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    Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    I am here to discuss the aftermath of the contest that is going to be held on 20th May 2010 on FB regarding drawing Prophet Muhammad. I thought the world is moving towards the state of peace. However acts like that is going to light up flames that will start another series of violence, the last publishing of toons caused 100 deaths. How many do you expect now?

    Its not about the question of freedom. Is it fair to hurt the sentiments of others, while hoping they will not react?

    I am an agnostic Muslim, and I have tolerance for such acts, let them do what they want to, but the question is "What they are doing, is it right?"

    The reaction has already started, with protests planned on 20th May, the telecommunication authority here in Pakistan has already banned several links leading to that FB page.

    Your hard earned tax were invested in creating a positive image of you folks in East, however I see that money going down the drain.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    the last publishing of toons caused 100 deaths.
    How so? .............

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    Quote Originally Posted by fetaby View Post
    How so? .............
    Reaction to violence, people killing each other.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jylland...ns_controversy
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    This led to protests across the Muslim world, some of which escalated into violence with police firing on the crowds (resulting in a total of more than 100 deaths)
    I see. .............

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    My FB page is not opening, filtering already started, conferences regarding the "Violent protest" on their way. I am having a panic attack.
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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    I suggest staying inside until all the protesting is over.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    The thing is that we don't censor other people's opinions and we've learned to deal with them even if we don't like what we hear or see. It's sometimes not the easier way, but it's worth to accept other people so you can expect to be accepted as well.

    I personally feel hurt when I see all the suffering and pain that is dealt upon people for religious reasons. That's why I have come to dislike any kind of religion, no matter what god or goddess. And I use my ways to show my feelings towards religion, whether their followers like it or not. And frankly said I give a shit if they are hurt as long as they give a shit if I'm hurt by their actions.

    Starting the so called protests is ridiculous. Don't those protesters realize that they are just monkeys, puppets on a string, cheap fools of their governments, leaders, scholars? I alway crack up lauging when I see protests like this in countries where usually no three people can get together without being closely watched by the secret service, religious police or whomever.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Religion has, is, and always will be used as a way to control the masses. The 'cop out' for most religions when asked about why God / Allah / Yahweh / (insert appropriate deity) allows suffering in the world is that 'God etc gave mankind freewill, and therefore mankind is in control'.

    This is equally true of organised religious protests. God etc doesn't organise protests - men do. After all, why have peace amongst nations and religions when so much more money can be made from war and violence?

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by JyStar View Post
    I'm really beyond the point of caring about extremist muslims and their death threats, because you're taking your ideals and forcing them on those that don't even believe what you believe.

    You want to prove you're not a war religion? Get a sense of fucking humor, and leave us alone. And stop blaming everything on American's, as if other countries didn't draw Muhammad before... hell, we've already done it - the only thing that changed was the mass hysteria of 9/11. Now we have to fear everything. Fuck it.

    *waits to be slandered by the muslim populace here*
    Before the Muslims, a humanist fellow is here to slander you.

    Your statement is kind of laughable. It is the same mentality of "why they hate us?" that has blinded most Americans. We don't have any moral standing to say so given the last 100 years of our history. Let's start with 9/11. We've invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and have killed hundreds of thousands of humans, I am not using the word Muslims here.

    It looks extremely bigoted when an American thinks that he or she is innocent. What about collective, national guilt? Oh and did I mention the causalities of both World Wars, Japanese atomic bomb attacks, Vietnam, Laos and CIA-sponsored South American barbarian regimes? It's time that 'we' leave them alone.

    Here I will hit the nerve of Muslims as well. It looks stupid to have these violent protests. Why not you guys adopt civilized ways of protesting? Internet is open to everyone and you can launch counter attacks.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Effortless_Pro View Post
    How exactly can you be an agnostic muslim?


    (I'd also ask the question to anyone who professed to be an agnostic jew,christian, etc...)
    Can't speak for the OP but philosophically it is possible to be an agnostic theist in that one believes a deity exists but cannot prove it as known.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Maybe your people could just accept that not everyone believes in their god, or any god, and they could stop killing people over a drawing. You are not entitled to not be offended. Unlike the middle east, the west is not a theocracy.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Read the thread about the draw Mohammed day.

    I have the most profound respect for others' religious beliefs.

    As long as they keep those religious beliefs among the adherents of their religion.

    The whole issue with portraying Mohammed is the misinterpretation of the Qu'ran and a sectarian iconoclastic battle even within Islamic society. I have noted that many islamic countries are actually quite lax on the use of human images, which is the overarching proscription.

    Just because the wahabi fundamentalists forbid the use of any human or animal images doesn't make it universal law. No more so than the difference between the Catholic faith and the fundamentalist protestant religions over the use of representations of God, Christ and the whole lot of saints.

    So bring it on. It is time for the fundamental Islamists to learn that they can't literally run riot over the world every time they feel a slight against their beliefs.

    I've seen pictures of Mohammed. Done by Islamic artists. From several hundred years ago. I have seen Islamists revere relics of Mohammed and his family; something totally not intended for the same reason that Mohammed eschewed human and animal representation.

    Until people of all religions accept that theirs is only one way and not the only way, I say bring it on. If there were 20 million pictures of the prophet, the threats of violence would lose their power.

    Strict Islamists would still never draw the prophet, or any other human or animal and thereby adhere to their personal religious principles.

    We are increasingly tired of living in a world where we are constantly being dragged backward by medieval tribal societies usually led by cynical tyrants and religious zealots.

    Lots of people don't respect the same things as I do. But I don't threaten them with death.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Regardless of the issues of religion and political manipulations

    (Which both the Muslim World and the Western World are plenty guilty of)

    You cannot expect US to behave the same way you behave, believe the same thing you believe. We have our own country, and our own values.

    One of our greatest values is Freedom of expression, the same value that gives us the right to have gay pornography available on the internet. Which I am willing to bet is illegal in your country. Gives us the right to mock other religions if we so wish.

    Do I agree with their cartoon? Not at all, I believe in respecting all believes, peacefully. But I also believe that it's their right to do what they did.

    Rights are not about allowing what makes us comfortable, is about allowing what makes us uncomfortable.


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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Oh Lord, imagine if people in my country should protest everytime the Americans behave like racists dicks, we should all be dead over here.

    I for one defend the liberty of citizens of another country being able to do as fuck they want (in this case draw a cartoon of that imbecile who gave us the scourge that is the Muslum Religion).

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Thanks to whom ? It would seem to me that credit belongs to the Islamic extremists who believe that it is justified to set automobiles afire, or bomb the Danish embassy in Islamabad because of Danes exercising their right of freedom of speech and expression. There most likely would not even be a Draw the Prophet day on Facebook, had the original furor back in 2005 not occurred.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    In effect the OP is saying, do what you like, as long as it doesn't offend me.

    Clearly the OP is easily offended by caricatures of a long deceased human being.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss View Post
    the last publishing of toons caused 100 deaths. How many do you expect now?
    OK, let's cut the dumb-ass bullshit.

    What "caused" the 100 deaths wasn't the cartoons was a bunch of crazy fundamentalist murderers.
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    This thread is like a guy who beats his wife and then says "well she SHOULDN'T HAVE BURNED DINNER!!!"
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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Maybe...just maybe..If we draw enough enough images, all the fundamentalist will go into a bloody rampage so great they will end up killing themselves.

    Its something to hope for, right? Or maybe, god forbid, they grow some sense of humanity, and humor.
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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss View Post
    As you sow so shall you reap.
    really? because we revere and support the freedom of expression in these united states we're supposed to back down because extremist religious nut jobs on the other side of the planet are offended? over a drawing?

    pardon me but frak that noise.

    why is it that the rest of the world has to back peddle to make a bunch of religious zealots happy? this isn't the 10th century, live in the now.

    and for the record, i don't have a problem with you or anyone's religious beliefs so long as they don't infringe upon me.




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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Why is this supposed to be thanks to Americans ?

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Here at the naval base right outside Chicago, there are about 5 Pakistani military in one of the engineering A schools on the mainside of the base. I went to A school on the corpsman side.

    There are also two african (the country they are from escapes me) military going to A school on corps side learning the most rudimentary of medical skills (not even field medicine).

    Seems a waste of money when the citizens just screw it all up. The pakistani navy guys will go away with a better understanding of ship maintenance and will prob use it to kill american service men. Probably the same sailors who they ate free popeyes with at the USO the day before payday.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by 3nipples View Post
    Why is this supposed to be thanks to Americans ?
    Because the world has now become a world without any personal accountability.

    When a woman is raped, it's HER fault... when a child is beaten, it's the child's fault.

    When a gay person is bashed, it's the GAY guy's fault.

    And now when a cartoonist is killed by bat shit crazy fundamentalists, it's the cartoonist's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GL View Post
    really? because we revere and support the freedom of expression in these united states we're supposed to back down because extremist religious nut jobs on the other side of the planet are offended? over a drawing?

    pardon me but frak that noise.

    why is it that the rest of the world has to back peddle to make a bunch of religious zealots happy? this isn't the 10th century, live in the now.

    and for the record, i don't have a problem with you or anyone's religious beliefs so long as they don't infringe upon me.
    You aren't just offending the islamic extremist, your also offending and angering the moderate islamist who probably supported America and the cause and probably tried to argue the American point in the mosques and to their friends.

    This just makes it hard for them to defend anything when people want to be so stupid.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Alright, done reading every post here, except two sensible persons who understood my point, the whole crowd is high on Estrogen.

    Read carefully.

    1. Since millions of people reported the FB profile of that contest as abusive, FB didn't remove it. Fine, I am cool with it, but it feels like shit when 40,000 Americans protested against privacy rules of FB, and FB responded.

    2. Why Americans? FB is incorporated and running its operations from there. Your Govt. can take actions, which It didn't. And as a result I am deprived of my FB profile for 10 days.

    3. Why can't you bloody understand that on the name of freedom, you just can't enter someone's house and rape the whole family, but again you wanted to express yourself freely.

    4. How would you feel if I start "Draw A Osama day, killing Americans!", Nah it will hurt you bad, and but well then again I am a fucking Muslim.

    5. You don't understand it, because the reaction has started in this part of world, all you think is "Hey its their house on fire! why should I care?". You know what, don't ask for sympathy when more shits like Osama will rise out of these incidents, you are giving those Talibans a justification for their nasty work. By acting this cold you will lose the ones who have positive attitude towards you people.

    6. I am not asking you to give up any right of yours, but to live in peace, we all have to compensate. Be it a small part of our so called freedom.

    7. I am not even supporting the behavior of these fucking retard Muslim brothers of Mine, they are not suppose to react, as to create more room for hatred. I was protesting too but on the same platform, by signing petitions on FB. A peaceful way of imparting the idea that "Hey that is not fair"
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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    This whole deal is a crock of shit, you don't see Catholic's threatening to excommunicate Jay Leno every time he cracks a joke about molestation, join the real world of freedom and get over yourselves. The whole killing over my God is better than your God is really getting old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss View Post
    Alright, done reading every post here, except two sensible persons who understood my point, the whole crowd is high on Estrogen.

    Read carefully.

    1. Since millions of people reported the FB profile of that contest as abusive, FB didn't remove it. Fine, I am cool with it, but it feels like shit when 40,000 Americans protested against privacy rules of FB, and FB responded.

    2. Why Americans? FB is incorporated and running its operations from there. Your Govt. can take actions, which It didn't. And as a result I am deprived of my FB profile for 10 days.

    3. Why can't you bloody understand that on the name of freedom, you just can't enter someone's house and rape the whole family, but again you wanted to express yourself freely.

    4. How would you feel if I start "Draw A Osama day, killing Americans!", Nah it will hurt you bad, and but well then again I am a fucking Muslim.

    5. You don't understand it, because the reaction has started in this part of world, all you think is "Hey its their house on fire! why should I care?". You know what, don't ask for sympathy when more shits like Osama will rise out of these incidents, you are giving those Talibans a justification for their nasty work. By acting this cold you will lose the ones who have positive attitude towards you people.

    6. I am not asking you to give up any right of yours, but to live in peace, we all have to compensate. Be it a small part of our so called freedom.

    7. I am not even supporting the behavior of these fucking retards Muslim brothers of Mine, they are not suppose to react, as to create more room for hatred. I was protesting too but on the same platform, by signing petitions on FB. A peaceful way of imparting the idea that "Hey that is not fair"
    So you suggest the rest of the world give into intimidation? I don't see how anyone raped anyone. Get over it. Compensation leads to Freedom of Speech to being regulated and that in turn makes a lot of things fascist so that isn't happening, so in the meantime I suggest you use Twitter.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    ....Meh..I can draw anything and call it Muhammad..nobody knows what he looks like...I think that's the point of the FB thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss View Post
    4. How would you feel if I start "Draw A Osama day, killing Americans!", Nah it will hurt you bad, and but well then again I am a fucking Muslim.
    Yes... Americans would be upset.

    but they wouldn't react by killing the artists. I can pretty much assure you of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IllgetyouHackman View Post
    This whole deal is a crock of shit, you don't see Catholic's threatening to excommunicate Jay Leno every time he cracks a joke about molestation, join the real world of freedom and get over yourselves. The whole killing over my God is better than your God is really getting old.
    Then again, we live in a relatively civilized country where they don't stone rape victims, behead gay people and flog women for driving.

    Just so we have a little cultural perspective.
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    You know what, I will shut up!. Best of luck for your future.

    There is fine distinction between freedom of expression and exploiting other people's belief through your acts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasunStrikesBack View Post
    Yes... Americans would be upset.

    but they wouldn't react by killing the artists. I can pretty much assure you of that.
    You are really believing the information imparted by your media. I am not blaming you. You Govt will pick the artist right from his home, through my Govt. And hey Dr. Aafia Siddiqui fell down the rabbit hole and reached your jails, just like that!
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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    The islamic moderates aren't moved to violence over this.

    If any religion is so fragile that it has to be preserved through violence, then it is no true religion at all. Got that as well, Christians and Jews?

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Religious people are so annoying with all their crap.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss View Post
    Alright, done reading every post here, except two sensible persons who understood my point, the whole crowd is high on Estrogen.

    Read carefully.

    1. Since millions of people reported the FB profile of that contest as abusive, FB didn't remove it. Fine, I am cool with it, but it feels like shit when 40,000 Americans protested against privacy rules of FB, and FB responded.

    2. Why Americans? FB is incorporated and running its operations from there. Your Govt. can take actions, which It didn't. And as a result I am deprived of my FB profile for 10 days.

    3. Why can't you bloody understand that on the name of freedom, you just can't enter someone's house and rape the whole family, but again you wanted to express yourself freely.

    4. How would you feel if I start "Draw A Osama day, killing Americans!", Nah it will hurt you bad, and but well then again I am a fucking Muslim.

    5. You don't understand it, because the reaction has started in this part of world, all you think is "Hey its their house on fire! why should I care?". You know what, don't ask for sympathy when more shits like Osama will rise out of these incidents, you are giving those Talibans a justification for their nasty work. By acting this cold you will lose the ones who have positive attitude towards you people.

    6. I am not asking you to give up any right of yours, but to live in peace, we all have to compensate. Be it a small part of our so called freedom.

    7. I am not even supporting the behavior of these fucking retard Muslim brothers of Mine, they are not suppose to react, as to create more room for hatred. I was protesting too but on the same platform, by signing petitions on FB. A peaceful way of imparting the idea that "Hey that is not fair"
    You do realize you don't need FB right? And how is this abusive? Because it offends someone? Since when did offensive become synonymous with abusive? Who, exactly, is being abused?

    So are you suggesting that the US government intervene and shut down that portion of FB? What's the point of freedom of speech, then? And, yes, you being banned from FB for 10 days (oh the horror!) is FB's and the US government's fault, and not the people that actually blocked it so that you cannot access it! Because, yes indeed, that is the only logical conclusion.

    I'm not even going to bother with the rest. Comparing drawing a picture to raping is so utterly absurd I cannot believe I even have to point it out. Do you ever wonder why so many people are hostile to Islam? If so, please take a closer look at your post.

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    I'm sorry, this is freedom of speech. You can draw whatever the fuck you want to draw. You don't censor yourself because some people might be offended. You don't have the right to go through life without being offended.

    Maybe this is needlessly provocative, but so the fuck what?

    God damn Americaines!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elvin1 View Post
    No. Best of luck to you. I would HATE to be intmidated and live in fear that some of these extremist mob that you are so passionately defending might one day put a rope around my neck for my gay "acts".
    not just yours and mine but his too.




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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss View Post
    Alright, done reading every post here, except two sensible persons who understood my point, the whole crowd is high on Estrogen.

    Read carefully.

    1. Since millions of people reported the FB profile of that contest as abusive, FB didn't remove it. Fine, I am cool with it, but it feels like shit when 40,000 Americans protested against privacy rules of FB, and FB responded.

    2. Why Americans? FB is incorporated and running its operations from there. Your Govt. can take actions, which It didn't. And as a result I am deprived of my FB profile for 10 days.

    3. Why can't you bloody understand that on the name of freedom, you just can't enter someone's house and rape the whole family, but again you wanted to express yourself freely.

    4. How would you feel if I start "Draw A Osama day, killing Americans!", Nah it will hurt you bad, and but well then again I am a fucking Muslim.

    5. You don't understand it, because the reaction has started in this part of world, all you think is "Hey its their house on fire! why should I care?". You know what, don't ask for sympathy when more shits like Osama will rise out of these incidents, you are giving those Talibans a justification for their nasty work. By acting this cold you will lose the ones who have positive attitude towards you people.

    6. I am not asking you to give up any right of yours, but to live in peace, we all have to compensate. Be it a small part of our so called freedom.

    7. I am not even supporting the behavior of these fucking retard Muslim brothers of Mine, they are not suppose to react, as to create more room for hatred. I was protesting too but on the same platform, by signing petitions on FB. A peaceful way of imparting the idea that "Hey that is not fair"
    1. Enforcing privacy and enforcing freedom of expression are completely separate things. The matter of privacy is something important. Ignorant zealots being offended by drawings is not something to even consider.

    2. OMG my heart goes out to you, no FB for 10 days. Ill send the care package right away! Don't blame Americans. Blame your ignorant tight-ass leaders who banned FB.

    3. Rape is a crime, believe it or not, according to most countries. Rape hurts people, plain and simple. Drawings in no way does physical harm unto a person.

    4. Yea, it will upset people, but you won't see a bunch of Americans running around burning buildings and killing people in the name of some god.

    5. Yea, we don't understand what it is like for mindless pawns to burn, bomb, or even fly planes into buildings...not at all.

    6. Peace will never be obtainable however, a huge step towards peace would mean the crazy fundamentalists of any religion no longer exists. Its the 20th century, such primitive and backwards lifeforms are not necessary.

    7. Good for you for sticking up for something you believe in, in a peaceful manner.
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    You know what, I can't write more for ignorant bitches, the rape scenario was an expression, not an actual rape situation. I am not supporting anyone here, I am just putting my point that it is going to bring more trouble, and to hell with you people, be it another plane crashing your buildings or another war, I will still say, you create problems for yourself. My heart goes to all those innocent people that died in Afghanistan, Iraq, Japan, Vietnam, people killed on the basis of their race and the list goes on.

    On the point of me getting hanged, yes I might, but that would be my mistake to bring myself out in a culture or religion that doesn't accept me, and that is why I am an Agnostic Muslim, I believe in Allah, but can't follow the religion because of the conflict with my sexuality.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by JyStar View Post
    ^Sounds like you're the ignorant piss ass here, not anyone else. Your heart doesn't go out for shit, you're just as sad because you can't see another point of view. And with you're closing statement, you just put yourself in thr same class as the extremists you claim to be against. Good job sportie.

    Rejoice as the blood flows, Azagthoth stated. You just made it true.
    Do as your avatar suggests, and fly away.
    What! Isn't that violating my Freedom of Expression. People like you presented your point of view, I read, and well thought to express my opinion, in your way.
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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss View Post
    You know what, I can't write more for ignorant bitches, the rape scenario was an expression, not an actual rape situation. I am not supporting anyone here, I am just putting my point that it is going to bring more trouble, and to hell with you people, be it another plane crashing your buildings or another war, I will still say, you create problems for yourself. My heart goes to all those innocent people that died in Afghanistan, Iraq, Japan, Vietnam, people killed on the basis of their race and the list goes on.

    On the point of me getting hanged, yes I might, but that would be my mistake to bring myself out in a culture or religion that doesn't accept me, and that is why I am an Agnostic Muslim, I believe in Allah, but can't follow the religion because of the conflict with my sexuality.

    Chao. Happy 9/11.
    I personally think its quite sad that certain religious groups feel an incredible need to defend their religion/religious icons to the DEATH. I'm sorry but before (and after for that matter) Muslims have had as much disrespect toward their religion, many other religions have had similar slandering, but there is a tremendous difference...

    How many Jewish people do you see committing martyrdom in the name of God because their religion has been put down? How many Catholics are blowing up other people for insulting the bible or Christ? It just seems to me that these certain radical religious groups need to sit back, quit acting above everyone else/holier than thou, and take the jabs in stride. Just because you're demeaned does not give you the right to take anothers life or even to hate people, or we would be living in an even MORE hateful world.

    TL;DR - Take a damn chill pill! Every group has an opinion and just because its insulting doesn't give them a right to hate. Every religion gets put down... deal with it you insensitive jackasses, there is nothing that can be done to change it...

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    ^ What he wrote.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    He presented his viewpoint and you presented yours.

    That's how this whole "freedom of expression" thing works.

    See, it never really ends. People can just give their opinions as they want.

    There's no fear of violent retaliation. It doesn't end when one person murders the other for presenting something with which they don't agree.

    It's a wonderful thing. It's understandable that you don't grasp it, though. I hope for your sake that you one day live in and experience a society that embraces this ideal. I say that without contempt and with utmost sincerity.
    Thanks for clarifying, I never said I am in favor of violent protests, I am pissed off because its effecting this part of world, and it will sure reach your side someday, and I will be waiting to see your reaction.

    By the way, can you please direct me to the Draw a Muhammad thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss View Post
    I am pissed off because its effecting this part of world, and it will sure reach your side someday, and I will be waiting to see your reaction.
    Not sure if you know, but there are plenty of Muslim-Americans that are pissed off about this, but the difference being is that they're here in America and they understand the freedom of speech allows people to say ignorant things that may piss them off but we learn to cope and deal with stuff like that. Dealing, for us, doesn't mean strapping a bomb to ourselves and blowing stuff up to "prove our allegiance" or whatever they say to justify it.

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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    I'm sad that the page in question was deleted...I really wanted to read the comments.
    blacksyringe

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    A great piece on the Huffington Post about this fuss. It is written by a Pakistani. I am amazed by his views. He also raised the issue of Facebook bigotry as it regularly bans groups that it deems are prone to incite violence but has done nothing about that page despite several complaints. Maybe they can sue Facebook as it badly needs some smacking.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/saad-k..._b_581325.html

    I think Facebook guys are in pretty bad situation because they must have deleted dozens of other groups too citing this reason and those guys can also come up with this issue. Perhaps the organizers of this contemptible event should have created a website for that instead of using FB. Now I want some major lawsuit against FB. That would be fun...

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    Oh boy, a chance to piss off some more people...ooh I'm so excited.

    In the beginning the O/P says he wants a 'discussion'

    During his monologue there are some other peoples comments interjected

    The O/P states that Jubbers are ignorant bitches and implies other unkind

    diatribic references towards all except the two...yes TWO that agree with him.

    Then he admits to being a religious man that can't practice his religion because

    he is a queer. Further states that the 'people where he resides could

    very well kill him because he likes to suck cock or do other things with "pork".

    This compassionate mans heart bleeds for the people that died in Viet Nam,

    Iraq, et al. Then he references being happy about planes crashing into

    buildings (US?) more wars and other turmoil.

    I have empathized with this Karachi resident for a long time. Sorry, there

    has now main a Rupture...a Rift... and now I consider the BIG BOSS to be a

    .................BIG LOSS...............

    one last abuse from me...the quote made...as ye sow, so shall you reap

    needs to be modified just for you..As you Sow, I pray you Weep.

    This time sign me not just a .................................................. ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty View Post
    Oh boy, a chance to piss off some more people...ooh I'm so excited.

    In the beginning the O/P says he wants a 'discussion'

    During his monologue there are some other peoples comments interjected

    The O/P states that Jubbers are ignorant bitches and implies other unkind

    diatribic references towards all except the two...yes TWO that agree with him.

    Then he admits to being a religious man that can't practice his religion because

    he is a queer. Further states that the 'people where he resides could

    very well kill him because he likes to suck cock or do other things with "pork".

    This compassionate mans heart bleeds for the people that died in Viet Nam,

    Iraq, et al. Then he references being happy about planes crashing into

    buildings (US?) more wars and other turmoil.

    I have empathized with this Karachi resident for a long time. Sorry, there

    has now main a Rupture...a Rift... and now I consider the BIG BOSS to be a

    .................BIG LOSS...............

    one last abuse from me...the quote made...as ye sow, so shall you reap

    needs to be modified just for you..As you Sow, I pray you Weep.

    This time sign me not just a .................................................. ......

    Proud American Citizen but a Proud World Citizen as well..


    LMAO Freedom of Expression! My Ass. I see you getting offended by my comments and situation. Seems I am getting there. Next big thing coming up will
    be

    Draw A Osama Day.

    Can't wait to offend you people the way you offended me with your acts.

    Just because of death threats by bunch of loser extremist, you are reacting by offending us all.
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    Re: Another Storm Coming! Thanks to Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    There was another thread about Everybody Draw Muhammad Day, and there were more people actually arguing that it was so unbelievably wrong.

    They had a little bit more of a point, but in the end it's all nonsense.

    It's amazing how people have blurred the boundaries between measured reactions to offensive material and violent reactions.

    For that "humanist" up-thread, sorry, but you sir are no humanist.

    You reject one of the most prized treasures of the Enlightenment and sympathize with violent extremists who commit the most inhumane acts in the name of a questionable religion.
    I can only laugh at your ignorance.

    Where did I reject this "most prized treasures of the Enlightenment" in my post and where did I 'sympathize' with those extremists?

    First read my post before making your bigoted remarks. I've simply mentioned the hundreds of thousands of deaths that were a direct result of American invasion. How can it be related to extremists? Oh and how come the deaths of millions became a very humane act as it was done by the Americans and allied forces?

    I guess you also didn't read the mention of pre 9/11 massacres where the US is involved directly or indirectly. Oh and they were not Muslims....

    Americans simply have no moral right and no moral standing to say even a single word about the inhumane acts of others. It is just like a serial killer telling a child who has just smacked his younger sister to not do that.

    It is only the Scandinavian countries that have some moral standing left in the world. Americans need to be come out of their self proclaimed moral superiority and human rights delusions because they have no material proof to support that but millions of innocent deaths and loot and plunder in dozens of countries, both Muslim and non-Muslim.

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    I wish I fervently believed a document to the point that I could kill or steal and upon my death enter a world of bliss.

    Seems the writer of such a document would have a nice time on earth, after the believers kill the "enemy" and in turn get killed the only thing left is the wealth of this world.

    Sure it's a little bloody but that can be washed off.

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