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    Quote Originally Posted by FGordon View Post
    who are the people or organizations that donate the most for stuff to help the bullied?im over 60 i was bashed -sick of mean people--there should be drop in centers in every town--create a list of those places or churches
    Goodwill and The Salvation Army are both very homophobic organizations. Most of their donations go to drug abusers. So it's damned if you, damned if you do don't.

    Since this is a LGBT community of some sort, and we do take up a big margin of homelessness and suicide, try to find LGBT community centers and shelters in your area and donate there.
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    It strikes me as odd that back during Martin Luther King's day, there were many black churches which were known as refuges for blacks who were subjected to violence -- and they were protected by armed folks who understood that the best way to stop bashing is to let the would-be bashers know they're facing armed citizens and therefore should just leave, for their own health.

    Any adult being harassed or bashed should seek out the local Pink Pistols.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    ^
    It strikes me as odd that back during Martin Luther King's day, there were many black churches which were known as refuges for blacks who were subjected to violence -- and they were protected by armed folks who understood that the best way to stop bashing is to let the would-be bashers know they're facing armed citizens and therefore should just leave, for their own health.

    Any adult being harassed or bashed should seek out the local Pink Pistols.
    I suffer from bi polar disorder so I can't get a gun permit, which sucks. But I'm not pro or anti gun, so I support the Pink Pistols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taralen View Post
    I suffer from bi polar disorder so I can't get a gun permit, which sucks. But I'm not pro or anti gun, so I support the Pink Pistols.
    You need a permit for a gun? It's called the Second Amendment. Unless you're talking about carrying; California is on the bashers' side on that one.

    BTW, if anyone is feeling suicidal and owns any guns, contacting your local Pink Pistols is a good idea then, too -- many Pink Pistols chapters have people who have, unfortunately, had to deal with that issue, and they can be trusted to keep your guns away from you until you're stable again.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    I knew a kid in high school that put the barrel of a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. Sad. It took almost 20yrs and then it hit me. He was gay. I was bullied as a kid. Even in grade school. Not because I was gay (didn't even know what that was back then). I was different. I learned how to fight back. And I did.

    When I was 15, I actually tied a noose around my neck. The only thing that stopped me was that I knew it would probably kill my mother. In my early 20's, I thought about it again. Had I not seen an ad under personals in the local paper, I might have. OIM (Out In Montana) saved my life. I found out that I wasn't alone and that I had support.

    Today there are numerous places to find support. Both online and off. None of that was available when I was a teenager.
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    On May 21 of this year, I came home from feeding lunch to folks at a transgender event and found my husband dead. I knew he had wrestled with many demons over the course of his life, starting with a very abusive and horrible childhood. While he had stuffed those demons away for nearly the eight years we were together (and five married), they returned while attending a funeral of his favorite uncle (and last of those who took him and his father and brother in when his mother would throw them out and get restraining orders). Unbeknownst to me, he had also bought Molly -- one of the side effects being extreme depression the day after. I thought he had drank too much the night before; it turned out that while he had also drank too much, he also did Molly.

    There is help. In Washington, DC, contact the DC Center which has a host of groups and help available to deal with depression. With the advent of the Affordable Care Act, most policies contain riders or assistance for counseling sessions and may also cover in-house treatment if required. We are going to endow a fund to assist people suffering from depression and contemplating suicide. While it is too late for Barry, I hope it will help even one more person not follow his path.

    If you are thinking Molly, Tina, Meth, or alcohol will help, please contact one of the many gay-focused help groups. The un-talked about side effect of many of these is even deeper depression. Reading Barry's texts, email, and messages in the days leading up to his death, there emerges a person I never knew and who no one else saw. He was a high-achieving depression sufferer. If you see a guy in booty shorts looking like the leader of the party -- they might just be one. That type is the most difficult to diagnose and spot because they are masters at putting on new masks that hide any symptom.

    And don't forget to reach out to someone else. One thing I'm finding after Barry's death is there are a lot of people suffering from similar bouts and yet do so alone (one of those committed suicide last weekend). Barry had an ability to walk into a room and spot the people who were alone; he also had the confidence to walk up and start talking to them and introduce others (if you were older, he usually had an added spring in his step!). While I am "okay" at that, I know I need to do more and encourage everyone to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewiz View Post
    On May 21 of this year, I came home from feeding lunch to folks at a transgender event and found my husband dead. I knew he had wrestled with many demons over the course of his life, starting with a very abusive and horrible childhood. While he had stuffed those demons away for nearly the eight years we were together (and five married), they returned while attending a funeral of his favorite uncle (and last of those who took him and his father and brother in when his mother would throw them out and get restraining orders). Unbeknownst to me, he had also bought Molly -- one of the side effects being extreme depression the day after. I thought he had drank too much the night before; it turned out that while he had also drank too much, he also did Molly.

    There is help. In Washington, DC, contact the DC Center which has a host of groups and help available to deal with depression. With the advent of the Affordable Care Act, most policies contain riders or assistance for counseling sessions and may also cover in-house treatment if required. We are going to endow a fund to assist people suffering from depression and contemplating suicide. While it is too late for Barry, I hope it will help even one more person not follow his path.

    If you are thinking Molly, Tina, Meth, or alcohol will help, please contact one of the many gay-focused help groups. The un-talked about side effect of many of these is even deeper depression. Reading Barry's texts, email, and messages in the days leading up to his death, there emerges a person I never knew and who no one else saw. He was a high-achieving depression sufferer. If you see a guy in booty shorts looking like the leader of the party -- they might just be one. That type is the most difficult to diagnose and spot because they are masters at putting on new masks that hide any symptom.

    And don't forget to reach out to someone else. One thing I'm finding after Barry's death is there are a lot of people suffering from similar bouts and yet do so alone (one of those committed suicide last weekend). Barry had an ability to walk into a room and spot the people who were alone; he also had the confidence to walk up and start talking to them and introduce others (if you were older, he usually had an added spring in his step!). While I am "okay" at that, I know I need to do more and encourage everyone to do the same.

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    That is horrible I'm so sorry for your loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbrown329 View Post
    I knew a kid in high school that put the barrel of a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. Sad. It took almost 20yrs and then it hit me. He was gay. I was bullied as a kid. Even in grade school. Not because I was gay (didn't even know what that was back then). I was different. I learned how to fight back. And I did.

    When I was 15, I actually tied a noose around my neck. The only thing that stopped me was that I knew it would probably kill my mother. In my early 20's, I thought about it again. Had I not seen an ad under personals in the local paper, I might have. OIM (Out In Montana) saved my life. I found out that I wasn't alone and that I had support.

    Today there are numerous places to find support. Both online and off. None of that was available when I was a teenager.
    So true about places to find support. I remember once in a "I'd rather be dead" episode in which I walked across streets without checking traffic, when I was banging on the door of a church figuring someone would help. What did I get? A card referring me to a social agency that wasn't open for another fifteen hours. That's when I started realizing that however much many many people say they would help someone suicidal, they really don't want to be bothered.

    Though when I was a teenager, there was one place to go: the local Roman Catholic church still had nuns, and they never turned anyone away. Now the nuns are gone, but there's a 24/7 help hotline, something we never had.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    So true about places to find support. I remember once in a "I'd rather be dead" episode in which I walked across streets without checking traffic, when I was banging on the door of a church figuring someone would help. What did I get? A card referring me to a social agency that wasn't open for another fifteen hours. That's when I started realizing that however much many many people say they would help someone suicidal, they really don't want to be bothered.

    Though when I was a teenager, there was one place to go: the local Roman Catholic church still had nuns, and they never turned anyone away. Now the nuns are gone, but there's a 24/7 help hotline, something we never had.
    Yeah, there's a 24hr line here to call. I didn't explain what OIM was. They would take out ads in the Personals page in the local newspaper. There was a phone number and I mustered up the courage to call. They helped me come to terms with my sexuality. It was for and run by LGBTs. It's still there some 30+yrs later. Different name but the same thing.

    Nothing like that where I live now and it's a far larger city (approx 215K in the metro area as of 2015). Whereas the city I moved from is approx 70K in the metro area. Back in the early 80's, it was around 50K.
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    I'm too embarrassed to put this under my real user name. Right now I just feel like I am trying to break down the walls to even do what I thinking about doing.

    I've never cried this much in my life before and I don't really know why I am even crying as much as I am now.

    I want to dump all my money into my boyfriends bank account but at the same time I am scared of doing it because I know then and there I've made my decision.

    A lot of things hurt and I don't really want them to. I don't even know why I am writing this, I guess I just want something somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalsfading View Post
    I'm too embarrassed to put this under my real user name. Right now I just feel like I am trying to break down the walls to even do what I thinking about doing.

    I've never cried this much in my life before and I don't really know why I am even crying as much as I am now.

    I want to dump all my money into my boyfriends bank account but at the same time I am scared of doing it because I know then and there I've made my decision.

    A lot of things hurt and I don't really want them to. I don't even know why I am writing this, I guess I just want something somewhere.
    Please contact the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention Lifeline/Hotline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255).

    I hope that you are able to see this message and please let them help you in whatever way you desire. I never understood the hurt and pain that some people mask but do know there are people who are there to help. While my days are getting better, the pain and loss continue as reminders and I'd do anything to go back in time and intervene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalsfading View Post
    I'm too embarrassed to put this under my real user name. Right now I just feel like I am trying to break down the walls to even do what I thinking about doing.

    I've never cried this much in my life before and I don't really know why I am even crying as much as I am now.

    I want to dump all my money into my boyfriends bank account but at the same time I am scared of doing it because I know then and there I've made my decision.

    A lot of things hurt and I don't really want them to. I don't even know why I am writing this, I guess I just want something somewhere.
    No matter how bad things are suicide is not the answer. We all have our issues and problems and they work themselves out. I know sometimes things seem hopeless but you just gotta keep going. Things will get better and do get better. If you don't want to chat with a suicide prevention hot line feel free to PM me and I would be more than happy to chat with you.

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