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    Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Who in the community in your opinion is the best and worst role models in terms of how they handle themselves. Their is no right or wrong answer and they don't have to be hugely famous, or even openly gay or bi. Explain your answer.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Quote Originally Posted by elvin1 View Post
    Isn't it sad that I can't even think of a good role model?

    The worst?: Perez Hilton and Chris Crocker come to mind.
    I know right? I was gonna post my opinion but I thought about it and I'm not too happy with anybody lol. Also agree about Perez and Crocker.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    I think that the people who stand up for the community (and who aren't afraid to call us out on our bullshit) are positive role models. Larry Kramer is abrasive as hell, but he's done a lot of work for equal rights and AIDS awareness, and he continues to criticize the apathy of the LGBT community. Pam Spaulding is one of my favorite bloggers, and I think she's a great role model. The LGBT youth (and allies) who fight for GSAs in their schools are real heroes, even if we never learn their names. Jonathan Larsen (who wrote Rent) and Tony Kushner (Angels in America playwright) deserve credit for helping to bring attention to LGBT issues and AIDS awareness.

    As for bad role models, I definitely second the vote for Perez (who is also a lousy role model for the Hispanic community). Anyone who promotes bug-chasing should immediately have their queer card revoked. And my ex, just because he's a twat.
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Quote Originally Posted by elvin1 View Post
    It'll be interesting to see who other people name. Good topic.
    Thank you. I wasn't sure if there was any question like this on here that was recent, but I didn't see one. I'm curious if people will consider the best role models to equal who is most outspoken or not, and if the worst will be the people who don't talk about it much.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Hmmm

    I would say that the best would be Harvey Feirstein for his activism, and Ian McClellan for just maintaining a quiet dignity as an elder statesman of the theatre.

    Worst? that would have to be Perez Hilton for obvious reasons. After that? David Geffen.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Quote Originally Posted by elvin1 View Post
    ^Great post.

    I finally thought of some. lol

    Cleve Jones
    Dustin Lance Black
    Good ones!

    Jimmy Creech just came to mind as well.
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Ian McKellen for best or David Hoyle for best.

    Worst....Tom Cruise.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Best: Andrew Sullivan, for showing that all gays do not have the same identical views.

    Worst: John Travolta, for obvious reasons.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Anderson has refused to come out of the closet.

    thats kind of a piss poor example IMO
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Quote Originally Posted by elvin1 View Post
    Anderson Spock Cooper? You have to be kidding me. lol
    but it does beg the question.. do you HAVE to come out to be a good role model for gays? I think so, but I bet there are others here who would disagree
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    How exactly is he 'in the closet', if everyone knows he's gay???
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Yes you do. There is no two ways about it.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    How exactly is he 'in the closet', if everyone knows he's gay???
    because HE hasn't openly acnowledged it

    all the rest is a guess and papparazzi pictures as proof
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Faisal Alam, the founder of Al-Fatiha Foundation
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Quote Originally Posted by BostonPirate View Post
    because HE hasn't openly acnowledged it

    all the rest is a guess and papparazzi pictures as proof
    There is a difference between someone not wanting to talk about their personal lives and someone who will stop at nothing to try to hide it. If Anderson Cooper were that ashamed, we wouldn't see pics of him with his bf. He'd just be getting some gloryhole action like Tom Cruise lol.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    John Amaechi and Sheryl Swoopes also come to mind. I'm not a basketball fan, but I'm all for out basketball players and out POC.
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    How could I have forgotten about wanda sykes????

    she answers the out of the closet thing here in this clip

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_wWJ-_4uSY[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF5V_BqLRuw[/ame]
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Indeed, the man is a fucking tool. So's Boy George.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    well we can't consider them a roll model unless they tell us they are part of our community. As Elvin said, there is no denying that there are entities out there that have assisted the community.

    But you have to be gay, and make that personal announcement, to be a gay roll model, IMO.

    I think, we all have our heroes for our own reasons, though, and what inspires each of us is a very personal thing. So.....

    I can see Hard up's point, Its just not how I would pick MY roll models, I guess I should say
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    The Best: Rupaul, Harvey Milk, Ellen Degeneres


    The Worst: Can't think of any names but the people who becomes the spokesmen and poster children of the ex-gay movement. Also gays involved in certain aspects of the porn industry who exploit young gays and coerce them into making bareback porn.

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    worst internet ans list countrys lonnnnnnnnnng time overdue da nut house

    best role model it obvious but not ta folk list countrys lonnnnnnnnnng time overdue da nut house

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Best - Ellen DeGeneres

    Worst - toe tapping, wide-stance Senator Larry Craig from Idaho

    I'll miss the many jokes about Larry, among them:

    "This morning on Capitol Hill ... four bathroom fires broke out inside the Senate office building. Inside one bathroom, three big, burly firemen broke the door down, kicked in the stall, and Senator Craig said, 'My dreams have come true.'" --Jay Leno

    "Larry Craig having second thoughts about resigning, and well I would add he's having second thoughts about tapping his foot in the men's bathroom. ... No, he's changed his mind and he thinks he's going to stay in the Senate, and that occurred to him after he saw the new batch of fall pages." --David Letterman

    "A lot of people are calling Senator Craig a hypocrite because he was a very vocal opponent of same-sex marriages. ... But to be fair, he has never come out publicly against anonymous gay bathroom sex." --Jay Leno

    "Senator Craig has now called a press conference for tomorrow, ... probably he's going to resign. He said that will be a private decision after consulting his wife, his children, and an anonymous dude he met at the Howard Johnsons on I-84." --Bill Maher

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    I can't worship anyone.

    But i can hear their points of views and make my own judgement.


    NEVER LISTEN TO A ONE SIDED STORY AND JUDGE.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    tip

    first invent ' gay community ' < when da whack job cultures figure out straight<HA ans thens go back 20000 years ans resit ya how ta walk on two feet exam

    HOhohoHOoooe

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoePhoenix7 View Post
    And now I have to add Don Lemon to my list of personal gay heroes.



    ^Intelligent, breathtakingly handsome and a Pisces?

    I need to ask him out for a date.
    hhe's all that and more

    just not out of the closet. I think people say hes gay because he discussed being molested by a man as a child.

    other than that, he has never said anything else to my knowledge. I hope he IS gay because he's hot as hell.
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    heres an openly gay anchor from MSNBC

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQCM_v5xYHA[/ame]

    Someone also found his pictures on namhunt and posted them all over.. Thomas Roberts.. hes all over google images... a hot guy

    AND how can we forget Rachel Maddow!

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjZmErjFhK4[/ame]
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoePhoenix7 View Post
    YES!!!!

    well now he's the perfect package.

    Its all about the eyes with him. So sexy.

    He used to do the morning shows too but now they only have him on during the weekend.
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    BostonPirate, that first Wanda Sykes clip was hilarious

    I actually expected someone else to have already mentioned him, but; Neil Patrick Harris. I can't imagine how many people have changed their perceptions of what it means to be gay because of him. He's such a likable guy, in every way, and people respond so well to that. Even typically 'homophobic' people who I've told he's gay respond in the same way; "Oh wow, really? .... hmm .... he's probably the funniest guy ever!"

    "He's legen....wait for it....DARY!" etc. etc.

    They see past their own ignorance and recognize that he's an amazing, talented guy. Hopefully that resonates with them and in the future, when they come across another gay person, they will do the same.

    (That was a paste from my post in the NPH thread, if it seems familiar)

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Have any good role models appeared over the last two years?

    Anderson Cooper? Adam Lambert? Dan Savage?
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    My heroes will never be celebs or politicians who come out when it's convenient for them. Mine are everyday people who dare to live open, honest lives and are willing to pay the price for it.
    Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    I don't think CC is qualified as a role model. He is still finding himself but he is surviving. You should try to be a role model for your friends and up and coming gays that you come into contact with. We all have flaws but we all have life experiences to pass on. If we followed public figures around all day, I'm sure you would catch them doing things you wouldn't consider "appropriate" but it doesn't make them not a nice person, it make them like everyone else. The only thing about them is they are visible to more people than most of us are but I don't think the term "role model" should be forced upon them. I love Coop and what he does and how he has accepted himself publicly. I can see it on his shows, now that he is out, how much free he is and relaxed. One could take that as something to aspire to, being true to yourself. Everyone is not in a position like Coop though. If he came out and got fired, his life would not be in ruins, he would just fine financially, only his pride/feelings would be hurt. You have to take certain things you like about people and apply them to your life but only if it works in your favor. I don't go out speaking to youth groups or anything like that but when I am around my younger gay friends and they ask me things or if I see them doing dumb shit, I will let them know how I feel or what I think and they can take that and make their own choices.
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    A few of the best:

    Rachel Maddow, Sam Champion, Suze Orman, Anderson Cooper, Ellen Degeneres

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    Edith Windsor.
    That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    I can't think of too many off the top of my head right now, but among the best are Dan Savage and Ellen Degeneres.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    I'd give Ellen a positive rating along with Neil Patrick Harris and Anderson Cooper.

    Elton John went off the deep end with his one sided cat fight against Madonna. Colton from Survivor was about the worst I've ever seen. He was nothing more than a spoiled, whiny, lazy stereotype.

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    My favorite: Lily Tomlin....she considers herself being gay a non issue and way before anyone else did their media announcement she has never hidden it...nor announced it. I fucking love that.

    Worst: GO Proud

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrock-JD View Post
    ...Elton John went off the deep end with his one sided cat fight against Madonna....
    She's busy with catfights of her own
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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonPirate View Post
    Anderson has refused to come out of the closet.

    thats kind of a piss poor example IMO
    He finally did, but it bloody well took him long enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvin View Post
    I am going to be honest:

    Yes. You do need to be out. How can someone be a good role model if they are afraid of coming out? How can LGBT's relate or even know?
    It is fine if he wants to say, "I'm gay, but I don't discuss my sex life." Most straight people don't discuss the details of their sexual practices either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvin View Post
    Anderson Spock Cooper? …
    He has big ears?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    She's busy with catfights of her own
    There should be more of this.
    Celebrities have a fight with governments ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    She's busy with catfights of her own
    There should be more of this.
    Celebrities have a fight with governments ...


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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    I'll agree with Adrock on Neil Patrick Harris. I think the worst is Perez Hilton

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    I forgot to add the other ones I think are good role models...besides Lily Tomlin I think Neil Patrick Harris, George Huang (L&O SVU), Jillian Michaels (Biggest Loser), Tabitha Coffey (Tabitha Takes Over) and Tracy Chapman are all very good GLBT role models.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Wooo!

    Just spotted a couple of photos of JuicyJack :P
    Excellent role model for having started this thread...
    Blah blah blah, something enigmatic sounding...

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    ^
    Yes indeed! Jack was SO juicy
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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Best: Rachel Maddow, Wanda Sykes

    Worst: Perez Hilton, Lindsay Graham

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Best: Guido Westerwelle, former Foreign Minister and Vice Chancellor of Germany.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_Westerwelle
    Last edited by LatimerRd; April 14th, 2013 at 05:42 PM.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Quote Originally Posted by LatimerRd View Post
    Best: Guido Westerwelle, former Foreign Minister and Vice Chancellor of Germany.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_Westerwelle


    In order to be a role model people have to actually know who you are in order to emulate you.

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Fuck Andy Cohen. He can DiaF for subjecting the world to "housewives".

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    Re: Best and worst role model for the LGBT Community?

    Peraonally. For me.

    Best: Danny Roberts and Chris Colfer.

    Worst: Adam Lambert.

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