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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    "Tom's First Time" with Dawson bottoming again. In the final scene Dawson was cantilevered so far off the bed, it was amazing Tom's weight could keep him from falling out. Not a bad scene, although I had hoped for more enthusiasm from Tom. Maybe that would be inappropriate for a 'first time'.

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    I don't know why everyone's so frothed-up about condomless sex and cum eating. If the scene isn't hot (if the quality of guys isn't as good as we are accustomed to, if the quality of the performances has gone downhill) no amount of bodily fluids spurting all over is going to make it a good scene.

    And I do agree with Phunk that the lack of condoms seems to have negatively affected the quality of models. And I'd rather not see a mouth shot, than to see a model flinch away from one.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Asenath View Post
    I don't know why everyone's so frothed-up about condomless sex and cum eating. If the scene isn't hot (if the quality of guys isn't as good as we are accustomed to, if the quality of the performances has gone downhill) no amount of bodily fluids spurting all over is going to make it a good scene.

    And I do agree with Phunk that the lack of condoms seems to have negatively affected the quality of models. And I'd rather not see a mouth shot, than to see a model flinch away from one.
    Im 100% on Asenaths side on this. If the scene sucks ass or it comes off forced and fake as Pamela Andersons titties and the models are not attractive at all, then can someone please explain to me how in the world does someone not wearing a peice of rubber make the scene all of a sudden amazing and hot? Straight/Bi/Gay porn if the scene/models suck the condom doesnt even matter at that point in the game.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by bdotb81 View Post
    In the past 12 months, we've had guys like Kent, the return of Cameron, Jon, Jarrett, Sean, Rudy, Russ, Reece, Robbie, Jackson, Chandler and ....Jordan.

    And even though he was strictly ACS, Ripley.

    That's a decrease in quality?!?
    If you look at the overall attractiveness of the Monday freshmen, in comparison to last year's comparable freshmen -- yes. Clearly there has been a decline. Also, a change in the kind of guys showing up. They're from the low end of the pro-am porn pool, like Chaos Men.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    I'm a little bit late on this, but thanks SB for the trip through some of the hottest guys who have been on the site in the recent past. I appreciate your time!

    What I'd like to see on CF and CFSelect is perhaps dictated by my gender. I'd like to see more kissing throughout the scene (my husband and I don't just move from kissing to oral to fucking following some unwritten formula) to make it seem more real. I know it's porn, but come on!

    I'd also like to see more slow, sensual scenes - not to take over the site, but as part of a variety from hot, slamming, sweaty sex to softer, bodies sliding together with lots of touching.

    Cum-licking is also a huge turn-on. Not waiting for your partner to jerk off into your mouth but like one of my favorite scenes with Dave licking and swallowing Travis' cum off of his abs. It seemed spontaneous and natural. As others have said, only if the models are into it and make it look natural.

    Always, above everything else, what I want to see is models who appear to be into each other and into what they're doing, even if they go home to their girlfriends after they're done.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by bdotb81 View Post
    The sex isn't as pleasurable when you are wearing a condom or having one enter you. If the sex is less pleasurable, then the participants engaging in the sex act aren't going to be into it as much.

    I know Conner is one of those guys that really hates condoms over on on CF. Watch him in a scene where he has to wear one vs. him not having to wear one. He is more engaged in the whole scenario.

    Plus, when you are shooting porn for hours, condoms can cause you to lose sensation which can cause the guys to lose their erection.

    A condom can cause the bottom to dry up and can make sex painful.

    Tasting someone's dick after they've had a condom on it, doesn't taste so good.
    CF has had condom scenes since 04', and I can say they have produced some pretty hot stuff WITH a condom on. A good majority of the time I never even acknowledged the condom in the first place cause the action was good. So I dont see any of your points (porn-wise) As for Connor, he can stay over at ACS. With all of his fake "Oh My God That Feels So Good", and sticking it in someones ass and shuddering like its his first time with all the moaning and groaning, no amount of bb could get me off to watching him. Hes like Gabe, his ACS stuff is hot, but the ACM is horrible.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by bdotb81 View Post
    I'll agree, it is not their best new lineup of Freshmen, but I think it is way to early to be saying the quality has decreased. If it was to continue over a sustained period (like 3 months), then I might start crying foul.
    I wonder if this is similar to the way that the current season of Saturday Night Live is never as good as a legendary previous season of Saturday Night Live. People said it in the 80s, and in the early 90s, and in the late 90s, and in the 00's, etc. But if you go back and watch old seasons of SNL, there were actually a lot of really bad sketches that your memory has glossed over.

    For example, we often wax nostalgic about the glory days of CF. Remember 2006? It was the year that brought us TJ, Brent, Ben, Noah, and Trevor. It certainly seems like a bumper crop, but that's because nobody really remembers Blake, Toby, Adrian, Kirk, and Carter from that year.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by yankeesfan View Post
    What I'd like to see on CF and CFSelect is perhaps dictated by my gender. I'd like to see more kissing throughout the scene (my husband and I don't just move from kissing to oral to fucking following some unwritten formula) to make it seem more real. I know it's porn, but come on!
    It's not just your gender, I find kissing a HUGE turn on, especially when it makes the guys push their envelope even further. And with CF providing gay sex education for straight guys, I think that should be on top of the curriculum.

    I'd also like to see more slow, sensual scenes - not to take over the site, but as part of a variety from hot, slamming, sweaty sex to softer, bodies sliding together with lots of touching.
    During the times of Derek, TJ and Ben, there used to be more seductive scenes both with first-timers as well as among the more seasoned models. I remember a scene where Ben and TJ together seduced one of the newbies taking off his clothes and worshiping his body top to bottom. Muscle and foot worship were big on the agenda and it never failed to make the scene even hotter.

    Considering that Pete was one of those that improved his performance, I am quite disappointed they don't see it as a priority in many of their first-timer scenes. And speaking of Derek, whatever happened to the unscripted scenes when one of the models would take charge and play hard for the camera?

    Cum-licking is also a huge turn-on. Not waiting for your partner to jerk off into your mouth but like one of my favorite scenes with Dave licking and swallowing Travis' cum off of his abs. It seemed spontaneous and natural. As others have said, only if the models are into it and make it look natural.
    I can't really recall many CF models doing that other than having it sprayed into their mouths but Connor was one of the few who would do that - at least he did on the farm. (I mentioned that scene earlier... )

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post

    I can't really recall many CF models doing that other than having it sprayed into their mouths but Connor was one of the few who would do that - at least he did on the farm. (I mentioned that scene earlier... )
    Sadly, I can't remember many others either. Actually, I think only one other - Dawson and Austin.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Asenath View Post
    I don't know why everyone's so frothed-up about condomless sex and cum eating. If the scene isn't hot (if the quality of guys isn't
    Asenath, m'lady, you do know how to turn a phrase.

    As for the controversy, I think a good mix of all is best. For example, it would be tiresome to see cum-eating all the time, but it would tragic to never see it.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by yankeesfan View Post
    Sadly, I can't remember many others either. Actually, I think only one other - Dawson and Austin.
    Trey, maybe. He's not shy swallowing cum.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Cruncher665 View Post
    Asenath, m'lady, you do know how to turn a phrase.
    I am happy to amuse.

    And since I went on a tear about what I don't want to see, I'd be happy to join suit and list the things I do want to see. . .

    1. More face-to-face positions, less crab-walking & reverse cowgirl.

    2. A slower build from introduction to full sex. Bring back the oral only updates - I'd be happy with 2 high quality freshmen a month, and 2 sexy blowjob/fingerfucking/foreplay kind of scenes.

    3. Put the condoms back on.

    4. More interaction between the guys - kissing, maybe a little talking (but not Empire State kind of talking. Okay, maybe a LITTLE of that. I kind of miss STFU Cameron's nonsense, now that he's gotten sexy.), a little post-coital snuggling or fun in the bathtub.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Asenath View Post
    a little post-coital snuggling or fun in the bathtub.
    Definitely. The scenes where the guys finish fucking and then one of them jumps up and says "okay, let's hit the showers!" don't do anything for me.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    ^And today Dawson and Tom shook hands at the end of their shower! I mean, come on.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by bdotb81 View Post
    You'll probably argue there is some risk. Of course there is.
    I was thinking more along the lines that he was afraid he was setting a bad example.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Seems like seancodys decision to start including bareback sex on his site has reignited the debate on this thread. I'm pretty agnostic on the issue to be honest, but I feel like if something's not broken then there's no need to fix it. I've watched a decent amount of porn in my life and have seen great scenes where a condom was used and lousy scenes where it wasn't (and vice versa). I can't and won't deny that there is a slight enhancement of the fantasy element in watching bareback, but I have never thought to myself that a scene would have been more successful if only the condom wasn't there.

    For my own two cents on the issue of recruitment and/or retention of models when a site goes bareback. It is my personal opinion that the models on sites that use condoms are generally much better looking than the sites that are bareback. I've made this comparison before but I think it's worth repeating. chaosmen and activeduty are among the more successful gay porn sites today and each took dramatically different approaches to the issue of condoms a handful of years ago. CM was an all condom site until its proprietor Bryan decided to go "raw". AD on the other hand was a bareback site until it's proprietor Dink took exactly the opposite course and decided to go "safe". Now opinions on any models "hotness" is very subjective of course, but in my own assessment the quality of the models hired on CM since the elimination of condoms has declined dramatically (as has the actual sex), while the quality of the models hired on AD since the inclusion of condoms has risen dramatically.

    As far as CF is concerned, without revealing sources and confidences I can tell you all, for a fact, that I know 2 models (fan favorites btw) who left because of the incremental introduction of bareback that began on ACS. So for those who say they don't think bareback has had an effect on a models retention, sorry but you're wrong, it has. Outside of the 2 models who I know of I have a suspicion on some others, Joel and Taylor come immediately to mind (Taylor specifically since somebody purporting to be him posted a on a porn blog saying as much). I disagree with Phunk on Dru though, I don't think the exclusion of condoms is the reason why he's not currently on the site.

    So for those who are applauding SC going bareback and hoping that Corbin follows suit, as the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for because if a year from now you find yourself thinking "man the models on SC arent anywhere as hot as they used to be" there may be a reason.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    ^^^^Hence why we love you CaptainMellow!!!

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Well I question any internet porn site when it comes to "testing" their models. I highly doubt any of these sites have medical personal performing any of these test. It just a bunch of drug store bought hiv test kits and cotton swabs. N the way the CF stable interacts it only is going to take one false negative result.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    CF Office tweeted that they spend $10K a month on full-panel STD tests. I can't fault them for that, at least.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Yeah lets all believe a tweet. Lets see the health/medical plan.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    doublepost

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Here's the thing - it's not like they're just having sex, and the camera moves around them. Porn is a stop-and-start process, with breaks between the different "acts" of the performance. If the erection situation flags at one point or another, just taking the condom off isn't the remedy for it.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMellow View Post
    For my own two cents on the issue of recruitment and/or retention of models when a site goes bareback. It is my personal opinion that the models on sites that use condoms are generally much better looking than the sites that are bareback. I've made this comparison before but I think it's worth repeating. chaosmen and activeduty are among the more successful gay porn sites today and each took dramatically different approaches to the issue of condoms a handful of years ago. CM was an all condom site until its proprietor Bryan decided to go "raw". AD on the other hand was a bareback site until it's proprietor Dink took exactly the opposite course and decided to go "safe". Now opinions on any models "hotness" is very subjective of course, but in my own assessment the quality of the models hired on CM since the elimination of condoms has declined dramatically (as has the actual sex), while the quality of the models hired on AD since the inclusion of condoms has risen dramatically.
    I must object here, I think it was more the change of management and direction of AD and Amateur Straight Guys (which I believe was taken over by AD at some point) that led to more of a decline in quality on both sides. Despite a couple of goodies in-between, AD has become more timid and stale in some parts. As for CM, I blame Bryan's too careful direction. He has some models that have the potential but he's limiting himself doing the same scene over and over again.

    As said, I don't mind condoms as long as we see when it's put on, which CF does include in their videos, but I agree the models' performances improve when they get the full sensation when going bare - it's a devil's circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwenMeany View Post
    And today Dawson and Tom shook hands at the end of their shower! I mean, come on.
    I thought that was totally weird as well....just moments before Tom had Dawson sitting on his face...and then a handshake

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Funny how condoms have been industry standard in gay porn for better than 20 years, but we don't hear that sort of excuse.

    ETA: I'm kind of done with this topic. CF has done tons of hot safer-sex scenes, and doing it without a condom isn't going to make a dud scene magically hot.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    I agree, Asenath.
    So - may I politely suggest that we all move on from this subject and steer the thread in another direction? Please?

    We haven't played Guess That Update in quite a while. Shall we?

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by LumiereNocturne View Post
    I agree, Asenath.
    So - may I politely suggest that we all move on from this subject and steer the thread in another direction? Please?

    We haven't played Guess That Update in quite a while. Shall we?
    Wow we really havent played that in while. Ok yall know the rules, you allowed either 3 guesses for which model you think will appear today OR 2 guesses on whose going to get paired with who.

    AWP - Kent, Cain, Travis

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirakell View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OwenMeany View Post
    ^And today Dawson and Tom shook hands at the end of their shower! I mean, come on.
    I thought that was totally weird as well....just moments before Tom had Dawson sitting on his face...and then a handshake
    Maybe in the future Dawson could hand Tom his check while he's shaking his hand.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Cameron,Zeb or Sean-hopefully Cameron bottoming!

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    This weekend's CFSelect:

    I'm not much of a fan of threesomes, but I still want to know who they are

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    ^Agree, don't love the threesomes. And I'm not good at guessing torsos.

    Cameron and supposedly engaged couple Chase and Olivia, with Connor coming in to fuck Olivia at the end. It's all staged and an obvious put-on, but:

    I have definitely come around to thinking that Cameron is sexy as hell.

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    I'd say they were L-R Kent, Jon & Travis!

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    ^sounds like a major fake moan-a-thon (yawn)

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    Quote Originally Posted by casperfan View Post
    I'd say they were L-R Kent, Jon & Travis!
    I like kent. I like Jon. Don't like Travis. Its like getting a pair of cherries at the slots and then a lemon.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Regarding Chase (Shawn) and Olivia, I'm not quite sold on them being a couple or of Chase being actually ĘstraightĘ.

    You see, in this last bi video, there doesn't seem to be any interaction of Chase with Olivia (Olivia does finger him tho).

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeti8080 View Post
    This weekend's CFSelect:

    I'm not much of a fan of threesomes, but I still want to know who they are
    I would say Sean, Jon [love that he's grown out the trail] and Travis.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    The Cam/Chase/Olivia/Connor scene was pretty interesting and sometimes hot - also long, about 33 minutes. The first part was Chaseand Olivia taking turns with Cam, the second part was Cam fucking Chase with both of them coming, and the last ten minutes were Connor and Olivia fucking while Chase, still covered in Cameron's cum, was beating off and coming a second time in the background.

    Too bad more people don't watch ACS, I think our sexual identity diagnosticians would have a great time with this one, the main question being whether Cam and Chase were more into each other than either was into Olivia.

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    I ONLY like scenes that end in cum eating.Up until a year ago CF had very frequent cum eating scenes. During this past year that number has dropped off VERY dramatically. That alone is the reason I have not resubscribed to CF, who used to have the most consistently hot gay porn on this side of the Atlantic. The proliferation of condom free is great but it seems to be at the cost of cum eating hotness.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    This guy whose pic is in the cell phone pics thread in the straight and bisexual forum reminds me of Kent. Could this be him in younger days?
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Kent.jpg  

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyRory View Post
    The Cam/Chase/Olivia/Connor scene was pretty interesting and sometimes hot - also long, about 33 minutes. The first part was Chaseand Olivia taking turns with Cam, the second part was Cam fucking Chase with both of them coming, and the last ten minutes were Connor and Olivia fucking while Chase, still covered in Cameron's cum, was beating off and coming a second time in the background.
    I thought it was a great scene and, true or not, thinking of Chase and Olivia as a couple playing with a third was hot. One of my favorite bits was Chase licking Cameron's balls while Olivia was riding Cameron. I do have to say that Cameron as a performer has grown on me a lot since his early days.

    Connor jumping in made me think about what was going on behind the scene. Was his jumping in planned? He was already hard when he jumped in and I wonder how often the guys filming get hard. Maybe they're inured to all of the sex or thinking about getting the right shot and don't get hard as often as I think they would. If they do get hard, what do they do about it after the scene is over? This is what both fascinates and frustrates me - I want to know how things work and I can't tear CF apart like I did the alarm clocks and radios that I did when I was a child.

    ETA: I want to see Pete jump in with one of the guys!


    Quote Originally Posted by EasyRory View Post
    Too bad more people don't watch ACS, I think our sexual identity diagnosticians would have a great time with this one, the main question being whether Cam and Chase were more into each other than either was into Olivia.
    How much was scripted and how much was natural, I don't know, but I think you're right - this would be a good scene to debate. My vote is that they were at least as into each other as Olivia, maybe more.

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    Dawson's interview is up at Men..of..Porn. I find it quite interesting.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    whatever hsppened to Connor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaredPad View Post
    Dawson's interview is up at Men..of..Porn. I find it quite interesting.
    Yes, very interesting. Both he and Connor are very articulate, and seem like genuinely nice guys.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Could this possibly be a sign that CF has decided to become more open and transparent than before?

    Also, according to Pete on Twitter, the CFS update involves DP. Probably Jon, right? [Assuming that really is him in the preview pic.]

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    Aww. Dawson 'ships Dawson/Lucas as hard as I 'ship Dawson/Lucas. Hehe.

  46. #196

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    Travis' first DP was hot -- he was such a greedy bottom and you got the feeling he got off on both the sensation and the naughtiness of having two cocks in his ass. Trey's Ethan and Dawson was pretty hot, too. However all the others seem forced and gimmicky.

    While I get a pretty strong read on my Gaydar from Jon, he seems like a reluctant bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swmjck View Post
    This guy whose pic is in the cell phone pics thread in the straight and bisexual forum reminds me of Kent. Could this be him in younger days?
    Possibly Kent in the 16-18 range. But he looks like a lot of other guys, too. Hottie, for sure. Love the vpl in his tightie whities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdotb81 View Post
    Hot damn! Chandler's scene was smoking hot over at ACS. Love how he looks so all American, but once he got naked he was a dirty sex pig! lol.
    Not only does he look a little bit like Dru in the face, he acts and talks like Dru.
    Quote Originally Posted by PhunkSpunk View Post
    While I get a pretty strong read on my Gaydar from Jon, he seems like a reluctant bottom.
    Jon has never looked like he really enjoyed being fucked.

    I see another favorite at cd has got a haircut, and ear "gear".


    And the pic with Dawon's interview was nice as well.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails cdTomFaulk04.JPG   cfDawsonInterview01.jpg  

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by yankeesfan View Post
    One of my favorite bits was Chase licking Cameron's balls while Olivia was riding Cameron. I do have to say that Cameron as a performer has grown on me a lot since his early days.

    How much was scripted and how much was natural, I don't know,
    Chase was getting banged in the head by Olivia's ass ... ...although he didn't seem to mind. I think in concept it was a better idea than it worked out to be for photographic purposes.

    Cameron's comment to Chase about "Get me started while Olivia takes off her bra," made me wonder. He had been making out with Olivia ... wouldn't that have gotten a straight guy started? Then Olivia's bra hit the floor with almost a crash! It must have been steel-padded. Just speaking for myself, I like her, including her boob size. [A friend accused me of liking girls who look like boys.]

    As you say, a very good scene!

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by yankeesfan View Post
    Connor jumping in made me think about what was going on behind the scene. Was his jumping in planned? He was already hard when he jumped in and I wonder how often the guys filming get hard. Maybe they're inured to all of the sex or thinking about getting the right shot and don't get hard as often as I think they would. If they do get hard, what do they do about it after the scene is over?
    According to Dawson's recent interview and some video descriptions it's a big no-no to do practice runs and scratching itches off camera to get the chemistry and intensity high. However, that doesn't prevent me from imagining Pete and the other crew mates having a test run with each other or any of the models... in my mind.

    The jumping in, though, I believe is simply a spontaneous change of direction. Connor must have mentioned each time how horny this scene was making him so the others told him to join them.

    This is what both fascinates and frustrates me - I want to know how things work and I can't tear CF apart like I did the alarm clocks and radios that I did when I was a child.
    I just had the image of a little girl with her hand down a boy's pants giving that questioning look.

    [quote]ETA: I want to see Pete jump in with one of the guys!
    Yes, bring Pete back on camera!

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