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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I think because she's one of the first singers to really break so many boundaries, her fashion, songs, controversy - this is a singer who no one thought would last but is now writing Pop history.

    I'm subjective cause I'm admittedly a massive fan, but to me, It's something new and energetic, and between her clothing, interviews, songs, videos etc - can't really fault her!
    It really depends on the context ... were you nude?

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by Zerlock View Post
    I agree with this part. I just saw the video and it was so over the top
    and cheesy, I got bored watching it. Plus, GaGa has only been famous for
    2yrs and it seems Beyonce is already taking a back seat to her.

    What's up with that?
    I think that is the absolutely opposite.... Beyonce stole the show from Gaga.

    The video was fun and entertaining.... and a wet dream for this little gay

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyroad View Post
    As soon as I knew the video would be 10 minutes long, I knew it wouldn't be as good as Bad Romance, (which, by the way, is just flawless). The main problem with this video is that the first 2:40 minutes are so boring. After all the hype about this video, you are really gonna start singing the song in a public phone? How predictable!

    But the rest after that is really good with all the colors, fashion and insanity. I love every part that involves sandwiches, they make me LOL.

    Watched it the second time skipping all the intro in prison and I like the video much better now!

    Bad Romance still beats it, though.
    Exactly how I felt. Actually, there were some parts in the beginning that were strong, like the intro when she was getting her pussycat doll on. I also liked that part when she came out, winked, did the MJ skip, met up with B. That part when B sang in the radio was ridiculous though, but I get it was meant to look fun. From the diner 'til the end was epic though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElvisVanderbilt View Post
    Also a huge gaga fan here, but extremely disappointed in this video. For someone who prides herself on being innovative, this video seems to hold a lot of advertising interest.

    Plentyoffish.com, Diet Coke, Virgin Mobile being the most annoying.

    C'mon Gaga. Give it a little while longer before you pimp yourself out like this.


    oh. and beyonce blows in this video.
    I'm sure there's some sort of clever social commentary involved, I wouldn't doubt it. But what any of it has to do with the song, I'll never know. She aimed for a Thriller and missed.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by El Divo View Post
    Also, unlike Madonna and Britney, Gaga and Beyonce can actually sing.
    That's clearly subjective, because GaGa sings no better than Madonna, or Britney for that matter, imo.

    and Beyoncé is on an entirely different level than them all vocally.



    Quote Originally Posted by Keaton View Post
    Because she looks like Madonna
    Um. No.

    Madonna isn't all that, but you basically just insulted her.

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    Re: Lady Gaga - Telephone Video Premiere

    Comparing the "Bad Romance" music video to "Telephone" isn't really fair, imho. Both are so totally different, and while I love both, "Telephone" was a continuation of "Paparazzi" after all. Both are essentially telling a story.

    "Bad Romance" was just like fuck you all, here I am, something completely new, different, weird, and visually stunning. And it was awesome. I realize it also told a story, but not a short film

    Everything this woman does is just phenomenal.
    I'm beautiful in my way - cause god makes no mistakes - I'm on the right track - baby I was born this way!

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    I wish Gaga spent more time on the Fame monster though. Loved the whole concept.

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    And, totally random, when I was watching the video, I thought that the girl standing directly next to her in jail before she answers the phone was her, just with brown hair.

    Turns out it's her sister
    I'm beautiful in my way - cause god makes no mistakes - I'm on the right track - baby I was born this way!

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I wish we didn't like our vapid amusements quite so much. Is it a fair judgment to say that we're overly enchanted with the banality of surfaces?

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Because she utilizes her ability to shock, outrage, and spark comment to constantly remain the center of attention. Certainly sounds like several gay men *I* know...

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    because she IS God. Duh.

    Underneath everything I guess I always dreamed I would be the one to take you away from all this wasted pain...

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by elvin1 View Post
    Because she is a staunch and unwavering LGBT supporter.
    Not many artists (if any) at the top of their game would come out at that level of fame for LGBT's.

    She has my respect.

    She also has a great voice and her songs are killer.

    Exactly.

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    Re: Lady Gaga: Telephone

    I really liked how she gave a song, that really is basic and nothing too deep a really dense video.


    As always, another video going down in history. Especially if people keep talking about it like they are here.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine View Post
    Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    because she IS God. Duh.

    She is GOD!

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by huntneo View Post
    That's clearly subjective, because GaGa sings no better than Madonna, or Britney for that matter, imo.
    I do have to disagree with you there, love. Britney's vocals have never been particularly strong when she is singing live, and Madonna has long been loved despite her thin singing. When Gaga sings live her vocals are often much stronger than anything those two can muster. I wouldn't compare her to Beyonce, because they are very different types, but I do feel sometimes when I'm listening to Beyonce that she is running after her notes as they threaten to get away from her. I don't get that from Gaga.

    Why do I like her? Because her look is provocative, but it's playful. C'mon, cigarette sunglasses in prison? That to me was a fucking scream. She has such a sense of humor about her and does not take herself seriously, even when she feigns seriousness.

    But then you listen to her music--it's pop, and it's mainstream, but it has that edge. It defies you to not move to it, and as someone else put it so beautifully, it takes what many of us feel and expresses it in a way that is exciting and graphic.

    To me, when I think of her as a musical painter, she stands out because she is the painter, the brush, the paint and the canvas. She synthesizes it all together, daring the audience to see themselves in her picture, even in the most outrageous strokes, colors and patterns.

    Too many mainstream artists sing from their egotistical perspective and try to pull you in; too many alternative artists sing with raw emotion but try to shove you out. Gaga sweeps you up in her spectacle and laughs loudly in your ear, while dancing you off with a pinprick to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killjoke View Post
    I do have to disagree with you there, love. Britney's vocals have never been particularly strong when she is singing live, and Madonna has long been loved despite her thin singing. When Gaga sings live her vocals are often much stronger than anything those two can muster. I wouldn't compare her to Beyonce, because they are very different types, but I do feel sometimes when I'm listening to Beyonce that she is running after her notes as they threaten to get away from her. I don't get that from Gaga.

    Why do I like her? Because her look is provocative, but it's playful. C'mon, cigarette sunglasses in prison? That to me was a fucking scream. She has such a sense of humor about her and does not take herself seriously, even when she feigns seriousness.

    But then you listen to her music--it's pop, and it's mainstream, but it has that edge. It defies you to not move to it, and as someone else put it so beautifully, it takes what many of us feel and expresses it in a way that is exciting and graphic.

    To me, when I think of her as a musical painter, she stands out because she is the painter, the brush, the paint and the canvas. She synthesizes it all together, daring the audience to see themselves in her picture, even in the most outrageous strokes, colors and patterns.

    Too many mainstream artists sing from their egotistical perspective and try to pull you in; too many alternative artists sing with raw emotion but try to shove you out. Gaga sweeps you up in her spectacle and laughs loudly in your ear, while dancing you off with a pinprick to your heart.

    That was all very lovely, and it really makes me begin to understand your adoration with Gaga...but the same thing she does for you, other artists have done for me. She's not that special, or revolutionary for that matter. There were people doing what she's doing now, before you and I were ever thought of.

    That being said...I wouldn't go as far as to call her an artist. She's a product. Plain and simple. I give her that much...she has superior marketing skills.

    Say what you will about Beyoncé, but she still sings circles around Gaga. And as for Madonna, I would never claim that she is the best singer-- but she does sing. Gaga sing-talks her way through a majority of her songs. Madonna has a number of classics that showcases what she's capable of. Her work speaks for itself.

    When Gaga releases an immaculate work like Ray of Light, I may look at her with some reverence. Until then, she's just another pop singer who tries entirely too hard to be special and different.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    In a way, I think the pairing of Gaga and Beyonce is a good move, because one wants to be an icon and needs to prove she has more than just catchy lyrics and clothes tricks, and one wants to be a diva and needs to prove she has more than just beauty and vocal tricks.

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    While I've always liked Madonna, I don't worship her as many do, because honestly I've always felt like she was a product too. She's the grand manipulator, churning out endless reinventions in a very calculated way. Ray of Light was honestly the first album where I felt like she was really exploring something because she was interested in it, rather than just repackaging herself.

    I've enjoyed most of Beyonce's music over the years (except I loathe Single Ladies and If I Were a Boy), but I liked her far more in Destiny's Child. I think she's much better as a part of something bigger than just herself.

    With that said, I have always loved pop music, and I enjoy all of these ladies. There's room for all of them on the charts, and I certainly think women rule the pop music landscape.

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    Re: Lady Gaga: Telephone

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlord View Post
    I think a cliche yet simple video of Gaga and Beyonce in the club having a dance off and shit would have done the song justice.
    yeah, but thats not gaga...

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Lady GaGa > Madonna.


    Srsly.

    Underneath everything I guess I always dreamed I would be the one to take you away from all this wasted pain...

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    When I mean 'simple' I'm speaking along the lines of Poker Face and Just Dance simple.

    A clip like that I would have loved for Telephone. If anything Monster should have gotten the OTT treatment, that track is fieeeeerce!

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Madonna and Lady Gaga aren't good singers (although in my opinion Gaga is slightly better vocally). Madonna has had staying power because she's extremely intelligent. She knows how to market herself properly, she knows how to use people, she's tapped into the social fabric of people that she's capable of staying relevant and shocking long after the latest shock has died, and long after popular music has stylistically changed.

    I don't think Gaga has that kind of staying power. She's definitely an interesting woman and I enjoy her second album very much so, but by no means can she do what Madonna has done. The world is very different now, marketing is completely different and everything is rapidly accessible...if she's going to be a Madonna she has to do it differently and adapt to new media.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Madonna was doing all this in the 80s when it was unheard of. I think the comparison is unfair. Madonna broke ground for sexual expression and despite a subpar singing voice, she pushed all boundaries

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by lucky7 View Post
    Madonna was doing all this in the 80s when it was unheard of. I think the comparison is unfair. Madonna broke ground for sexual expression and despite a subpar singing voice, she pushed all boundaries
    I think the comparison is fair in that they're both savvy business women who know how to package themselves. Gaga will have to work hard to overcome those comparisons, because Madonna truly is the master. Like you said, she got there first, and she pushed major boundaries in the idea of women embracing their sexuality.

    Gaga's message so far about celebrity and fame would have been far more revolutionary if she had burst onto the scene before Paris went to jail, Britney and Lindsay went to rehab, and Ms. Ritchie popped out a kid. Time will tell if she has what it takes to become this generation's Madonna, actually saying something relevant before everyone else had already started saying it.

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    I thought the same thing, too. I was like "So is Gaga gonna play multiple roles?" What if her sister becomes another Gaga... one is enough for the world.

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    Re: Lady Gaga: Telephone

    I'm starting to think it is about commercialism, just watched it again, when gaga leaves prison she's in the prison "check-out"

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by huntneo View Post
    When Gaga releases an immaculate work like Ray of Light, I may look at her with some reverence. Until then, she's just another pop singer who tries entirely too hard to be special and different.
    Ray of Light was Madonna's eighth studio album, 15 years into her career. Hardly a fair comparison. Fame Monster measures up pretty well to Madonna/Like A Virgin. Both artists captured the commercial dance music of the time wrapped it up in a bit of glamour and controversy (learnt from the NY gay/drag scene) and took it worldwide.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Gaga is not that great of a singer. Have you heard the acoustic Paparazzi version? She sounds horrible when hitting that high F, probably the reason why she modified it to a lower note in a later video recording.

    Gaga is just a shock gimmick who makes the average mainstream listener feel better about themselves for needing society to tell him what and what isn't good music. Right, sure, she's talented, got in Juliard for undergrad (which actually isn't THAT hard) but she dumbs down that talent by composing very very simple but catchy pop ditties.

    People who worship her as such a creative, original, groundbreaking goddess are simply deluding themselves and are NOT taking the time do their OWN research since the amount of artists who exceed her in every aspect, is too numerous to count

    Paparazzi vid was aight, Bad Romance vid was creative, but Telephone was just straight up shock value. Let's go tape my nipples with black tape and kill everyone hur hur hur. Doesn't matter that the video literally has nothing to with the song. Doesn't matter that the acting and dialogue was horrific, nor does it matter that everyone was so airbrushed, they looked fake. It's MUST be the best video ever, because it's Lady Gaga.

    It really doesn't matter WHAT she comes out with, people, (especially gay guys) are always going to worship her brainlessly no matter how good or how bad the material she comes out with is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadoyayunta View Post
    Ray of Light was Madonna's eighth studio album, 15 years into her career. Hardly a fair comparison. Fame Monster measures up pretty well to Madonna/Like A Virgin. Both artists captured the commercial dance music of the time wrapped it up in a bit of glamour and controversy (learnt from the NY gay/drag scene) and took it worldwide.
    Thanks for the history lesson.

    but like I said:

    Quote Originally Posted by huntneo View Post
    When Gaga releases an immaculate work like Ray of Light, I may look at her with some reverence.
    which means she still has time to impress me. Until then...she's just...you know the drill.

    as for Fame Monster measuring up to Madonna's first two efforts, I respect your opinion...but I absolutely have to disagree. Madonna's first two albums fused pop and elements and R&B...among other genres to make a new sound. Gaga burst on the scene with empty pop music from day one. It's okay to like it...just call it what it is though. It's funny how people keep trying to dress up her work as 'art'.

    I'd even like to see her release something as great as True Blue.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine View Post
    Lady GaGa > Madonna.


    Srsly.
    Oh really?

    I like your way of making a point.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I don't have the balls to compare her to Madonna, do I have an obsession with Madonna? Nah she is fine though


    But Gaga has released two albums and been in the commercial game for just a minute and already she is being considered a legend/being compared to one.


    I just listen to the music and move on, this is something serious.

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    So i finally got around to watching the video this morning.

    The first thing i'll say is, all those people whining about it being a 9 minute mini movie or there being breaks between the song to go into the "story" of the vid... do you even REMEMBER Micheal Jackson's Thriller or You Rock My World? For pop fans, you sure are forgetful. Which sounds about right, quite frankly.

    As for the vid not being a simple "i'm in the club practicing mah dance movez" vid? That's one point TOWARDS Lady Gaga in my opinion for actually thinking outside your boring little boxes. She actually did something fun. Remember when videos were actually full of fun?

    Now, to the ACTUAL video. I thought her playing on the product heavy generation was funny... but i thought the vid was just filled to the brim with shock for shocks' sake(though as Killjoke stated, the cigarette glasses were crazy in a good way - the duct tape titties, the fight, the beefed up guards, lesbian jail... not so much). And i hope Beysus' bad acting was intentional(yes, i know the irony in that statement). I don't HATE the video; in fact, it's really damn fun - and to her credit, she made a generic dance song a whole lot better(how many pop artists have done a song about a fucking Telephone? I can think of at least four off the top of my head) with something that catches the eye. But as for it being worthy of all the messiah attention? Nope.

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    Re: Lady Gaga - Telephone Video Premiere

    I liked her new video. Had some Tarantino esque film styles in there.

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    Gaga is just a shock gimmick who makes the average mainstream listener feel better about themselves for needing society to tell him what and what isn't good music. Right, sure, she's talented, got in Juliard for undergrad (which actually isn't THAT hard) but she dumbs down that talent by composing very very simple but catchy pop ditties.
    Not that it entirely matters or anything, I hardly consider myself an 'average mainstream listener'. Just because people like her, doesn't mean all those people are people that only listen to the radio and that's it.

    It's a shame people can't just like stuff. It's either that there needs to be a group that really needs to hate <insert random artist> and people who defend and like no matter what said artist does.

    I don't take music videos that seriously and I don't watch them on a regular basis, but I watched it and enjoyed it for what it was. The whole 'shock value' thing with her doesn't bother me because I think she has the voice/music to back it up. So I tend to think she doesn't really need to do it, but it adds to the fun and she stands out more for it. And that is why she does it, it makes people pay attention.

    It all comes down to opinion, but most people can't stand if someone doesn't like what they like or if someone likes something they don't like. Vicious circles and all that.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    She is simply amazing. Look at the debuts of Rihanna and Kesha. I enjoy the music of both Rihanna and Kesha, but they are not even trying. Gaga is. Her hard work is paying off. Everyone is the music industry is taking note of her (positive and negative). She is getting a lot of praise too. There is a reason why people hype her up and that is because she's worked for it.

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    Beats the hell out of me. I admit that I'm guilty of liking "Poker Face" and "Lovegame" (and trust that I am ashamed of that)...but overall, I think she's wack. She's a caricature and because she's such a silly cartoon, she gets attention for being quirky. I predict, though, that once the novelty of her flaky weirdness wares off, she'll be disavowed by the mainstream and pop culture will be as embarrassed for once making her popular as it is Vanilla Ice, Ace of Base and "The Macarena."

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Am I the only one who thought Beyonce's acting was supposed to be that mix of over the top and well intentional like this?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9iYkQzoUwU[/ame]


    I don't call this bad acting, I call this entertainment


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    I also wanna say that I don't get the comparisons to Madonna.
    If anything, Gaga is more like Cyndi Lauper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    Would someone please explain to me how she's revolutionary at all? Seems more like another standard female pop diva to me.

    "Here's Britney, with an uglier face and whackier outfits."

    Great. I'm so inspired.
    ......and a discostick.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Simple answer to your question: because she is the most relevant pop artist right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by lucky7 View Post
    Her music is just pop.. mainstream pop. If you want to listen to something REALLY different, check out the alternative scene and those who play with the normal conventions of what music should be.
    Give me a break man. This is such a typical, sad comment so many people pass just because they don't like an artist. "like omg you should listen to (insert name/genre here) if you want to listen to real music!"

    if their music is that different, original, and awesome, i'm sure some record label would pick them up for play on mainstream radio stations. Until then, please get over it and get over yourself.

    Just because you think something else is really different doesn't make it "really different" for everyone else.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I just found this on YouTube and thought it would be appropriate to post here...

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rESNrKLSIdM[/ame]

    It's true what he says about her relationship with her fans. She's truly a nice person. Check out some videos from YouTube of her meeting with her fans...

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfJySW5vrN4[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPcuATnnOnk[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqFVAKB0Xxg[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhgbnCTuhTQ[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBU2ligdaKg[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67ZGWbP8onk[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWDwHlVQeag[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJzmNbk-9Aw[/ame]

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryMorgan View Post
    I just found this on YouTube and thought it would be appropriate to post here...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rESNrKLSIdM
    Dear God.
    Reminds me of back when I worked at FYE in late 1997, and some guy very similiar to him came to my checkout counter with a Spice Girls CD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkingonsnow View Post
    Give me a break man. This is such a typical, sad comment so many people pass just because they don't like an artist. "like omg you should listen to (insert name/genre here) if you want to listen to real music!"

    if their music is that different, original, and awesome, i'm sure some record label would pick them up for play on mainstream radio stations. Until then, please get over it and get over yourself.
    You clearly don't know how radio works these days to make that second statement. Sorry, but i hope you're smart enough to know that NO major radio station is going to add something truly experimental and original if there is a worry that is might alienate it's core audience. This is why when you listen to the radio(and we're just talking major here), you hear the same 15~40 songs over and over - and then MAYBE a few requests. I mean, there's a more qualified man on here that can tell you better than i can, but in general, you're not gonna hear something really deep and pushing the envelope on the same station that's playing Lady Gaga, Nicki Minaj and Britney Spears.

    So i think your logic needs to "get over itself".

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I love all her current stuff but I think this might be my fav Gaga song. It's one of the best songs I've ever heard.



    And btw, I have equal love for Gaga and Madonna.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Well, I wouldn't say she is treated like a "God" but she is all over the place because of how striking she is. As others have said, she breaks the boundaries and doesn't care. She is somebody true to herself and will create the art that she wants no matter what. Her music is great fun to listen to and very catchy, and she is a great performer. She also seems to have real talent, unlike many other so called "artists" out there.

    Plus, she has another side to her. Did you see her interview with Barbara Walters? She has this image based on shock value, but she isn't a complete freak in person either. She is well spoken and seems very down to earth.

    All in all, she is a great addition to the music industry. She spices things up.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    This kid did his high school valedictorian speech about GaGa...

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDggB-MhYC4[/ame]

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I think she's great because she has a decent voice and an okay body so if she wanted to, she might be moderately successful as another sex sells pop star.

    But she doesn't settle for that. I'd suggest doing a search on youtube for her VMA Paparazzi performance. It was the song paparazzi that made me start to fall for the lady.

    I'll give you a rundown of my interpretation of the VMA performance (when was the last time you could interpret a performance by a pop musician?)



    At the start of the song she's lying down, resting or such like. The dancers, that I see as representing the Paparazzi, come over and lift her to her feet. I think this represents the sudden rise to fame that people, and it sort of looks like she was picked up against her will, so I think it also sort of says that the Paparazzi can hound you wether you like it or not.

    The next note worthy thing in my opinion is when her headpiece and cloak are taken from her. I'm pretty sure this is about the invasion of privacy and decency that the paparazzi can have an people. I also think she looked a lot more "innocent: with the extra clothing so it might be about the loss of innocence in the public eye as well.

    Next at the chorus she starts walking with a crutch. I think this is symbolizes the gradual wearing down on her that the Paparazzi are having.

    A girl with a mask in a wheel chair also briefly appears on the center stage. I think she's a sort of one hit wonder, enjoying her brief time in the spotlight and the wheelchair shows how much control the Paparazzi have over her, i.e control over her movements.
    She could also be seen as a "freak" that the Paparazzi have found and have cast the spotlight on. Like one of those tabloid stories "Crazy Mum Has 15th Child"etc.
    Or she could be a past "victim" of the Paparazzi that has briefly returned to the spotlight.
    I'm not quite sure about the wheel chair girl yet : /

    Anyways moving on, next theres a sort of dance off between her and this one guy. I think that might be her fighting back against the Paparazzi, but unsuccessfully maybe as she sort of limps away afterwards. I think that might represent the damage it had to her public image or its personal effects on her.

    She "retreats" to her piano. I think this is when the incident that causes her death happens. I think it represents her last performance or her swan song. Not quite sure yet.

    Now comes the biggie. She walks away from the piano and starts bleeding from her chest. I think this is either her being killed by her fame via fan like John or more like Princess Diana. Either way, at this time she looks vulnerable, needing help etc. But this is the almost only time throughout the video that shes on her own. I think that symbolizes the cynical nature of the media and how the paparazzi love to watch someone crumble.

    However soon after the Paparazzi spring back to life in a more frenzied state than ever. I think this is because of all the hype and publicity that downfalls usually garner. When she's hung, the Paparazzi gather around her and it looks like there in a ritual (this happens regularly) or that their celebrating their work (it's accepted by the public and people don't really mind their ruthlessness).

    On a last note I think the costumes that the dancers are wearing are sort of relevant. They look sort of "gangster"ish, i.e bandannas, chains etc. But there all wearing all white. So I think thats sort of a comment about their "thug" like nature thats sort of disguised. Also the only colour in any of the costumes is the blood.

    But anyways thats my interpretation, and it's because of things like this and her Grammies performance that I love her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungrybrownbear View Post
    Gaga is just a shock gimmick who makes the average mainstream listener feel better about themselves for needing society to tell him what and what isn't good music. Right, sure, she's talented, got in Juliard for undergrad (which actually isn't THAT hard) but she dumbs down that talent by composing very very simple but catchy pop ditties.
    they had a 7.6% acceptance rate for 2008? how much more selective do you have to be...lol

    and i agree that lady gaga isnt that great vocally. but def. better than most. def. better than britney. theres really no comparison even.
    but if she keeps smoking then she will probably be even worse than britney...or whatever's shes been doing to her voice.

    and i like her stuff. its catchy but tahts about it. i dont obsess over her. she was okay at first...but shes gotten a little too weird. i remember when she first started out..it was about the whole club scene/glamour trash thing..but wtf is it now? lol avant garde? not really...

    and i really dont like the "oh i really love my fans" stuff its kind of annoying. and shes pretty lifeless nowadays.
    cant say i love her as much as i did a year ago

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I find music critics hilarious. A vast majority of the population doesn't care whether an F note sounded flat or whatever. Most people won't even notice. If it's a catchy song, people will listen to it. The mainstream listeners are the ones that actually matter.

    I'm fairly neutral about Lady Gaga (and Beyonce, Britney, and Madonna as well).

    If experimental or 'creative' music were actually good (as defined by the majority), then it would be popular. End of story. A coworker of mine is a big fan of that type of music. We were listening to it once on a trip to a field job. I told him it sounded like radio dishes pointed at space (it was basically white noise with a bunch of instrument sounds thrown in). He thought it was the greatest thing in the world, while I couldn't wait until it was over (it was 17 minutes long or something).

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    It's funny . . . I never felt quite this passionate about Madonna, though I know a lot of gay boys of my generation (those that were in junior/high school when Madonna got really big, yeah I'm old, so what) who did absolutely worship her. I never got it, though I thought some of her songs were decent.

    But I do get the Lady Gaga thing. I absolutely love her. I think it's the absurdness and sheer creativity and self-deprecating sense of humor. Whereas Madonna seemed to take her image very, very seriously, Lady Gaga is as often going for a laugh as she is a shock. Often both at once. IMO, that's the sort of "cheekiness" that has been missing from the pop music world for a very long time.

    Plus, her songs are really, really good pop songs. Sometimes they have to grow on you, but they are really good. I say this as someone who majored in music and usually only listens to classical music, jazz, and the Beatles. Seriously, she could (and probably will) write the textbook on writing well-crafted pop.

    Oh, also, she does things in her videos that I can't imagine anyone else getting away with. The video for Bad Romance, for example, is clearly about sex trafficking -- a woman is drugged and kidnapped into the organized crime ring, sold for a million, then somehow manages burn her "owner" into a charred skeleton. Pretty heady stuff for pop. There's the fashion and dancing and singing, yes, but there's also all this other stuff going on beneath the surface that taps into the world in a very real way.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by MindBlast View Post
    I find music critics hilarious. A vast majority of the population doesn't care whether an F note sounded flat or whatever. Most people won't even notice. If it's a catchy song, people will listen to it. The mainstream listeners are the ones that actually matter.

    I'm fairly neutral about Lady Gaga (and Beyonce, Britney, and Madonna as well).

    If experimental or 'creative' music were actually good (as defined by the majority), then it would be popular. End of story. A coworker of mine is a big fan of that type of music. We were listening to it once on a trip to a field job. I told him it sounded like radio dishes pointed at space (it was basically white noise with a bunch of instrument sounds thrown in). He thought it was the greatest thing in the world, while I couldn't wait until it was over (it was 17 minutes long or something).
    LOL. It wasn't flat, she just can't hit anything higher than that without pitch correction.

    I wasn't referring to that sort of extreme, there are so many listenable artists that are just simply better, you don't know about them, because they don't sell themselves out on the mainstream, although they very easily could if they wanted to.

    Quote Originally Posted by penayforay View Post
    they had a 7.6% acceptance rate for 2008? how much more selective do you have to be...lol
    Yeah Juliard for undergrad, anyone who has their shit together can get in.

    Now if you get in the grad school program, you have my respect.

    I'm not saying she isn't talented, I'm just saying she's nothing special.

    Oh well, people will always worship the ground she shits on.

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