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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    I voted "Dickens' work." Chuck's catalogue is too exquisite to ignore.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite





    Quote Originally Posted by medic1 View Post
    ^That was one of the best books, i have ever read...

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    I have only done Pride, Expectations and Twist from beginning to end.

    My life is too short to do Dickens and Austen again. My friends say I must attempt Middlemarch but I don't think I can bother with Breist if it has SO many characters to bother with.



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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I have only done Pride, Expectations and Twist from beginning to end.

    My life is too short to do Dickens and Austen again. My friends say I must attempt Middlemarch but I don't think I can bother with Breist if it has SO many characters to bother with.


    It is only 38-line 290 pages in the dtv klassik version and, as I said today elsewhere, it reads like Austen (like a crappier but still sophisticated version of Austen, that is ), unless the translator to English is as talented and competent as Dubya.

  5. #105

    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Two hundred and ninety is too much.

    The only piece of fiction that has motivated to get through more 250 pages in the last few years has been this English, Gay, plot-driven story.


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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Two hundred and ninety is too much.

    The only piece of fiction that has motivated to get through more 250 pages in the last few years has been this English, Gay, plot-driven story.

    Oh, so you don't mind wasting your precious life in crap as long as it is wrapped in male homoshit, fundamentalist that you are, what a surprise!

    Although I admit that I bought that book, apart from being only €2.50 and, of course, having become an addict to those second-hand bookshop stores, is that I needed something to read during the total forty minutes I travel almost everyday, that wouldn't compel me to take down notes, and that I could be throwing away as I go through it, by that meaning that I could not travel with the sort of books I intend to keep, in the present or in any other state of my collection

  7. #107

    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Good god. This thread is as interminable as an Austen pulp. It even survived my reincarnation.

    For the love of god, let Austen die, already. Even I have that much sympathy for her.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    Good god. This thread is as interminable as an Austen pulp. It even survived my reincarnation.

    For the love of god, let Austen die, already. Even I have that much sympathy for her.
    *pat mode on* Austen is immortal! she is above and beyond your silly symphathy, so you can keep your stupid comments and sufferings for yourself: you are defeating your own purpose
    Besides, there is no "pulp" in her, she is all pure "absolute"*pat mode off* *belamian mode* *belamian mode*

  9. #109

    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    *belamian mode* *belamian mode*
    A legend in his own mind.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Where's the Rowlingite option?

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Where's the Rowlingite option?
    *Morgan Freeman's voice* Iiin yooour miiiiiiind... *Morgan Freeman's voice*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    A legend in his own mind.
    One jealous of a nothing
    Last edited by belamo; March 5th, 2014 at 12:16 PM.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Austen for me...I've always found Dickens to be utterly painful.
    blacksyringe

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Callum View Post
    Austen for me...I've always found Dickens to be utterly painful.
    See Keel? there is life beyond the parking lot.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    My man takes care of such minutiae.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    My man takes care of such minutiae.
    http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/115144.gif

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Who is that?

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    Who is that?
    Your man..

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    That explains your habit of walking into walls.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    That explains your habit of walking into walls.
    That's the Potter guy, not me

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I have only done Pride, Expectations and Twist from beginning to end.

    My life is too short to do Dickens and Austen again. My friends say I must attempt Middlemarch but I don't think I can bother with Breist if it has SO many characters to bother with.


    I would imagine that moving your lips while you read must be exhausting.

  21. #121

    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    My Dear Mr. Belamo,

    You will not be a little gratified, I am sure, when apprised of the intelligence that I have decided this day, the 5th Inst., to permit the late, but, I am universally assured, talented nevertheless, authoress Miss Jane Austen, another opportunity to entertain, if not enthrall (though I am determined to be optimistic) yours truly through her literary effort Pride and Prejudice, it being many years, nay decades, since I last attempted the feat.

    Toward that end I have acquired her novel, complete with illustrations from an 1865 publication of the same, through the intertube to my iPad. It may startle you further to learn that I am half-way through the third chapter, though I must admit none of it has been promising. So far, the characters would be better off in a Monty Python upper-class-twit sketch, perhaps pondering the delights of words that are woody.

    Be that as it may, I shall soldier on. The Empire wasn't built in a day, eh wot?

    Yrs, as always,
    K

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    So far, the characters would be better off in a Monty Python upper-class-twit sketch, perhaps pondering the delights of words that are woody.
    You are reading like a Janeite a sore one

    And your prose in that post is more Defoe than Austen
    Last edited by belamo; March 5th, 2014 at 11:34 PM.

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    ^ You said a very interesting thing last week but unfortunately I can't retrieve it in the JUB Search engine.

    Do you know that 'seminal', sexy, gayish film called Women In Love? There's a scene where the poor, Marxist school teacher is out in the fields and starts dancing some orgasmic Dalcroze Eurythmy.

    She works herself up into a frenzy but is confronted by a herd of bulls. She taunts then with her dancing—



    —until the rich land-owner catches her.



    She collapses and he scolds her for disturbing his bulls. Exhausted, she demands to know How can they be YOUR bulls? Did you EAT them?

    There was a similar situation here in JUB where someone was boasting that they had DONE Tolstoy or Dostoevsky or someone equally formidable and you replied with your usual beguiling, insouciant sang-froid something along the lines of 'Did you eat them?'.

    The implication was that the author's words had travelled from the JUBbers mouth to their anus without receiving any of their author's insight. The words went in one ear and out the other.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    ^ You said a very interesting thing last week but unfortunately I can't retrieve it in the JUB Search engine.

    Do you know that 'seminal', sexy, gayish film called Women In Love? There's a scene where the poor, Marxist school teacher is out in the fields and starts dancing some orgasmic Dalcroze Eurythmy.

    She works herself up into a frenzy but is confronted by a herd of bulls. She taunts then with her dancing—



    —until the rich land-owner catches her.



    She collapses and he scolds her for disturbing his bulls. Exhausted, she demands to know How can they be YOUR bulls? Did you EAT them?

    There was a similar situation here in JUB where someone was boasting that they had DONE Tolstoy or Dostoevsky or someone equally formidable and you replied with your usual beguiling, insouciant sang-froid something along the lines of 'Did you eat them?'.

    The implication was that the author's words had travelled from the JUBbers mouth to their anus without receiving any of their author's insight. The words went in one ear and out the other.
    Are you sure my "eat" was not in response to a "had"? The response of Glenda's character seems waaaaaay more linguistically arbitrary than I am wot to deliver...

  25. #125

    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    I've decided to go back in time and prevent Jane Austen's parents from meeting.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    I've decided to go back in time and prevent Jane Austen's parents from meeting.
    So you are determined to make her books deal with illegitimate uneligible young ladies
    Last edited by belamo; March 7th, 2014 at 09:53 AM.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    I refuse to soldier on. I blindfolded my iPad, tied it to a post and asked a passing American to shoot it.

    Fuck Jane Austen and the carriage she rode in in.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    I refuse to soldier on. I blindfolded my iPad, tied it to a post and asked a passing American to shoot it.

    Fuck Jane Austen and the carriage she rode in in.
    You're such a weak yokel

    But I understand perfectly what repels you so much about Austen, just like I can understand how can wide open spaces make agoraphobic people jitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    It is only 38-line 290 pages in the dtv klassik version and, as I said today elsewhere, it reads like Austen (like a crappier but still sophisticated version of Austen, that is ), unless the translator to English is as talented and competent as Dubya.
    who is this dubya person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    You're such a weak yokel
    Weak? Yokel? Because I refuse to swim in Austen's sea of twits and their brocade fart bags?
    But I understand perfectly what repels you so much about Austen, just like I can understand how can wide open spaces make agoraphobic people jitter
    A reach too far, methinks.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    Weak? Yokel? Because I refuse to swim in Austen's sea of twits and their brocade fart bags?A reach too far, methinks.
    Because you [wrongly] perceive them as such

    Didn't it occur to you that the problem may lie in your own shortcomings and self-satisfied pomposity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Didn't it occur to you that the problem may lie in your own shortcomings and self-satisfied pomposity?
    What would the little people know of pomposity?

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    What would the little people know of pomposity?
    That's what I ask myself upon pondering over your posts in wondering wonder
    Last edited by belamo; March 8th, 2014 at 09:03 AM.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Anyone comfortable with Austen's characters or who can't get enough of them, especially anyone who repeatedly reads that dreck has a pomposity problem. Not me.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    Anyone comfortable with Austen's characters or who can't get enough of them, especially anyone who repeatedly reads that dreck has a pomposity problem. Not me.
    Someone who uses the term pomposity, and employs it to qualify gratuitely this ir that, DOES HAVE pomposity issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Someone who uses the term pomposity, and employs it to qualify gratuitely this ir that, DOES HAVE pomposity issues
    You introduced the term.

    Physician, heal thyself.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Please not the difference of both with Charlesite and Janeite

    No third+ choices here: you're either with us or against us
    I just saw "Dick" and clicked....

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    You introduced the term.

    Physician, heal thyself.
    A guy (assuming that) who says he has decided to give Au. a try after having hated her, then in the nexts few hours takes it back and goes back to the ranting on her work... and finally engages in a silly cybercatfight with a funny Spaniard...

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    Quote Originally Posted by figjam View Post
    I just saw "Dick" and clicked....
    It was a trick question

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    A guy (assuming that) who says he has decided to give Au. a try after having hated her, then in the nexts few hours takes it back and goes back to the ranting on her work... and finally engages in a silly cybercatfight with a funny Spaniard...
    I read a few more chapters in that time. Anything not too tough a slog I read at 450 to 600 words per minute, though I type only at 85 (any language using Roman letters). I didn't slough off.

  40. #140

    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Speelburg says Expectations is the best Dickens for a good story arc but is still five times too long!


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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    I read a few more chapters in that time. Anything not too tough a slog I read at 450 to 600 words per minute, though I type only at 85 (any language using Roman letters). I didn't slough off.
    Well, since you have already reincarnated a couple of times before, you still have several lives left to devote to Austen reading...

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    ^ look at that simpering buck-toothed moll pouting away and showing off her paltry bosom and her just-raped hair-do and pretending to be a Jane Austen character.


    Anyway, I won't be bothering with any more picaresque, peripatetic Dickens in my natural lifetime. He devotes 720!!! pages to this story about an idiot.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    An insurance company's current account, for instance, comes with 40 pages of Terms and Conditions to the length of 34,162 words.

    That is almost twice the length of Macbeth (19,000 words), or around half the length of the average Agatha Christie (between 60,000 and 100,000 words).

    It’s a quarter of the length of Jane Austen’s Pride and Prejudice (122,000 words) or, at the other end of the scale, around one seventeenth of the best-loved of the seriously long books, Tolstoy’s War and Peace (600,000 words).


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...or-jargon.html

    Muriel Spark's last ones were about 20,000.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    An insurance company's current account, for instance, comes with 40 pages of Terms and Conditions to the length of 34,162 words.

    That is almost twice the length of Macbeth (19,000 words), or around half the length of the average Agatha Christie (between 60,000 and 100,000 words).

    It’s a quarter of the length of Jane Austen’s Pride and Prejudice (122,000 words) or, at the other end of the scale, around one seventeenth of the best-loved of the seriously long books, Tolstoy’s War and Peace (600,000 words).


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...or-jargon.html

    Muriel Spark's last ones were about 20,000.
    Why don't you just read Tibullus The third book is spurious... and only the first one is REAL good

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    ^
    I only have Schoolboy Latin. The unknown source on Wiki says the third book is jejune


  47. #147

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    Anthony Powell says Dickens is effete and too staid. Balzac has more real characters: Vautrin is homosexual.

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    I wonder if this hunk is a Dickensite, an Austenite or just a pretender.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    So I'm assuming that there are only five or six people on JUB who have actually read either?

    Not surprised.

    *audible sniff*
    Or read them and didn't bother to answer the poll.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    I bought an antique copy of "Bleak House" for 10cents from a table of public library discards at Neisner's when I was in the 4th grade. Never finished reading it, but I did hand in a book report on it. Also read an anotated copy of "Oliver Twist" my mother won in second grade, but only got as far as where they noted the joke of naming a pubescent male character Master Bates.

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