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    Quote Originally Posted by unloadonme View Post
    The boy's good, but he missed some pretty obvious accents such as Brummie, Geordie and, of course, Yorkshire. Also, there's a lot more to English accents than he suggested. Could you, for instance tell the difference between a posh Scouser and a common one?
    I met a Geordie recently who was complaining about what a dreadful representative of the region Cheryl Cole was, "with her common accent". He was horrified that I couldn't tell the difference between his accent and hers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm2378 View Post
    "Um, James, I need to ask you a favour"
    "Yes, of course, if I can. That's not what I think it is."
    "Inside this urn are the remains of the 21 year old son of one of our guests"
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    "Then might I suggest, this may sound a little old fashioned, the hotel safe?"
    "The hotel safe is full"
    "Your office then"
    "Everytime I go and work I'll become overwhelmingly conscious that I'm sharing the room with a...with a corpse"
    "In powder form, not as eery surely?"
    "Eery enough, which is why I'd like you to store it for me"
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    "So am I, but then I think to myself why I have my position if I can't abuse it every now and again? I'll just leave it here"
    "No, No, No, You can't Jack"

    No need for thanks XD Used to love this show!

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    I think you'll all get the jist of different dialects from the videos below:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdx3PP5XStc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdx3PP5XStc[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8k7ajlq0eI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8k7ajlq0eI[/ame]

    *I hold no responsibility for the sillyness or inaccuracy of some accents in the above videos. Most are quite accurate though

    Edit: Here's a video for American Accents

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9JEJA0yxsM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9JEJA0yxsM[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadoyayunta View Post
    I met a Geordie recently who was complaining about what a dreadful representative of the region Cheryl Cole was, "with her common accent". He was horrified that I couldn't tell the difference between his accent and hers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaysizzles View Post
    It's not making any sense to me but I think she's saying..."My friend told me about the night he raised his [hat?] and how it brought him ecstasy. I said it's funny..."

    and later...
    "...cause he was in the mood, mmhmm, to see his daughter wooed, mmhmm, I took it like a lamb, a fool I am, I push a pram, 'cause ..."
    Well, the song is supposed to be about a straight couple's fucking, deflowering and, given the "pram", getting pregnant... but it could also be interpreted in a tamer way, about merely wooing and being trapped in the conventionality of betrothal and marriage.
    As someone whose mother language is not English, you can never be sure when you are making up what is being said, but often you can get better the sense, while the native speakers only get the sounds.

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    ^ Yeah...I understood the gist of the song. I don't understand the meaning of the first line and how it spurred her to recount what once happened to her...how she got horny, married, knocked up etc...

    it doesn't really matter though

    Bad decisions make good stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaysizzles View Post
    ^ Yeah...I understood the gist of the song. I don't understand the meaning of the first line and how it spurred her to recount what once happened to her...how she got horny, married, knocked up etc...

    it doesn't really matter though


    I didn't mean you, I wasn't calling you stupid (you simply didn't give any reason, you know I have no problem with calling things by their proper names).
    Of course not, what would you expect, it's a fucking 1930s nightclub song, not a Shakespeare sonnet... although the "sense" of those doesn't actually make much "sense" either, however entertaining I find them

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    Quote Originally Posted by unloadonme View Post
    The boy's good, but he missed some pretty obvious accents such as Brummie, Geordie and, of course, Yorkshire. Also, there's a lot more to English accents than he suggested. Could you, for instance tell the difference between a posh Scouser and a common one?
    his manchester accent ended up being a yorkshire accent near the end of his example(maybe its because im from manchester i noticed but it really stood out) but the rest of the english ones were recognisable.

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7LgPvTYbw8[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    It's not British anymore, but what does she say between "My friend told about..." and "... I said: it's funny", and then after "I took it like a lamb"?
    Yes, her voice is beautiful and her accent "sounds like Garbo looked" (from 1935 to 1941 )


    My friend told me about the night he raised his hat and how I brought him ecstacy, I said it's funny or something like that once happened to me. The moon was shining brightly, I felt rather gay... he had a pair of eyes so blue... It did start that kind of way, but it ended like you... Because I was in the mood mmm-mmm, and he was in the mood mmm-mmm. I thought it grand, you understand, that I was in the mood mmm-mmm. I was in his arms, mmm-mmm, and love was in his eyes mmm-mmm... He tried a soft caress, I answered yes, and I must confess that I was in the mood mmm-mmm. I thought he'd better speak to my mother, 'cos you know what mothers are... And when she had gave her blessing, and father said "Now you can call me pa....". Cos he was in the mood, mmm-mmm, to see his daughter wooed, mmm-mmm... I took it like a lamb, the fool I am, I push a pram, because I was in the mood, I was in the mood, I was in the mood, mmm-mmm....

    WRT raising the hat - isn't that what you see in some comedies in the early b&W era when a girl kisses a guy?


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    These are the lyrics to the song above too:

    My Friend told me about the night he raised his hat and how it brought him ecstacy,
    I said it's funny but something like that, once happened to me.
    The moon was shining brightly, I felt rather gay. He had a pair of eyes so blue.
    It didn't start exactly that way, but it ended like you.
    Cause I was in the mood mmmm-hmmm,
    and he was in the mood mmmm-hmmm.
    So he held my hand, I thought it grand, you understand? That I was in the mood mmmm-hmmm.
    I was in his arms mmmm-hmmm, and love was in his eyes mmmm-hmmm.
    He tried a soft caress, I answered yes, I must confess, that I was in the mood mmmm-hmmm.
    I thought that he'd better speak to my Mother, 'cause you know what Mothers are.
    When she had given her blessing, then Father said, "Now you can call me Pa..."
    Cause he was in the mood mmmm-hmmmm, to see his Daughter wooed mmmm-hmmmm,
    I took it like a lamb, like a fool I am, I push a pram, cause I was in the mood, I was in the mood, cause I was in the mood mmmm-hmmm.


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    Re: British English

    What about this American English? (particularly the part when she's slapping her hips and asscheeks)


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    Um, The number has some (wind effects?) in it but you'll just have to use your imagination about them,

    I used to dream about a cottage small
    A cottage small by a waterfall
    But I wound up with no home at all
    My dreams are gone with the wind (woo, get it?)

    I'll never forget the way I did my stuff
    I did my stuff, but you called my bluff
    You called my bluff and sho' enough
    My dreams are gone with the wind.

    Once my love and I, would stroll beneath the sky,
    Hand in hand together, But now I'm all alone
    And when romance has flown, there's bound to be stormy weather.

    I thought my pathway would be paved with gold
    I cast my dreams (I never could do that)
    But now I know I'm out in the cold, My dreams are gone with the wind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm2378 View Post

    I thought my pathway would be paved with gold
    I cast my dreams
    Thank you I'm so particularly thick lately...

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    Always found the British accent a turn off. Much prefer the Australian accent, very sexy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Thank you I'm so particularly thick lately...
    No bother Though I don't blame you for not being able to get what she says, I had a bit of a hard time because the accent is sooo false! It doesn't help that the sound quality isn't that good either


    Quote Originally Posted by Tribunal View Post
    Always found the British accent a turn off. Much prefer the Australian accent, very sexy.
    Awww come on, when you can understand some of the softer British accents they can be sexy (I think I'm the only person I know who finds the Scouser and Geordie accents sexy). Some Scottish accents are sexy too although I prefer alot of the American accents as well as Italian, French and Australian too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribunal View Post
    Always found the British accent a turn off. Much prefer the Australian accent, very sexy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gm2378 View Post
    No bother Though I don't blame you for not being able to get what she says, I had a bit of a hard time because the accent is sooo false! It doesn't help that the sound quality isn't that good either
    One would think that someone born in Louisville would be able to do a better Southern accent. Granted, Louisville is hardly the heart of Dixie, but it's not exactly the northernmost tip of Maine either.
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    lol yea. i remember trying to watch "beautiful thing" (the movie) on youtube and being so confused. I ended up spending forever trying to find a version online that had subtitles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilBit View Post
    One would think that someone born in Louisville would be able to do a better Southern accent. Granted, Louisville is hardly the heart of Dixie, but it's not exactly the northernmost tip of Maine either.
    Wow! And here I thought she was English with some sort of British-American hybrid accent XD

    The golden era of Hollywood had some strange ideas when it came to accents

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm2378 View Post
    Wow! And here I thought she was English with some sort of British-American hybrid accent XD

    The golden era of Hollywood had some strange ideas when it came to accents
    In that number, Dunne was trying to make a parody of the act (wind effects included) of a real Southern peach that Cary Grant would be dating earlier in the movie.
    As for the Hollywood thing, it was just a reflection of the linguistic prejudices of the era... upper class American English took British English as a model:


    Incidentally, I used to envy Claudette Colbert's accent and diction


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    Quote Originally Posted by LilBit View Post
    One would think that someone born in Louisville would be able to do a better Southern accent. Granted, Louisville is hardly the heart of Dixie, but it's not exactly the northernmost tip of Maine either.
    Just like one would think that someone with her vocal training would do a better job singing Gounod, aside from her American accent screwing the French libretto:

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    You learn something new everyday Belamo

    Regarding the video above, is it just me or does she resemble Susan Sarandon slightly? XD

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    Oh, BTW, what does Cary Grant whisper at the beginning of the clip I posted?

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    Unfortunately I can't make out what he says

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    Quote Originally Posted by kallipolis View Post
    A you tube clip from a 1952 BBC tv children's programme, which demonstrates the crystal clarity of BBC presenter's accents at that time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuPVcxzVD5A
    That was just creepy. I was expecting Andy Pandy to get up off his swing and walk though my monitor or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Oh, BTW, what does Cary Grant whisper at the beginning of the clip I posted?
    Sounds to me like he says "You so-and-so" but I could be wrong

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    i love british accents too, aussie accents are dead sexy!

    when i watch law and order UK i sometime have to go to close caption to understand them, but although i sometime don't understand the slang on
    are you being served? i can always understand the words

    i also wondered if british people hate it when an actor tries a british accent as much as i hate when one tries a "southern" american accent- they ususally sound awful!

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    lol western accent, theres a difference between California and the rest...

    i repeat things people say all the time, and many foreigners get offended when i do this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolalola70 View Post
    i also wondered if british people hate it when an actor tries a british accent as much as i hate when one tries a "southern" american accent- they ususally sound awful!
    Yes I hate it when accents are poorly done, whether it's a non-Brit doing it or a Brit doing an American accent. It can slightly spoil what I'm watching when this happens. Even in British programmes when someone is doing a regional accent badly that annoys me as well. Of course there are some actors who are very good at accents, although I can't think of anyone at present apart from Hugh Laurie as House. Does he pass muster from the American point of view?

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    I actually heard Johnny Depp's Scottish accent in "Alice in Wonderland" today and thought it was a decent attempt, especially for an American who always seem to go Irish

    I did notice when watching Bram Stoker's Dracula the other night that Winona Rider and Keanu Reeves' accents weren't that hot :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by redfox70 View Post
    Yes I hate it when accents are poorly done, whether it's a non-Brit doing it or a Brit doing an American accent. It can slightly spoil what I'm watching when this happens. Even in British programmes when someone is doing a regional accent badly that annoys me as well. Of course there are some actors who are very good at accents, although I can't think of anyone at present apart from Hugh Laurie as House. Does he pass muster from the American point of view?
    i think he does a great job, as does Simon Baker. when i first saw him in LA Confidential i thought he was an American actor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redfox70 View Post
    Yes I hate it when accents are poorly done, whether it's a non-Brit doing it or a Brit doing an American accent. It can slightly spoil what I'm watching when this happens. Even in British programmes when someone is doing a regional accent badly that annoys me as well.
    I have found that Brits trying the American accent always goof it up by adding a "phantom 'r'" in places where it's not supposed to be.

    Even the best of them seem to make this elementary mistake, which is a dead giveaway. (Example: Brits say "Cuber and the United States" or "the tuber and the saxophone"))

    @GM: the old Hollywood accent was called the "Mid-Atlantic" accent, which had definite RP features. It was taught in speech classes and finishing schools all the way up to about 1950, when the naturalism of actors such as James Dean and Marlon Brando made the dialect passe.

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    What is muttering the guy being kicked by Heston?


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    English:
    What is muttering the guy being kicked by Heston muttering?
    (Well, Canadian English at least...)
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    What is muttering the guy being kicked by Heston?
    That's old west cowboy speak (Hollywood's version of it)...he muttered "you ain't fightin' proper!"

    English translation..."you aren't fighting properly!" (or..."That was a low down dirty move you %#@$!*&#! Put up your dukes and let's make this a fair fight.")


    Bad decisions make good stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    English:

    (Well, Canadian English at least...)
    In proper English... but if you just knew how many times I've been told that I sound too formal by using that structure properly (yeah, I know...)... that must be one of the reasons (apart from having a crazy brain) that my English is perfectly broken.
    In fact I edited that twice until I decided to leave it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaysizzles View Post
    That's old west cowboy speak (Hollywood's version of it)...he muttered "you ain't fightin' proper!"

    English translation..."you aren't fighting properly!" (or..."That was a low down dirty move you %#@$!*&#! Put up your dukes and let's make this a fair fight.")


    As I have said before in this thread, I assume that was what he was saying as a holistic impression, but I simply can't perceive it in detail and I can't be sure that I am not missing anything... or getting it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    In proper English... but if you just knew how many times I've been told that I sound too formal by using that structure properly (yeah, I know...)... that must be one of the reasons (apart from having a crazy brain) that my English is perfectly broken.
    In fact I edited that twice until I decided to leave it that way.
    Did I really write that? I must have been high on citrus or something... I simply changed it wrong, I remember thinking my first (correct) writing was wrong because the phrase before the main verb was too long... then I must have been high on sleepiness.
    I still wish someone would transcribe what Cary Grant whispers to Dunne in the clip above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post

    I still wish someone would transcribe what Cary Grant whispers to Dunne in the clip above.
    If you mean the part at 22 seconds, I'm fairly sure he's saying, "You so-and-so..." but after that, I can't make anything out.

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    I'd like to think that I speak with Received pronunciation but that's probably just comparatively, considering most people from where I am speak the worst English ever (south-east London).

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    Cockney is the worst. "Random" words and with a thick Londoner's accent.

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    Does anybody get what she is saying between 00:20 and 00:23?


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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Does anybody get what she is saying between 00:20 and 00:23?

    je dem un shweed fot keel em
    In his autumn, before the winter, comes man's last mad surge of youth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beachguyj View Post
    je dem un shweed fot keel em
    Thanks for the effort, but I meant the original Portuguese, not the rendering into Dutch

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    What is the phrase used to ask permission to take the blond beefdoll away?

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0026007/

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    ^"May I cut in?"
    Recently I heard a 'wise guy' story that I had a party at my home for twenty-five men. It's an interesting story, but I don't know twenty-five men I'd want to invite to a party. ~Joan Crawford

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    That's right, but do you really hear it CLEARLY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post

    @GM: the old Hollywood accent was called the "Mid-Atlantic" accent, which had definite RP features. It was taught in speech classes and finishing schools all the way up to about 1950, when the naturalism of actors such as James Dean and Marlon Brando made the dialect passe.
    Thanks for the info

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    That's right, but do you really hear it CLEARLY?
    It sounded over-enunciated to me.
    Recently I heard a 'wise guy' story that I had a party at my home for twenty-five men. It's an interesting story, but I don't know twenty-five men I'd want to invite to a party. ~Joan Crawford

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