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    Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    Right

    So I enjoy the occasional bit of public nudity, and I came across this thread about boys pretty much all being expected to swim naked at school and college in the US and UK in the 1950s and 60s (even through the 1980s, some say), with clothed female spectators in attendance among other things, even at competitive meets and suchlike.

    In the thread, a furious flame war has erupted with most younger members believing this to be pure bollocks (pardon the pun). One guy said that even if you had to skip the swimming because of an injury and had to watch the phys-ed class from the sidelines, you had to do it "in uniform" which for the swim class was naked. Seems completely OTT to me, so I'm wondering - you guys who were at school and varsity in the 50s and 60s (or anytime), was organised nude swimming there as prevalent as some of these guys make out?

    I have read with interest several of these posts. I was a teacher's assistant in the mid 70's at a high school in the mid west. As an assistant, I would help out where asked. Several times I helped out in the pool for both the girls and boys gym class. It was always strictly forbidden for the girls and boys to be together. The boys were naked and the girls were not in class.
    It goes on for a few thousand posts, unfortunately, so I doubt anyone here will want to read the whole lot. I myself have only been reading from about 2100 posts in. I'm sure some of the posters in there are fantasising to an extent, but I wondered how much truth there was. I know the YMCA had nude swimming, but I didn't think schools did.

    Anyone care to comment? I'm intrigued.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    I went to school in the 60s and it was pretty much obsolete by then (except for optional skinny dipping at my all-male summer camp). But I believe that sort of thing was very common at in earlier years. Never heard of females being allowed to watch, though...

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    We didn't have a pool where I grew up and went to school. Even our high school didn't have a pool. As far as I know, there's still no public pool in that town.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    At the YMCA it was allowed, but not school.
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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    we didnt swim nude, but our PE instructor required that we all shower naked after that. I hated & loved it all at the same time. he was a perv tho.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    The YMCA I belonged to as a teen required all to swim in the pool naked to prevent lint from clogging the filter system. I also remember a nearby Navy Base which had an Olympic size pool and let our scout troops use it for swimming/life-saving merit badges and also had a requirement to swim naked (or maybe the sailors just wanted to watch naked teens!).

    We had a big gang shower room in our school gym. Remember a big jock at our school humping me for a few seconds, laughing when I dropped the soap (and remember not being offended!). Most had cleared out after track practice and he and I were the only two guys left in the locker room.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    Nope, not at my catholic schools !!

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    Yes, we did, both at school, all boys no girls in the class so far as we were aware, and at the YMCA. The showers were communal as well. It was no big deal that I can remember. Developing cocks and balls were usually quite smaller and almost all if not all were a lot smaller than mine.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    My Dad, (who graduated from a Rochester, NY city high school in 1950), told me that the guys used to swim nude in physical education class.

    I graduated from a suburban Rochester high school in 1981. The school district provided swimsuits for us, all different sizes , coded by color. The dark green ones were the largest size. It was all included in our towel fee that we paid each year, because we were required to shower after physical education classes.

    Today, nobody is required to shower after physical education. Kids stink if they have PE too early in the day, especially in warm weather.....


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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    Most upsetting to me was sometimes the other boys, all circumcised, would make fun of my foreskin. I was later "cut" in my early 20's for medical reasons and wish I'd had it done as a baby when I would have had no memory of it.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    Varsity Swimmin - 2 years -- red speedo's all around..

    in "regular" P.E. there was no swimming -but there definately was required showering after whatever athletics we were doing - HATED all of it - except the after school swimming -- and showered with my glasses on (being pretty blind) and NOT wanting to miss any eye candy.

    A very small wet red speedo was bad enuff - especially at "meets" with an audience --
    I can't imagine a whole class of nude swimming -- I never would have gone out for the team !
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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    Ha. Being required by a coach to swim naked in High School. Sounds like some sort of cheesy porn plot for C1R.
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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    Thanks for the replies so far. Seems there were some instances of this but perhaps not as prevalent across the country as people have suggested in that other thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shepherd 2 View Post
    Yes, we did, both at school, all boys no girls in the class so far as we were aware, and at the YMCA.
    Was it a biggish school like in the middle of a typical city, or a small-town school, or one of those all-grades-in-one-building-only-20-students Little House on the Prairie rural type schools? And how long ago was this, if you don't mind my asking?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronboy View Post
    My Dad, (who graduated from a Rochester, NY city high school in 1950), told me that the guys used to swim nude in physical education class.

    I graduated from a suburban Rochester high school in 1981. The school district provided swimsuits for us, all different sizes , coded by color.
    Right, so some time in the 30 years the school policy changed in your town. Some guys have reported this still happening even in as recently as the early 90s in the UK in that other thread, but most seem to think this is BS.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    The only time we got naked in high school was to take a shower. I've never heard of nude swimming in school until I saw this thread.

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    ^Thanks. Can I ask when and where you were at school?

    You don't have to give exact details if you don't want to, just something like "big US city in the 70s" or something is fine.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    No, never happened. I'm 52. I was a member of the Boys Club and even the Y as a child and there was zero nudity save for the showers. I find it hard to believe there was nude swimming back in the day just so "lint" wouldn't clog the filters? Really?

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    I'm glad I never had to do anything like that. I heard enough laughing as it was...

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    hot speedos beat nude swimmers but yes this is the first time I'm hearing of this too. interesting.

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    My older brother swam nude at his high school (early 1960's). I swam nude at the Y. I remember most the pungent smell of the chlorine!

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    When I was in Junior High (12 yrs old) in the mid-60's, a bunch of parents in the neighborhood decided it would be a good idea for us 'kids' to take swimming lessons.. Our school had no pool....

    We were NOT required to swim nude, and boy am I glad we weren't!! I was older than the rest of the kids and going thru an early puberty....I was bigger physically, had pubic hair of course. Whenever we got changed back into our street clothes in the locker room, my dick would involuntarily get HARD....every single time!! It was embarassing as HELL for me...

    If I had been required to swim nude, I'd be totally mortified...and probably whould have been mentally traumatised by it.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    The school I attended for fourth grade was built in 1935 (originally used as a high school), and it had separate gyms for boys and girls. I don't know when the pool was built, but I imagine classes were gender-segregated for swimming as well. Don't know about nudity. When I took swimming in the late 80's, we were required to wear bathing suits. (Boys all wore trunks; we would have been teased mercilessly if we had worn speedo-type suits.)
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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    I would have guessed that in days past people were required to wear more clothing, not less, possibly including hats.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    Situation similar to Ronboy's. Graduated in 1980 from a school in western New York. Suits were provided for swim class. Same color scheme for sizing. You could bring your own suit if you wanted, which I did because I didn't like the suits that were provided. Showers were all nude. Nobody showered with suits or anything else on. That's the way showers were from the time you had to start taking them in the 5th grade. There was no swimming nude in the school pool.

    I do remember at the YMCA though it was a different situation. You could swim in the nude there. That was during the "men" only time though.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    Yes back in the 1950's in 5th and 6th. grade the boys went to YMCA we swam naked for those 2 years. This was time some going through puberty and one could see changes in growth of pubes and cocks.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    I was in high school in the late 60's/ early 70's. We had an indoor pool at my school and yes, we were required to swim nude. There were never any spectators, though. The girls were issued swimsuits. This was in the Chicago suburbs.
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    I love this subject and there is even a Yahoo group about it:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/YMCAnaked/

    I was in public grade school in the 1960s and public high school in the 1970s, and we never swam nude at any time. Never. But that was in suburban Orange County, California, near Disneyland, and that county has always been very conservative. I never even heard of the nude swimming practices until I started reading about it on web sites recently.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    You mean like this? (Check out the old lady in the audience, back right corner. Granny got a show that day!)



    PS: No nude swimming when I took swimming in school, ala early 90s, but just a few years before I attended Jr High there had been!
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    ^ That particular photo was claimed to be a fake, at least by one blog I read... they said the dicks are all the same dick, just in different positions, and were photoshopped in. I don't really know though. Here are some more "nude swimming" and "nude swim team" photos... you will have to decide for yourself which are real and which are fakes, since I don't know.
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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    Quote Originally Posted by mojoe54 View Post
    I was in high school in the late 60's/ early 70's. We had an indoor pool at my school and yes, we were required to swim nude. There were never any spectators, though. The girls were issued swimsuits. This was in the Chicago suburbs.
    So why were the girls issued with suits and the guys not? What's the rationale?

    And what about competitions/swim meets - guys swam those naked as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeltninja View Post
    So why were the girls issued with suits and the guys not? What's the rationale?

    And what about competitions/swim meets - guys swam those naked as well?

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    Don't know why the girls got suits--that's just the way it was. It was okay for girls to be more prudish, I guess. And the guys did wear suits at swim meets, probably because the other teams wore them.
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    There's a whole kind of bizarre history to this btw that goes back over a hundred years, to the Teddy Roosevelt days. The idea was that modesty was just for girls, and that real he-men were never embarrassed to be nude in front of their fellows. It was considered manly rather than gay. It wasn't until much later that young men began to worry about the possibility that there were queers among them who might be enjoying the whole thing for the wrong reason...

    And PS some of the same worries have been surfacing, or almost surfacing, in the DADT discussions. Guys in the military want to be able to strut around in the barracks & showers nude without worrying about somebody else getting a hardon. Or at least that's what the older military brass think they're worried about.

    Reminds me of what a friend of mine who was in Nam told me. He said that where he was stationed, the showers were down the street. In the mornings you would see guys walking down the street fully naked, holding their towels. Often proudly sporting morning wood...

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    Wow, the whole thing seems so sexy and bizarre to me!! I just can't imagine guys in swimming competitions, with spectators, doing it naked!?! Then, they give you your medal in the nude too?? Didn't they at least cover themselves with a towel when they got OUT of the pool??

    And then people took pictures for newpaper publication too!!

    Like I said earlier, if I had to swim in the nude when I was a young teen, I would have been MORE than mortified!! I'd be mortified even if was was in the bleechers watching....GADDDSSSS.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    it seems so ridiculous getting awarded their medals when still bollock naked and the group shots of the swim team posing for a formal picture naked.

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    Was this one from the 60's as well? I didn't think guys would have been so open about shaving down there back then.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    We had communal showers in college. Lucky for me I found it easy to stay soft due to fear of being found out (early 1980s). I did see lots of hot dudes. I hooked up with a number of guys from the dorm.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    Well, as you know, many swimmers shave their entire bodies, because hair on their body creates friction with the water and slows them down. I guess if they were going to swim nude, they had to shave their pubic hair too, since that would also slow them down.

    Sadly this practice had ended in my region by the time I got to high school. The pool was outdoors and nobody ever went nude, as far as I know. The locker rooms, of course, were a place of abundant nudity, and as someone mentioned above, if you appeared to be afraid to be nude in the locker room or shower, you would be considered a "pussy." There was almost peer pressure to be nude. Nobody actually forced you to take a shower, in fact I think some guys didn't. But if you seemed timid about it, someone would probably call you a girl.

    The shower room was a very social place, there was always talk and laughter there. And I got to see some of the school's hottest sports jocks naked there... while pretending I didn't care whether I saw them naked or not. I still got to see them in all their glory. I remember the older student who passed out the towels as you came out of the shower... he sat up high, on the counter, and I'm certain it was so that he could see everyone's dick as they came to get a towel.

    But nudity in the pool... never, unless maybe some late-night initiations happened or something. I was in 9th grade when streaking suddenly became a fad (1974) and there were a few streaks performed at my school, but I always missed them. Nudity in public was virtually unknown at that time.

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    This thread has lots of speculation and (I suspect) some doctored photos.

    Are there ANY mature JUBers out there with true memories?

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    As an American, I find it incredibly difficult to believe that nude swimming in schools was actually acceptable; We're too shy to even wear speedos. . .we always wear these really long, floppy swimming trunks that look like cargo shorts.

    So, my official stance is "I'm calling bullshit."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomenclature View Post
    As an American, I find it incredibly difficult to believe that nude swimming in schools was actually acceptable; We're too shy to even wear speedos. . .we always wear these really long, floppy swimming trunks that look like cargo shorts.

    So, my official stance is "I'm calling bullshit."
    My grandfather has pictures of himself at swim practice without anything on. There were, however, NO girls allowed in or around the pool area while boys were swimming.

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    Times have changed dramatically. Just because board shorts, what you call "really long, floppy swimming trunks," are popular now, doesn't mean they always were. And attitudes have changed dramatically as well. Today everyone is terrified of lawsuits so extra precautions are taken every step of the way.

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    high school 65-69, all male high school, all swimming nude

    Chicago public schools in the years 60-65, took summer swimming lessons at local high school, boys went three days a week, all swimming nude

    no one thought twice; for swimming lessons all we had to bring was a towel; in high school, all they provided was a towel

    all outdoor swimming in public park pools was with suits

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    Quote Originally Posted by bw92116 View Post
    Times have changed dramatically. Just because board shorts, what you call "really long, floppy swimming trunks," are popular now, doesn't mean they always were. And attitudes have changed dramatically as well. Today everyone is terrified of lawsuits so extra precautions are taken every step of the way.
    Board shorts are starting to phase away just a little bit. More young guys are starting to wear those squarecut type trunks. I've got several myself. In fact, several of my straight friends switched to wearing them, feeling that a brief-style speedo would be too gay or revealing for them, but the little tight shorts strike a good balance. Straight guys want to be proud of their bodies too, and my friends are pretty hot so they get a nice ego boost from the girls admiring them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomenclature View Post
    As an American, I find it incredibly difficult to believe that nude swimming in schools was actually acceptable; We're too shy to even wear speedos. . .we always wear these really long, floppy swimming trunks that look like cargo shorts.

    So, my official stance is "I'm calling bullshit."
    I've heard it enough times now to wonder if there isn't some truth in it, actually.

    Quote Originally Posted by sweetcar View Post
    Wow, the whole thing seems so sexy and bizarre to me!! I just can't imagine guys in swimming competitions, with spectators, doing it naked!?! Then, they give you your medal in the nude too?? Didn't they at least cover themselves with a towel when they got OUT of the pool??

    And then people took pictures for newpaper publication too!!

    Like I said earlier, if I had to swim in the nude when I was a young teen, I would have been MORE than mortified!! I'd be mortified even if was was in the bleechers watching....GADDDSSSS.
    I agree with this. I can accept the nude swimming for lessons and Phys Ed, but not the inter-schools competitions. How is it that people can publish full nudes in newspapers, but films from the 50s, 60s and 70s were not chock-full of nudity? It seems disparate to me.

    As someone who enjoys a bit of public indecency from time to time, I can't say I don't find the idea beguiling, though...

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    Re: Older JUBbers: did you have to swim naked at school?

    I was at an all boys school in the 1980. Swimming practice required wearing of an 'official' Speedo in school colours. The story was if you forgot yours you'd have to swim nude or in your underwear, but I never saw it happen. Anyone who had forgotten always managed to borrow.

    After one practice the PE teacher came to the locker room to give one guy a dressing down for something - bad performance or whatever. The guy had a slight hardon, & the teacher made a point of remarking on it and teasing him. Then - this is totally genuine, I watched it happen (along with 20 or so others in my class) - the teacher told the guy open his legs, got a wet towel, rolled it up, and flicked it, stinging the guy firmly on the cock.

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    Casual nakedness was the norm 60 years ago. In the summer of 1950, after my mother died, my father and I visited relatives in Minneapolis. My father's cousin was a professor at the U of MN med school and took us on a tour of the campus, including the college pool. During summers the pool was open to teenage boys and the pool was full of hundreds of them, having fun in and around the pool, and all stark naked and totally uninhibited. It was the most beautiful sight I have ever seen.

    I was in college at the time, at a different school, and casual nakedness in the fraternity house was the norm. Everybody went naked to and from the shower, and before classes and at bedtime the communal bathroom was full of bare bodies, towelling off and shaving and brushing teeth naked. Many of the guys sat around in their rooms studying naked. All 60 of us slept in two big unheated rooms on the top floor. Nobody slept naked, probably because it is impossible to conceal a morning erection with no clothes on. Many guys came downstairs in the morning with tented pajamas, however, as well as some trying to conceal obvious wet spots from wet dreams. Everybody seemed to enjoy the camaraderie of nakedness in an all-male environment, but everybody remained clothed whenever there were females present. I was drafted soon after I graduated and found the situation in the army to be much the same as in college.
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