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    Re: Lady Gaga: Telephone

    I'm starting to think it is about commercialism, just watched it again, when gaga leaves prison she's in the prison "check-out"

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by huntneo View Post
    When Gaga releases an immaculate work like Ray of Light, I may look at her with some reverence. Until then, she's just another pop singer who tries entirely too hard to be special and different.
    Ray of Light was Madonna's eighth studio album, 15 years into her career. Hardly a fair comparison. Fame Monster measures up pretty well to Madonna/Like A Virgin. Both artists captured the commercial dance music of the time wrapped it up in a bit of glamour and controversy (learnt from the NY gay/drag scene) and took it worldwide.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Gaga is not that great of a singer. Have you heard the acoustic Paparazzi version? She sounds horrible when hitting that high F, probably the reason why she modified it to a lower note in a later video recording.

    Gaga is just a shock gimmick who makes the average mainstream listener feel better about themselves for needing society to tell him what and what isn't good music. Right, sure, she's talented, got in Juliard for undergrad (which actually isn't THAT hard) but she dumbs down that talent by composing very very simple but catchy pop ditties.

    People who worship her as such a creative, original, groundbreaking goddess are simply deluding themselves and are NOT taking the time do their OWN research since the amount of artists who exceed her in every aspect, is too numerous to count

    Paparazzi vid was aight, Bad Romance vid was creative, but Telephone was just straight up shock value. Let's go tape my nipples with black tape and kill everyone hur hur hur. Doesn't matter that the video literally has nothing to with the song. Doesn't matter that the acting and dialogue was horrific, nor does it matter that everyone was so airbrushed, they looked fake. It's MUST be the best video ever, because it's Lady Gaga.

    It really doesn't matter WHAT she comes out with, people, (especially gay guys) are always going to worship her brainlessly no matter how good or how bad the material she comes out with is.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I don't have the balls to compare her to Madonna, do I have an obsession with Madonna? Nah she is fine though


    But Gaga has released two albums and been in the commercial game for just a minute and already she is being considered a legend/being compared to one.


    I just listen to the music and move on, this is something serious.

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    Re: Lady Gaga - Telephone Video Premiere

    I liked her new video. Had some Tarantino esque film styles in there.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    She is simply amazing. Look at the debuts of Rihanna and Kesha. I enjoy the music of both Rihanna and Kesha, but they are not even trying. Gaga is. Her hard work is paying off. Everyone is the music industry is taking note of her (positive and negative). She is getting a lot of praise too. There is a reason why people hype her up and that is because she's worked for it.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Beats the hell out of me. I admit that I'm guilty of liking "Poker Face" and "Lovegame" (and trust that I am ashamed of that)...but overall, I think she's wack. She's a caricature and because she's such a silly cartoon, she gets attention for being quirky. I predict, though, that once the novelty of her flaky weirdness wares off, she'll be disavowed by the mainstream and pop culture will be as embarrassed for once making her popular as it is Vanilla Ice, Ace of Base and "The Macarena."

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Am I the only one who thought Beyonce's acting was supposed to be that mix of over the top and well intentional like this?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9iYkQzoUwU[/ame]


    I don't call this bad acting, I call this entertainment


    Beyonce was "Entertaining"

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I also wanna say that I don't get the comparisons to Madonna.
    If anything, Gaga is more like Cyndi Lauper.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    Would someone please explain to me how she's revolutionary at all? Seems more like another standard female pop diva to me.

    "Here's Britney, with an uglier face and whackier outfits."

    Great. I'm so inspired.
    ......and a discostick.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Simple answer to your question: because she is the most relevant pop artist right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by lucky7 View Post
    Her music is just pop.. mainstream pop. If you want to listen to something REALLY different, check out the alternative scene and those who play with the normal conventions of what music should be.
    Give me a break man. This is such a typical, sad comment so many people pass just because they don't like an artist. "like omg you should listen to (insert name/genre here) if you want to listen to real music!"

    if their music is that different, original, and awesome, i'm sure some record label would pick them up for play on mainstream radio stations. Until then, please get over it and get over yourself.

    Just because you think something else is really different doesn't make it "really different" for everyone else.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryMorgan View Post
    I just found this on YouTube and thought it would be appropriate to post here...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rESNrKLSIdM
    Dear God.
    Reminds me of back when I worked at FYE in late 1997, and some guy very similiar to him came to my checkout counter with a Spice Girls CD.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Well, I wouldn't say she is treated like a "God" but she is all over the place because of how striking she is. As others have said, she breaks the boundaries and doesn't care. She is somebody true to herself and will create the art that she wants no matter what. Her music is great fun to listen to and very catchy, and she is a great performer. She also seems to have real talent, unlike many other so called "artists" out there.

    Plus, she has another side to her. Did you see her interview with Barbara Walters? She has this image based on shock value, but she isn't a complete freak in person either. She is well spoken and seems very down to earth.

    All in all, she is a great addition to the music industry. She spices things up.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I think she's great because she has a decent voice and an okay body so if she wanted to, she might be moderately successful as another sex sells pop star.

    But she doesn't settle for that. I'd suggest doing a search on youtube for her VMA Paparazzi performance. It was the song paparazzi that made me start to fall for the lady.

    I'll give you a rundown of my interpretation of the VMA performance (when was the last time you could interpret a performance by a pop musician?)



    At the start of the song she's lying down, resting or such like. The dancers, that I see as representing the Paparazzi, come over and lift her to her feet. I think this represents the sudden rise to fame that people, and it sort of looks like she was picked up against her will, so I think it also sort of says that the Paparazzi can hound you wether you like it or not.

    The next note worthy thing in my opinion is when her headpiece and cloak are taken from her. I'm pretty sure this is about the invasion of privacy and decency that the paparazzi can have an people. I also think she looked a lot more "innocent: with the extra clothing so it might be about the loss of innocence in the public eye as well.

    Next at the chorus she starts walking with a crutch. I think this is symbolizes the gradual wearing down on her that the Paparazzi are having.

    A girl with a mask in a wheel chair also briefly appears on the center stage. I think she's a sort of one hit wonder, enjoying her brief time in the spotlight and the wheelchair shows how much control the Paparazzi have over her, i.e control over her movements.
    She could also be seen as a "freak" that the Paparazzi have found and have cast the spotlight on. Like one of those tabloid stories "Crazy Mum Has 15th Child"etc.
    Or she could be a past "victim" of the Paparazzi that has briefly returned to the spotlight.
    I'm not quite sure about the wheel chair girl yet : /

    Anyways moving on, next theres a sort of dance off between her and this one guy. I think that might be her fighting back against the Paparazzi, but unsuccessfully maybe as she sort of limps away afterwards. I think that might represent the damage it had to her public image or its personal effects on her.

    She "retreats" to her piano. I think this is when the incident that causes her death happens. I think it represents her last performance or her swan song. Not quite sure yet.

    Now comes the biggie. She walks away from the piano and starts bleeding from her chest. I think this is either her being killed by her fame via fan like John or more like Princess Diana. Either way, at this time she looks vulnerable, needing help etc. But this is the almost only time throughout the video that shes on her own. I think that symbolizes the cynical nature of the media and how the paparazzi love to watch someone crumble.

    However soon after the Paparazzi spring back to life in a more frenzied state than ever. I think this is because of all the hype and publicity that downfalls usually garner. When she's hung, the Paparazzi gather around her and it looks like there in a ritual (this happens regularly) or that their celebrating their work (it's accepted by the public and people don't really mind their ruthlessness).

    On a last note I think the costumes that the dancers are wearing are sort of relevant. They look sort of "gangster"ish, i.e bandannas, chains etc. But there all wearing all white. So I think thats sort of a comment about their "thug" like nature thats sort of disguised. Also the only colour in any of the costumes is the blood.

    But anyways thats my interpretation, and it's because of things like this and her Grammies performance that I love her.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I find music critics hilarious. A vast majority of the population doesn't care whether an F note sounded flat or whatever. Most people won't even notice. If it's a catchy song, people will listen to it. The mainstream listeners are the ones that actually matter.

    I'm fairly neutral about Lady Gaga (and Beyonce, Britney, and Madonna as well).

    If experimental or 'creative' music were actually good (as defined by the majority), then it would be popular. End of story. A coworker of mine is a big fan of that type of music. We were listening to it once on a trip to a field job. I told him it sounded like radio dishes pointed at space (it was basically white noise with a bunch of instrument sounds thrown in). He thought it was the greatest thing in the world, while I couldn't wait until it was over (it was 17 minutes long or something).

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    It's funny . . . I never felt quite this passionate about Madonna, though I know a lot of gay boys of my generation (those that were in junior/high school when Madonna got really big, yeah I'm old, so what) who did absolutely worship her. I never got it, though I thought some of her songs were decent.

    But I do get the Lady Gaga thing. I absolutely love her. I think it's the absurdness and sheer creativity and self-deprecating sense of humor. Whereas Madonna seemed to take her image very, very seriously, Lady Gaga is as often going for a laugh as she is a shock. Often both at once. IMO, that's the sort of "cheekiness" that has been missing from the pop music world for a very long time.

    Plus, her songs are really, really good pop songs. Sometimes they have to grow on you, but they are really good. I say this as someone who majored in music and usually only listens to classical music, jazz, and the Beatles. Seriously, she could (and probably will) write the textbook on writing well-crafted pop.

    Oh, also, she does things in her videos that I can't imagine anyone else getting away with. The video for Bad Romance, for example, is clearly about sex trafficking -- a woman is drugged and kidnapped into the organized crime ring, sold for a million, then somehow manages burn her "owner" into a charred skeleton. Pretty heady stuff for pop. There's the fashion and dancing and singing, yes, but there's also all this other stuff going on beneath the surface that taps into the world in a very real way.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by MindBlast View Post
    I find music critics hilarious. A vast majority of the population doesn't care whether an F note sounded flat or whatever. Most people won't even notice. If it's a catchy song, people will listen to it. The mainstream listeners are the ones that actually matter.

    I'm fairly neutral about Lady Gaga (and Beyonce, Britney, and Madonna as well).

    If experimental or 'creative' music were actually good (as defined by the majority), then it would be popular. End of story. A coworker of mine is a big fan of that type of music. We were listening to it once on a trip to a field job. I told him it sounded like radio dishes pointed at space (it was basically white noise with a bunch of instrument sounds thrown in). He thought it was the greatest thing in the world, while I couldn't wait until it was over (it was 17 minutes long or something).
    LOL. It wasn't flat, she just can't hit anything higher than that without pitch correction.

    I wasn't referring to that sort of extreme, there are so many listenable artists that are just simply better, you don't know about them, because they don't sell themselves out on the mainstream, although they very easily could if they wanted to.

    Quote Originally Posted by penayforay View Post
    they had a 7.6% acceptance rate for 2008? how much more selective do you have to be...lol
    Yeah Juliard for undergrad, anyone who has their shit together can get in.

    Now if you get in the grad school program, you have my respect.

    I'm not saying she isn't talented, I'm just saying she's nothing special.

    Oh well, people will always worship the ground she shits on.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Oh no no no, I'm not knocking it. It's still one of the best music school in the U.S.

    It's just, people who don't know much about it, treat as some sort of impossible legendary goal.

    SO MANY times, have I heard, LADY GAGA IS THE BEST AND AMAZINGG. DID YOU KNOW SHE GOT INTO JUILLIARD.

    It's just not as hard and amazing as everyone thinks it is. Like, no one's ever heard of Curtis, or like Berklee, but they've heard of Juilliard, and they go ooh la la when they hear it.

    Like I said, it's the grad school program that is insanely impressive. Not undergrad nor the pre-college division.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    My question is, why isn't she worshiped more like God?

    TONS! of my co-workers think i'm nuts for loving her so much. They're just niave and closed minded. People don't realize how much meaning Gaga brings into one's life. Especially the gays. I'm partially in the closet, and when I was at her Monster Ball tour, I felt amazing! I felt like I belong, and I felt important for once! She even scrolled down her window to greet me while I was shouting at her car on the road. Gaga has so much power, and she takes advantage of it for the better, unlike many celebrities. She fights for rights, and equality. She demonstrates this through her campaigns, charities, through music and it's music video themselves. She advocates being different is okay, which for most of us gays.. that's all we feel!

    Lady Gaga is one entire package, it's not just her music. It's her symbolic pieces of art that goes along with it!

    So why on EARTH! isn't she worshiped like God?
    I guess, her only 'true religious' fans are the ones that can relate deeply.
    you don't always get someone innovative and inspiring as her.

    ps. I love her MORE as a person herself than her music.

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    Re: Lady Gaga - Telephone Video Premiere

    i was very underwhelmed by this video. most likely due to all of the hype. this was not epic in any sense of the word. another typical "out there" gaga/lachapelle/tarantino-esque inspired video. this isn't a bad video at all, even though i do prefer bad romance and paparazzi. i read the comment about gaga mentioning she wanted the video to be perfect and like an epic pop culture event. i dont think that she really said that, i dont see her thinking of herself as this big pop star making revolutionary videos. even if she did, i see her as more down to earth than that.

    i think the worst part about it was the storyline. i dont think that she ever planned to continue the paparazzi video, but when brainstorming for this video someone was like "here's an idea, continue off from paparazzi and try to tie in as many elements from that video so it can be somewhat cohesive". like the minnie mouse glasses that beyonce wears, the poison, and the prison scene.

    i do think that a less over the top & literal video would have been better for this song. this is a straight up dance song. plus it is kinda weird having beyonce doing the crazy gaga things. you can kinda tell she was a lil uncomfortable. i thought that she was out of her element in video phone, well compared to that she looks down right lost here. the video was hilarious if not anything else. i like gaga's hair/makeup in the scene where she answers the phone in prison, very late 80's madonna. now that i mention madonna, i just realized i think this song would have been so much more spectacular if madonna were in it instead of b. damn she needs to get together with her!

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    Re: Lady Gaga - Telephone Video Premiere

    Saw this. Someone did this amazing!

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I bet Lady Gaga is a no name in five years.

    If you want a true piano talent that can do many renditions of her songs, that would be the true goddess Tori Amos. She was the youngest student ever at the Peabody Conservatory at five! (top that Gaga!) It saddens me that most people who think Gaga is so fantastic have probably never heard of Tori Amos.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I dont know, I'm in love with her.

    She's my obsession. I can classify myself as a crazed fanboy which is crazy because I've never been so into an artist like this.

    First off, she's just new and different. If you just know her by her songs then you'll think she's just someone who makes catchy pop, but she's an artist all around no matter if you consider it all a gimmick.
    She is constantly working and put so much effort into everything she does.

    Second, she's actually talented. She wasn't just thrown into the music industry because she's pretty. She was a child prodigy being accepted into prestigious art schools at a young age. So when you're listening to her, you don't get that "She cant sing it's all just marketing and autotune" vibe.

    Third, she is incredible to her fans. Lots of artist say they love their fans, but lady gaga puts actions behind her words. Hell, she bought lunch for everyone who was waiting in line for her signing which was like 1,000 something people.


    And last, she uses her fame to support the LGBT community. She's probably said more things about the gay community than any other celebrity.










    Wow i'm disgusting haha. I really do like her though.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Tori is in a category all her own.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkzilla View Post
    because she's got a gigantuous clittordick.

    it must be worshiped.
    I didn't know it was possible for you to gross me out.

    Now I know it's possible.


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    Lady Gaga Back up Dancer

    Does anybody know the name of the bleach blond male dancer of Lady Gaga? He was in the oprah performance, Grammy's and her new telephone video

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by Killjoke View Post
    Tori is in a category all her own.
    Damn straight! It's perfectly clear in this youtube vid:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7cpTp80sSg[/ame]

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    It's a case of same script, different cast. 10 years ago, the gays were all over Britney Spears as if she were the second coming of Jesus Christ and 20 years ago it was all about Madonna and so and so forth. Saying that, I do enjoy Gaga's music.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I hope she waits a little while before releasing her next CD. The Fame Monster was released so quickly after The Fame I was worried it was just gonna be full of songs that got cut from The Fame. I think it's a decent CD though, but she should wait until at least late summer before releasing anything new I think.

    It would cause her to lose a bit of momentum, but it would mean she could spend more time working on it and thus hopefully making a better CD.

    I think it'd be cool if she went for a sort of darker sound this time around. I heard this remix a few days ago, Requiem For A Romance (mashup of Requiem For A Dream and Bad Romance) and the intro was pretty cool.

    I'll try embed it here but i'm not sure if it'll work cause I don't quite know how to do it, if I fail just youtube search Requiem For A Romance and it should come up.


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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Quote Originally Posted by Native Son View Post
    When I have zero interest in something I don't make it a point for public declaration. But that's just me.
    uh..... good for you?

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    I think this article sort of half-satirically belongs in this thread:

    http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2010/02/17/25183/

    Over the past year, I have become obsessed with Lady Gaga. I’m infatuated with everything about her: the rumors that she might be a hermaphrodite, her fashion sense — most of her performance outfits look like they were designed by Gene Roddenberry on crack — and the fact that she actually writes most of her own songs. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Chingy.

    So I find it alarming that critics have concluded that the “Bad Romance” video is the work of a seriously deranged criminal mind (though Gaga did once admit that she wants to have a foursome with the Jonas Brothers). No sane person, it’s said, could reasonably have created a video as grotesque or as inscrutable.......
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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    Gaga is like the new generation Madonna. Have you ever been to a club and her song comes on, people go crazy. I think she is interesting, different and doesn't care what people think of her. I really like her music and videos.

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    [Video] Lady Gaga feat. Beyonce - Telephone

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ95z6ywcBY[/ame]
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    Re: [Video] Lady Gaga feat. Beyonce - Telephone

    Oh this is supposed to be a music video?
    I thought I just watched a ten minute advertising show ..
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    Re: [Video] Lady Gaga feat. Beyonce - Telephone

    Why would you post a very hyped video, by two very popular artist, several days after it premiered, and not expect it to be already posted.

    Here it is, a few positions down, right here on the Entertainment Forum:

    http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=298171

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    Re: Lady Gaga: Telephone

    i just watched the video for the first time with my brother and my reaction was, what the fuck?

    it was such a waste of money, and it has nothing to do with the song at all. she tried too hard i guess. Beyonce's acting was too fake.

    I didn't even enjoy the song properly.

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    Re: Lady Gaga: Telephone

    for my 3000 post

    I'd say...


    I like the fact she tries to be original but thats way too much and doesnt match the song AT ALL

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    Re: Lady Gaga - Telephone Video Premiere [MERGED]

    Threads merged...


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    Re: Lady Gaga: Telephone

    I love the video! It's so creative and amazing. Artists used to put a lot of effort into their music videos, but these days good videos are hard to come across. But Lady Gaga is setting a trend and I bet many other artists will watch the video and realise that they need to step up their game (which can only be a good thing in my opinion).

    What I really like about the video is that there is so much going on; every time you watch it you notice something new. For example, I only just noticed the Coca Cola cans in her hair.

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    Re: Lady Gaga: Telephone

    I fucking love the video. The bad acting *has* to be on purpose. Gaga and B in The Pussywagon? It was like I was having a very strange dream, lol....

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    Re: Lady Gaga: Telephone

    Lol@video doesn't match the song


    You must not know Gaga

    She doesn't do videos that match songs

    She does pop art.

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    Re: Why is Lady Gaga treated like God???

    i wouldn't call her a goddess, but her music is infectious
    you're such a pussy, my sweet boy, my sugar

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    Re: Breaking News: Lady Gaga's New Video

    cute

    all the younger gays at work mimic that "Bad Romance" video dance, that song grew on me, against my will
    you're such a pussy, my sweet boy, my sugar

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    Re: Lady Gaga does it with Beyonce!

    i wonder is beyonce feels intimidated by the GAGA, that she's practicing "keep your friends close and your enemies closer."
    you're such a pussy, my sweet boy, my sugar

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    Re: Lady Gaga Pours Drink on Homophobe

    i like her screaming at Obama.
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    Re: God hates Lady Gaga

    Quote Originally Posted by MoePhoenix7 View Post
    ^I'm so looking forward to this. Sounds like more fun than a Friday night down at the Freaknik.



    And I mean really.....how can God not love such a creature like Gagite? /



    ^So angelic and divine. It's a violation against my spirit not to worship thee.

    that pic is scary
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    Re: Barbara Walteres Interviews Lady Gaga

    is that the interview where the GAGA claims she is bisexual???
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    Re: Lady Gaga Parody

    those bugging drug eyes are scary!
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    Re: Lady Gaga's new Music Video is insanity. :| lol

    this song won't die!
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    Re: "Only queeny gay guys in tight pants with bad emo hair likes Lady Gaga"

    she's has a cross section of fans i'm sure
    you're such a pussy, my sweet boy, my sugar

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