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    Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    Now before your blow me over with liberal poo about acceptance and love, etc., I am by no means stating that the people who decide to live their lives like this or change their bodies have no right to do so, or that they deserve to be harassed for being different. I just think it's really bizarre. First of all, gender might be one thing that is variable, but sex is absolutely a random act of nature that is brought about by whether the x or y sperm "makes it first." So the logic that "I should have been born a male" as in "with a dick" fails: nobody "should have been" born anything, it just happened.

    I guess what really pushed me over the ledge into thinking it's bizarre was when I finally took a dive and watched a FtM porn. I found it really weird I mean, you aren't jerking off, you're rubbing an oversized clit: you're still a woman, no matter what you say or do.

    Now I know people will say "at one time, many thought homosexuality was a mental disorder." But the thing is, homosexuality has been practiced since the beginning of written history. It was only considered bizarre with the simultaneous arrival of the Victorian Era and the Second Great Awakening which created this mindset.

    I don't know, but this whole thing seems a little odd to me I guess. Please don't hate me

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    No, I don't.
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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    No I don't and they no more chose to be who they are than you did if your gay.

    If your str8 then your comments are understandable.

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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    I'm sure they might find me weird for any number of reasons.

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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    Quote Originally Posted by LikesDudes2 View Post
    sex is absolutely a random act of nature that is brought about by whether the x or y sperm "makes it first." So the logic that "I should have been born a male" as in "with a dick" fails: nobody "should have been" born anything, it just happened.

    All embryos start out as female in the womb. At a certain point during pregnancy, some embryos are instructed to convert into the male form: brain, genitals, etc. Sometimes, this transformation doesn't work properly, and it can cause the person to either be intersexed (malformed genitalia that's neither fully a penis nor a vagina), or effectively a female brain in a male body, or vice versa.


    Male-to-Female Transsexuals Have Female Neuron Numbers in a Limbic Nucleus


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    Now I know people will say "at one time, many thought homosexuality was a mental disorder."

    Incorrect; as i've just told you, it's a physical birth defect. Sure, being transgendered can screw a person up emotionally, especially with people like you around, but that's mostly caused by society and their families hating, rejecting, bullying and physically harming them. . .just like with homophobia and gay people.




    But the thing is, homosexuality has been practiced since the beginning of written history. It was only considered bizarre with the simultaneous arrival of the Victorian Era and the Second Great Awakening which created this mindset.

    1) This isn't true; Queens of Egypt and Emperors of Rome showed signs of transgenderism. This was thousands of years ago.


    2) Being closeted does not mean "doesn't exist." It would be like saying that gay people didn't exist in America until the 1960s, when people began coming out in protest. Even today, many transgendered people hide their condition out of fear of rejection, bashing or being killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomenclature View Post
    All embryos start out as female in the womb. At a certain point during pregnancy, some embryos are instructed to convert into the male form: brain, genitals, etc. Sometimes, this transformation doesn't work properly, and it can cause the person to either be intersexed (malformed genitalia that's neither fully a penis nor a vagina), or effectively a female brain in a male body, or vice versa.


    Male-to-Female Transsexuals Have Female Neuron Numbers in a Limbic Nucleus


    Transexual Differences Caught On Brain Scan









    Incorrect; as i've just told you, it's a physical birth defect. Sure, being transgendered can screw a person up emotionally, especially with people like you around, but that's mostly caused by society and their families hating, rejecting, bullying and physically harming them. . .just like with homophobia and gay people.







    1) This isn't true; Queens of Egypt and Emperors of Rome showed signs of transgenderism. This was thousands of years ago.


    2) Being closeted does not mean "doesn't exist." It would be like saying that gay people didn't exist in America until the 1960s, when people began coming out in protest. Even today, many transgendered people hide their condition out of fear of rejection, bashing or being killed.
    People like me around? It's so funny how people like you are open minded to everything around you, except people with opposite opinions of you.

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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    I know one 't.g.' who isn't just content to be a 't.g.' but who insists on discussing it in EVERY conversation.

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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    Honestly, I don't give a fuck what people do if it isn't compromising anyone else's human rights.

    Instead of trying to identify with people who think transexualism is weird, why not try to understand why it isn't weird?

    It doesn't have to turn you on, but links like the ones Nomenclature have shared might help you empathize.

    Good luck!

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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    for me, (not to be offensive at all nor be judgmental)
    i find transgendered and transsexual to be weird to a point i am grossed out.
    i do not know why people spend thousands of dollars to change their sex and i don't know it fucking grosses me out.
    Not the people just the idea.
    For me, i think people should be comfortable in their own skin.
    People should just be happy and make the best of what you are born either man or women; you shouldn't get a sex change.
    i compare it with parents who want to change the genes of their children before they are born. You know, you could get your kid to be tall, any eye color, and whatever else. i find that wrong because i believe the pre- newborn baby loses his identity. I just find it wrong.
    But what do i know? im just a 19 year old. I hope i was respectful to everyone and didn't offend anyone and if i did, i apologize because that was not my intent.

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    Is there anyone on this fucking internet who cares in any way about respecting others? Hell, about any good manners?

    What's the point of saying that you find any group of people "weird" or "annoying"? All it does is make you look like a douche. Also, you gotta love how LikesDudes goes on and on about how gross he thinks transexuals are, but is so offended when someone says "people like you". Didn't like that? Well, neither did the group of people you just treated like shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyroad View Post
    ... respecting others...
    Are you a Christian or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyroad View Post
    Is there anyone on this fucking internet who cares in any way about respecting others? Hell, about any good manners?

    What's the point of saying that you find any group of people "weird" or "annoying"? All it does is make you look like a douche. Also, you gotta love how LikesDudes goes on and on about how gross he thinks transexuals are, but is so offended when someone says "people like you". Didn't like that? Well, neither did the group of people you just treated like shit.
    I didn't say they were gross, I said it was bizarre. And when did I treat a group of people like shit? Quit whining.

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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    Well i will be honest. I'm gay, asian and was raised conservative. I was not a fan of trannies. I found them to be a big disgusting, taboo and made me feel weird.

    But as I grew up, I kept looking into the tranny world more and I became more liberal.

    And now it's been many years since discovering trannies and I find them pretty and exotic. when i watch porn, i like to go to tube8 and watch hot men do the trannies.

    but i would never date someone who is transgendered. I find them to be my competition because I'm pretty, slim, smooth and asian.

    i identitfy most trannies as bottoms. it's weird to see them fuck the hot men.

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    I'm with you OP. Now I'll preface this with I absolutely 100% support anyone's right to live the way they are happiest. And I accept the only reason I think it's weird may well be because I don't know enough about it, but everytime I ask this I just get called a biggot without anyone refuting my points or giving me an explanation other than "but how they feel on the inside should be what they look like on the outside" with no justification. Which is why I'm saying this, I welcome refutal.

    Gender and sex are independant of each other. How you feel inside is your personality, and it has nothign to do with your physical appearance . On top of that, gender roles are really just constructs of society. So why is it that because someone thinks or enjoys things that are generally seen to be female roles in our society, that that they should be physically female or make themselves so? Or vice versa? Your body and your mind aren't the same thing. One can be biologically male, physically male and act in ways completely considered female in a specific society. Nothing wrong with it whatsoever. There's nothing to say a biological male can't fulfill female gender roles, but that doesn't change their physical body, or what their physical body "should be", because your physical body has no relevance to your personality or what you can or can't do or think.

    Obviously, if someone feels like they are female "gendered" (which is a social construct, i.e is due to them growing up in this society and percieving stereotypes. Take away society and gender means fuck all, it isn't "real" in that aspect), there's nothing wrong with them doing whatever they want to their body to "match" that. But why do they feel that how they think or act is specifically male or female? And why do they feel they need to look a certain way to act a certain way? Why not just be yourself, physically you look like however you look like, and act however you feel like acting. Instead of playing up to outdated gender roles and assuming you need to look physically female to "act female".

    Doing things that are considered by some, in a specific society, to be male or female, doesn't make you male or female. Your biology does, and you can't change your biology. You do and act the way you are happy with no concern over how you look. Would a mtf or ftm change their body back if they moved to a hypothetical society with completely different gender roles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevexxx View Post
    for me, (not to be offensive at all nor be judgmental)
    i find transgendered and transsexual to be weird to a point i am grossed out.
    i do not know why people spend thousands of dollars to change their sex and i don't know it fucking grosses me out.
    Not the people just the idea.
    For me, i think people should be comfortable in their own skin.
    People should just be happy and make the best of what you are born either man or women; you shouldn't get a sex change.
    i compare it with parents who want to change the genes of their children before they are born. You know, you could get your kid to be tall, any eye color, and whatever else. i find that wrong because i believe the pre- newborn baby loses his identity. I just find it wrong.
    But what do i know? im just a 19 year old. I hope i was respectful to everyone and didn't offend anyone and if i did, i apologize because that was not my intent.
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    Have you guys ever seen a movie titled TransAmerica? Felicity Huffman was the protagonist alongside some strapping lad. It is pretty good. I doubt the family unit depicted in the film could be considered typical, but I don't think it could be considered uncommon either. And there are always isolated elements or dynamics in the relationships that are perhaps more easy to relate to than the portrayed lives as a whole. I guess my point is that it might touch you unexpectedly in a way that has nothing to do with transgenderism, so I guess I'm trying to get you to watch it. ANYway...

    I have known some transgendered folks. The idea never really made sense to me (apart from dictionary / text book definition), because I cannot relate, but it seems feasible enough to me. If I were to have been born a woman or to become a woman, I don't think I'd be any more or less happy than I am now (emphasis on the less). I think it'd be cool to have tits and a twat. (I'd probably never stop playing with them.)

    It seems like I don't have anything nutritional to say, so I'll cut to the chase. In a broader sense, I can somewhat understand the desire--or even need--to have one's sex reassigned. For example, once, when I was rough-housing in my youth, I fell on my bed, missed the mattress, and smashed my face on the headboard. Broken nose. It didn't get looked at, and now I have a deviated septum, which is only really (but always) noticeable in photographs. This is something that bothers me almost daily, because it takes away from what has otherwise been proclaimed to be a model's build and physiognomy.

    I understand and would certainly agree that transgenderism is a graver condition. My point is at the parallel: that both are issues with self-identity. I know I won't have peace in my own body until I see (can afford) the doctor sometime in the next decade, so I can imagine that others might experience similar conflicts with self.

    But, yeah... sex change = not for me. I like my JOYstick too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves Grey View Post
    …But, yeah... sex change = not for me. I like my JOYstick too much.
    But the loud 't.g.' that I know says 95% of them demand 100% recognition as 't.g's but don't actually go all the way and have the JOYstick removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    But the loud 't.g.' that I know says 95% of them demand 100% recognition as 't.g's but don't actually go all the way and have the JOYstick removed.
    Hrm... Boobs on top, balls on the bottom... :

    I kid. More like:

    I dunno. I can understand that, though. Having my little guy "reconditioned" such that he is never again recognizable as his original self doesn't sound that great to me. I've always identified with him, or felt like I was he and he was I--or a part of, anyway.

    I guess the cack 'n balls are easy enough to stash, anyway. I sometimes pull mine between my legs and do my best to make a crease as a joke. I've always wanted to do that and flash traffic... but I'm too much of a prude.

    ANYway, if I had a sex change, I would imagine it might be difficult to have a relationship with a straight male, which might leave me with folks who were particularly compassionate or empathetic toward transgenderism, or who found it attractive or arousing. Why give up my dick if not to net a man who doesn't find another man attractive (unless to feel comfortable with myself, which is arguably infinitely more important). But that's just a personal standpoint.

    Still, "chick with dick" is an interesting concept--and, I'm sure, a reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    I think the whole transgendered thing is a little weird but whatever its all good. What really annoyed me though was when oprah had the "pregnant man" on her show. When they called that thing a man that really pushed my buttons. Taken testosterone and cutting off your tits doesn't make you a man sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LikesDudes2 View Post
    I didn't say they were gross, I said it was bizarre. And when did I treat a group of people like shit? Quit whining.
    Yes, because calling a group of people "bizarre" is not at all treating them like shit... are you being serious?

    Look, you can't come in, say that a group of people weirds you out, and then expect others to not hate you because of it. You just portrayed yourself as an ignorant douche - sorry, but it's a fact. You may call it "politically correct" all you want, but I'd say it's more accurately described as "good manners": if you want people to like you, don't talk shit about others. Some thoughts are best kept to yourself.

    Also, you should work on your transgender issues if you want to avoid further embarassment in the future. It's only an advice, of course, you can take it or leave it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyroad View Post
    Yes, because calling a group of people "bizarre" is not at all treating them like shit... are you being serious?

    Look, you can't come in, say that a group of people weirds you out, and then expect others to not hate you because of it. You just portrayed yourself as an ignorant douche - sorry, but it's a fact. You may call it "politically correct" all you want, but I'd say it's more accurately described as "good manners": if you want people to like you, don't talk shit about others. Some thoughts are best kept to yourself.

    Also, you should work on your transgender issues if you want to avoid further embarassment in the future. It's only an advice, of course, you can take it or leave it.
    I'm going to opt to leave your advice. You seem like a huge, uptight, tool.

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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    I'm more concerned why anyone would say "I felt I could never be myself" until they had implants and surgery and lessons to rehearse how to "pass" at being themselves.

    Everyone who woke up this morning is being themselves.

    I have a lot of unanswered questions about the advice given to and the dialogue around transsexualism because I think a lot of it might be rooted in outdated identity politics rather than medical necessity. I think we need less adherence to socially enforced gender roles, not a binary choice between only two gender roles.

    The worst thing, and the most common thing, I've ever heard about gender is the idea of "the opposite sex." The sexes are not opposite, and they shouldn't define us, or redefine us, or reclaim us, or let us be reborn.

    If you're a woman born with a penis, be proud of it. If you're a man born with boobs, enjoy them. I'm not a big believer in cosmetic surgery, and even less a believer that someone has to have surgery as a precondition for being themselves.
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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    I don't find anything weird about the feelings of transgendered people. It's not that hard to empathize with if you really think about something in your own life that feels off or wrong, something you so would change if you could. You don't have to be transgendered to feel like something about your life or yourself doesn't fit with who you truly feel like, or look like. I just have never had a problem understanding just about anything other people go through. Not much in the way of feelings is weird to me.

    When it comes to how a trans man or woman might look, well yeah if the transition isn't convincing it does look strange. I don't find most cross dressers attractive and sometimes a trans woman or man can put a lot of work into becoming what they feel is their true sex and still look like an awkward cross dresser. But that's just a visual preference on my part and it doesn't say jack shit about who the person is inside.

    As far as porn I am soooo not into "chicks with dicks". I tried looking at it like I try to look at most stuff and it is stomach turning. There ain't a damn thing appealing about some stiff ass fake tits, a cock, an a five o'clock shadow to me! Sorry.

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    After reading other posts where people shared their views on transgenders, I decided that maybe I should share mine...

    From what I understand, being transgender is not just an aesthetic choice, it's a matter of identity. They actually feel like they were "born in the wrong body" and it makes them feel out of place all the time. It's not like a gay man that woke up one day and decided he would go one step further from his drag costume, it's a deeper issue. And there are enough people in the same situation for us to conclude that it exists and that they should be respected.

    Someone mentioned that "gender roles are a construct of society" and that's true, but reading about transgenders made me believe that there's also a "gender identity" in all of us.

    For example: there were times when I thought I'd make a kick-ass girl, but it never went beyond that. I strongly identify myself as a male and wouldn't change that if given the choice. Also, in video games when you could choose the gender of the character you control, I'd flirt with the idea of choosing the girl... but I never went through with it. It felt wrong. Games where the main character is a girl are a different story, but when I can build my own avatar, I'm a male through and through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyroad View Post

    For example: there were times when I thought I'd make a kick-ass girl, but it never went beyond that. I strongly identify myself as a male and wouldn't change that if given the choice. Also, in video games when you could choose the gender of the character you control, I'd flirt with the idea of choosing the girl... but I never went through with it. It felt wrong. Games where the main character is a girl are a different story, but when I can build my own avatar, I'm a male through and through.
    That's funny cuz I played a MMORPG years ago, Star Wars Galaxies! Before I ever made my own avatar I made one for my sister, a girl character. We put so much time into her and me trying to help her learn the ropes that when she dropped the character less than a week later I just stuck with it. I had created a couple other male characters but never got around to using them.

    I totally loved my avatar afterawhile but it WAS a strange feeling at first. I mean I've played female characters in games, hell I love me some Chun Li, but it's totally not the same thing. I later on found out that over half of the female avatars in MMOs are played by men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatdidyousay View Post
    That's funny cuz I played a MMORPG years ago, Star Wars Galaxies! Before I ever made my own avatar I made one for my sister, a girl character. We put so much time into her and me trying to help her learn the ropes that when she dropped the character less than a week later I just stuck with it. I had created a couple other male characters but never got around to using them.

    I totally loved my avatar afterawhile but it WAS a strange feeling at first. I mean I've played female characters in games, hell I love me some Chun Li, but it's totally not the same thing. I later on found out that over half of the female avatars in MMOs are played by men.
    Well, your case is understandable, when you spend so long creating a character, you can't help but bond with it! lol

    But what you said about female avatars in MMOs being played by men is very true. I think those are players that can detach their selves from their characters. Similar to those who put ridiculous names in their characters, like "PENIS", or something... Me, I can't help putting my self in my avatar: it needs to be male and it needs to bear my name.

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    Hmmm... I find them really, really sexually creepy and unatractive, but that's something extremely personal that I don't go spreading off from within in my social life. I know some and there's really nothing special on the way I move with transexuals in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyroad View Post
    Well, your case is understandable, when you spend so long creating a character, you can't help but bond with it! lol

    But what you said about female avatars in MMOs being played by men is very true. I think those are players that can detach their selves from their characters. Similar to those who put ridiculous names in their characters, like "PENIS", or something... Me, I can't help putting my self in my avatar: it needs to be male and it needs to bear my name.
    on a side note:
    there is nothing sexier than a hot chick playing video games.

    Back to the topic: i agree with you self inflicted

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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    Quote Originally Posted by NineOfClubs View Post
    I'm sure they might find me weird for any number of reasons.
    I feel like I'm in the same situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomenclature View Post
    Incorrect; as i've just told you, it's a physical birth defect. Sure, being transgendered can screw a person up emotionally, especially with people like you around, but that's mostly caused by society and their families hating, rejecting, bullying and physically harming them. . .just like with homophobia and gay people..
    Didn't the early versions of the DSM classify homosexuality as a mental disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by elvin1 View Post
    They sure have more bravery than most of us and I respect them.
    This is very true. They have enough bravery to state who they feel they really are in public despite what others may think.

    I don't know. They are different, but I wouldn't shun them away. I haven't met a transexual or transgendered person. But they're people too. As long as what they're doing doesn't hurt themselves or others, I'm fine with it.
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    I was at the gym once, and this woman was on the elliptical next to me, making motorcycle noises.

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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    I don't think it's weird at all. I've read so much about transgenderism that I can completely understand what they go through and by no means I think they're any different than the rest of us, they're just carrying the cross God gave them just like we are. In our case it is accepting our homosexuality and having to deal with everything that comes with it; in their case is being born in the wrong body and having to deal with that.

    Ps: There's A LOT of transmen out there who are really hot, I made a thread about that in the past.

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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    Quote Originally Posted by whatdidyousay View Post
    I don't find anything weird about the feelings of transgendered people. It's not that hard to empathize with if you really think about something in your own life that feels off or wrong, something you so would change if you could. You don't have to be transgendered to feel like something about your life or yourself doesn't fit with who you truly feel like, or look like. I just have never had a problem understanding just about anything other people go through. Not much in the way of feelings is weird to me.

    When it comes to how a trans man or woman might look, well yeah if the transition isn't convincing it does look strange. I don't find most cross dressers attractive and sometimes a trans woman or man can put a lot of work into becoming what they feel is their true sex and still look like an awkward cross dresser. But that's just a visual preference on my part and it doesn't say jack shit about who the person is inside.

    As far as porn I am soooo not into "chicks with dicks". I tried looking at it like I try to look at most stuff and it is stomach turning. There ain't a damn thing appealing about some stiff ass fake tits, a cock, an a five o'clock shadow to me! Sorry.
    Totally, agreed. Being transgendered--or anything for that matter--unless you willfully harm or oppress others--doesn't detract from your humanity. We all have things we'd like to change about ourselves, usually about our image. As you mention, this is often rooted much deeper than the superficiality of the flesh.

    Quote Originally Posted by easyroad View Post
    After reading other posts where people shared their views on transgenders, I decided that maybe I should share mine...

    From what I understand, being transgender is not just an aesthetic choice, it's a matter of identity. They actually feel like they were "born in the wrong body" and it makes them feel out of place all the time. It's not like a gay man that woke up one day and decided he would go one step further from his drag costume, it's a deeper issue. And there are enough people in the same situation for us to conclude that it exists and that they should be respected.

    Someone mentioned that "gender roles are a construct of society" and that's true, but reading about transgenders made me believe that there's also a "gender identity" in all of us.

    For example: there were times when I thought I'd make a kick-ass girl, but it never went beyond that. I strongly identify myself as a male and wouldn't change that if given the choice. Also, in video games when you could choose the gender of the character you control, I'd flirt with the idea of choosing the girl... but I never went through with it. It felt wrong. Games where the main character is a girl are a different story, but when I can build my own avatar, I'm a male through and through.
    I certainly agree that we each have a gender identity. I think that this is often overlooked or forgotten when there isn't a conflict there that continually draws attention to its presence within us. I believe that it's conflicts, pressure, that brings about the purest and most extensive growth. This I think is the only positive aspect of war.
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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    I know a tranny, and shes fucken dope, knew her when she was a man, and yeah, it was a shock when I saw her, but her physical appearance didnt matter to me, cos she is just such an amazing person. Her boobs nor dick define who she is as a person.

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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    ^^^
    Nice -- so far, this is the closest thing we've had to an actual TG-person sharing their opinion.

    Nice

    And I agree.

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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    Quote Originally Posted by kooman View Post
    I know a tranny, and shes fucken dope, knew her when she was a man, and yeah, it was a shock when I saw her, but her physical appearance didnt matter to me, cos she is just such an amazing person. Her boobs nor dick define who she is as a person.
    Except for a transsexual, having boobs or a dick often does define how they feel about who they are as people!
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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    I know a trans female-to-male. Met her in college when she was known as a woman but in two years she was living as a male. Very cool cat. He dated a friend of mine who didn't know she was born a woman but she stayed with him even after he told her the truth.

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    Re: Does anyone else find transsexual/transgender/etc. weird?

    No, not at all. I don't see how you can ignore the fact that many of the ideas you have about transgender people were in fact applied to queers. Being persecuted for who you are is not something I am fond of, and it's sort of fucking annoying that gay people can call it disgusting and look down upon. You don't have to be into sexually, but who are you to judge someone's sexual preferences, gender identity, etc.?

    They are in the same boat as the rest of us queers, only their lives are much more difficult. How much courage and bravery do you think it takes to admit, and live your life out the way they do?

    Sexuality, gender, and identity are all very confusing, but no one should be made fun of for what they like if it isn't hurting anyone else.

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