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    All these discussions about law and legal age and underage characters I find to be extremely hypocritical. If this forum is removing images based on the portrayed age of characters involved, even fictional characters, then those doing the censorship should do some further research and censor equally based on whatever policy or law they are standing by. For example, Aladdin is portrayed as 15 to 17 thru the several feature movies and the majority of the animated series. Also, all of the members of Young Justice are also under the age of 18. Mandark from Dexter's Lab is absolutely underage. Maxwell from Gundam Wing is only 15, as is Sokka from The Last Airbender. In Final Fantasy 8 Squall Leonhart is only 17. Zuko is only 16 in The Last Airbender. Link from the Zelda franchise is routinely depicted as being between 10 years of age and 17. The characters from the Teen Titans series are all underage except for Cyborg. Nightcrawler is only 17 in the X-men Evolution animated series. So yeah. If we're going to go around censoring and removing images for violation of an underage media law, perhaps some additional research should be performed, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aweduba1 View Post
    Why do nude cartoon men always have LARGE penises?
    I absolutely hate cartoons with small ones. I think dicks should be exaggerated as often as possible in toons.

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    1 post and a lecture- I'm sensing a duplicate account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Críostóir View Post
    ...But the topic really was the laws about depictions. Even under this protection theory I can't imagine by what stretch the Edward porn would protect anyone. The ACTOR is way over 18. The CHARACTER is over 100! The actor doesn't LOOK under 18 (no fucking way is he a teenager, give me a fucking break). Prohibiting Edward porn protects immortal vampires. THAT is just stupid. That's all I'm saying.

    Btw, I find Edward porn extremely distasteful too. Just so you know.
    My friend, it isn't primarily a 'protection' law. It's about the misbelief that "because an actual child wasn't involved, there's no harm in it". The underlying message that these cartoons are sending out is that sexual scenerarios involving minors are okay. It's this blurring of fantasy and reality that is being addressed. People should stop and ask themselves why they find a cartoon of a 16yr old jerking-off appealing when they wouldn't find an image of a real 16yr old appealing. For most of us, the difference between reality and fantasy is very clear, and we are very much aware what is right and wrong. That said, the fact that most of us refer to 'kiddie porn' or 'child porn' is an example of how much we don't fully understand the dynamics of it. Porn and sexual acts between humans are something to enjoy. These children aren't enjoying this, they are being sexually abused - which is why we need to start referring to it as child sexual abuse. Artists creating these cartoons are not creating sexually erotic pictures - they're drawing images portraying child sexual abuse. Perhaps if they were more realistic instead of cartoons people would see what I mean.

    The bottom line is that in the years since the ruling, authorities such as ASACP (the Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection), IWF (International Web Foundation) and other agencies responsible for removing child sexual abuse from the net and bringing those responsible to court, are now considering a greater variety of 'non-photographic images of child abuse' on the same par as photographic images.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Rift View Post
    All these discussions about law and legal age and underage characters I find to be extremely hypocritical. If this forum is removing images based on the portrayed age of characters involved, even fictional characters, then those doing the censorship should do some further research and censor equally based on whatever policy or law they are standing by. For example, Aladdin is portrayed as 15 to 17 thru the several feature movies and the majority of the animated series. Also, all of the members of Young Justice are also under the age of 18. Mandark from Dexter's Lab is absolutely underage. Maxwell from Gundam Wing is only 15, as is Sokka from The Last Airbender. In Final Fantasy 8 Squall Leonhart is only 17. Zuko is only 16 in The Last Airbender. Link from the Zelda franchise is routinely depicted as being between 10 years of age and 17. The characters from the Teen Titans series are all underage except for Cyborg. Nightcrawler is only 17 in the X-men Evolution animated series. So yeah. If we're going to go around censoring and removing images for violation of an underage media law, perhaps some additional research should be performed, no?
    I quite agree with you. Personally, I don't spend my time watching cartoons and therefore most of the characters are new to me. In this respect, I'm learning something new everyday - and the information you've provided will be added to my knowledge base and acted upon. It's a shame more members aren't as forthcoming in assisting in these matters - even though you did choose to criticise my ability rather than the character of the people who get off on fantasy scenarios involving minors.... but you're new, and I'll forgive you.
    Last edited by quasar; July 2nd, 2012 at 09:58 AM.

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    quasar, I'd just like to say that I don't think cartoon images of children engaged in sex should be allowed here, and in my heart I want them to be prohibited everywhere for exactly the reasons you cite. Some of the edge cases are stupid (which to be fair is true of any law). That's all I'm saying, and I think I've made my point to the extent it's useful.
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    Dear everyone, this forum is not congress. It doesn't matter who agrees or disagrees with what laws JUB is not going to commit federal crime because some people disagree. Love it or hate it it is the law. Can we stop debating and move on?

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    Everyone was ready to, falconfan. Now it's incumbent (pun intended) upon YOU to provide the thing to move on TO.
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    So I was babysitting my godson yesterday and we were watching The Chipmunks meet the Wolfman, and WOW David Seville is Hot and I think he might be gay, dont remember him dating or anything back when they were popular!!

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