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  1. #101
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    Awesome news!

    Bill Suck-kowski goes DOWN tonight in the primary!!!

    http://www.thealbanyproject.com/diar...s-kennedy-wins

    He just conceded. Pro-equality Tim Kennedy is now the nominee in that district.

    The tide is turning in the Empire State! What a huge win for FBNY. Hopefully they can give the heave-ho to Huntley/Diaz if they win tonight, as well as that prick Carl Kruger, next time around.

  2. #102
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    FightBackNY is two for two

    WOOOOOOT!!


    Time for a donation...

  3. #103
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    1 for 1

    Monserrate was going to lose anyway - it's ridiculous that they take credit for that.

  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    1 for 1

    Monserrate was going to lose anyway - it's ridiculous that they take credit for that.
    BLEH

    meanwhile the Maryland elections server crashed. I wanted to see if pro-equality Lori Albin squeezed in for House of Delegates.

  5. #105
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    Ooooo, I really want to see what's up with District 6 for the Senate.

    If Hadfield defeated Stone, Equality Maryland might not be so full of shit after all.

  6. #106
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    Albin came in second (we get three delegates in the 42nd)

    Lafferty came in first. He's also pro-marriage equality.

    So that's great





    Oh and by the way, Hadfield defeated Stone.

  7. #107
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    HELL YES! More good news out of New York.

    Senator Pedro Espada, despite being a Democrat who voted for gay marriage, is really someone we should all want out of the New York state senate.

    Not only does he hold a leadership position that he's abused, but he nearly killed marriage equality last year when he jumped ship and joined up with the Republicans for a few months that turned New York state into a joke.

    Well, Pedro Espada has conceded in his primary tonight. He lost to a true progressive in Gustavo Rivera.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dai...a-concede.html

    This is great news in that the culture of the New York Senate may be shaken up enough by this to really pull the rug from under Ruben Diaz even if he manages to win his RIGGED race tonight.

  8. #108
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    *shudders at certain word*


    Let's hope Diaz goes down the tubes. Why is he such a survivor? I wish New Yorkers would have made more of a ruckus about his theocratic sympathies.

  9. #109
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    The insufferable homophobe Norman Stone lost. Thank goodness...

    I can't get over it.

    That's what you get fucker

  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    Albin came in second (we get three delegates in the 42nd)

    Lafferty came in first. He's also pro-marriage equality.

    So that's great





    Oh and by the way, Hadfield defeated Stone.
    FUCK YEAH!!!!

    LoL, I missed when you posted this earlier, so I just now saw it by looking it up.

    That's great about Albin and Lafferty! This is your district, right? Where did that bitch Susan Aumann finish? lol

  11. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    The insufferable homophobe Norman Stone lost. Thank goodness...

    I can't get over it.

    That's what you get fucker
    LMAO god I feel like going up to Dundalk tonight and just dancing in the streets

    Holy fuck what a great election night

    Anything else that happens in NY is just gravy

    Also, take THAT Mike Miller, you fucking asswipe. That's what you get for stacking the Judicial Proceedings committee with conserva-dems.

  12. #112
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    Diaz was successful.

    Of all people in NY I had hoped he would be defeated.

    O well...



    Miller defeated? What does that mean for prospects now? Who will be Senate President?

  13. #113
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    No, no, Miller wasn't defeated. I was just laughing at him for putting Stone on the J.P. committee and losing the old fossil in favor of a progressive.

    Of course Diaz was successful. They totally rigged that shit in the Bronx. *sigh* Do you know what happened with Huntley vs. Nunes?

    Edit again: Ugh, bullshit, Huntley killed him. -_-

    Oh well, I'll take tonight as a victory. FBNY can go after those scumbags next time. For the first time, I'm actually excited about my own state.

  14. #114
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    Maryland goes marriage equality before NY?

    Hey, it could happen.

  15. #115
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    Don't hold your breath. EqMD only made 20 endorsements in the Senate races, which means there are only 20 of the 24 needed votes for marriage equality.

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    Anyone know if Espada's successor supports marriage equality?

    There's still a chance Carl Kruger will be kicked out of office due to seeking campaign contributions in exchange for political favors.

    We should now be pushing to vote out Frank Padavan (the Queens Republican who won by only 500 votes in 2008) and the Republican in District 1 (where Regina Calceterra was running but dropped out due to residency requirements).

  17. #117
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    Yep, Gustavo Rivera is even better than Pedro Espada on gay rights because he's a strong progressive who will fight for us, rather than make back-room deals. He's unequivocally pro-equality.

    That's interesting about Kruger. I hope Ramos can do something to get Diaz kicked out for an ethics violation. There was some really shady stuff going on in the Bronx at polling places.

    The races you mentioned were really just the tip of the iceberg, although they should definitely have our attention. There are big-time races around the Westchester area that will go a long way to determining this. The race in District 40 between Kaplowitz (pro-equality) and whoever wins for the GOP sounds particularly promising.

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    ^^^Kenneth LaVelle is the Republican in district 1 BTW. supposedly it's turning blue (liberal New Yorkers moving out to Long Island).

    I don't know of any current Democrat state senate seats that are currently in strong danger (many say New York in the only state to not be affected by the Tea Party). Many say David Valesky is the most vulnerable, yet he won with 59% in 2008.

  19. #119
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    Addabbo may be vulnerable. He won very narrowly last time around and is facing a strong challenge.

    Of course, Addabbo actually voted against marriage equality. He is a movable vote, but good riddance if he loses. That'll send yet another message: if you're a Democrat, you better support marriage equality or else you won't have the critical gay ATM machine backing you and helping you win close races.

    Are you sure LaValle will even have a Democratic challenger? I assumed he'd go unopposed if Calcaterra can't get on the ballot.

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    Also, Cuamo's coattails will also likely help the Democrats in the state senate races.

    LaValle will indeed have a Democrat challenger; Jennifer Maertz. She's a close college of Regina Calcaterra and has the exact same platforms as her.

  21. #121
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    Just how exciting is Cuomo?

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    Cuamo is leading by roughly 30% in every poll.

    As for Addabbo, he won in 2008 by 58%. Again, a pretty comfortable margin, though a poll showed he and his opponent neck-and-neck.

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    Cuamo is leading in the polls by about 30%.

    Also, Addabbo won in 2008 by 58%, so again, a good margin, but a poll did show him and his opponent pretty much neck and neck.

    BTW, when I previously said David Valesky, I really meant Brian Foley.

  24. #124
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    Valesky and Foley are both thought to have competitive races.

    More good news out of Maryland: it appears as if Victor Ramirez has won the primary for the 47th Senate District.

    Ramirez is what you'd really call a "fierce advocate." He's been a leading sponsor of marriage equality legislation in the House of Delegates.

    He's been a member of the House Judiciary and his background is legal. Even if Jordan Hadfield isn't seated on the Senate Judiciary in place of Norm Stone, it'll be very hard for leadership to justify not putting Ramirez on that committee instead, so the odds of getting a pro-equality Senator on that committee just went way up.

    Progressives got some big wins tonight in Maryland. I'm very proud of my state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    Diaz was successful.

    Of all people in NY I had hoped he would be defeated.

    O well...



    Miller defeated? What does that mean for prospects now? Who will be Senate President?


    Diaz opponent inventories polling woes

    http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/a...-polling-woes/

    Thank goodness the definition of marriage does change over time. Women were originally thought of as property and marriage was originally about an exchange of property.

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    Under our noses: Chicago LGBT folk should watch Meeks closely

    http://www.feastoffun.com/topics/pol...meeks-closely/

    Thank goodness the definition of marriage does change over time. Women were originally thought of as property and marriage was originally about an exchange of property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    ....

    Progressives got some big wins tonight in Maryland. I'm very proud of my state.
    As am I.

    This will be the gay friendliest legislature yet, and good thing too. There won't be another one until 2014.

  28. #128
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    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

    So apparently we celebrated too soon last night. Some of the final results were compiled late last night/early this morning, and they all came back in favor of Stone.

    Norm Stone won that district after all. :|

    That'll teach me to have ANY sort of pride in this dumbass state, LMFAO. Thank fuck I'm moving out of this area soon. Go to hell, Maryland. And screw you, EqMD, you dropped the ball.

  29. #129

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    Too add some stuff:

    -Valesky won by 65% in 2008. Again, I don't know vulnerable he, Foley, and Addabbo really are, but they may have competative races nontheless.

    -Great news for Maryland! Concentrate now on re-electing O Mailey (he recently said he'd sign a gay marriage bill if passed).

    -The letter to the Board of Elections in New York is interesting. Hope something comes of that.

  30. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

    So apparently we celebrated too soon last night. Some of the final results were compiled late last night/early this morning, and they all came back in favor of Stone.

    Norm Stone won that district after all. :|

    That'll teach me to have ANY sort of pride in this dumbass state, LMFAO. Thank fuck I'm moving out of this area soon. Go to hell, Maryland. And screw you, EqMD, you dropped the ball.
    LOL thanks for the vote of confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scream4ever View Post
    -Great news for Maryland! Concentrate now on re-electing O Mailey (he recently said he'd sign a gay marriage bill if passed).
    We did have victories in addition to some disappointments, as did New York.

    But there will never be a time I say we should just throw in the towel and move to Canada.

  32. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    LOL thanks for the vote of confidence.
    Why should I give praise to an institution that failed AND lied?

  33. #133
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    Good news!

    Neil Abercrombie defeated Mufi Hannemann to become Democratic nominee for the governor's race in Hawaii. Abercrombie is very progressive, and supported Hawaii's civil unions bill that was vetoed by Linda Lingle.

    Hannemann was another Mormon whackjob who didn't even support civil unions.

    Abercrombie is a real progressive, and part of me wonders if he'd even go as far as pushing for marriage equality in Hawaii (no idea if the legislature would go for that).

    Also, not to beat a dead horse, but a side note about New York:

    I watched an interview of Joseph Addabbo and he definitely sounds eminently movable on the marriage issue. I think two or three Democratic pick-ups in the Senate can get some combination of him and Alesi and put it over the top.

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    ^^^I've wondered about that too regarding Hawaii. I'm sure it would pass in both chambers, since the civil unions bill got near supermajority support in both.

    Good news about New York! I think it's pretty likely that the Dems. will make gains in the Senate this election. The 3 seats that are the most "threatened" don't seem to threatened to me (in 2008 the Dems. won them by 15%, 18%, and 30%) and as I said before, Cuamo's coattails will prove beneficial. Padavan's seat will shift Dem. for sure (he won by less then 500 votes in 2008). There is no info. on Kenneth LaVelle's seat nor the one in northern Westchester/Putnam county since in 2008 they ran unnapposed.

    As of now, we need 4 more votes in the NY Senate (we could win with a tie since the Leutenaint Governor would cast the deciding vote). In reality, the only Dems. that are immovable are Diaz and Huntley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    Why should I give praise to an institution that failed AND lied?
    I don't stand by my friends only in the best of times.

  36. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by scream4ever View Post
    ^^^I've wondered about that too regarding Hawaii. I'm sure it would pass in both chambers, since the civil unions bill got near supermajority support in both.

    Good news about New York! I think it's pretty likely that the Dems. will make gains in the Senate this election. The 3 seats that are the most "threatened" don't seem to threatened to me (in 2008 the Dems. won them by 15%, 18%, and 30%) and as I said before, Cuamo's coattails will prove beneficial. Padavan's seat will shift Dem. for sure (he won by less then 500 votes in 2008). There is no info. on Kenneth LaVelle's seat nor the one in northern Westchester/Putnam county since in 2008 they ran unnapposed.

    As of now, we need 4 more votes in the NY Senate (we could win with a tie since the Leutenaint Governor would cast the deciding vote). In reality, the only Dems. that are immovable are Diaz and Huntley.
    You're wrong about that last line, I'm afraid. Kruger and Aubertine almost certainly won't move on this, either.

    Kenneth LaValle's seat is pretty vulnerable, actually. I looked at the 2008 figures, and I determined that for all of the votes LaValle got, there were almost as many people who didn't vote for him and just left the ballot blank. That's very telling. I think there are a lot of people in that district who will vote for the Democrat this time.

    I think districts 1, 11, and 40 are the best opportunities for pick-ups, but it's still somewhat of a longshot to get all three at once. Maybe they'll pull off a miracle in 41 or 44.

    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    I don't stand by my friends only in the best of times.
    I don't stand by my "friends" who lie to me about important things. They said marriage equality would happened next year when they knew that wasn't a guarantee.

    Not only that, but I don't see the point in doing anything in Maryland. It's done until the next election cycle. We can't get anything until 2014.

    I wouldn't mind if they just pushed for civil unions, but nobody seems willing to do that any more.

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    Kruger continues to come under fire:

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/09...or_amigos.html

    Aubertine I guess can't move on this issue even if he wanted to, since his district is "lean Republican".

    I think it's a good bet that Districts 1 and 11 will filp. District 40 is more of a longshot. Putnam county voted 53.4% for McCain. Westchester county voted 63% for Obama, though I assume results in the northern area were much more Republican. Still, 2 Democrat gains may very well be enough to push it over the edge. All of this speculation of course is assuming that no additional Republicans (other then Alessi) will vote Yes (seems likely, but who knows).

  38. #138
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    Nah, they really need 3 seats. 2 seats flipping just wouldn't be enough to even bring it to a vote. Sampson has gone on record saying they're not going to bring it to a vote again unless they have guaranteed votes.

    A 2-seat swing would bring it to 29 guaranteed, and then they'd need Addabbo+Alesi to get it to 31, which would only make it a tie (presumably, the tie-break would go in favor of marriage equality).

    That's just too big of a risk.

    But I think 40 really is movable. Greg Ball won the Republican nomination there, and he's a whacko tea partier. Tea partiers really aren't favored among the general electorate in NY. Mike Kaplowitz is a moderate (although in favor of marriage equality) who secured the Independence Party line on the ballot. That's a pretty good sign. Senate District 40 was a lot like District 1 in the last election - the unopposed, long-time incumbent (who is now retiring) got fewer votes than the blank ballot. A real choice might draw for the Dem.

    Here's an interesting little piece that shows the contrast between Kaplowitz (awesome candidate) and Ball (lunatic):

    http://www.thealbanyproject.com/diar...mike-kaplowitz

    They've really lost the plot in Westchester if they go for Ball.

    Also, I doubt Kruger will face any real consequences for that. Hell, Monserrate beat up his girlfriend, got arrested, got EXPELLED form the freaking Senate, and was still allowed to run for his Senate seat.

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    As to Hawaii --

    I have a sister-in-law there, part native blood, who is furious with the way the provisions for honoring the native ways have been kicked off to the side. Hawaii had same-sex unions that weren't just permitted, but honored. What we see these days is just a continuation of the missionary imperialism that almost wiped out native culture in the first place.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

  40. #140
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    The Mormons have really gotten a foothold there. Nice to see that fuckery tainting so much of the west.

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    Malcom Smith said the same thing as Sampson and yet it still came to a vote (months later, but still). Hopefully the Leutenant Governor will be vocal about casting a Yes vote in the event of a tie.

    With what you've said it seems much more likely to gain all three then I originally thought. It's true that New York is one of the few states to not be affected by the Tea Party movement. It won't help either for them the fact that Palandino is batshit crazy (he's really giving Rachel Maddow a lot of airtime!).

    As for Kruger, it's not just allegations. He's being investigated by the FBI. We'll see where it leads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    As to Hawaii --

    I have a sister-in-law there, part native blood, who is furious with the way the provisions for honoring the native ways have been kicked off to the side. Hawaii had same-sex unions that weren't just permitted, but honored. What we see these days is just a continuation of the missionary imperialism that almost wiped out native culture in the first place.
    That's true to an extent among Native Americans on the mainland as well. Many tribes have conducted/honored same sex relationships throughout history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scream4ever View Post
    Malcom Smith said the same thing as Sampson and yet it still came to a vote (months later, but still). Hopefully the Leutenant Governor will be vocal about casting a Yes vote in the event of a tie.

    With what you've said it seems much more likely to gain all three then I originally thought. It's true that New York is one of the few states to not be affected by the Tea Party movement. It won't help either for them the fact that Palandino is batshit crazy (he's really giving Rachel Maddow a lot of airtime!).

    As for Kruger, it's not just allegations. He's being investigated by the FBI. We'll see where it leads.
    Well I didn't say it was just allegations, but the fact stands that it seems very hard to get someone kicked out of the Senate. I really wish they could get him AND Diaz out of there, as they should be, but I won't hold my breath.

    As for your first part, I think they decided to hold the vote anyway just to see where everyone stood. They wanted to expose the conservadems and get them out of there. Now that they've done that, I doubt they'll bring it up again unless it really is certain to pass.

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    I won't hold my breath either about them, but still.

    When it comes to holding a vote, you always have some that are classified as "undecided/won't say" who will vote Yes when the bill is brought to the floor. Even with fewer then 30 confirmed Yes votes (last year there were like 22 confirmed Yes votes), it would likely be enough to outnumber the confirmed No votes.

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    I don't stand by my "friends" who lie to me about important things. They said marriage equality would happened next year when they knew that wasn't a guarantee.

    Not only that, but I don't see the point in doing anything in Maryland. It's done until the next election cycle. We can't get anything until 2014.


    This doesn't seem like the most constructive way to move forward.

    Equality Maryland's problem may be overconfidence, not dishonesty.


    I wouldn't mind if they just pushed for civil unions, but nobody seems willing to do that any more.
    I think we will see more DP rights coming down the pipeline. If not marriage, or even civil unions, it is ultimately about the rights as much as it is about equality. Though this election cycle may just be hampered by a conservative insurgency. Such cycles are just as inevitable as is the inevitable course of increasing liberty for minorities in American history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scream4ever View Post
    That's true to an extent among Native Americans on the mainland as well. Many tribes have conducted/honored same sex relationships throughout history.
    Right. The thing is, the Hawaiians' customs/traditions/whatever were supposedly protected in the state constitution. They shouldn't have needed a fight at all!

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    I haven't been following many of the races as intently as others here, probably because I am an expat living in Norway now - but one senator I've had much respect for in California, Barbara Boxer, seems to be fighting an uphill battle against Carly Fiorina. And that in the crucial "gay battleground" state! Any (reassuring) news from there?

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    ^No news that I have. They seem to be in a very close race, still.

    The good news as far as the U.S. Senate goes is that Chris Coons, the guy who had the good fortune of getting put up against whackjob Christine O'Donnell in Delaware, is a supporter of full equality.
    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    This doesn't seem like the most constructive way to move forward.

    Equality Maryland's problem may be overconfidence, not dishonesty.




    I think we will see more DP rights coming down the pipeline. If not marriage, or even civil unions, it is ultimately about the rights as much as it is about equality. Though this election cycle may just be hampered by a conservative insurgency. Such cycles are just as inevitable as is the inevitable course of increasing liberty for minorities in American history.
    You're right. I was kind of bitter the other night. I still am to some extent. I'm a very results-based person.

    I'm really cynical due to the antics of HRC. I don't trust gay rights orgs. very easily. It seems like EqualityMD does some of the same things that HRC does - a lot of big, expensive dinners with not as many big action events. I've been kind of skeptical of them.

    But it's ultimately not their fault the voters of Dundalk weren't willing to embrace change. It's just so...damned...frustrating. How can these two little areas of Maryland (Baltimore suburbs + southern Maryland where Muse and Miller are) hijack the entire equal rights movement?

    You are right - maybe we can at least get further DP rights, which is something. Thankfully, Gansler is going to get re-elected so the decision about honoring outside marriages isn't going anywhere.

    Do you work for EqMD, Jockboy? If so, you should spill as to what work they're doing.

    More good news out of New York!

    Andrew Cuomo is going to investigate Ruben Diaz for his campaign improprieties. Please, please let something happen to get that fucker kicked out. *crosses fingers*

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    ^^^

    Alright. I'll buy that.

    I don't work for Equality Maryland, but I am privy to some insider conversations from time to time when I'm volunteering. Yes they are as serious as ever about lobbying efforts and no they don't have much money to play with. They are not well endowed like HRC is.

    EQMD is a small office near Ravens stadium with four cubicles and two private offices. They have a small general area, but they do have a dishwasher, lol. I suppose Morgan, Owen, and the others work late hours enough to eat dinner there.

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    Re: Gay Marriage Updates By State

    Quote Originally Posted by Teddybear71 View Post
    I haven't been following many of the races as intently as others here, probably because I am an expat living in Norway now - but one senator I've had much respect for in California, Barbara Boxer, seems to be fighting an uphill battle against Carly Fiorina. And that in the crucial "gay battleground" state! Any (reassuring) news from there?
    Personally I'd be happy to see Boxer go down. She's a rabid police-state supporter who'd rather see criminals armed and make citizens their helpless victims than admit the Second Amendment really exists.

    If only the guy nearby who hates almost the entire Bill of Rights, John "free speech is for the powerful" McCain would go down, it would balance on other issues.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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