^ are you referring to Charles, Virginia, Jane or the Jizz-monkeys?
I have so often wished it were so with male listings too... gayromeo is hardly a beginning.
An article for the Austenite of this century.
God I hate Dick.
No wonder people who ever had the bakcward and perverted remains of judgment to praise so highly his work and the Tyndale-James Bible as grrrrreat achievements of human wit and aesthetic endeavor, are also usually the ones who make such screwed-up judgments concerning morals, politics and what not.
I don't think I will get through this project of reading his complete works, and I daresay, judging by the general criticism, that I am more scared of undertaking the reading of The Old Curiosity Shop than of the Huge Depression and WWIII brewing to a boiling point right now.
I started listening to the LibraVox recording of "The Mystery of Edwin Drood after watching the movie from youtube, but he just goes on and on and on like my mother after she'd been out on a shopaholic binge.
There's a good film version of "The Pickwick Papers". Someone uploaded a version with Spanish subtitles on youtube.
Man, I'm so infatuated with Austen's work these days... especially with all that bicentennial hype around Dickens going on which, however, doesn't so much vex me as amuse me in a supercilious sort of way.
Caro Belamo, why are you bothering with these long-winded English people when you have Cervantes (and others I've not heard about)
You know I have always held Crusoe in high steem, as the most "classically" piece ever written in English, and only the Huck Finn has given men something I longed for and could never find in the Spanish prose heritage or elsewhere in modern literature: a great stylist using simpler syntax and general economy, together with deep poetic feeling, used to build a work of higher general significance. To think that I didn't discover it until my middle thirties... or Byron's Juan until my very late twenties! While I considered Keats of the greatest ever until still a couple of years ago... and Poe! EVER!! even if it was during a brief period when I was 18...
So the alternative to Anglolit wouldn't be the Spanish one, or French or Chinese or Russian, Catalan or even less German *bluh*, but my dear books of Latin or even ancient Greek classics
What others exactly have you not heard about?
All the rest can perish
Is there a more bad ass gay character than Vautrin in all of the 19th ?
and Balzac piss is an other gold river
And you would consider yourself a true Frenchman?
As for the Comédie Humaine, it is immense as unfinished can be.
Some others would say that it doesn't get more "immense" than the DIVINA Commedia... or The Bible
To better understand human condition, which is preferable, knowing about human comedy, or about divine one ?
Maldoror is evil because he was born this way, by nature. Vautrin had to do what he did because of society, hence he is more interesting to me.
you two make me ashamed that I'm spending my time on an interactive site with hoes and bimboes here when I could be investing my time with those greats that you mention
Oh don't be ashamed
compared to some here, I am an illiterate
If you want to begin Balzac, one of his most "easy" novel is "Eugénie Grandet".
A free english translation here
Thanks Oakpope. I will attempt it.
Yeah, I know, I know: what is more incommensurable, the whole universe or a single atom, the whole landscape of Creation or the variegated play of a single speck of human existence?
(was too slow to reply )
I am enjoying IT so much that I needed to rebump this thread...
Love, love, LOVE Jane Austen! I've read Emma 3 times, and don't even get me started on Pride and Prejudice. As for Dickens--I can take it or leave it.. but Great Expectations? What a snore..
The other day I saw a woman reading Emma with a serious, almost stern expression on her face..: whoever does THAT?! (apart from a dickensite/charleyite, that is) was it because it was a Spanish translation?
Thread caught my eye because I'm going through Dickens again for the second time and while I love him more than Austen I appreciate them both. I think I'll give Austen another spin after I'm done with Dickens. Belamo, you might give John Milton a look for some truly classical English. I'll sometimes pick up _Paradise Lost_ at a random point and start reading it aloud just for the pleasure of the language.
English verse is Shakespeare and Milton... there is nothing else to my knowledge to deserve being even remotely placed along with them... as of yet?
As for Dickens, like I usually say about all hypes, it is not so much Dickens itself that I hate as Dickens as the apex of anything good. Austen has never been hyped in relation to anything serious like mere literary quality, because enlightened readers just appreciate, enjoy and shut up, while Janeism gives her a bad reputation among the clueless.
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^ What do you think of my use of the words pride and prejudice in this thread?
Do you think Austen holds both pride and prejudice up equally as negative qualities?
I voted "Dickens' work." Chuck's catalogue is too exquisite to ignore.
I have only done Pride, Expectations and Twist from beginning to end.
My life is too short to do Dickens and Austen again. My friends say I must attempt Middlemarch but I don't think I can bother with Breist if it has SO many characters to bother with.
Two hundred and ninety is too much.
The only piece of fiction that has motivated to get through more 250 pages in the last few years has been this English, Gay, plot-driven story.
Although I admit that I bought that book, apart from being only €2.50 and, of course, having become an addict to those second-hand bookshop stores, is that I needed something to read during the total forty minutes I travel almost everyday, that wouldn't compel me to take down notes, and that I could be throwing away as I go through it, by that meaning that I could not travel with the sort of books I intend to keep, in the present or in any other state of my collection
Good god. This thread is as interminable as an Austen pulp. It even survived my reincarnation.
For the love of god, let Austen die, already. Even I have that much sympathy for her.
Besides, there is no "pulp" in her, she is all pure "absolute"*pat mode off* *belamian mode* *belamian mode*
Where's the Rowlingite option?
Austen for me...I've always found Dickens to be utterly painful.