like that.

And the Pope might be Catholic.

[loki81]

I pretended to be a clueless straight guy in Macy's today.

I had to return the sheets I bought yesterday... I joked about how my girlfriend hated them and I bought the wrong sizes.

in truth, I got home and read fucking terrible reviews about them online, but I didn't want to have to argue the point with the saleslady and "stupid straight guy bought the wrong sized sheets" makes for a better story.

[tombastep]

Update: so far 3 users have sent me pm's and 4 users have sent me comments saying how they've also suspected bb to be fake.

For those of you that say you don't care whether or not the pics aren't him, would you also not care if someone used your (face) pictures on some other forum?

Just to state, I am not stating that I don't care that someone is fake. I am saying I am not making that comment about him because I don't know for sure and until then I am not going to make my judgment. But of course I have a problem with anyone who goes around pretending to be someone else and using some strangers picture.

[RazorzEdge88]

So in other words, CupidBoy, you don't care if someone out there has their pics being stolen.

Very scrupulous.

[borg69unimatrix]

Update: so far 3 users have sent me pm's and 4 users have sent me comments saying how they've also suspected bb to be fake.

For those of you that say you don't care whether or not the pics aren't him, would you also not care if someone used your (face) pictures on some other forum?

I hate to admit it, but this is the place to do it...

I wish I was hot enough someone would WANT to steal my pic.



... but I DO think pic stealing someone else's pic and pretending it's them is unscrupulous, whomever does it.

[KaraBulut]

I like One Direction.

It's a good thing you already have a reputation that could not be further damaged.

^
that post is less than ten chracters

[alister]

I hate to admit it, but this is the place to do it...

I wish I was hot enough someone would WANT to steal my pic.



... but I DO think pic stealing someone else's pic and pretending it's them is unscrupulous, whomever does it.

Actually no, this is the damage your own reputation thread, not the damage someone else's reputation thread.

I always like these. I'm going to make accusations about you posts, with no proof, but I demand you prove yourself innocent.

Segher has already taken his accusations to Corny. I think that is were it should have been left. Corny has sorted these out in the past when there was any proof found.

[loki81]

tbh, unless they're spamming the "post pictures of yourself" thread or developing an Elvin-esque following based on their purported hotness, I couldn't care less about whether or not people are actually who their picture says they are.

I myself am not the picture in my avatar I actually used to use my real face picture, but stopped after some RL drama when someone "accidentally" found my JUB profile and read every single post I'd ever made.

[G-Lexington]

Update: so far 3 users have sent me pm's and 4 users have sent me comments saying how they've also suspected bb to be fake.

For those of you that say you don't care whether or not the pics aren't him, would you also not care if someone used your (face) pictures on some other forum?

If anyone thinks they can get laid, or hired, or popular using photos of my face, my body, or my ass...by all means, go for it.

And frankly, seg, you're coming off REALLY poorly in this thread the last few days.

Lex

[G-Lexington]

you're right. he knows and she knows. now it's time for my brother.

and i just had a talk with my mom. she still doesn't sound too happy about me being gay and understandably she's pissed i don't have a job. in other words, i think she's mad that i'm not doing exactly what she WANTS me to do. i know i have to go out and make it on my own and that's what she wants and i want the same thing too of course.

whenever she would mention it, she would say so in a way which was like a swipe implying that something was wrong with me or that i screwed up. personally, i think she's mad with me about it.

Well, again, she's still getting used to the idea...and, presumably, she's a bit more sheltered about these things than you are. Go get that job, and go live your kick ass life, and I doubt it'll be any problem at all.

Why oh Why I found comedy at porn site!?

http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=ZiXAK-J859-

I was watching some clip on xtube once. It was two guys having sex in a bedroom near a window, doggy style. At one point, one of them - the top? - sort of stops and looks at something out the window. Then the other guy looks out the window. Then they both stop and sort of walk on their knees on the bed over to the window, and look out of it for about 30 seconds. Then they get back into position and continue fucking.

There was no sound in the clip, so I couldn't tell what was going on. But I liked to think their neighbor walked by.

"Well, hello, Jacob and Sam!"
"Hi, Mrs Windermere!"
"What are you up to this fine morning?"
"Well, I was just fucking Sam..."
"I could see that! I see Sam has his dog collar on - is that new?"
"Yes, ma'am! We picked it up at bondage shop just last night."
"Well, it certainly suits you. It brings out the green in your eyes."
"Thank you, Mrs Windermere!"
"Well, I don't want to keep you boys. You just get back to your fucking."
"Thank you, Mrs Windermere. Tell Mr Windermere we said hello!"

Lex

[CupidBoy]

I confess that Lex never ceases to amaze me with his level headed wit.

[borg69unimatrix]

If anyone thinks they can get laid, or hired, or popular using photos of my face, my body, or my ass...by all means, go for it.

And frankly, seg, you're coming off REALLY poorly in this thread the last few days.

Lex

I can see where Seghers would be angry... I actually HAVE found Segher's pic's posted on Tumblr sites without his permission. I told him about the ones I saw, and there was nothing he could do to have them removed.

The bottom line is, No One likes being lied to, stolen from, violated, or deceived. Which is essentially what pic stealing is.

I don't see Segher's coming across any worse then anyone else that posts their daily dose of "Dear Diary" drama in here.
I welcome the change of pace. It's about time this thread was used for what it was meant for.

[RazorzEdge88]

If anyone thinks they can get laid, or hired, or popular using photos of my face, my body, or my ass...by all means, go for it.

And frankly, seg, you're coming off REALLY poorly in this thread the last few days.

Lex

He's coming off as someone with no tolerance for bullshit, which is a good quality.

Thinking that nobody else should mind their photos being stolen just because you don't mind is the height of arrogance.

[JohannBessler]

For those of you that say you don't care whether or not the pics aren't him, would you also not care if someone used your (face) pictures on some other forum?

I can see this point of view, Seghers, but one must realize that the instant one puts his own picture on the Internet--anywhere--it's out there forever. This is why no current pictures of me exist anywhere in Cyberspace.

The idea of somebody "outing" somebody else on the Internet for having fake pictures in their profile seems Orwellian to me.

[RazorzEdge88]

The idea of just letting people pose as other people on the internet, willy-nilly, seems Orwellian to me.

Say goodbye to your privacy and personal property rights. This is the information age. Any douchebag with low self-esteem is now allowed to rip off your photos and use them however they want.

[refujiunderground]

i'm on tumblr looking at pics of black men and it bothers me that almost all of the pics i'm seeing, the guys have tons of tattoos on their bodies. some of their bodies are completely littered with ink. i don't think that's cool. it's one thing if it's one, two and three tattoos, it's cool BUT it's a completely different story if you have your entire chest, complete arm, entire back, and etc covered with tattoos. i think it's disgusting. how much tattoos can you get?

i also hate that stupid ass trend where you have other black men trying to copy off lil wayne with the 101 tattoos all over the body. they have tats on their face, all over their front part of their body and their back. that travis barker shit was NEVER cool to begin with so i don't get why anybody would copy off of him to begin with or lil wayne's clownish ass either. WTF, man? that shit ain't cute and it's NOT cool. once you're inked, you're inked for life. i don't think i would get a tattoo though. a lip piercing or an ear piercing yes BUT tattoo where that shit stays forever? NOPE.

[Huntneo(PT)]

^ totally feel you on just about everything you just said. And Lil' Wayne has always looked disgusting to me.

[JohannBessler]

i'm on tumblr looking at pics of black men and it bothers me that almost all of the pics i'm seeing, the guys have tons of tattoos on their bodies. some of their bodies are completely littered with ink. i don't think that's cool. it's one thing if it's one, two and three tattoos, it's cool BUT it's a completely different story if you have your entire chest, complete arm, entire back, and etc covered with tattoos. i think it's disgusting. how much tattoos can you get?

i also hate that stupid ass trend where you have other black men trying to copy off lil wayne with the 101 tattoos all over the body. they have tats on their face, all over their front part of their body and their back. that travis barker shit was NEVER cool to begin with so i don't get why anybody would copy off of him to begin with or lil wayne's clownish ass either. WTF, man? that shit ain't cute and it's NOT cool. once you're inked, you're inked for life. i don't think i would get a tattoo though. a lip piercing or an ear piercing yes BUT tattoo where that shit stays forever? NOPE.

White and Latino kids do it, too. In fact, here in Reno, it's all the rage.

I think they're making a huge mistake. Later on in life, the tattoos begin to sag along with the skin and start to look fugly.

[loveguys72]

One the other hand, it's their bodies and they may do with them as they choose. I personally don't find it attractive.

[JohannBessler]

The idea of just letting people pose as other people on the internet, willy-nilly, seems Orwellian to me.

Say goodbye to your privacy and personal property rights. This is the information age. Any douchebag with low self-esteem is now allowed to rip off your photos and use them however they want.

I see your point, RazorsEdge, but it's like that everywhere on Cyberspace. Cyberspace is the most dangerous country on the planet. With this in mind, I have some final thoughts:

1. I only care about what a JUBber has to say, not what he looks like.

2. The Internet is the Wild Wild West. Carry your gun always and:
*Don't download anything, unless you're willing to take the risk that the file might have a virus.
*Don't put your pictures on the 'net, unless you're willing to take the risk that they might be stolen.

3. I haven't always been the best of friends to all of the Moderators. That being said,I don't think it should be their responsibility to make sure each JUBber's pics are genuine.

4. The Misfit episode was a Category 5 hurricane. I stood right in the middle of that hurricane, which just about destroyed JUB. I won't do it again, so these are my final words.

5. I don't agree with you this time, RazorzEdge, but I continue to hold the utmost respect for you.

6. For everybody else: reread #2, and copy it 100 times.

[JohannBessler]

^RazorzEdge, on a related note, I thought I'd share something interesting with you about the "unsafe-ness" of the Internet.

A few days ago, JUB went down. When I logged on, all it would say is "It works!". I'd had a passing thought,"Did I get banned for some reason?", so I decided to try to log on through an anonymous proxy.

JUB still didn't work, so I figured,"They're having a server issue", and forgot about it.

On a whim, I thought I'd do a port check. Guess what? That anonymous proxy left my SSH port wide open for any hacker to invade at will. And here I am, typing on Linux, the absolute safest of all the OSes.

The moral of the story is that one cannot be too careful on the Internet. Ever.

Even on Ubuntu Linux, I don't trust it enough to do my banking online. Instead, I boot up PuppyLinux on a Live CD that's not writable. This makes it absolutely unhackable.

You can never be too careful.

[refujiunderground]

^ totally feel you on just about everything you just said. And Lil' Wayne has always looked disgusting to me.

yeah, wayne looks terrible. at one point, dude actually sort of handsome around the carter 1 to carter 2. that carter 2 album cover is sexy but after that, dude fucked himself up. must have been the drugs.

White and Latino kids do it, too. In fact, here in Reno, it's all the rage.

I think they're making a huge mistake. Later on in life, the tattoos begin to sag along with the skin and start to look fugly.

yeah, it was very popular with white and latino guys before it started being cool with black guys. it was NEVER hot or cool. it used to irk me seeing travis barker without a shirt back then. being the skinny guy he is, it would make me cringe to think of what it must have felt like for him to get those tattoos especially the cadillac one right on his chest. that looked like it really hurt.

i know that there's different cultures where body tats are the norm and there's a reason behind why they do it. that's something different altogether but i never got the point with all these guys think they're cool looking like tyga, lil wayne, machine gun kelly, maino, travis barker and etc with those HORRIBLE tattoos. i think the worst ones have to be between wayne, tyga, travis barker and machine gun kelly. machine gun kelly looks really stupid with that highway 69 on his chest.