I recently came across an older video on a tube site where a straight guy was coerced in a solo "audition" for straight porn. At some point the interviewer started jacking him off and sucking his cock a little "just to see how big it can get". The guy was genuinely surprised telling him he wasn't expecting that.
You can't do this anymore, every guy on those sites knows what they're getting into and many are too eager to play (besides, all those bait-sites are bogus anyway - I recently saw an ad with Chandler on BaitBus). It's a scary world out there with diseases and crazy people doing scary things with you in the dark, so doing porn is the safest kind of sex you can do; you get a free test and you can try out anything on the menu knowing the other person is in the same boat as you. Society is still coming to terms with same-sex relations (there may be progress in laws but the mentality still needs work) and gay porn is a good excuse for DL guys to explore their options in a safe way - it's still not commonplace to have sex with a man but if it was for money it's all peachy and smart.
The only way for CF to get back into the game is to focus on scenarios and bromances. I don't mean have scripted story lines but put the guys we've already seen in every combination into a situation that shows off their best [sexual] qualities - after a good workout, a game of some sport, or even a night out with their girlfriends (you keep writing about them but I've yet to see them ).
Down under and Down on the Farm are very good examples of nicely lit or photographed scenes that appear to happen spontaneously within an overall story line. Unlike other showcase-porn videos by the other professional studios where you just watch the guys fuck in unrelated scenes, have them followed by the camera and record what happens during or after an event the guys attended. We know the guys by now and have seen them "introduced" into the whole gay sex thing, now let's apply that to their fictional lives. Give us something new to look forward to.
I hate to say this, but what CF needs is a bit of Black Spark.
^ That's one huge gif.
^^ I tried to reduce the file size but it gets fuzzy. This one (with Travis) is quite a bit smaller. And Travis could do this all day as far as I'm concerned.
Travis can do any fucking thing he wants any time, anywhere, with anyone and make it hot!
Are you trying to convince me that guys on the down low think that the best way to explore their sexuality is to sign a contract with a porn studio and have sex with a guy in front of a camera and have that clip plastered all over the internet forever?
The very meaning of the term "down low" means that they don't want anyone to know or see what they are doing - usually their wives/girlfriends/family.
Most of the bios and stories about porn models are made up anyway so I cant see any guy who was on the DL seeking a career in porn.
The world is not that big especially the gay world - people get recognised all the time. If it wasn't against the rules of this forum I'm sure that there would be a whole section about "gay porn stars seen around". Spotted at your gym, the supermarket or wherever.
Discovering ones sexuality on camera to be shared with the world when you're on the DL seems far fetched. Wouldn't you be better off doing it at your local gay Sauna/bath house? Sex club? Gym? Beat? Why online for money with all the risks of being recognised?
And "she's" still a MAN.
The safety factors been mentioned already: at Sean Fisher you know your partners been very recently tested, etc. Also, you're guaranteed somebody who's reasonably hot. Bathhouses are usually skeevy places, and the pickins can be awfully slim -- lots of fat, bald, hairy guys saying "come to daddy!", punctuated by the occasional whiff of shit. Corbin Cody provides both hot guys and a clean, safe place to mess around.Discovering ones sexuality on camera to be shared with the world when you're on the DL seems far fetched. Wouldn't you be better off doing it at your local gay Sauna/bath house? Sex club? Gym? Beat? Why online for money with all the risks of being recognised?
So now it's not so Cirque du Soleil anymore but they now seem to request that the models take on so much muscle that they end up looking cartoonish almost : the proportions on some of the models are becoming grotesque in my view. Aidan for instance has become bizarre physically.
So now it's okay to enjoy gay sex and/or be gay/express same sex attarction at SC (which still ground for a demotion at CF) but you have to look like the Hulk to do so (only more orange/less green). For instance when Brodie returned this year, he did not look as jacked up and commenters over at ****** complained so that must mean I'm in the minority.
At least CF does not seem to pressure their models so much : Harper for example still does not look "inhuman" à la Connor/Dawson over the time he has been there (and had some lovey-dovey sex with Cooper just recently). Travis 2.0 on the other hand looked like peer pressure got to him. He seemed perfectly fine in my eyes the first time around (except that he looked too much like my cousin, down to the perpetually blushing cheeks so that was creepy).
It seems to me that gay pron performers have to look super-human to be idolized but doesn't that make them less relatable/impossible to include in your fantasy ("I could bag that")?
And as a bald and hairy poster, I would suggest that posters use "unattractive" rather than the same tired three adjectives when describing their personal "scourge of gay sex" in their posts.
It would make me feel less ashamed and be more welcoming to all readers whatever their shape, sex or sizes. Lest they be fat, bald, hairy, when they should be scorned by all and burned at the stake immediately of course.
^Who are you? Jake Cruise? Daddy Mugs?
Fuxwell suggested that if a guy were truly DL, he'd explore in a bathhouse as opposed to doing internet gay porn. On the surface, this would stand to reason but for the grim reality of the typical gay bathhouse. As I was making a case for porn vs Steamworks, I felt compelled to provide some lurid details. 'Unattractive' doesn't begin to describe to those benches filled with chubby daddies playing with their puds. An 18-22 year-old curious guy, especially the kind who models for Randy Dudes, would RUN AWAY!
Porn provides these guys with a guaranteed age-appropriate, STD-free hottie with a clean asshole and no crabs -- plus a paycheck to help them rationalize their play when the get found out.
Re: CF vs. SC - I think there's room for many studios in gay porn (read: different strokes for different folks). I just don't think that one has to be hypercritical of SC in order to feel better about the current state of CF. Where CF has to be taken to task esp. by its loyal fans is that their 2012 brand issues are entirely fixable. TPTB just has to want that to happen but unfortunately they're NOT demonstrating that they do.
And "she's" still a MAN.
And "she's" still a MAN.
“If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything” > HELL PROOF
And "she's" still a MAN.
And "she's" still a MAN.
Indeed - So far the reasons why guys on the DL do gay porn is;
HIV and STI testing
Bathhouses are dirty and full of old men and smell bad
No one will ever recognise them - ever
Easy sex with hot guys
So lets say that Im on the DL and want to have sex with another guy. Instead of cruising the gym, a beat etc, I go to the internet and search. I stumble across this website called "Corbin Cody and Sean Fisher" and I think "wow I should model for them." My family will never find out and its a really great way of avoiding all those trolls at the sauna. Guys will have clean arseholes too and it will be perfectly safe".
I send some pics to them and I get a call - all on the DL of course. I then fly across the country at their expense and they take naked pics of me having sex with another guy. In the room there are Cameras of varying kinds, and a lot of people - but this doesn't put me off because the positives outweigh the minuses. I also get paid for this too. Im never concerned about going out anywhere and can be 100% sure that no one will every recognise me just like no one on these forums ever notices when a model changes his name and moves to another studio.
You're forgetting, the guys that do go into porn are a different sort than the average DL guy. They are by nature narcissists and exhibitionists. Some are discovered on the streets or on Facebook and others apply directly. Supposedly, there is a large number of guys CF has to decline during the application process as well as in person on first meet. It makes me wonder whether they just don't fit the "straight guy" image they usually aim for or whether they aren't as hot as they initially applied themselves.
It's the desire of fame and money combined with instant sexual gratification and with the right combination you can make it far in the industry without ever really compromising your true identity as the people you surround yourself with aren't always the same people that consume the product you make.
I doubt that the people who work in gay porn have the attitude that it's for sexual gratification. The studios need to maintain a mentality of professionalism in order to be efficient. Besides, much of the actual fucking is not passionate.
expensive rums. Connor was probably there as he's a rum connoisseur as per his Amazon wish list.
There is a rather large leap between recognizing someone on a screen and seeing them on the street with their clothes on. Context is everything. Also since there's a safety in numbers factor since there are a lot of guys who do this. I'm not talking about friends, who if you do it enough will find out through the grapevine. Rather people you don't know.No one will ever recognise them - ever Im never concerned about going out anywhere and can be 100% sure that no one will every recognise me just like no one on these forums ever notices when a model changes his name and moves to another studio.
Consider Trevor, who apparently went on to a top-25 law school. I think the possibility that some partner on the hiring committee of a White Shoe firm actually saw his CF materials is quite a long shot.
I finally got around to watching Tuesday's Tom and Trey. It was not a great scene - a Pete special, I guess, basically a one-position scene: rear-entry with lots of closeups of dick-meets-asshole action, but if you're a fan of Tom (am I the only one?) it showed how far he has come in appearing to actually enjoy the sex.
Trey was good, his usual competent self, but his was acting was obvious; I don't think he was too much into the scene at all. Tom meanwhile has grown into his role well. His body still looks a little soft in video, probably much better I bet IRL, but he has learned how to play to the camera. He's no longer afraid of cocksucking and lately really makes love to a dick, something I first noticed in his recent Connor scene. Graphically, at least, he's become one of CF's best cocksuckers. Then there were little actions/touches that showed he was paying attention to what Trey was feeling, which was more than Trey was doing for him. At the end of Trey's orgasm, Tom came mostly in Trey with just one spurt left over for the camera. You can't tell me he wasn't liking the action; he's not that good an actor. Dunno where Tom falls on the Kinsey scale, but it's not at 0.
^^ I doubt it. I think that they would have released it by now. (I like your pic of Josh)
anyone recall who this beautiful guy qas? too lazy to look up:
Oh, and for those of you who say that your only other alternative is bathhouses. Um....have you heard of Grinder?
why would they shoot a still with Colby's hand suggestively on Travis' thigh if there wasn't a scene to go along with it?
wasn't there a splash photo a while back with Travis & TJ and someone else? Travis & TJ: now there was a great scene that never was!
GRINDR is the home of false advertising, as was Manhunt and Adam4Adam prior to it. Also, no guarantees on disease-free, which may be College Blue's biggest selling point. And of course you don't get a paid vacation in Vegas or So Cal for hooking up on GRINDR.
All Singularity and I are trying to suggest are reasons why some guys might take the porn route. Of course the other allure is that you might get to have sex with some guy you've been beating off to.
As far as recognizing celebs in public, can't tell you how many times stars in-situ have had to be pointed out to me. I didn't expect to see Gwyneth Paltrow buying cigs in the Duane Read on 24th & 8th so I didn't recognize her. It wasn't until 10 minutes later that I made the connection with the cute blond two people in front of me on line and even then recognition came through the back door "Blythe Danner lives in Chelsea . . ."
Two major problems, however. That silly tattoo, and he keeps appearing in scenes that are badly shot. I'm all about rear-entry positions in my porn, but if it's nothing more than a ten-minute close-up of a penis and an anus, well, that's just poor.
Like I said, if his scene with Connor had been shot better (say, it was shot back in the Florida house, and Connor was wearing a condom so we wouldn't have spent ten minutes focussed on all that non-condomed-penis-action), then it would've been a top 10 ever scene, easily.
Again, I blame the switch to bareback. I want to see two attractive guys having passionate (or dominate) sex, I don't want to sit through twenty minutes of an anatomy lesson.
And I've been to Steamworks in Chicago and Berkeley. Both had more hot guys than trolls. I expected to find creepy old guys - I didn't. I found the same guys I'd seen out and about in the bars, for the most part. And they're both amazingly clean. As were the assholes I encountered.
Sounds like heaven. The last time I went to the West Side Club it smelled like a latrine on a hot afternoon in mid-July. As for the clientele, they looked like they came straight from The Eagle.
Connor & Sloan
Cain & ?
more Connor & Sloan
more Connor & Sloan
Cain & ?
more Connor & Sloan
more Sloan & Connor
Cain & Marc
Kent & Chandler
Marc & Sloan
Marc, Sean & Zeb
Zeb & Jackson
Marc & Zeb
Aidan & Chandler
If the world ends today, at least I finally watched Lucas and Dawson Down Under.
Have you been to an actual gay Sauna? A proper one? Like Babylon in Bangkok or Steamworks in Chicago? My guess is that you have not.
2) What is wrong with the clientele from the Eagle NY? Every time I have been there it has been full of masculine guys having a good time. Most of them were very sexy.
Im getting a very "ageist" vibe from you and also a naive one as well as you seem to believe all the propaganda put out by porn studios. Saying that a model is studying Law doesn't mean its true. Its the same reason why every pole dancer at spearmint rhino (straight strip clubs) are paying for their way thru college or doing a Phd. Its simply not true and just creates a false image.
I have been to gay Saunas all over the world (including Steamworks in Chicago as mentioned above). Without exception they have been well run and impeccably clean places. The clientele has been mixed. Not all of us are 21 year old buff models and nor are we all looking for that. At the Saunas here in my home in Australia I have seen local TV soap stars, Local news readers, Male models, Parliamentarians etc etc. They weren't all dirty old trolls as you have made them out to be.
I think its a bit unfair to make blanket comments about Sauna patrons and those the the Eagle when its clear that you have limited experience.