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    Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    His real name was Thomas Earl Hagen, he was born August 7, 1957 in Greenwich, Connecticut, and died of a heart attack on May 21, 2001 in Salt Lake City, Utah. Another interesting fact is that he got married in 1983 and fathered 3 daughters.

    "Kip Noll, also Kip Knoll was an American pornographic actor who appeared in gay pornographic films and magazines in the 1970s and 1980s. Noll, who was a lean-muscled, shaggy-haired, free-spirited surfer type, achieved iconic status in the newly liberated gay culture of the late 1970s and early 1980s. He was a young hustler and stripper in gay clubs in New York City during his teen years."

    "By the early 1980s Kip Noll had become one of the first superstars in the gay porn industry"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kip_Noll

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Google--> dead porn stars and it will show sites that have all kinds of info on all kinds of porn stars, male/female/gay/str8t.

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    "just 43" is not that young.

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    Of course 43 is young m1

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Quote Originally Posted by m1thousand View Post
    "just 43" is not that young.
    Yeah, it is.
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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Sorry never heard of kip noll.

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    OMG, he was all the rage in early m/m porn. He was in all the hot movies when i used to hit the theatres in NYC. Can't say i know he was dead tho...

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Quote Originally Posted by m1thousand View Post
    "just 43" is not that young.
    Stupid post of the year!

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?





    He was probably THE first gay twink superstar and a favorite actor of director William Higgins. William Higgins was instrumental in changing the look of gay porn from loop films into full length movies with plots. Also a lot of the gay porn in the 60s and 70s focused on males in their mid-20s to early 30s while Higgins concentrated on stars aged 19 through early 20s.

    There were several other actors who were supposedly his brothers or cousins:
    Jeff Noll, Chris Noll, Bob Noll, Scott Noll, Chip Noll, and Marc Noll

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    I wonder if it was drug related?
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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    i think kip noll had a twin brother who was a minister

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Wow... At 43.... can't help but wonder what happened. I remember him very well and do still have some old VHS with him featured in them in one of those boxes.

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    He was a dynamic porn star in his day...

    And when he did a scene with my favorite, Jon King.....WOW! Words can't describe how hot that scene was!

    Too bad he died so young.....


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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonR18 View Post
    His real name was Thomas Earl Hagen, he was born August 7, 1957 in Greenwich, Connecticut, and died of a heart attack on May 21, 2001 in Salt Lake City, Utah. Another interesting fact is that he got married in 1983 and fathered 3 daughters.

    "Kip Noll, also Kip Knoll was an American pornographic actor who appeared in gay pornographic films and magazines in the 1970s and 1980s. Noll, who was a lean-muscled, shaggy-haired, free-spirited surfer type, achieved iconic status in the newly liberated gay culture of the late 1970s and early 1980s. He was a young hustler and stripper in gay clubs in New York City during his teen years."

    "By the early 1980s Kip Noll had become one of the first superstars in the gay porn industry"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kip_Noll

    I've read a few articles by several gay porn chroniclers that say that this isn't true. Not that they say Thomas Earl Hagen didn't die of a heart attack. Just that there is no real proof that this is the same Thomas Earl Hagen who made gay porn as Kip Knoll. There is a long running thread regarding this on Atkol. I also believe that one of the persons debating this on Atkol also went to the trouble of contacting this person's surviving family and came away convinced this Mr. Hagen was not the same person as Kip Knoll. At the very least, that information is unverifiable.

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Quote Originally Posted by wizardo View Post
    I've read a few articles by several gay porn chroniclers that say that this isn't true. Not that they say Thomas Earl Hagen didn't die of a heart attack. Just that there is no real proof that this is the same Thomas Earl Hagen who made gay porn as Kip Knoll. There is a long running thread regarding this on Atkol. I also believe that one of the persons debating this on Atkol also went to the trouble of contacting this person's surviving family and came away convinced this Mr. Hagen was not the same person as Kip Knoll. At the very least, that information is unverifiable.
    Hmm, interesting. But I'm wondering if the info on Atkol falls under the category of, "You can't believe everything you read." For example, I just read the following comment:
    "You talked about Kip Knoll. He is one of my favorite performers from that time! According to Charon's Ferry, it appears that he is still living. I'm really glad to hear that." It was dated Nov. 25, 2004, and posted on:
    http://championstudios.net/jeremysco...mailsTroy.html

    But when I went to the Charon's Ferry site, it indicated the opposite, that Kip was deceased. "Thomas Earl "KIP KNOLL" Hagen ( August 7, 1957 - May 21, 2001 The first true Gay SuperStar greatly beloved heart attack )" http://charonsferry.com/

    Which just goes to show how wrong people can be. Logic dictates that he is dead, simply because everyone Kip worked for had to have his date of birth. And obviously, they've all heard the conflicting reports about his death from porn industry organizations. So all they'd have to do is compare the DOB they have on file with the one that was listed in the Salt Lake city obituary. And if they didn't match, the "official" word would have been put out that it was the wrong Thomas Earl Hagen.

    And if someone said he contacted a surviving family member, that's totally unreliable info. Because he could just be a lying troll seeking attention, or he could have been lied to by the family member who didn't want to be connected to Kip's past gay porn/hustler life. As they may have been afraid that if they confirmed the relationship, they'd be contacted by 100's of Kip's fans, etc.


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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonR18 View Post
    Logic dictates that he is dead, simply because everyone Kip worked for had to have his date of birth. And obviously, they've all heard the conflicting reports about his death from porn industry organizations. So all they'd have to do is compare the DOB they have on file with the one that was listed in the Salt Lake city obituary. And if they didn't match, the "official" word would have been put out that it was the wrong Thomas Earl Hagen.
    Your logic is suspect. Do you really think porn moguls give a crap if some kid who worked for them 20 years earlier (if he made porn in his 20's and dies in his 40's) dies? I doubt they' run to theire record books and clarify the record.
    And I've read several reports of "dead" stars being alive and well on rame.net. And Kip isn't listed as dead there
    http://www.rame.net/faq/deadporn/
    All that being said, I hope he's resting peacefully if he is dead or having a great life if he is alive. It doesn't affect me one way or another.

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    So young! and so sad

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Quote Originally Posted by NedNickerson View Post
    There were several other actors who were supposedly his brothers or cousins:
    Jeff Noll, Chris Noll, Bob Noll, Scott Noll, Chip Noll, and Marc Noll
    Bob Noll, Mark Noll, Scott Noll, and Jeff Noll were all unrelated to him, but were presented as his brothers as a marketing gimmick. He does have 6 actual brothers though, so it's likely that one or more of them did appear with him in a video. Maybe Chris is his real brother.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayden View Post
    Sorry never heard of kip noll.
    There's some really hot videos of him, you ought to check him out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tadaa View Post
    I wonder if it was drug related?
    Quote Originally Posted by Horschallen View Post
    Wow... At 43.... can't help but wonder what happened. I remember him very well and do still have some old VHS with him featured in them in one of those boxes.
    He was being treated for substance abuse at the "Salt Lake City Mission" at the time of his death. It was probably cocaine that did him in, as that seems to be the drug of choice among porn stars.

    "The average age of people in the study who suffered heart attacks soon after using cocaine was only 44," Mittleman notes. "That's about 17 years younger than the average heart attack patient. Of the 38 cocaine users who had heart attacks, 29 had no prior symptoms of heart disease."

    Source: http://www.cocaine.org/health/index.html

    Quote Originally Posted by ronboy View Post
    He was a dynamic porn star in his day...

    And when he did a scene with my favorite, Jon King.....WOW! Words can't describe how hot that scene was!

    Too bad he died so young.....
    Yeah, I remember Kip with Jon, they made an incredible "couple." Sadly though, Jon died from AIDS when he was just 32. http://listing-index.ebay.com/actors...n_star%29.html

    Quote Originally Posted by NVRMOR View Post
    Your logic is suspect. Do you really think porn moguls give a crap if some kid who worked for them 20 years earlier (if he made porn in his 20's and dies in his 40's) dies? I doubt they' run to theire record books and clarify the record.
    And I've read several reports of "dead" stars being alive and well on rame.net. And Kip isn't listed as dead there
    http://www.rame.net/faq/deadporn/
    All that being said, I hope he's resting peacefully if he is dead or having a great life if he is alive. It doesn't affect me one way or another.
    Your suspicion of my logic is suspect. As the title of this thread indicates, Kip was clearly not just "some kid who worked for them," he was a porn "superstar," one of the first in the gay porn industry. And as Ned states above, "He was probably THE first gay twink superstar and a favorite actor of director William Higgins." As well, as FPNY said above, "he was all the rage in early m/m porn."

    And here's a couple of excerpts from http://www.amazines.com/Kip_Noll_related.html

    1) "By the early 1980s Kip Noll had become one of the first megastars in the gay porn industry"

    2) "achieved iconic status in the newly liberated gay culture of the late 1970s and early 1980s"

    As well, off-camera, he was genuinely friendly, and a very likeable guy. So yes, I'm quite sure that some of the people he worked for "gives a crap" about whether he's really dead. That's why I said, "Logic dictates that he is dead."

    RE: And I've read several reports of "dead" stars being alive and well on rame.net. And Kip isn't listed as dead there

    That's funny, they recommend my source, http://charonsferry.com/ for further reading, and indicate that
    it has info they don't have: "We recommend these sites for further reading. We have some, but not all, of the information from these sites in our list: Charon's Ferry, Ken's Gallery of Deceased Actors"


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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Kip Noll was the first gay porn star i saw in video at adult book store in Terra Haute ID years ago. It was called Cuming of Age with Kip Noll, Scott Noll and Seven York. Kip catches Scott jacking off, makes him eat his own cum and then takes care of Scott. Joined by Steve they suck and fuck and loads of cum. Thye end up in the shower to get good and clean.

    Love the work Kip did with William Higgins so many hot videos so sexy so honry. Worked with likes of JW King, Jeremy Scott, Derick Statton, and others.

    Have copy of his DVD The Legend of Kip Noll. Given me great pleasures on number of occasions to see him suck, fuck be fucked and unload his cum.

    Yes am fan of Kip and sorry he died so young.

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Found the following in the Social Security Death Index:

    Name: Thomas E. Hagen
    SSN: 043-60-1550
    Born: 7 Aug 1957
    Died: 21 May 2001
    State (Year) SSN issued: Connecticut (1973-1977)

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Kip Noll was LONG before my time, but he has such iconic status in the gay porn world that, I did make a point of seeking out his movies some time ago. I have seen him in Pacific Coast Highway and The Boys Of Venice, both classic William Higgins movies. Hot stuff ! It is no surprise that he made such an impact.

    From what I've read, it seems probable that Kip’s real name WAS Thomas Earl Hagen, but whether or not he is/was the same Thomas Earl Hagen as the one reported on the SSDI and other official files continues to be debated.

    Of course, if it’s a case of mistaken identity and he IS still alive, he’s unlikely to come forward at this late stage. Many porn stars, once their “playing days” are over, choose to simply fade into the background. Many of them (perhaps Kip included) have done this quite successfully.

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonR18 View Post
    Your suspicion of my logic is suspect. As the title of this thread indicates, Kip was clearly not just "some kid who worked for them," he was a porn "superstar," one of the first in the gay porn industry. And as Ned states above, "He was probably THE first gay twink superstar and a favorite actor of director William Higgins." As well, as FPNY said above, "he was all the rage in early m/m porn."

    And here's a couple of excerpts from http://www.amazines.com/Kip_Noll_related.html

    1) "By the early 1980s Kip Noll had become one of the first megastars in the gay porn industry"

    2) "achieved iconic status in the newly liberated gay culture of the late 1970s and early 1980s"

    As well, off-camera, he was genuinely friendly, and a very likeable guy. So yes, I'm quite sure that some of the people he worked for "gives a crap" about whether he's really dead. That's why I said, "Logic dictates that he is dead."

    RE: And I've read several reports of "dead" stars being alive and well on rame.net. And Kip isn't listed as dead there

    That's funny, they recommend my source, http://charonsferry.com/ for further reading, and indicate that
    it has info they don't have: "We recommend these sites for further reading. We have some, but not all, of the information from these sites in our list: Charon's Ferry, Ken's Gallery of Deceased Actors"
    So...I can rest easy know tomorrow the sun will rise in the East and RonR was once again 100% correct

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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Prior to 1995 studios were not required to maintain records of model's date of birth. (18 USC Section 2257)

    I suspect most didn't even keep Model Releases on file either.
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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Quote Originally Posted by LavenderLounge View Post
    Prior to 1995 studios were not required to maintain records of model's date of birth. (18 USC Section 2257)

    I suspect most didn't even keep Model Releases on file either.
    What about their social security number for income tax purposes? Also, since Kip was a "young hustler and stripper in gay clubs in New York City during his teen years," I'm thinking that every gay guy he worked for in the porn business had sex with him at some point. Especially since he was a bottom as well as a top. I mean, who could resist fucking his sizzling hot ass?

    And since he was a genuinely friendly, likeable guy, logic dictates that some of the guys he worked for had an emotional connection with him, and thus kept in touch with him, or at least kept all of his personal/tax info for sentimental reasons. Thus, they could easily determine whether the Thomas Earl Hagen who died in Salt Lake City was really Kip, and at least one of them would have put the word out if it wasn't him.


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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonR18 View Post
    What about their social security number for income tax purposes?
    I was actually referring to producers in the 70's and earlier. Kip Noll was primarily from the early 80's and by then studios were more business-like.

    Right now, Chi Chi LaRue and Channel One owns a lot of the old William Higgins material, but to find one single model release or 1099 tax form out of 10's of thousands of models they have to keep track of would a waste of time.
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    Re: Did you know porn superstar Kip Noll died from a heart attack when he was just 43?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strephon View Post
    Kip Noll was LONG before my time, but he has such iconic status in the gay porn world that, I did make a point of seeking out his movies some time ago. I have seen him in Pacific Coast Highway and The Boys Of Venice, both classic William Higgins movies. Hot stuff ! It is no surprise that he made such an impact.

    From what I've read, it seems probable that Kip’s real name WAS Thomas Earl Hagen, but whether or not he is/was the same Thomas Earl Hagen as the one reported on the SSDI and other official files continues to be debated.

    Of course, if it’s a case of mistaken identity and he IS still alive, he’s unlikely to come forward at this late stage. Many porn stars, once their “playing days” are over, choose to simply fade into the background. Many of them (perhaps Kip included) have done this quite successfully.
    RE: "whether or not he is/was the same Thomas Earl Hagen as the one reported on the SSDI and other official files continues to be debated."

    I'm wondering if the debaters are aware of what porn mogul William Higgins alluded to, who first hired "Kip" in 1977: "the man millions once fantasized about as Kip Noll is now married (to a woman), living quietly somewhere in the Rockies, working as an auto mechanic, and the father of several children." This would coincide with the description of Thomas Earl Hagen who was living in Salt Lake City at the time of his death, and had 3 kids. Of course, I don't know whether he was an auto mechanic.

    Source: http://cache.zoominfo.com/CachedPage...&lastName=Noll

    RE: "Of course, if it’s a case of mistaken identity and he IS still alive, he’s unlikely to come forward at this late stage."

    I agree, and if he is alive, he's probably laughing his ass off that people think he's dead. Because for an ex-porn star who wants to bury his past, the circumstances couldn't get much better than this.

    But if the deceased man is not "Kip," the thing that puzzles me the most is why none of his relatives have come forward to set the record straight. Because as you can see from his obituary, he has many family members, any of whom could conceivably be outraged that their loved one is being depicted as a former
    "gay club hustler/gay for pay porn star
    ." Particularly since their own names are linked to him as well.

    In other words, when they google "Thomas Earl Hagen" to check out his obituary, the below are the first listings they'll see. (The first one is his obituary.) And as you can see, "Kip" is shown to have the same date of birth and death as Thomas, with the wife of Thomas listed as "Kip's" spouse.



    My father died when I was 14, and if my mother had gone online to find his obituary and was confronted by websites erroneously stating that she had been married to a "gay club hustler/gay for pay porn star," she'd cry for a week. Then she'd have her brother (an attorney) file lawsuits against the posters for defamation and "negligent infliction of emotional distress."

    And with all the relatives Thomas has, what are the odds that not a single one of them has googled his name since he died in 2001?


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