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  1. #101

    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    My man takes care of such minutiae.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    My man takes care of such minutiae.
    http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/115144.gif

  3. #103

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    Who is that?

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    Who is that?
    Your man..

  5. #105

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    That explains your habit of walking into walls.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    That explains your habit of walking into walls.
    That's the Potter guy, not me

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I have only done Pride, Expectations and Twist from beginning to end.

    My life is too short to do Dickens and Austen again. My friends say I must attempt Middlemarch but I don't think I can bother with Breist if it has SO many characters to bother with.


    I would imagine that moving your lips while you read must be exhausting.

  8. #108

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    My Dear Mr. Belamo,

    You will not be a little gratified, I am sure, when apprised of the intelligence that I have decided this day, the 5th Inst., to permit the late, but, I am universally assured, talented nevertheless, authoress Miss Jane Austen, another opportunity to entertain, if not enthrall (though I am determined to be optimistic) yours truly through her literary effort Pride and Prejudice, it being many years, nay decades, since I last attempted the feat.

    Toward that end I have acquired her novel, complete with illustrations from an 1865 publication of the same, through the intertube to my iPad. It may startle you further to learn that I am half-way through the third chapter, though I must admit none of it has been promising. So far, the characters would be better off in a Monty Python upper-class-twit sketch, perhaps pondering the delights of words that are woody.

    Be that as it may, I shall soldier on. The Empire wasn't built in a day, eh wot?

    Yrs, as always,
    K

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    So far, the characters would be better off in a Monty Python upper-class-twit sketch, perhaps pondering the delights of words that are woody.
    You are reading like a Janeite a sore one

    And your prose in that post is more Defoe than Austen
    Last edited by belamo; March 5th, 2014 at 11:34 PM.

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    ^ You said a very interesting thing last week but unfortunately I can't retrieve it in the JUB Search engine.

    Do you know that 'seminal', sexy, gayish film called Women In Love? There's a scene where the poor, Marxist school teacher is out in the fields and starts dancing some orgasmic Dalcroze Eurythmy.

    She works herself up into a frenzy but is confronted by a herd of bulls. She taunts then with her dancing—



    —until the rich land-owner catches her.



    She collapses and he scolds her for disturbing his bulls. Exhausted, she demands to know How can they be YOUR bulls? Did you EAT them?

    There was a similar situation here in JUB where someone was boasting that they had DONE Tolstoy or Dostoevsky or someone equally formidable and you replied with your usual beguiling, insouciant sang-froid something along the lines of 'Did you eat them?'.

    The implication was that the author's words had travelled from the JUBbers mouth to their anus without receiving any of their author's insight. The words went in one ear and out the other.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    ^ You said a very interesting thing last week but unfortunately I can't retrieve it in the JUB Search engine.

    Do you know that 'seminal', sexy, gayish film called Women In Love? There's a scene where the poor, Marxist school teacher is out in the fields and starts dancing some orgasmic Dalcroze Eurythmy.

    She works herself up into a frenzy but is confronted by a herd of bulls. She taunts then with her dancing—



    —until the rich land-owner catches her.



    She collapses and he scolds her for disturbing his bulls. Exhausted, she demands to know How can they be YOUR bulls? Did you EAT them?

    There was a similar situation here in JUB where someone was boasting that they had DONE Tolstoy or Dostoevsky or someone equally formidable and you replied with your usual beguiling, insouciant sang-froid something along the lines of 'Did you eat them?'.

    The implication was that the author's words had travelled from the JUBbers mouth to their anus without receiving any of their author's insight. The words went in one ear and out the other.
    Are you sure my "eat" was not in response to a "had"? The response of Glenda's character seems waaaaaay more linguistically arbitrary than I am wot to deliver...

  12. #112

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    I've decided to go back in time and prevent Jane Austen's parents from meeting.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    I've decided to go back in time and prevent Jane Austen's parents from meeting.
    So you are determined to make her books deal with illegitimate uneligible young ladies
    Last edited by belamo; March 7th, 2014 at 09:53 AM.

  14. #114

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    I refuse to soldier on. I blindfolded my iPad, tied it to a post and asked a passing American to shoot it.

    Fuck Jane Austen and the carriage she rode in in.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    I refuse to soldier on. I blindfolded my iPad, tied it to a post and asked a passing American to shoot it.

    Fuck Jane Austen and the carriage she rode in in.
    You're such a weak yokel

    But I understand perfectly what repels you so much about Austen, just like I can understand how can wide open spaces make agoraphobic people jitter

  16. #116

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    It is only 38-line 290 pages in the dtv klassik version and, as I said today elsewhere, it reads like Austen (like a crappier but still sophisticated version of Austen, that is ), unless the translator to English is as talented and competent as Dubya.
    who is this dubya person?

  17. #117

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    You're such a weak yokel
    Weak? Yokel? Because I refuse to swim in Austen's sea of twits and their brocade fart bags?
    But I understand perfectly what repels you so much about Austen, just like I can understand how can wide open spaces make agoraphobic people jitter
    A reach too far, methinks.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    Weak? Yokel? Because I refuse to swim in Austen's sea of twits and their brocade fart bags?A reach too far, methinks.
    Because you [wrongly] perceive them as such

    Didn't it occur to you that the problem may lie in your own shortcomings and self-satisfied pomposity?

  19. #119

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Didn't it occur to you that the problem may lie in your own shortcomings and self-satisfied pomposity?
    What would the little people know of pomposity?

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    What would the little people know of pomposity?
    That's what I ask myself upon pondering over your posts in wondering wonder
    Last edited by belamo; March 8th, 2014 at 09:03 AM.

  21. #121

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    Anyone comfortable with Austen's characters or who can't get enough of them, especially anyone who repeatedly reads that dreck has a pomposity problem. Not me.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    Anyone comfortable with Austen's characters or who can't get enough of them, especially anyone who repeatedly reads that dreck has a pomposity problem. Not me.
    Someone who uses the term pomposity, and employs it to qualify gratuitely this ir that, DOES HAVE pomposity issues

  23. #123

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Someone who uses the term pomposity, and employs it to qualify gratuitely this ir that, DOES HAVE pomposity issues
    You introduced the term.

    Physician, heal thyself.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Please not the difference of both with Charlesite and Janeite

    No third+ choices here: you're either with us or against us
    I just saw "Dick" and clicked....

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    You introduced the term.

    Physician, heal thyself.
    A guy (assuming that) who says he has decided to give Au. a try after having hated her, then in the nexts few hours takes it back and goes back to the ranting on her work... and finally engages in a silly cybercatfight with a funny Spaniard...

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    Quote Originally Posted by figjam View Post
    I just saw "Dick" and clicked....
    It was a trick question

  26. #126

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    A guy (assuming that) who says he has decided to give Au. a try after having hated her, then in the nexts few hours takes it back and goes back to the ranting on her work... and finally engages in a silly cybercatfight with a funny Spaniard...
    I read a few more chapters in that time. Anything not too tough a slog I read at 450 to 600 words per minute, though I type only at 85 (any language using Roman letters). I didn't slough off.

  27. #127

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    Speelburg says Expectations is the best Dickens for a good story arc but is still five times too long!


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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    I read a few more chapters in that time. Anything not too tough a slog I read at 450 to 600 words per minute, though I type only at 85 (any language using Roman letters). I didn't slough off.
    Well, since you have already reincarnated a couple of times before, you still have several lives left to devote to Austen reading...

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    ^ look at that simpering buck-toothed moll pouting away and showing off her paltry bosom and her just-raped hair-do and pretending to be a Jane Austen character.


    Anyway, I won't be bothering with any more picaresque, peripatetic Dickens in my natural lifetime. He devotes 720!!! pages to this story about an idiot.

  31. #131

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    An insurance company's current account, for instance, comes with 40 pages of Terms and Conditions to the length of 34,162 words.

    That is almost twice the length of Macbeth (19,000 words), or around half the length of the average Agatha Christie (between 60,000 and 100,000 words).

    It’s a quarter of the length of Jane Austen’s Pride and Prejudice (122,000 words) or, at the other end of the scale, around one seventeenth of the best-loved of the seriously long books, Tolstoy’s War and Peace (600,000 words).


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...or-jargon.html

    Muriel Spark's last ones were about 20,000.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    An insurance company's current account, for instance, comes with 40 pages of Terms and Conditions to the length of 34,162 words.

    That is almost twice the length of Macbeth (19,000 words), or around half the length of the average Agatha Christie (between 60,000 and 100,000 words).

    It’s a quarter of the length of Jane Austen’s Pride and Prejudice (122,000 words) or, at the other end of the scale, around one seventeenth of the best-loved of the seriously long books, Tolstoy’s War and Peace (600,000 words).


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...or-jargon.html

    Muriel Spark's last ones were about 20,000.
    Why don't you just read Tibullus The third book is spurious... and only the first one is REAL good

  33. #133

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    ^
    I only have Schoolboy Latin. The unknown source on Wiki says the third book is jejune


  34. #134

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    Anthony Powell says Dickens is effete and too staid. Balzac has more real characters: Vautrin is homosexual.

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    I wonder if this hunk is a Dickensite, an Austenite or just a pretender.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    So I'm assuming that there are only five or six people on JUB who have actually read either?

    Not surprised.

    *audible sniff*
    Or read them and didn't bother to answer the poll.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

  37. #137

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    I bought an antique copy of "Bleak House" for 10cents from a table of public library discards at Neisner's when I was in the 4th grade. Never finished reading it, but I did hand in a book report on it. Also read an anotated copy of "Oliver Twist" my mother won in second grade, but only got as far as where they noted the joke of naming a pubescent male character Master Bates.

  38. #138

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    I finally voted Austen because -

    Mr Darcy


  39. #139

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    Ralph Fiennes has just made a movie about Dickens' mistress to appease all those angry feminists who want to pay to see a tear-jerker movie about Dickens' reprehensible behaviour to his sexy little mistress. I shan't be paying to see it.


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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by carey579 View Post
    I finally voted Austen because -

    Mr Darcy

    One of the least Darcinian Darcys ever possible..: Macfayden...

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post

    Ralph Fiennes has just made a movie about Dickens' mistress to appease all those angry feminists who want to pay to see a tear-jerker movie about Dickens' reprehensible behaviour to his sexy little mistress. I shan't be paying to see it.


    Who goes to see a Fiennes movie... a British actor at work should be enough reason to watch a particular movie, but that is actually not always the case: in fact, that hardly matters anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Who goes to see a Fiennes movie… ...
    I don't. Douggie gets a CD from the Free Library or we watch it on TV.

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I don't. Douggie gets a CD from the Free Library or we watch it on TV.
    Whoever is ever willing to watch a Fiennes movie...

  44. #144

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    I can't be bothered with fiction any more seeing as how my attention-span is getting progressively shorter each year. But I feel I must make an effort.

    What should I pick up?

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    As a mystery novel, I found The Name of the Rose compelling^ while still engaging 'serious matters'.
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    The worst thing...is not energy depletion, economic collapse, conventional war, or the expansion of totalitarian governments. As terrible as these catastrophes would be for us, they can be repaired in a few generations. The one process now going on that will take millions of years to correct is loss of genetic and species diversity by the destruction of natural habitats. This is the folly our descendants are least likely to forgive us.--e.o. wilson

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltanspawn View Post
    As a mystery novel, I found The Name of the Rose compelling^ while still engaging 'serious matters'.
    You meant "novel" or "story"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    You meant "novel" or "story"?
    Pat wants your recommendation most of all, Belamo.
    Golden Lion Tamarin
    The worst thing...is not energy depletion, economic collapse, conventional war, or the expansion of totalitarian governments. As terrible as these catastrophes would be for us, they can be repaired in a few generations. The one process now going on that will take millions of years to correct is loss of genetic and species diversity by the destruction of natural habitats. This is the folly our descendants are least likely to forgive us.--e.o. wilson

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by zoltanspawn View Post
    Pat wants your recommendation most of all, belamo.
    Exactly, he wants it, he is wanting it, and it will remain so... it was all discussed between us on that matter already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Exactly, he wants it, he is wanting it, and it will remain so... it was all discussed between us on that matter already.
    Pat could read the same words you read. Is that too much to ask? Something in English? Such a trifle.
    Golden Lion Tamarin
    The worst thing...is not energy depletion, economic collapse, conventional war, or the expansion of totalitarian governments. As terrible as these catastrophes would be for us, they can be repaired in a few generations. The one process now going on that will take millions of years to correct is loss of genetic and species diversity by the destruction of natural habitats. This is the folly our descendants are least likely to forgive us.--e.o. wilson

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    Re: Dickensite or Austenite

    Quote Originally Posted by zoltanspawn View Post
    Pat could read the same words you read. Is that too much to ask? Something in English? Such a trifle.
    Nobody reads the same words I read. Nobody reads the same words. In fact, there are not even "words".

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