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    I wish someone could transcribe what Lee Williams/Jack Harrison is saying at 0:51-0:53...




    Those were the sort of accents I lurved when I started to learn English, and that I wanted to imitate... in part also because I believed that European (British) English and Castilian Spanish were symmetrically opposed to silly-sounding American English and Spanish (and I still feel so about the latter), but some five years ago I finally found the articulation of American English easier to assimilate.

    BTW how often do Americans find British English impossible to follow in TV shows?

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    "Isn't your pay review due in a month?"

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    I live in the USA. But, sometimes, when an interview with a UK person is broadcast here, they subtitle the conversation in English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire View Post
    "Isn't your pay review due in a month?"
    Thank youuuuuu
    And what about 0:22-0:24

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    I can understand just fine but they do seem to speak a bit fast sometimes. I miss the odd word here and there but take in most if it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    I live in the USA. But, sometimes, when an interview with a UK person is broadcast here, they subtitle the conversation in English.
    Don't tell me that never happens with certain forms of American English too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Thank youuuuuu
    And what about 0:22-0:24
    To me it sounds like "The guest has asked me to keep him...him! The owner of him inside has asked me to keep him somewhere safe."

    That's what I hear but honestly I think I've misheard it in the magenta bits.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    belamo, i don't know my way around spanish at all, but i think i understand your comparison between the two forms of English and Spanish. French from France has always struck me as sounding very British, though by comparison I do not think French from Canada sounds correspondingly North American. Or perhaps it does, but the register in Canadian French varies widely depending on who you speak with, so it's a bit harder to distinguish a common North-American influence.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Thank youuuuuu
    And what about 0:22-0:24
    It sounds to me like he's saying "Carlito is a filthy cunt."
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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    To me it sounds like "The guest has asked me to keep him...him! The owner of him inside has asked me to keep him somewhere safe."

    That's what I hear but honestly I think I've misheard it in the magenta bits.
    That's right, he DOES say so. As for my original question, I believe he says what Fire reported, but I still can actually "hear" all of it and I don't think I'll ever will, just suppose, conjecture and imagine it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilBit View Post
    It sounds to me like he's saying "Carlito is a filthy cunt."

    After of before he says "LilLeSewer is madly in love with Carlito"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    That's right, he DOES say so. As for my original question, I believe he says what Fire reported, but I still can actually "hear" all of it and I don't think I'll ever will, just suppose, conjecture and imagine it.
    Yep, Fire's right on the money. It's amazing how easy it is to be outpaced by first-language speakers, even when one feels completely free to speak his mind, a single rushed sentence and the whole comprehension falls apart. At least that's been my experience with French.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    belamo, i don't know my way around spanish at all, but i think i understand your comparison between the two forms of English and Spanish. French from France has always struck me as sounding very British, though by comparison I do not think French from Canada sounds correspondingly North American. Or perhaps it does, but the register in Canadian French varies widely depending on who you speak with, so it's a bit harder to distinguish a common North-American influence.
    The opposition I meant is that of a more contrasted, clean-cut articulation on the European side, while in America the vocalism and the sounds in general are somewhat more relaxed... it's like the European speech has a sharper, crisper quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mason42633 View Post
    ignore this reply....stupid pooter! LOL
    Too late, Appalacchia man

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    Ahh, Hotel Babylon. A programme I do enjoy watching!





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    I loves me some Mountain Speek:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03iwAY4KlIU&feature=related[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Yep, Fire's right on the money. It's amazing how easy it is to be outpaced by first-language speakers, even when one feels completely free to speak his mind, a single rushed sentence and the whole comprehension falls apart. At least that's been my experience with French.
    That can happen with any language, but the problem with English and its complication of sounds, somehow making up for the simplest of grammars and its comparatively not bigger quantity of idioms, is what makes it endemic to the language

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    Quote Originally Posted by mason42633 View Post
    I thought it was only me that had problems understanding British English. Me being from Appalachia, we have our own dialect of American English and when people from other areas hear me, they say I have a hard to understand speaking dialect. I wonder, is there different dialects of British English? Cause some British I can easily understand, but others I have no idea what they're saying.
    Yes, of course there are! Isn't this so in every country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mason42633 View Post
    Me being from Appalachia, we have our own dialect of American English and when people from other areas hear me, they say I have a hard to understand speaking dialect.
    Is it anything like this dialect? (Try to keep up. They don't wait. )


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    Is it anything like this dialect? (Try to keep up. They don't wait. )

    Sounds like he's got a bit of an irish twang there...


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    Quote Originally Posted by star-warrior View Post
    Sounds like he's got a bit of an irish twang there...
    Newfoundland has a strong Scottish heritage. They were pretty-much segregated for a very long time before they joined Canada. Plenty of time for the language to 'develop'.

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    Winston Churchill once remarked that the Americans and the English were 2 peoples separated by a common language....so right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullwing413 View Post
    Winston Churchill once remarked that the Americans and the English were 2 peoples separated by a common language....so right.
    And the Atlantic Ocean. Hence the "Pondian Difference"...


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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post

    After of before he says "LilLeSewer is madly in love with Carlito"?
    I didn't hear that part, but I definitely heard something about you needing a bath.
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    British English or just damn good beer? you be the judge...
    okay bye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilBit View Post
    I didn't hear that part, but I definitely heard something about you needing a bath.
    Oh that's so true... and obvious.

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    A you tube clip from a 1952 BBC tv children's programme, which demonstrates the crystal clarity of BBC presenter's accents at that time.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuPVcxzVD5A[/ame]

    I quote from the BBC website:

    The British Isles has seven officially recognised minority languages under the European Charter for Regional or Minority languages. They are: Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, Irish Gaelic, Cornish, Lowland Scots, Ulster Scots and British Sign Language

    Received pronunciation

    Received Pronunciation and BBC English
    by Dr Catherine Sangster

    What is Received Pronunciation?

    "Although the BBC does not, and never did, impose pronunciations of its own on English words, the myth of BBC English dies hard. It owed its birth no doubt to the era before the Second World War, when all announcers ... spoke ... Received Pronunciation." (Miss G.M. Miller, BBC Pronunciation Unit preface to the BBC Pronouncing Dictionary of British Names, 1971)
    Received Pronunciation, often abbreviated to RP, is an accent of spoken English. Unlike other UK accents, it's identified not so much with a particular region as with a particular social group, although it has connections with the accent of Southern England. RP is associated with educated speakers and formal speech. It has connotations of prestige and authority, but also of privilege and arrogance. Some people even think that the name 'Received Pronunciation' is a problem - if only some accents or pronunciations are 'received', then the implication is that others should be rejected or refused.

    When writing his pronouncing dictionary in 1916, phonetician Daniel Jones described RP as the accent "most usually heard in everyday speech in the families of Southern English persons whose menfolk have been educated at the great public boarding schools". Although this description would raise a few eyebrows today, RP is still the accent generally represented in dictionaries which give pronunciations, and it's also used as a model for the teaching of English as a foreign language.

    Perhaps for this reason, RP is often thought of as an unchanging accent; a standard against which other accents can be measured or judged. Some people don't even think of it as an accent at all, but rather a way of speaking without an accent. Speaking without an accent, though, would be like painting without a colour! In fact, there is considerable variation within groups of people who are said to speak RP, the term is differently interpreted by different people, and RP itself has changed considerably over time.

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    A clip from This is television 1946 reintroducing television to the British public, after suspension of TV transmissions in August, 1939 as a result of the outbreak of the Second World War.

    Note the highly clipped accent of the lady presenter:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP1otjv8nV0[/ame]

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    Why do some British people say "fwee" when they are saying "three"? I noticed it and David Beckham said "fwee" when referring to his kids.

    Fyi: my parents are British so Im not knocking it. Im just wondering

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    Quote Originally Posted by M10000 View Post
    Why do some British people say "fwee" when they are saying "three"? I noticed it and David Beckham said "fwee" when referring to his kids.

    Fyi: my parents are British so Im not knocking it. Im just wondering
    David Beckham? He's a damn ball-kicker geek, for meninges' sake, what would you expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Thank youuuuuu
    And what about 0:22-0:24
    "One of the guests has asked me to keep him...him."

    Love the accent.

    Hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram View Post
    Belamy
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    Ehem... I didn't know we were such closer friends

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    Quote Originally Posted by braex27 View Post
    "One of the guests has asked me to keep him...him."

    Love the accent.

    Hehe.
    No, I meant the next part, the one that ends in "safe".
    Oh and what is it that they have for "storing napkins and cutlery"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M10000 View Post
    Why do some British people say "fwee" when they are saying "three"? I noticed it and David Beckham said "fwee" when referring to his kids.

    Fyi: my parents are British so Im not knocking it. Im just wondering
    That's nothing to do with dialect. It's a speech impediment which causes the speaker to pronounce Rs as Ws, famously shared by chat show host Jonathan Ross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadoyayunta View Post
    That's nothing to do with dialect. It's a speech impediment which causes the speaker to pronounce Rs as Ws, famously shared by chat show host Jonathan Ross.
    That's right, Kay Francis was considered a riot because of that same speech quirk (isn't it right, Croynan? ), but Beckham could have bought himself a new tongue and a new brain, hell, he can even buy time... and a "speech impediment" is not actually not an "impediment" as could be not giving birth to a baby, you can correct your speech, at least in restricted public appearances, as much as you can correct your teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    That's right, Kay Francis was considered a riot because of that same speech quirk (isn't it right, Croynan? ), but Beckham could have bought himself a new tongue and a new brain, hell, he can even buy time... and a "speech impediment" is not actually not an "impediment" as could be not giving birth to a baby, you can correct your speech, at least in restricted public appearances, as much as you can correct your teeth.
    Oh my that needs some editing...

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    I finally was able to hear the clear distinction between the different English dialects by watching this British kid demonstrate them all. He's pretty good.

    ENGLISH IN 24 ACCENTS:

    [ame]http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1941875[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    No, I meant the next part, the one that ends in "safe".
    Oh and what is it that they have for "storing napkins and cutlery"?
    cupboards (aka cabinets)




    the sentence ending in "safe"...I haven't a clue what he says.

    He speaks just too quickly and doesn't enunciate enough.
    Bad decisions make good stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by braex27 View Post
    Love the accent. Hehe.
    The guys in that clip sound pretty much accent-free to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strangepoetry View Post
    I finally was able to hear the clear distinction between the different English dialects by watching this British kid demonstrate them all. He's pretty good.

    ENGLISH IN 24 ACCENTS:

    http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1941875
    The boy's good, but he missed some pretty obvious accents such as Brummie, Geordie and, of course, Yorkshire. Also, there's a lot more to English accents than he suggested. Could you, for instance tell the difference between a posh Scouser and a common one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaysizzles View Post
    cupboards (aka cabinets)




    .
    Right, it should be so, but I couldn't actually "hear" it, only assume it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by unloadonme View Post
    The boy's good, but he missed some pretty obvious accents such as Brummie, Geordie and, of course, Yorkshire. Also, there's a lot more to English accents than he suggested. Could you, for instance tell the difference between a posh Scouser and a common one?
    I'm American so I could hardly differenciate between any of the Brit accents. Whenever a Brit talked about the UK having a diverse group of dialects it bugged me because I had no frame of reference to understand what they meant. This vid at least gave me a frame of reference in the way that the guy sort of lined them up for me.

    That being said, I have no clue what you mean by Brummie, Geordie, Yorkshire, or Scouser. What I CAN positively tell you is that British accents, as a whole, are sexy as hell, and I can think of nothing hotter than the idea of waking up next to one. ()

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    To me it sounds like "The guest has asked me to keep him...him! The owner of him inside has asked me to keep him somewhere safe."

    That's what I hear but honestly I think I've misheard it in the magenta bits.
    Maybe we should correct ourselves... he says something more like "[(...) guests has asked me to keep it... him...the urn with him inside ??????".

    Their voices are so velvety throaty and reverberating, one of the many reasons I love men so much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by strangepoetry View Post
    That being said, I have no clue what you mean by Brummie, Geordie, Yorkshire, or Scouser.
    I was talking about regional accents. A Brummie accent is spoken by someone from Birmingham, Geordie is from Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Yorkshire is, well, Yorkshire and Scouse is from Liverpool. I could pick up on those accents within seconds.

    Quote Originally Posted by strangepoetry View Post
    What I CAN positively tell you is that British accents, as a whole, are sexy as hell, and I can think of nothing hotter than the idea of waking up next to one. ()
    Thanks.

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    It's not British anymore, but what does she say between "My friend told about..." and "... I said: it's funny", and then after "I took it like a lamb"?
    Yes, her voice is beautiful and her accent "sounds like Garbo looked" (from 1935 to 1941 )



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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    It's not British anymore, but what does she say between "My friend told about..." and "... I said: it's funny", and then after "I took it like a lamb"?
    Yes, her voice is beautiful and her accent "sounds like Garbo looked" (from 1935 to 1941 )
    It's not making any sense to me but I think she's saying..."My friend told me about the night he raised his [hat?] and how it brought him ecstasy. I said it's funny..."

    and later...
    "...cause he was in the mood, mmhmm, to see his daughter wooed, mmhmm, I took it like a lamb, a fool I am, I push a pram, 'cause ..."

    after 5x ...what an absolutely annoying song!

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Maybe we should correct ourselves... he says something more like "[(...) guests has asked me to keep it... him...the urn with him inside ??????".

    Their voices are so velvety throaty and reverberating, one of the many reasons I love men so much...
    Ahh, yes, obvious now that it's in print.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaysizzles View Post
    It's not making any sense to me but I think she's saying..."My friend told me about the night he raised his [hat?] and how it brought him ecstasy. I said it's funny..."

    and later...
    "...cause he was in the mood, mmhmm, to see his daughter wooed, mmhmm, I took it like a lamb, a fool I am, I push a pram, 'cause ..."

    after 5x ...what an absolutely annoying song!

    Thank you.
    Yes, abso-de-lutely deliciously annoying

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    "Um, James, I need to ask you a favour"
    "Yes, of course if I can. That's not what I think it is."
    "Inside this urn is the 21 year old son of one of our guests"
    "(Are you) out of your mind, bringing human remains into my restaurant?"
    "The guest has asked me to keep it...him...the urn with him inside he's asked me to keep it somewhere safe"
    "Might I suggest this may sound a little old fashioned, the hotel safe?"
    "The hotel safe is full"
    "Your office then"
    "Everytime I go and work I'll become overwhelmingly conscious that I'm sharing the room with a...with a corpse"
    "In powder form, not nearly as eery surely?"
    "Eery enough, which is why I'd like you to store it for me"
    "In the Restaurant?"
    "You've got lots of cupboards"
    "For storing napkins and cutlery...not the dead"
    "Isn't your pay review due in a month?"
    "I am shocked and apalled by the ease in which you'd abuse your position"
    "So am I, but I think to myself why have my position if I can't abuse it every now and again? I'll just leave it here"
    "No, No, No, You can't Jack"

    No need for thanks XD Used to love this show!

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