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    February 4, 2007 - 24th Anniversary of the Death of Karen Carpenter...

    Commemorating the 24th anniversary of the death of Karen Carpenter...




    Karen Anne Carpenter
    (March 2, 1950 - February 4, 1983)



    "And when my life is over,
    Remember when we were together -
    We were alone and I was singing this song for you."
    ~ From "A Song For You"




    "Iced tea was the hardest drink she consumed, and the only needles she used were for needlepoint. Her weirdest stash was a collection of Mickey Mouse memorabilia. The flagrant comet tail of self-indulgence so familiar in plummeting stars like Elvis Presley and John Belushi did not mark Karen Carpenter's life-or her death of heart failure on February 4 at the age of 32. Yet for all the soothing middle-of-the-road appeal she and her composer-arranger brother, Richard, 37, brought to 41 Carpenters records-which have sold 80 million copies and won three Grammy Awards-she had led a long, lonely struggle against another form of self-destruction, anorexia nervosa.

    "She collapsed at about 9 a.m. in the wardrobe closet of the room her parents have always kept for her at the family home is suburban Downey, Ca., about 30 minutes from Los Angeles. Downey firemen entered the closet to find Karen slumped nude of the floor, her nightgown draping her body. She had apparently just begun to dress for the day. at the request of the rescue workers, Karen's grief-stricken mother, Agnes, was escorted from the room by husband Harold.

    "The rescuers at first detected a faint pulse in Karen's neck that made them think, says paramedic Bob Gillis, that "she had a good chance to survive." But then she went into cardiac arrest. Racing over from his house a few minutes away, Richard Carpenter arrived just before the paramedics carried his sister out to the ambulance. Despite continuous efforts to resuscitate her, Karen was pronounced dead at Downey Community Hospital at 9:51 a.m."

    From PEOPLE WEEKLY
    Written by ERIC LEVIN, reported by
    SUZANNE ADELSON, GAIL
    BUCHALTER and JOSEPH PILCHER
    February 21, 1983





    "The Carpenters' contribution to popular music will stand forever. Great love songs never go out of style, and Karen and Richard's work surely strikes a chord in all who cherish beautifully honed compositions set amid rich melodies and lush arrangements. And there will always be that stunning voice. Unique and instantly recognizable, the finest female singer in her genre provided the Carpenters with the bedrock of music that will always transcend trends and fads. Its beauty is its simplicity, directness, and melodic power. Richard always made sure that every sonic detail was just to his liking. The combination of Richard's extraordinary abilities to recognize or write a great song, arrange the material, produce the records, and Karen's magical God-given voice, gave the world a sound that will always be remembered."
    From: The CARPENTERS, The Untold Story" (c)1994, Ray Coleman





    "When she really comes alive is when she sings; she changes completely. Joking or talking one moment, she becomes a different person the very next, as soon as she opens her mouth. Out comes that unique and wonderful voice, exactly as on record, expressing fascinating contrasts: chilling perfection with much warmth; youth with wisdom. Then she seems to be someone who knows something of life. She must be aware of the transformation she brings about, yet when asked to describe what happens at such a moment, all she will guardedly say is, “I don’t know what you mean. I’m not thinking of anything in particular. I’m just… trying to get it right."
    From ROLLING STONE
    July 4, 1974
    By Tom Nolan








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    What a tragedy this was - death in this manner is truly hard to understand.



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    Re: February 4, 2007 - 24th Anniversary of the Death of Karen Carpenter...

    thanks for sharing.

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    I know the name, but that's about it.

    However, to paraphrase a lovely phrase........ premature death of someone great dimimishes everyone one of us.........imagine the gifts that would have been bestowed on us!

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    Re: February 4, 2007 - 24th Anniversary of the Death of Karen Carpenter...

    Beautiful!!!!! Thank you very much!

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    When I was young
    I'd listen to the radio
    Waitin' for my favorite songs
    When they played I'd sing along
    It made me smile.

    Those were such happy times
    And not so long ago
    How I wondered where they'd gone
    But they're back again
    Just like a long lost friend
    All the songs I loved so well.

    Every Sha-la-la-la
    Every Wo-o-wo-o
    Still shines
    Every shing-a-ling-a-ling
    That they're startin' to sing's
    So fine.

    When they get to the part
    Where he's breakin' her heart
    It can really make me cry
    Just like before
    It's yesterday once more.

    Lookin' back on how it was
    In years gone by
    And the good times that I had
    Makes today seem rather sad
    So much has changed.

    It was songs of love that
    I would sing to then
    And I'd memorize each word
    Those old melodies
    Still sound so good to me
    As they melt the years away.

    Every Sha-la-la-la
    Every Wo-o-wo-o
    Still shines
    Every shing-a-ling-a-ling
    That they're startin' to sing's
    So fine.

    All my best memories
    Come back clearly to me
    Some can even make me cry.

    Just like before
    It's yesterday once more.

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    Re: February 4, 2007 - 24th Anniversary of the Death of Karen Carpenter...

    Karen Carpenter Through The Years...

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    Another wonderful post, Ned .... thank you for that! I adored The Carpenters ..... they were at their most popular when I was in my late teens, and I was absolutely devastated when Karen died. I have most of their recordings (still on vinyl LP's, too, though I've dubbed them onto cassette tapes) and play them all the time.

    Karen Carpenter did, indeed, have a "magical, God-given voice" and I get a lump in my throat every time I hear her sing.

    Does anybody know if Richard is still involved in the music industry?
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    Thanks for a beautiful tribute.

    I remember where I was when I heard the first Carpenters hit (Close to You) on the radio. Isn't it strange that I would remember that?

    And I also remember where I was when I heard Karen had died. So sad.

    She was one of the greatest female voices of the 20th century.

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    I always find Karen's voice very enchanting & enthralling.................& her brother Richard is enchanting as well...............................

    thanks for the memories............NN

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    oh wow i find myself getting goosebumps and nearly tearing up looking at this thread. I loved her as kid. I played Yesterday Once More and Top of The World over and over and over again, and as I kid sang "Sing sing a song" at the top of my lungs. She brought the word "anorexia" into the mainstream conversation but oh my god how tragic a death. I loved her.

    If you don't know who Karen Carpenter is and you want you heart to be overwhelmed with a voice, start listening to her.

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    Re: February 4, 2007 - 24th Anniversary of the Death of Karen Carpenter...

    I was thinking about the song "Close to You" a few days ago.
    I always loved her voice, it had a haunting quality to it.

    No matter how happy the song was, there was a hint of sadness to her voice that I always found toching..

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    Re: February 4, 2007 - 24th Anniversary of the Death of Karen Carpenter...

    Quote Originally Posted by Riverrick View Post
    Thanks for a beautiful tribute.

    I remember where I was when I heard the first Carpenters hit (Close to You) on the radio. Isn't it strange that I would remember that?

    And I also remember where I was when I heard Karen had died. So sad.

    She was one of the greatest female voices of the 20th century.
    I remember where I was the first time I heard Rainy Days and Mondays on the radio. My sister owned the Close To You album, but I was the one who played it all the time. But the first time I heard Rainy Days and Mondays on the radio, when I heard "the voice," I instantly knew who it was singing...

    I often wonder what she would sound like had she lived to be 40, 50 years old... Next month she would have been 57 years old...

    So many more songs, so much more music we all lost...







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    I was standing in a neighbor's house. I don't know what I was doing but that song came on the radio and time just stood still. I was mesmerized and curious and suddenly kind of, well....happy. Her voice and the stacked harmonies in the background were something so new and different and amazing.

    I would guess that her voice would only have gotten better as it matured. Too bad we'll never hear that.

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    Clip from "Tommy Boy"

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    I always feel like she sings like she's smiling. Whenever I hear the old songs of the Carpenters, her voice just sounds like it curves into a small smile.

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    Re: February 4, 2007 - 24th Anniversary of the Death of Karen Carpenter...

    Paul Williams talks about Rainy Days and Mondays

    In his concerts, Paul Williams explains the inspiration behind the opening lines of Rainy Days and Mondays:

    "The opening line actually comes from my mother! She'd wander around the house mumbling, and you could almost discern profanity in there! And I'd ask her, 'What's the matter, mom?' And she'd say, 'Oh nothing, I'm just feeling old. I just feel old today...' And out of that came, "Talking to myself and feeling old..."


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    Paul Williams: ("After 'We've Only Just Begun,') the next Carpenters hit we had was 'Rainy Days And Mondays'. I didn't go into the studio with them; they weren't looking over my shoulder when I was writing the lyrics, so I didn't look over their shoulder when they were recording. So it was always a surprise for me - when they would play something for me, it was usually pretty well done. And I loved the record of 'We've Only Just Begun', but the record of 'Rainy Days And Mondays' I liked much much more. There was something, I don't know if it was the saxophone [played by Bob Messenger, a longtime member of the touring and studio band who backed The Carpenters], or what it was, but it sounded awfully grown up for something that I'd been involved with. And I don't know, there was something about her that was... I guess I had a crush on her, now that I think about it. When you hear that lady sing those words you've got to know there was a little bit of a connection there. I remember her playing at the rehearsal hall and soundstage at A&M, playing me the record and watching me listening to it, and it was a real pretty memory... I was very young then, of course."

    From John Tobler. The Complete Guide to the Music of the Carpenters
    (New York: Omnibus Press, 1998), pp. 29-30


    ==========================================

    When Karen recorded "Rainy Days and Mondays," she placed a few pillows on the studio floor, made herself comfortable and sang into the mic lying down to get into the mood of the song.


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    February 4, 1983 for me, at least, was the day the music died...




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    Sometimes when I would go to my Grandpa's grave Forrest Lawn in Cypress,Ca the same place she was buried before her brother moved her remains I would sometime go and pay my repects to her.
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    beautiful beautiful thread.

    http://img5.ranchoweb.com/images/fas...ncarpenter.jpg

    She was so amazing. It also nearly makes me cry that young people today barely recognize her name.

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    The Carpenters' beautiful choral sound was created by overdubbing. They would sing a track, then play it back in the studio, and sing over the taped replay. By creating multiple tracks in this manner, they could create the sound of a small choir by using only two voices.

    Below is a video clip from their last television special "Music, Music, Music" (1980) which shows how this process worked. It's fascinating...


    Without A Song


    Without a song the day would never end
    Without a song the road would never bend
    When things go wrong a man ain't got a friend
    Without a song

    That field of corn would never see a plow
    That field of corn would be deserted now
    A man is born but he's no good no how
    Without a song

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    she was an amazing singer. puts these youngens of today's music to shame.
    ... and I am uninamious in this

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    This is a live recording of "And When He Smiles," a song that was never recorded by the Carpenters on any album. The vocal was ripped from the video and remastered for the album "As Time Goes By." The video is from a BBC television special from September 1971. Karen is just 21 years old in this clip. She plays the drums and sings the song with as much feeling and professionalism as if it had been a studio recording.

    And When He Smiles


    And when he smiles he makes the sun shine
    He wouldn't think to make it rain
    Happiness runs in the family
    And he's a boy from the good old earth and the high tree forest
    And he's just about the happiest boy that I ever knew

    And when he smiles he makes me sigh
    He doesn't have a point of view
    Happiness runs in the family
    And he's a boy from the good old earth and the high tree forest
    And he's just about the happiest boy that I ever knew

    And when he smiles he makes the sun shine
    And warms the day with morning dew
    Happiness runs in the family
    And he's a boy from the good old earth and the high tree forest
    And he's just about the happiest boy that I ever knew
    And he's just about the happiest boy that I ever knew

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    Copy of the program for Karen Carpenter's funeral








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    I wonder what ever happened to the tracks from her unreleased solo album?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverrick View Post
    I wonder what ever happened to the tracks from her unreleased solo album?
    Several tracks were remixed and appear on a two Carpenters' albums released after Karen's death - "From The Top" and "Lovelines."

    In 1996 Richard finally agreed to release the solo album. It features 12 songs out of 22 songs that Karen recorded for her solo album in 1979-80.

    More information:
    http://pachome1.pacific.net.sg/~hungster/solo.htm

    There are still 10 unreleased tracks from the album: eight of them are work-leads, while the remaining two are considered outtakes: "Love Makin' Love to You," and "Truly You." When A&M Records folded in 2000, eight of the 10 songs began surfacing on the Internet. I've managed to download them all and listen to them. Some of them actually sound better than what was released on the album...

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    I didn't realize that the album had been released. Looks like I'm behind on this stuff. Probably because I didn't have JUB to give me all of this wonderful information. Thanks Ned!

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    I really wish the Karen Carpenter Story would be released on dvd. I saw it on tv about 4 years ago and it moved me..

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    I love the Carpenters. I forgot that it was the anniversary of her death. I just pulled their greatest hits out this past week to listen to in the car! Thanks for the reminder!
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    Thanks for this lovely thread - she had such grace as a performer. If only.....


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    I find it hard to listen to the Carpenters, despite her beautiful voice. It's because her songs were often so sad and knowing what would happen to her just makes it too heartrending for me to listen. I also remember how We've Only Just Begun would get a lot of play at graduations, ideal for putting a lump in one's throat.

    There are some exceptions though, catchy, fun songs like All You Get From Love is a Love Song.

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    I, too, loved the Carpenters, and Karen particularly.

    Theirs was the first album I ever bought. I still remember where I was when I was listening to the radio and heard about her death.

    Sadly, her anorexia nervosa was caused by a journalist making a glib comment about her weight.

    Sticks and stones make break our bones, but names really, really hurt us.

    I still have my records, and love her Christmas carol, Merry Christmas, Darling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish1 View Post
    and love her Christmas carol, Merry Christmas, Darling.
    I maintain that it is not offically the Christmas season untill i put on their Christmas album.

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    "NOW" was the last song Karen ever recorded...
    It was a "first take" work lead completed after her death
    and released on the album VOICE OF THE HEART


    NOW


    Now
    Now when it rains, I don't feel cold
    Now that I have your hand to hold
    The winds might blow through me
    But I don't care
    There's no harm in thunder if you are there

    And now
    Now when we touch, my feelings fly
    Now when I'm smiling, I know why
    You light up my world like the morning sun
    You're so deep within me we're almost one

    And now
    All the fears that I had start to fade
    I was always afraid love might forget me
    Love might let me down
    Then look who I found

    The winds might blow through me
    But I don't care
    There's no harm in thunder if you are there

    And now, now
    Now when I wake, there's someone home
    I'll never face the nights alone
    You gave me the courage I need to win
    To open my heart and to let you in
    And I never really knew how until now
    Until now

    No, I never really knew how
    Until now

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    This topic is based on Karen Carpenter of the carpenters..

    they are my favorite DUO.. not band or artist.. but duo.

    I have loved the carpenters since age 3 and am basically near 19. I own all albums and solo works from karen and richard. I collect all their rare 45s and deleted tracks.

    Karen's voice is unlike any other voice.. she's like a queen... full of emotion and beauty.. i think she's absolutely gorgeous and had the perfect body. To this day id love to have her figure.. call me sick but shes amazingly beautiful.. well WAS that way and shes a skeleton now and dead in the ground. I believe she was gorgeous she was just loosing weight the wrong ways. I'm currently 5'11 and last month i went from 176 to 152 in just two weeks.. its easy and simple.. but i didnt use purging and laxatives.. she fucked herself over on that.. but anyway.

    My favorite albums are probably lovelines, voice of the heart, and ticket to ride!

    Lovelines makes me cry as i hear her voice at the very end of little girl blue.. u can hear her voice crack during some points of lovelines like shes crying at the same time.. i love it.. ! I think she has the second prettiest voice the first being donna lewis.. but karen is AMAZING... her songs are SOO emotional they just make u think of a certain someone when in a certain mood and they make you break down. Karen has given me so much since i was a baby yet shes dead... anyone else a fan?

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    I was in my late teens - 20's when the Carpenters were huge in the charts and I adored Karen .... still do. I was devastated when she died so tragically and so young. "Close to You", "Top of the World", "Rainy Days and Mondays" and "A Song For You" are probably my favourite songs, though I loved absolutely everything she did.

    Close to You ...



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    Re: Karen Carpenter

    I remember my 'Carpenters - The Singles" cassette broke down the day she died. I didnt know until I read the papers the next day. Believe it or not.

    Anyway my best 2 songs are : This Masquerade and Only Yesterday. Only Yesterday was the first song I heard from the Carpenters and it really stuck on me. This Masquerade has a very good melody no other artist can beat the Carpenters' version of This Masquerade.

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    Richard Carpenter is coming out with a new CD. It's called "She Ain't Heavy, She's My Sister."

    Karen's picture will be on the side.

    If Mama Cass had shared her sandwich with Karen Carpenter, they'd both be alive today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by januaryguy View Post
    ..... This Masquerade has a very good melody no other artist can beat the Carpenters' version of This Masquerade.
    OMG yeah .... LOVED that one, too! *memories come flooding back*

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    Quote Originally Posted by bw92116 View Post
    Richard Carpenter is coming out with a new CD. It's called "She Ain't Heavy, She's My Sister."

    Karen's picture will be on the side.

    If Mama Cass had shared her sandwich with Karen Carpenter, they'd both be alive today.

    Do you have any jokes from this century?

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    There are quite a few Karen fans around here, DarkEmoBoi. Thanks for the thread. Her voice is incredible.

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    ^Indeed there are quite a few fans around here. Can you imagine what that glorious voice would sound like today, if she had lived? That luscious warmth, further burnished by the passing years...it's almost too much to comprehend.

    I was lucky enough to meet Karen and Richard in 1977 (at a Barry Manilow concert, of all places!), and they were both so gracious, so friendly...

    Class acts all the way. And the legacy she left will never die.

    Here's an amazing website with tons of rare material:

    http://www.rolandchayer.com/TheVanKarenLife/index.php/

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    omg i cant wait to hear his new album.. when will it be available

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkEmoBoi View Post
    omg i cant wait to hear his new album.. when will it be available
    There is no new album, Dark...

    bw was attempting (and failing) to make a joke.

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    Re: Karen Carpenter

    I loved the Carpenters. Karen's voice was perfection. Definitely my two favorite songs are "Superstar" and "Goodbye To Love". For something different, though, check out their album "Passage". It's odd to think of them doing songs by Klaatu, Michael Franks and Andrew Lloyd Webber, but it just clicks.

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    omg im mad there is no album... fuck that asshole and not in a good way

    lol
    omg i love passage.. good album.. i have it on LP, cd, and 8-track. it was so amazing

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    Yeah.

    That voice of hers was just amazing...

    It makes me sad beyond sad how her life ended, and WAY, way too early...

    As mentioned above, 'This Masquerade' (written by Leon Russell) was one of her best performances....

    Plus, their Christmas album is pretty much the best one there is....

    I miss you, Karen, I wish you hadn't died because you were worried that you were too fat.....



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    she want fat.. she was gorgeous.. lol. I told my mom when i was 5 i wanted to look just like her.. she went nuts and lectured me about how i would die.. i didn't care. I have so many posters.. records... fan club letters.. the works.

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