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    Re: A song of ice and fire: HBO's Game of Thrones

    Quote Originally Posted by Native Son View Post
    It's gratuitous that's for sure. But it doesn't bother me in the least. I guess I'm pervy like that. (And I would never, ever refer to it as "raging heterosexuality." Oy.

    I'm chalking it up to damned if you do and damned if you don't. (I just thank the makers that they're so goddamned damned.)
    ^ lol, The fact that the sex scenes are heterosexual in nature doesn't bother me.

    It's just...getting to be TOO graphic. Like in S2 ep 2, was it really necessary to show:
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    One of Little Finger's prostitutes with cum dripping out of her mouth? Right before she kisses some old dude?

    That and to me a lot of the scenes involving women being raped/coerced into sex/being mistreated during sex are filmed in a way that seems like they're meant to titillate. Like they're a misogynist's wet dreams come to life. It's so gross to me.

    As for the basic nudity, it would be more tolerable if it were equal-opportunity, but it's really not. Why can't the straight women and gay men get some decent fan service, too?

    I'm not amused, tbh. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatgirl View Post
    ^ lol, The fact that the sex scenes are heterosexual in nature doesn't bother me.

    It's just...getting to be TOO graphic. Like in S2 ep 2, was it really necessary to show:
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    One of Little Finger's prostitutes with cum dripping out of her mouth? Right before she kisses some old dude?

    That and to me a lot of the scenes involving women being raped/coerced into sex/being mistreated during sex are filmed in a way that seems like they're meant to titillate. Like they're a misogynist's wet dreams come to life. It's so gross to me.

    As for the basic nudity, it would be more tolerable if it were equal-opportunity, but it's really not. Why can't the straight women and gay men get some decent fan service, too?

    I'm not amused, tbh. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
    I haven't seen S2 Ep 2, but from what you describe... Oh, my. Hmm.

    And I have to agree that coercion and rape are when things start to get weird. That's not kosher.

    It's certainly true that the gratuitous nudity is not gender equal, but I will say that I've seen more full-frontal male (split-second glimpse or not) than I bargained for, so there is that.

    I guess we'll have to see where it all goes, but I am sensitive to your apprehension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Native Son View Post
    I haven't seen S2 Ep 2, but from what you describe... Oh, my. Hmm.
    LOL. Yeah, going by some of the reactions I've read online, even some of the guys were like..."erm, lol what." So unnecessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Native Son View Post
    It's certainly true that the gratuitous nudity is not gender equal, but I will say that I've seen more full-frontal male (split-second glimpse or not) than I bargained for, so there is that.
    Full-frontal: Theon and the weird giant pale ugly guy, right? That's all I can remember. I kind of don't want to remember. And Jason Momoa had some (non frontal) nudity. That was welcome.

    The sex scenes have been mostly hetero. The same-sex scenes...Loras & Renly was very tame. But the lesbian stuff has, unsurprisingly, been quite the opposite and geared towards a straight male gaze: both involved straight women, one was about how to please a man and the other was about Littlefinger coaching his prostitutes.

    It's really obvious who the fan service is primarily for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Native Son View Post
    I guess we'll have to see where it all goes, but I am sensitive to your apprehension.
    Haha, thanks. I think sometimes I just need to vent about it. But I do enjoy the show. And yeah, we'll see how it goes. Maybe it'll get better on that front.

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    Yeah, I'll have to watch again but my BF was distracting me while I attempted to explain the story line.

    It should be noted that nearly all the "nude" shots are technically fake or rather they used "enhanced features".

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    They go further on the tv show than they do in the book. In the book, it is just suggested that Renly might have a lover. I believe that will be the last gay relationship on the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohiospeedo View Post
    They go further on the tv show than they do in the book. In the book, it is just suggested that Renly might have a lover. I believe that will be the last gay relationship on the show.
    Suggested is a bit of an understatement. Implied is the better word. When Stannis and Renly meet up before the battle, I hope they save the famous quib for TV...

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    Renly: ...I got Margaery. You’ll be pleased to know she came to me a maid.

    Stannis: In your bed she’s like to die that way.

    Tyrion isn't the only character with great one-liners.

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    GoT renewed for a third season. I wonder if we will get to RW now. It was rumored that the renewal took so long is because many persons' contracts are up after season 3 and if they split SoS into 2 seasons, well, it's not all rosy. The other option was to extend season 3 to say 13 or 14 episodes but HBO ruled against that.

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    Well they went further last night with the gay kiss. Still loving this season. Can't wait for it to get further into the plot though. Feels like everything is just being set up right now.

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    I loved the scene with Renly and Loras. I actually felt more comfortable watching them than I do watching the softcore porn scenes with the straight characters. Also, I am in love with both Margaery and Brienne. Brienne is almost exactly how I pictured her in my head, and I cannot wait to see her develop in the coming weeks. I love how we got to meet Margaery in this episode. Anyone who has read the books would already know that her involvement in the storyline is a bit premature. But in all honesty, I don't mind. She brought home the fact that though Renly stands in good favor with his men, his claim (and hers, as well) to power is tenuous at best. Plus the whole thing with her suggesting that Loras get involved with their consummation really made my night.


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    I liked most of the episode last nite but OMG WTH are they doing to Littlefinger? He is just all over the place. What happened to the quiet yet graceful manipulator from the books?

    I do like the casting of Brianne and look forward to her arc through the next few seasons.

    I'm indifferent to the whole Loras/Renly thing.

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    I'm just glad it ends after this season.

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    This is sorta late, but I still can't believe they killed Rakharo off so early in the series. Pretty lame.

    As for last night's ep, I'm ready for Cersei to get hers. I couldn't stand her from the very first time she made an appearance.

    But the Ser Loras and Renly scenes are always hot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatgirl View Post
    LOL. Yeah, going by some of the reactions I've read online, even some of the guys were like..."erm, lol what." So unnecessary.



    Full-frontal: Theon and the weird giant pale ugly guy, right? That's all I can remember. I kind of don't want to remember. And Jason Momoa had some (non frontal) nudity. That was welcome.

    The sex scenes have been mostly hetero. The same-sex scenes...Loras & Renly was very tame. But the lesbian stuff has, unsurprisingly, been quite the opposite and geared towards a straight male gaze: both involved straight women, one was about how to please a man and the other was about Littlefinger coaching his prostitutes.

    It's really obvious who the fan service is primarily for.



    Haha, thanks. I think sometimes I just need to vent about it. But I do enjoy the show. And yeah, we'll see how it goes. Maybe it'll get better on that front.

    Oh, they're so screwing with us.

    And yet...I'm still glued to the screen.
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    Another awesome episode. I wonder if they are going to show any battles though...I get it that is expensive to produce, but it is also critical to the story.

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    Great episode! This show is getting better and better!

    I'm kinda sad though that Renly was killed by that Stanis-shaped black cloud. A gay king on the Iron Throne could have been quite interesting. With the agreement between Cat an Renly just before he was killed a very powerful alliance had been struck and also a relatively reasonable one. Unfortunately that didn't happen. I'm wondering if we'll see Loras again. Loved the scene with Cat and Brienne where they both vowed to stick together.

    Arya was great as always. With that guy promising her three killings of her choice she has a powerful weapon at hand. She kinda wasted the first one but she's got a long list of people who have wronged her family. Who's going to be next?

    Jon Snow is usually one of my favorite characters but this week his story was still being setup and therefore relatively lame.

    I didn't really understand what Tyrion was getting at. Now he knows his sister's and Joffrey's defence plan and he told the alchemist that only he and nobody else would be using those wildfire things - so?

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    Re: A song of ice and fire: HBO's Game of Thrones

    Great, the only character I liked (Other than Kit harrington's character) is dead.

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    > Loved the scene with Cat and Brienne where they both vowed to stick together.

    Do they eventually become lovers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nondescript View Post
    > Loved the scene with Cat and Brienne where they both vowed to stick together.

    Do they eventually become lovers?
    Quick spoiler: No, Brienne and Catelyn do not become lovers.

    Quote Originally Posted by axlwhity View Post
    Great episode! This show is getting better and better!

    I'm kinda sad though that Renly was killed by that Stanis-shaped black cloud. A gay king on the Iron Throne could have been quite interesting. With the agreement between Cat an Renly just before he was killed a very powerful alliance had been struck and also a relatively reasonable one. Unfortunately that didn't happen. I'm wondering if we'll see Loras again. Loved the scene with Cat and Brienne where they both vowed to stick together.

    I didn't really understand what Tyrion was getting at. Now he knows his sister's and Joffrey's defence plan nd he told the alchemist that only he and nobody else would be using those wildfire things - so?
    First, yes we will see Loras again. His and Margaery's story isn't quite done yet.

    Second, wildfire is extremely volatile. Mishandled, it could destroy all of King's Landing even before the enemy forces set sail. To leave that kind of power in the hands of Joffrey and Cersei would be completely illogical, and probably fatal.

    Now, on another note, did anyone think that Arya was checking Gendry out just a little bit (I know I was)? I mean, she is a growing girl. The books never touch on it, but I always imagined that when the time was right, the two of them would be good together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neoachilles View Post
    First, yes we will see Loras again. His and Margaery's story isn't quite done yet.
    Great! I love Loras! I guessed that Margaery's story would be going on. She's shrewd and really knows what she wants. If she actually would like to become "the Queen" in the near future as she told Littlefinger she currrently has three options:

    - marrying Stanis who -- with the help of a witch -- killed her husband (bad idea)
    - teaming up with the Lannisters and marrying that complete lunatic Joffrey (very bad idea)
    - marrying Robb (don't know what I'd think about that)

    Quote Originally Posted by neoachilles View Post
    Now, on another note, did anyone think that Arya was checking Gendry out just a little bit (I know I was)? I mean, she is a growing girl. The books never touch on it, but I always imagined that when the time was right, the two of them would be good together
    I was wondering the same. He's hot! Arya is probably still a little too young for him though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axlwhity View Post
    Great! I love Loras! I guessed that Margaery's story would be going on. She's shrewd and really knows what she wants. If she actually would like to become "the Queen" in the near future as she told Littlefinger she currrently has three options:

    - marrying Stanis who -- with the help of a witch -- killed her husband (bad idea)
    - teaming up with the Lannisters and marrying that complete lunatic Joffrey (very bad idea)
    - marrying Robb (don't know what I'd think about that)


    I was wondering the same. He's hot! Arya is probably still a little too young for him though.
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    One of those options almost happens in the books and technically does.

    Gendry was smoking which I guess made up for the lack of female nudity in this episode.

    I'm a bit peeved over the swapping of Roose for Tywin at Harrenhal. Also having Arya not kill Tickler was disappointing because that was a great scene in STORM OF SWORDS!!!! Ugh, all this out place stuff is a bit annoying but some plot lines like Arya's can be fudged a bit as she's a bit isolated from the rest like dany's and jon's. Maisie as Arya is fucking brilliant and can even steal the scene away from Charles Dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalFudge View Post
    Great, the only character I liked (Other than Kit harrington's character) is dead.
    this show has many and will have many characters. there will always be characters that you like and characters that die. no hero is safe here. it's something that makes this series stand out.


    Tywin in Harrenhall I can live with .. it's a bit out of place though
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    and clegane still has the possibility to make this place a mess for jaimie's visit
    but yes .. not enough Arya action

    Gotta love Gendry though oh .. and arya is .. 10 - and not interested in boys or knights in the books there was a funny scene when gendry discovered her real gender where he is embarassed that he "peed" in front of her. wish i had seen that
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    @ Corny

    No love for the token German actor who plays Jaqen?

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    S2 needs to get more interesting asap. It has been so boring thus far. :/

    I have basically forced myself through some of the recent episodes so I don't fall behind. S1 started off slow, too, but it wasn't this bad. So much talking and scheming, not enough action. I wish they'd focus more on Daenerys and Jon Snow. They're the only interesting storylines at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neoachilles View Post
    Quick spoiler: No, Brienne and Catelyn do not become lovers.
    There is a vaguely sexual vibe to their interaction. I'm pretty sure they are going to hook up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatgirl View Post
    S2 needs to get more interesting asap. It has been so boring thus far. :/

    I have basically forced myself through some of the recent episodes so I don't fall behind. S1 started off slow, too, but it wasn't this bad. So much talking and scheming, not enough action. I wish they'd focus more on Daenerys and Jon Snow. They're the only interesting storylines at the moment.
    Yeah it should get interesting by the end. They are just setting things up. I think the 2nd half should be pretty intense.

    For those who read the books, I don't remember the dragons being taken. That is new, right?

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    I'm so jealous of Ygritte.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ohiospeedo View Post
    Yeah it should get interesting by the end. They are just setting things up. I think the 2nd half should be pretty intense.
    lol, Well I am trying to be patient. But it's good to know that things will get a lot more intense.

    I think I might just read up on spoilers although I'm not sure how closely the show is following the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nondescript View Post
    There is a vaguely sexual vibe to their interaction. I'm pretty sure they are going to hook up.
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    You're right. Her dragons never got taken. Somebody was negotiating taking one of the dragons for some ships to which she agreed then she had the dragon kill the man in the book. She took the ships and kept the dragons like a true boss! I don't like these stupid little changes they're making that don't make any sense.

    Little Finger being in the midst of everything is ridiculous too. He was in King's Landing pretty much the whole time in the book and he went off to marry Lysa Arryn. The majority of the show is sticking to the books though.
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    My guess is...

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    the warlocks took them which leads her to the house of the undying for her vision quest. She gets them back after and then torches the city to the ground.


    I will say, if Maisie (aka Arya) isn't nominated for an Emmy, I'll be very sad. She is just brilliant this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatgirl View Post
    I'm so jealous of Ygritte.


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    I received so much life from that scene. I love Kit Harrington so much.

    Gawd... So.....much.

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    in this episode they changed quite a bit compared to the books. not sure if i am happy with the dragons being taken. depends on how they resolve it .. or not.

    also .. who will get harrenhall now and what is that about the girl in the wolf's camp? [spoiler]if that is supposed to be jeyne westerling .. i don't get the change. her character is too unimportant and hardly mentioned in the books - despite the huge consequences. and there are so many characters already, why add this one?[/url]
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    i've seen every episode and now it's starting to get on my nerves. nothing ever gets resolved during 1 episode. it's like watching 1hr a week of a 20hr movie. i gets the set back of squeezing so many stories in one hour.

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    ^^^ - You would be even more frustrated if you read the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohiospeedo View Post
    ^^^ - You would be even more frustrated if you read the books.
    Totally. It's why so many people lambast A Dance With Dragons because it literally goes nowhere slowly and the book leaves more questions than it answers.

    @ Corny

    I dunno about Harrenhal but I know Osha got "amalgamated" with Jojen and Meera which was a good way to condense the cast. They also killed off Irri which is a bit interesting as she is still in the books. I will say, next Sunday, I will cream my pants when Brienne and Jamie meet for the first time. Even Nikolaj said it was his favorite scene he ever filmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    Totally. It's why so many people lambast A Dance With Dragons because it literally goes nowhere slowly and the book leaves more questions than it answers.

    @ Corny

    I dunno about Harrenhal but I know Osha got "amalgamated" with Jojen and Meera which was a good way to condense the cast. They also killed off Irri which is a bit interesting as she is still in the books. I will say, next Sunday, I will cream my pants when Brienne and Jamie meet for the first time. Even Nikolaj said it was his favorite scene he ever filmed.
    I was wondering what the heck had happened to the Reeds. That's really too bad, because I would have loved to see Meera and Jojen brought to life. They play such a big part in Bran's story, I'm disappointed they got rid of the characters in the show.

    As for Jaime and Brienne, I am sitting on pins and needles waiting for them to meet. I love the both of them in the books.

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    The writers are killing me this season with all the ridiculous changes. This past episode was full of pointless conversations that didn't even happen in the book! The conversations between Tywin and Aria seem too unrealistic. He's supposed to be fighting Rob instead of sitting there talking with Arya all the time. If they didn't waste time with all these useless conversations they could have had Jojen and Meera in the story and kept up with the real story.

    Dany already had a hard time making it through the desert but to have Irri and others killed and her dragons taken is fucking crazy lol! I don't understand how they can move forward with the rest of the books when they take out characters who are minor but still present. If they didn't wai

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    I hope this is the last season.

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    To be honest .. Dany's storyline in this book was fucking boring, except for the house .. that she most likely will visit this week. So far, those changes are ok with me. I just don't like that they slaughtered all her people.

    The harrenhal changes worry me more. The Arya-Tywin talk isn't inheritly bad, as it deepens Tywin, but still seems out of place. My guess is that they are trying to reduce the number of characters, to make it easier for people who didn't read the books.

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    the actors are incredible. I hope the child king and his hand gets some type of award. This last episode was a little weird. The hand acted as if he was going to hug his sister when she started crying but he kind of turned away the way my dog does when she has done something wrong. That scene was just odd.

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    Peter Dinklage (Tyrion Lannister, hand of the king) won an (well deserved) Emmy for his role last season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aberro21 View Post
    This last episode was a little weird. The hand acted as if he was going to hug his sister when she started crying but he kind of turned away the way my dog does when she has done something wrong. That scene was just odd.
    That was my favourite scene of the episode, they were both so awkward trying to open up to eachother. I thought it was really well done

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    With the Tyrion/Cersei dynamic a lot of fans are criticizing the show for humanizing Cersei (and Tywin too) which IMO is a better thing. It will soften her blow from grace but I find it more interesting that D&D are exploring the fact that Joffrey is just pure evil and how the other Lannisters deal with this horrible person. That is not really touched upon in the books, at least to my memory.

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    Even in the books, Tyrion basically admits to being like Jamie as a kingslayer "for the realm"

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    I always had a more "human" Tywin in mind. At least behind the surface. Cersei on the other hand ..

    Oh and Tyrion always knew how bad Joffrey is. I believe in aFoC even Kevan Lannister talks quite bad about him it at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aberro21 View Post
    I hope this is the last season.
    It was already renewed for a 3rd season a while back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corny View Post
    I always had a more "human" Tywin in mind. At least behind the surface. Cersei on the other hand ..

    Oh and Tyrion always knew how bad Joffrey is. I believe in aFoC even Kevan Lannister talks quite bad about him it at some point.
    I always pictured Tywin as cold and calculating. He does shift much of his blame to his children and not on himself which is probably why I think that. Cersci is a wannabe Tywin but she doesn't have all her marbles in the bag and as the books go on, more marbles fall out. To quote futurama: "deception's the curse of my whimsical gender".

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    So, Dan & Dave totally dropped the ball with Catelyn. In the books, Catelyn releases Jaime AFTER she discovers that Theon [supposedly] killed Bran and Rickon. That motive causes her to get her girls back at any cost. In the show, that is clearly not the case and that scene between Rob and Catelyn is a total wash and just completely out of character for Catelyn. It seems that many other reviewers who have read the books feel this has been the biggest faux pas yet in the series.

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    Re: A song of ice and fire: HBO's Game of Thrones

    ^ i don't get that change either. it would have been very easy to incorporate that. i'm glad that they made them hide in the crypts at least. and i love the portrayal of osha.

    but what bugged me most, was the silly love talk between rob and the wannabe jeyne, well at least we got a glimpse of robs sexy body

    and go to the fucking house of the undying already!

    all in all a calm episode, i liked the winterfell and davos scenes though oh and the thing between cersei and tyrion .. peter dinklage just being awesome, again.
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    This last episode was full of nonsense to me as I'm a hardcore Song of Ice and Fire nerd lol. I can't believe they did such a good job last season of sticking to the book but doing such a horrible job this season. I understand that the story is very long and they have to shorten it but that's all the more reason to not include stupid, time wasting scenes like Tywin and Arya being bff's, Dany losing her dragons and Rob's budding romance. None of those things happened and it's a big waste of time to me.

    Arya should have been cup bearing for Roose Bolton like in the books because Tywin was busy fighting battles. He did go to Harrenhal but he never spoke with her. Rob and Cat should be at Riverrun where they got word that Bran and Rickon are dead. I didn't like how rob had her put under guard like some criminal. I think it was her brother at Riverrun who wouldn't let her leave her room for a while, but Rob came and let her roam free.

    Dany should have already gone to the House of the Undying by now and should be getting ready to secure an army. I don't get why they are killing off characters who are still living in the books and omitting the others completely. There were so many characters that they didn't need to add any new ones either. I could go on and on because there are more things they are doing wrong that just don't make sense.

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    Maybe it's because I haven't read the books but I really can't complain much about this show. It's awesome! The last two episode (7+8) were a little lame but last night totally made up for that. I have never been a big Stanis fan and so I was hoping for his fleet to be obliterated and that's what happened. Loved that epic wildfire scene!!!

    Where does this leave everything before next week's finale? The Lanisters have won the battle against Stanis with the support of Loras and his troops. He probably wanted to avange Renly and get back at Stanis teaming up with his enemy. I would have liked it more though if Loras had joined Robb Stark. I haven't read any spoilers but I suspect that his sister will marry that crazy idiot (Joffrey) to become Queen. Where does this leave Sansa? She should have fled with the Hound when he offered to take her to Winterfell. I'm wondering if we'll see another big battle next week between the Lanisters on the one side and the Starks on the other. Robb wanted to take the Kingdom to avenge his father's murder. Even though we didn't see him this week I assume nothing has changed on that front...

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    @ axlwhity

    These are the "cliffhangers" for season 3...

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    - Joffrey dumps Sansa for Margaery Tyrell.

    - Dany gets her dragons back, lays waste to Qarth and moves onto Volantis (I think Volantis. Memory is fuzzy there).

    - Brianne and Jaime make their way back to King's Landing.

    - Rob continues to fight for the north and fall in love.

    - Bolton sacks Winterfell and takes Theon captive.

    - Jon Snow meets Mance Ryder and joins the Wildlings.

    - Bran, Rickon and Osha leave Winterfell for good and head north towards The Wall "for reals" after Bolton takes Winterfell.

    - Stannis goes back to being a pathetic sod while secretly regrouping his forces.

    -Arya leaves Harrenhal and goes on a fun adventure.

    Think that's all the major story lines. Most of these events have already been foreshadowed throughout season 2 except the first one which should play a role in the last episode.

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    Littlefinger was "Brian"/Stuart from QAF UK. Mind blown.

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    Re: A song of ice and fire: HBO's Game of Thrones

    Quote Originally Posted by axlwhity View Post
    Maybe it's because I haven't read the books but I really can't complain much about this show. It's awesome! The last two episode (7+8) were a little lame but last night totally made up for that. I have never been a big Stanis fan and so I was hoping for his fleet to be obliterated and that's what happened. Loved that epic wildfire scene!!!

    Where does this leave everything before next week's finale? The Lanisters have won the battle against Stanis with the support of Loras and his troops. He probably wanted to avange Renly and get back at Stanis teaming up with his enemy. I would have liked it more though if Loras had joined Robb Stark. I haven't read any spoilers but I suspect that his sister will marry that crazy idiot (Joffrey) to become Queen. Where does this leave Sansa? She should have fled with the Hound when he offered to take her to Winterfell. I'm wondering if we'll see another big battle next week between the Lanisters on the one side and the Starks on the other. Robb wanted to take the Kingdom to avenge his father's murder. Even though we didn't see him this week I assume nothing has changed on that front...
    Spoiler alert! Littlefinger in the book never talked to the Starks after Cat left King's Landing. He really went off to Highgarden where Loras and his sister is from and they went back home there after Renly was killed. Tywin came back with Highgarden and won the war at King's Landing. Joffrey is gonna call off his engagement with Sansa so he can marry Margaery but Sansa won't be allowed to leave still. She's still their hostage as long as her brother Rob is out there.

    This episode was really good despite the annoying little changes they make. The story A Clash of Kings was such a long one that they needed more than 10 episodes, maybe even another season, but they did a good job squeezing it all into 9 episodes so far. I guess the next one is gonna be all about Dany in the House of the Undying and her securing her army.

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