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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishin View Post
    Hmm I think I may have mis-worded my post into having you (mis)perceive its point as being a confrontational critic of Mozart's music...

    You're right about the poor analogy with Lady Gaga though, with a nuance in my case, it's not as much the fame of said individuals than the force-feeding I got of their work as a pupil... ie I as force-fed with Molière at school to the point of disgust by just hearing the name, Mozart reminds me of the awful beginner/children pieces I was force fed with at music school... that explains my present irrational allergy to them... but doesn't bar a change of heart from happening as I meet such heart-changing piece of sample of their work...



    Oh noes... I may not care directly about the object causing it much but I am actually interested in what (the process/qualities that) elicits in others a response different than it does to me, and behaviors derived from these interests.
    Hence my original question.
    Your posting of 70~80% of Mozart is what I was questioning about, I wasn't sure if it related to a scholarly research/interest of sort (as in ok this month I will be reviewing all of [author/composer]'s work) or a great liking somehow seemingly bordering obsession, or yet something else... just innocent curiosity really




    I also now realize that you may actually be following the thread's purpose more accurately than I do and assumed other did by just posting what you're listening to (as opposed to posting what you're listening to and want to promote!) Attachment 917048
    Dmn, I had missed that post of your up there... the force-feeding excuse is as poor as Queen Elizabeth's sense of style..: I rediscovered or, rather, truly discovered, Flaubert, Byron, Austen or Lope once I had gained the training to appreciate their specific writing, and not just the general style, subject or their mere inclusion in a school program.

    AS for my preference, I mentioned it, but I will try to make it more obvious: I have always had a longing to attain what can satisfy me fully, in my own performance as in what surrounds me, and one of my biggest obsessions ever since I was a kid is to experience a moment of maximal plenitude... since I do not trust that I will ever be able to produce it myself, much less to find real love or/and friendship, and not just petty ordinary life pet-love, I stick to Racine or Mozart, until I pass away, I think that is the idea.

    From Mozart I used to listen and enjoy just the grrrrreat works (Piano concertos, quartets and quintets, last three violin, K364, a couple sonatas... you know...) except for his symphonies: you can see from my posts that I have always adored every composition (well, mauybe except from just a couple - one, two- of his very earlier ones) but now, just like I have been developing a greater sensibility along with a deeper (though still way to go) knowledge of musical composition. That's how now I am getting for the auditive what I got years ago for the visual, and learned, instinctively, not forced in any way, to realize how fugly is Puccini or how pale and decadent the Casta Diva is compared with any Mozart aria, just like Schönfeld or Rosa can be so superior to David or Ingres (blwwwwaaahhh!!) or Bouguereau in their own terms.

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    back to back





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    I'm about to take a nap, and this mix is really helping to calm me down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Dmn, I had missed that post of your up there... the force-feeding excuse is as poor as Queen Elizabeth's sense of style..: I rediscovered or, rather, truly discovered, Flaubert, Byron, Austen or Lope once I had gained the training to appreciate their specific writing, and not just the general style, subject or their mere inclusion in a school program.
    I need a minimum sense of connection to be able to connect to something, I don't think I can ever relate with Molière, his language, culture, customs of his times, they seem so alien to me...
    Can we agree on the fact that you didn't appreciate some authors because you lacked something required to apprehend them at the time?

    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    AS for my preference, I mentioned it, but I will try to make it more obvious: I have always had a longing to attain what can satisfy me fully, in my own performance as in what surrounds me, and one of my biggest obsessions ever since I was a kid is to experience a moment of maximal plenitude... since I do not trust that I will ever be able to produce it myself, much less to find real love or/and friendship, and not just petty ordinary life pet-love, I stick to Racine or Mozart, until I pass away, I think that is the idea.
    I don't know how old you are, it's a bit sad that you apparently never experienced such plenitude through love yet, even if only once
    Have you tried LSD/ecstasy ?


    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    From Mozart I used to listen and enjoy just the grrrrreat works (Piano concertos, quartets and quintets, last three violin, K364, a couple sonatas... you know...) except for his symphonies: you can see from my posts that I have always adored every composition (well, mauybe except from just a couple - one, two- of his very earlier ones) but now, just like I have been developing a greater sensibility along with a deeper (though still way to go) knowledge of musical composition. That's how now I am getting for the auditive what I got years ago for the visual, and learned, instinctively, not forced in any way, to realize how fugly is Puccini or how pale and decadent the Casta Diva is compared with any Mozart aria, just like Schönfeld or Rosa can be so superior to David or Ingres (blwwwwaaahhh!!) or Bouguereau in their own terms.
    Ok but what about Bach, Vivaldi or Rachmaninov? Does Mozart have a monopoly on connecting with your heart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post


    I'm about to take a nap, and this mix is really helping to calm me down.
    Quite soothing, I loved the unexpected vocal inclusion around 45mn in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishin View Post
    I need a minimum sense of connection to be able to connect to something, I don't think I can ever relate with Molière, his language, culture, customs of his times, they seem so alien to me...
    Can we agree on the fact that you didn't appreciate some authors because you lacked something required to apprehend them at the time?

    Like the "sense of connection" other people need to identify with or, at least, get interested enough in Scottish landlords or conspiring muderers of the Middle Ages, sharpshooters of the Far West or thug criminals of American hoods of the 2000s?

    What I lacked was the sense of discernement and the experience to tell the difference between Flaubert's and Hammett's narrative style, or between the former's descriptive style and that of Zola; to appreciate the rhythm and flow of a Byron and a Pope, the Lope of Olmedo and that of Fuenteovejuna, or that of the prose of Austen or Defoe's Crusoe and that of Dickens, Scott and Swift.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nishin View Post


    I don't know how old you are, it's a bit sad that you apparently never experienced such plenitude through love yet, even if only once
    Have you tried LSD/ecstasy ?


    So you give further proof that people who fall madly in love, and not just get ridiculously infatuated as has been my case sometime, are people who, not simply are out of their senses, but have no senses left at all anymore.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nishin View Post



    Ok but what about Bach, Vivaldi or Rachmaninov? Does Mozart have a monopoly on connecting with your heart?
    Bach makes the cut. People would get revolted any time the triad Mozart-Beethoven-Bach is mentioned, because it means nothing to them, just a repetitive refrain that gets on their nerves like that in a song of the Princess of Poop (sic), but they would not react the same when The Beatles or whatever are mentioned as some godly staples of music "of all time" (which we can assume must include absolutely everything down from Euripides or Machaut down to Gaga.
    If you want to torture me and kill me, seriously, use Vivaldi. I won't even "stoop to discussing" the other one.

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    Roots (no, Not Jimmy Fallons Questo and...either) Different moods, different music for me








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    I wish someone would finally render all that music AS the XVIIIth century intented... not just more or less approximately.

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    The Binding of Isaac - The Binding of Isaac

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    Quote Originally Posted by tombastep View Post
    The Binding of Isaac - The Binding of Isaac
    How kinky... http://pastorblog.cumcdebary.org/wp-..._And_Isaac.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Like the "sense of connection" other people need to identify with or, at least, get interested enough in Scottish landlords or conspiring muderers of the Middle Ages, sharpshooters of the Far West or thug criminals of American hoods of the 2000s?
    I ... guess?
    I really have no idea what you're talking about... are you talking of Hollywood movies?

    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    What I lacked was the sense of discernement and the experience to tell the difference between Flaubert's and Hammett's narrative style, or between the former's descriptive style and that of Zola; to appreciate the rhythm and flow of a Byron and a Pope, the Lope of Olmedo and that of Fuenteovejuna, or that of the prose of Austen or Defoe's Crusoe and that of Dickens, Scott and Swift.
    In other words, one needs variety in exposure to gain discernment and appreciation... correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    So you give further proof that people who fall madly in love, and not just get ridiculously infatuated as has been my case sometime, are people who, not simply are out of their senses, but have no senses left at all anymore.
    I didn't give any proof because that hasn't happened to me than I know of so far, I only know infatuation which is indeed chemical tricks in one's brain... I wouldn't say it's ridiculous though, or is breathing ridiculous? Is eating ridiculous? Did you mean vulgar?
    Love... all I know of it comes from literature or third parties ... I choose to give them the benefit of doubt and I'll let you know if I ever experience that mad love thing !


    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Bach makes the cut. People would get revolted any time the triad Mozart-Beethoven-Bach is mentioned, because it means nothing to them, just a repetitive refrain that gets on their nerves like that in a song of the Princess of Poop (sic), but they would not react the same when The Beatles or whatever are mentioned as some godly staples of music "of all time" (which we can assume must include absolutely everything down from Euripides or Machaut down to Gaga.
    If you want to torture me and kill me, seriously, use Vivaldi. I won't even "stoop to discussing" the other one.
    Sure, as long as you promise not to cover the music with your screams as you're slowly dying

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    Johan I am loving it....

    I came across a song for Cotton:



    I am loving this guys music... this a title you may have heard and also a beautifully written song....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishin View Post
    Quite soothing, I loved the unexpected vocal inclusion around 45mn in
    Incidentally, that's my favourite part.

    I also love the track that starts just after the 1:00:00 mark.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    I am loving this guys music... this a title you may have heard and also a beautifully written song....
    Great taste, I love this song. I was actually introduced to it when a music promoter I'm subscribed to on Youtube uploaded this Fred V remix.



    I enjoy both versions equally depending on my mood.

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    The music I'm not ashamed to admit that I dance to in just my boxers whilst folding laundry and doing chores aroud my apartment - Gareth Emery and Ashley Wallbridge - "DUI". Anytime Gaz and Ashley get together, it's a true treat for the ears.

    Dallas Pride - 9.21.2014
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    love me tender by elvis. my "death by powerballad" playlist is on!

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    FM 88.7 Houston KUHF FM NPR MORNING EDITION.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishin View Post
    I ... guess?
    I really have no idea what you're talking about... are you talking of Hollywood movies?
    No, only the manure that mucks that sort of movies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nishin View Post


    In other words, one needs variety in exposure to gain discernment and appreciation... correct?
    No. NO. NO! Like usually happens, you could go through very different pieces of creation and consider all of them in the same way, according to the same expectations, and at most liking some more than the others only because you do, not even according to those principles and prejudices.
    What I was talking about is the actual language, the musical language like the writers' languages... people consider writing, literature still very much like those who can get art unless it is figurative: they think that if they see, they read "dog" in a story it is basically about a dog, even when they can have a hard time telling what a dog is... because they "know", they "feel" what is all that about.
    The language of a writer is not "style" either: it is not a funny, fancy deviation from the supposedly "real", "normal" language, not something you find interesting or somehow makes you feel something, just because it does.

    What I was talking about is about learning to read what is actually written, not what is being written about, or what YOU FEEL it is "saying" to you because it sounds more "natural" (whatever you want that to mean) to you, less pompous, more "modern"... that is, because you enjoy yourself (I am so glad the English language affords here that opportunity) so much that you need to convince yourself and the rest, first that it is not actually about yourself, but about Shakespeare, or Puccini, or The Beatles and, second that there IS some sort of objective inner reason, which your imbecility (both old and modern sense) can only spew as "beauty", that somehow account for both your feelings and your words about them as something clever that is shared by others, not because they are just as stupid, but because it IS "true".


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    melody, melody and rhythm


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    The Penis Song, (from "The Sweetest Thing) Christina Applegate, Cameron Diaz, Selma Blair





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    Sean Mackey - Sundown



    Love this track, and the artwork too.

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    one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

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    Yeah, I know it's Koopman, but... the rest is even worse, and I don't have te nerve, right now, to go digging for what most probably won't be there.


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