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    ^Actually you can mix any genre...so yeah it can handle it and differentiate too. And even integrate partially smartie pants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    ^Actually you can mix any genre...so yeah it can handle it and differentiate too. And even integrate partially smartie pants.
    It wouldn't do it, it would be made "told" to do it: you don't seem to be able to tell judgment from performance even if you are hit by both

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    Nobody understand do they belly?

    Not even your sidekick wannabe!
    You show courage the brave dream of

    Gallop on my old warhorse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taz View Post
    Nobody understand do they belly?

    Not even your sidekick wannabe!
    It's all your own run-over... so don't expect me to pity and cry for any of you when the inscrutable runs over you

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    No entiendo! o, no etiendes?

    los dos creo.
    You show courage the brave dream of

    Gallop on my old warhorse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taz View Post
    No entiendo! o, no etiendes?

    los dos creo.
    ¿No entiendo yo o no entiendes tú?

    Me parece que las dos cosas

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    Y ahora Taz es solamente un "show off".

    (¡Hace MUCHO años desde que you estudie' Español!)

    I remember a You Tube clip where a TV show enlisted the aid of a "translator" so some (brain dead) Yanks could understand English.

    I love listening to the nuances of language.

    Belamo - somewhere back there you mentioned Español Castelano contra "el otro" Español.

    Como "Ciudad" al Castelano = "thee - u - thahdth", y el otro = "See - U - thahdth"
    The dipthong of the letter C among other things.
    I had heard that the pronunciation went back to a monarch with a lisp that no one wanted to insult, so they all worked to imitate the king. I don't know if that's fact or fiction - just a tid bit from my High School Spanish classes a lifetime ago.


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    Re: British English

    Does everyone understand what Queen Flora is saying there, particularly the phrase right after "wrong foot"?


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    Where are your thoughts girl?

    ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishin View Post
    Where are your thoughts girl?

    ??
    Yes, that is what I thought it would make sense but, except for "girl", I could locate the phrase only in my head, not in my ear... like with the "prisoner" word... and I had to repeat at least once again most of her other phrases in those clips.
    Oh well, I guess it's again the crappy sleep and the headache, but still, she has one funny prosody being delivered out of her... it used to happen all the time with BBC Shakespeare until I quit and went right to the printed job...

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    that guttural sound at 1.28

    Dame Flora's career was made by playing the ugly and unloved

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Yes, that is what I thought it would make sense but, except for "girl", I could locate the phrase only in my head, not in my ear... like with the "prisoner" word... and I had to repeat at least once again most of her other phrases in those clips.
    Oh well, I guess it's again the crappy sleep and the headache, but still, she has one funny prosody being delivered out of her... it used to happen all the time with BBC Shakespeare until I quit and went right to the printed job...
    That's the opposite for me... "girl" is the part I'm the less sure I hear...
    Anyhow I doubt they actually spoke this English back in the days (depicted here, as opposed to when the film was shot...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post


    that guttural sound at 1.28

    Dame Flora's career was made by playing the ugly and unloved
    It was not guttural, rather nasal-pharyngeal... hoggish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nishin View Post
    That's the opposite for me... "girl" is the part I'm the less sure I hear...
    Anyhow I doubt they actually spoke this English back in the days (depicted here, as opposed to when the film was shot...)
    Oh, and what about those fluffy gauzy skirts in the deep of the XVIth century... and what about...

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    I have no knowledge of the haute-couture à la mode de l'époque and didn't pay attention ... I tend to be annoyed by anachronism when my limited knowledge allows me to spot it but I suppose cinema can't be too realistic for the sake of entertainment ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Dame Flora's career was made by playing the ugly and unloved
    That's an over-simplification. The clip you've illustrated your comment with is of Dame Flora playing Queen Elizabeth I, who is not considered to have been either ugly or unloved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unloadonme View Post
    May an Englishman contribute to this thread?



    That's an over-simplification. The clip you've illustrated your comment with is of Dame Flora playing Queen Elizabeth I, who is not considered to have been either ugly or unloved.
    Unless she is being played by Bette Davis opposite Olivia de Havilland and Errol Flynn

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    The cognoscenti appreciate the late Dame Flora Robson but I bet the foolish rednecks of Peoria don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Unless she is being played by Bette Davis opposite Olivia de Havilland and Errol Flynn
    Bette Davis playing Elizabeth I would be like a turd in a punchbowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unloadonme View Post
    Bette Davis playing Elizabeth I would be like a turd in a punchbowl.

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    ^
    such sumptuous colour!

    If only Dame Flora, Laurence, Vivien, Tamara, James, Raymond and Sir Alexander had the £ to buy the Technicolor film stock to make a more satisfying drama.

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    ^^ Dreadful!

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    I just want to know if bloody is really that bad of a word.

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    ^Not from my experience - we used it in Canada all the time...it's rather provincial of course. It's a word used mostly to emphasize or underscore something akin to very. UK usage may differ of course. "Do you have to be so bloody stupid?" "He's a bleedin idiot" "Bloody ell"

    Belamo will soon stick his oar in of course ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    ^Not from my experience - we used it in Canada all the time...it's rather provincial of course. It's a word used mostly to emphasize or underscore something akin to very. UK usage may differ of course. "Do you have to be so bloody stupid?" "He's a bleedin idiot" "Bloody ell"

    belamo will soon stick his oar in of course ....
    mewhywhatforaboutwhat

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    ^I expected something more apposite...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    ^I expected something more apposite...
    Again, to what exactly...

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    apposite you berk not opposite...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    apposite you berk not opposite...
    Oh, I thought I had written "concerning what exactly"... although I had first considered typing "you mean like a limpet?", but that might have been delving too deep into the etymology, right?

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    scraping of a dull beak I should think .... note left on 1888 trail marker 4.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    scraping of a dull beak I should think .... note left on 1888 trail marker 4.5
    Like there was that much of material to beak or leave a mark...

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    check yer beaker then

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    check yer beaker then
    Becoming either a genuine big beak or a lesser one is not among my aspirations

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    What does Valerie Hobson say at 36.50?.

    Oh no, I never moved on the hey?


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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    What does Valerie Hobson say at 36.50?.

    Oh no, I never moved on the hey?
    I think she says "Oh no I never moved off the hay" which is a weird thing to say, but it means she never woke up in the night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyAnger View Post
    ... "Oh no I never moved off the hay" ...
    She's consciously using slang words. I thought it might be this—

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...20the%20Hay%3F

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    It sounded like this to me: "Oh no, I never moved on hit the hay."


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    Hobson had no choice....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    Hobson had no choice....
    I think it's funny that the 19 year old English girl Valerie Hobson is playing an American and discussing Negro slang with the butler.



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    Quote Originally Posted by star-warrior View Post
    It sounded like this to me: "Oh no, I never moved on hit the hay."
    Yeah I guess its "Oh no, I never moved after I hit the hay" seeing as someone is talking about sleeping with her. Is to hit the hay a really British way of saying go to bed? I have never thought about it.

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    It's certainly an American expression for going to sleep.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyAnger View Post
    ... Is to hit the hay a really British way of saying go to bed?..
    Valerie Hobson is British but she's playing an American in this American movie.

    Someone accused the character she's playing off getting up in the middle of the night to commit adultery with the rich man who owns the house.

    I have since realised the film is so old that there might be a blip in the soundtrack and a word his been lost.

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    To hit the hay is also understood in Canadian English.

    Counting sheep.
    Zonked out.
    Sawing logs.
    Dead to the world.
    In dreamland.
    Two journalists killed during live broadcasts by madman smothering them with pillows. Because remember, guns don't kill people....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    To hit the hay is also understood in Canadian English.

    Counting sheep.
    Zonked out.
    Sawing logs.
    Dead to the world.
    In dreamland.
    wait wait you forgot being as dumb dragging a bag of bricks and Pat does that everyday.




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    Quote Originally Posted by PreTTy PeTe View Post
    ..dragging ....


    Pete, this dragging obsession you've got seems to be dragging this thread off the topic


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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    What does Valerie Hobson say at 36.50?.
    Oh no, I never moved on the hey?

    It looks and sounds to me that that particular scene/dialog was spliced somewhere along the line--it's so choppy--could very well be incomplete. I wouldn't venture a guess.

    Here's one:



    It sounds like she's saying: The mohr you tighten your greep, Tawkin, the mohr stah systeems will sleep through yohr fingahz.

    But I think what she's really saying is, "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."

    Who'd of thunk?

    She a real pistol, that dame, Leia. See?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I think it's funny that the 19 year old English girl Valerie Hobson is playing an American and discussing Negro slang with the butler.


    The men are very hunky. As many of you know, she was married to John Profumo.

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    What is Lumley saying after "lots of people work for me", just before the other guy's "waaaaaargh"?

    Last edited by belamo; January 25th, 2014 at 01:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    I'm not sure if what is missing to me is phonetical or semantical, but I don't get the sense of that clip, let alone the funny part of it.

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