Make The World Move liveeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed it!!! It was awesome and she looked like she was having so much fun. Her outfit was HOT!! And I loved the little touch the Hips Don't Lie trumpets gave the song. I'm happy, this got me excited!
the performance was all over the place
but that was at least you expected before since Christina n Cee Lo together on the stage
Im still loving the pink afro wigs she's wearing back when Halloween Party last month
and that last long high note
she's so pitchy hahaa, I dont know maybe it's kinda noisy with so many things going on the stage
or she could not hear her voice with her ears (you can see her adjusting her ears with her hands)
but overall it's so fun!!
I think it's a performance for them since they will not be there on The Voice 4
and a Hips Dont Lie trumpets kinda a welcoming music for Shakira next season
Im gonna miss them, I mean miss the chemistry from those 4 coaches together
Just for fun...
Try not to get pissed at me
I bought the deluxe edition of Lotus yesterday, and I must say it is free of imperfections.
Track 5 and 6 are my favs right now.
Just A fool would make sense as a single. The song is powerful and It could really go well with a little bit of promo.
Anyone seen the live of Make the world move ??
Aguilera needs to stop hitting the high notes if she can't do it. I mean it's Ok to mess up with one live song. But lately she has been destroying every live performance she did. I mean come on christina, we re used to sthg better coming from u !
Anyway, at this point, I dont thnik they will ever do something with th record. They wont promote any singles, and she'll go on tour hopefully with the Lotus project behind her already.
yeah im not very optimistic but even if any of Cease fire, circles, just a fool, let there be love or army of me could goes out as a single, RCA an aguilera wont promote it. It's just my opinion.
Lotus is good, it's not as good as Bionic, back to basics & Stripped, but it's entertaining.
Now chiristina get it all together, think straight and come back next year with Back to basics 2.0
^ I think Bi-on-ic is better too, should have been more successful.
Lotus projected to sell 70-80k first week.
That is 30-40k less than Bionic.
How depressing for her. I guess that's what happens when you don't promote and your single makes zero impact on the radio.
Aguilera used to sell 300-500k first week.
I've only been listening to the album for a day or so. I like it.
Best tracks on the album:
03. Red Hot Kinda Love
06. Let There Be Love
12. Best of Me
14. Light Up the Sky
That's disappointing given all the free promo she gets on The Voice every week and stuff. I was expecting at least a 100k+ debut, especially because at this time of year album sales are the strongest (holiday season).
Guess this might be Christina's second album in a row to miss the Platinum mark.
the problem is that even though she's on the Voice which is a great platform, she hasn't been saying "hey y'all go check out my album" incessantly...when really she should have. If I were a semi regular viewer of The Voice and not a stan, how am I supposed to know she has a new album unless she says so?
also I knew it was a horrible idea to release the same week as One Direction....can't beat horny teenage girls. I am one of those horny teenage girls though. (not literally) I tried to resist but Niall Horan is too cute.
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO RESIST THIS
this also happened.
^I still don't get the One Direction appeal, musically or looks-wise even, they all look like jailbait. I prefer the boys of The Wanted, and like some of their songs too.
But Christina is dangerously close to being a has-been. I still don't understand her need to put out generic radio crap on both Bionic and this album (Your Body, I'm looking at you). She was like so different, fresh, and unique when she came out with Back to Basics. The entire sound of that album was so different than anything on mainstream and I don't understand why she didn't stick to it. She's basically sending "musical wallpaper" songs to radio now. It's like you go in a room, notice the wallpaper for a second and then don't care anymore. That's how I feel about her recent releases. You recognize her voice and then it's like "oh okay, so what?"
I'm seriously wondering if she even cares.
I can't and won't pay for this. At least she still has loyal fans who will buy her stuff regardless. For now--I'm not seeing any "growth" musically. And that's not working for me.
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She may get an increase from the performance with Cee Lo and the announcement on The Voice of her album dropping. Who knows. Let's hope.
But you guys are right. I like Christina when she has a clear vision. When the album is more cohesive.
Lotus is just, meh. Forgettable. Except for a few tracks.
To restart her career I think she needs to recruit Mark Ronson (Back to Black). Or Stuart Price (Confessions on A Dance Floor). Or maybe Timbaland.
I don't know.
I don't think she cares anymore about being the big popstar, she hasn't promoted this album as much as she should've, she released Your Body 2 months ago and we didn't even get a real performance until Tuesday's and it was completely different song (that I loved BTW but still) and the next one we'll get is the AMAs and we know nothing else. She just doesn't care I guess. As I fan it's kinda sad but I've made my peace with it, I'm happy to enjoy her music and her "presence" as a celebrity but I don't expect her to be in the league of Rihanna, Katy Perry or Justin Bieber right now. She's not even trying.
I do think it is strange that she made probably the most commercial album since her Genie days, an album with the potential to have multiple hit singles, but she still doesn't bother to get her ass off her couch and promote.
But with Lotus the problem is completely the opposite, the music is really commercial and radio friendly so that's no problem, the problem is the lack of promotion. Most people don't know about Lotus unless you are a Christina fan. Her promo was based on posting Youtube clips and tweeting...that's bullsh!t! Those tweets and Youtube videos are only seen by her subscribers and followers...HER FANS. The general audience that doesn't care enough to follow or subscribe doesn't even know anything.
I mean the only Your Body performance we got was the one on Jimmy Fallon with a freaking stapler for God's sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL. I swear this bitch loves to troll us.
The biggest problem isn't lack of promotion. It's the material she chooses to record and put out to radio. Seriously. WTF is radio friendly? If you listen to Adele's 21 album none of the songs fill the description of being "radio friendly". It's an entire album filled with ballads. She made radio love them, as opposed to making songs that the radio loves by default. She didn't give a shit about what was big on radio then.
That's what Christina needs to do. I don't give a flying fuck about "radio friendly" crap. You don't use a 4 octave once in a generation voice to make radio friendly crap. You dictate what radio should sound like. If we want radio friendly we can just switch to Rihanna, Katy, GaGa and what not. Those ladies are all radio friendly material which is why they can hit the top of the charts for 10 weeks even and then a year later nobody gives 2 shits about their hits and they have to consistently put out new songs or we forget them.
None of them can make a song like Beautiful and have people praising it even after a decade of its release. They cannot. Nobody gives a flying fuck about Just Dance, I Kissed a Girl, We Found Love, Umbrella, etc anymore. They are all radio friendly. But they are not iconic. They have a short shelf life.
Christina needs to grow a fucking pair and stop giving a shit about what radio wants and instead put out good music instead of putting out absolute generic music. It doesn't do her any justice. It's an insult to my intelligence if Christina camp thinks I will approve her singing shit ANYBODY else on radio could have recorded.
I want Back to basics 2.0
imagine if she did promo like her previous albums
Stripped - live performance at MTV, VMA appearance, magazine cover, radio
Back to Basics - ANOM debut performance at MTV Movie Awards, magazine cover, and branding people she was a BABY JANE
even Bionic had it - Oprah, Today Show, Good Morning, performance at Leno, magazine cover etc etc
just several interviews from her home, Jimmy Fallon, and others but she was promoting The Voice
20% promoting Lotus
I miss her performance at Good Morning America too
After all she problly makes more money with the voice than she does with LOtus, that makes sesn to promote the voice then LOL
BreakTheIce in here preaching! lol
Once again, I agree with everything you're saying.
But you're going to have to lay up off "Umbrella". That's a classic!
They're also in my age group. I'm like a month older than Louis. I can probably pass as jailbait too so I guess the idea of them "looking like jailbait" has never really occurred to me.
As for the Wanted...they just give off this really douchey vibe.
I thought Bionic was more coherent. But meh. I don't know anymore. I liked how Stripped was Xtina, B2B was Baby Jane, and Bionic was Madam X. Lotus -> ???
Another huge problem is image. When I was studying GRE vocab, I came across the word fulsome...and that's what I think of MOST of Christina outfits these days.
if she looked like this more often...
she said the Voice performance of Make the World Move was all about royalty...I'm like "no grrrl" The only queen that would wear a wig like that would be a drag queen.
oh btw Your Body finally became top ten in Canada's hot 100!!!
I don't know what Christina you're talking about but you're getting it all wrong, her music hasn't been about "what radio wants" for the past 10 years (I'm not complaining, that's just how it was). Neither Back to Basics nor Keeps Getting Better nor Bionic were radio-friendly and even though I applaud her bravery and originality, that's part of the reason why she lost so much appeal with the general audience. She's back making a very pop and radio friendly record but it isn't going anywhere bc of promotion, so it all goes back to my previous post.Christina needs to grow a fucking pair and stop giving a shit about what radio wants and instead put out good music instead of putting out absolute generic music. It doesn't do her any justice. It's an insult to my intelligence if Christina camp thinks I will approve her singing shit ANYBODY else on radio could have recorded.
Is that why Adele can send a ballad straight into the top 10 and have other ballads top the charts while Christina's radio friendly song just tanks?
Is that also why Somebody Like You went to #1 for 8 weeks depite sounding like nothing that was on the radio at the time of its release?
Is that also why fun. managed to also score big hits with rock songs when radio was all pop-RnB at the time they released We Are Young?
And is that also why Ellie Goulding's Lights, an indie song, became one of the biggest hits this year?
After giving Lotus a solid listen, Bionic is still vastly superior. No idea why it tanked to be honest. Lotus will bomb because the other 932542 albums released this year by the same producer/crew are taking up the chart space and RCA is full of nasty fuckers that use their teeth too much when blowing you. That's all.
Taylor Swift, 19 year old beautiful girl that talks about breakup and releases pop-ish country songs (yeah POP-ish, I don't think that's real country). She's as comercial as you can be, I think you're misinterpreting my point, I don't mean to say that everything needs to sound like Britney's technopop in order to be successful, the term "radio-friendly" is a lot wider than that, its simply about a record that is easy for the general audience to digest, whether it is technopop or not. And Taylor Swift is as easy as it comes! A 19 year old girl talking about breakup??? The teenager girls are eating that up!!! Plus she's part of the new teen craze along with Justin, Selena, etc...That being said, let me know where she's gonna be in 4 or 5 years.
And Adele I already told you.
You really want Christina to make a "different" sound that stands out from everything that is being played on the radio? SHE ALREADY DID. It's called Back To Basic and Bionic. And I love those records, but I as already said, the fact that she changes her sound so much record from record means she alienates a big part of the audience everytime and it doesn't really give her a musical identity; she does have a trademark sound in her VOICE but after everything she has experimented with, a "Christina Aguilera song" can be pretty much anything and that can be a good and a bad thing. Right now I think only her hardcore fans (like me) are the ones who keep following her. So again, promotion is the key now, if nobody else but her hardcore fans know and care about a new record, that reflects on sales and everything else.
If your point about promotion were true, Bionic would have been a success. It wasn't. It was a disaster and she promoted the hell out of that album prior to its release (Oprah and what not). Promotion isn't the biggest problem here. Good music will eventually promote itself. Christina has severely lowered her standards. It doesn't matter if you promote the hell out of shit. If it isn't what is expected of you nobody will care. If it is good music it will eventually turn around and end up drawing attention . Take note of the quote on Lights, which managed to climb all the way up to #2. Where was the promotion? It slowly found its way to being a hit.In the United States, "Lights" was a sleeper hit, spending one year and three months on the Billboard Hot 100 before finally reaching number two on the chart in August 2012, after being released in May 2011. The song was certified triple platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), with sales of over three million downloads in the United States.
And, brand new artists which successfully charted this year and took charge the Hot 100 for 23 consecutive weeks this year. So yes for 23 weeks (that's over 5 months) you had brand new artists who came out with little to no promotion commanding radio all of a sudden.
Take note I always say promotion isn't the biggest problem. I acknowledge the fact that it is important, but you need to have good stuff to promote. Lately, Christina doesn't. Her new releases don't do her any justice because she attempts to record stuff which is basically already out there.
Good stuff + promotion = Back To Basics is a major hit.
Bad stuff + promotion = Bionic.
Bad stuff + no promotion = Lotus.
Bad stuff + promotion for Lotus = Bionic 2.0
When what fans really want and deserve is Back to Basics 2.0.
Yes, is not all about promotion. Is about good music as well, but both go hand in hand specially if you take 2 or 3 years between albums (people forget reaaaally fast that's why Sh1thanna is cashing in on her moment releasing one album after the other).
.Take note I always say promotion isn't the biggest problem. I acknowledge the fact that it is important, but you need to have good stuff to promote. Lately, Christina doesn't. Her new releases don't do her any justice because she attempts to record stuff which is basically already out there
I agree with what you say about promotion here, but I disagree with your thoughts about Xtina's music. Lotus has the potential to be a hit in every sense of the word, songs like Just A Fool (that is climbing the itunes chart as we speak without promotion), Around The World, Sing For Me, Circles, Best of Me, Lotus Intro, Red Hot Kinda Love and even Your Body have HIT written all over them.
Hmm I think the Back to Basics jazzy kinda sound is what suits her voice the most, but I don't know if I'm prepared for another record like that right now. I love pop music, and I love when she makes pop music, GOOD POP, e.g. Stripped.When what fans really want and deserve is Back to Basics 2.0.
On the left side of the equation, you should all Perez Hilton's Hate Campaign (which included completely unfounded Gaga comparisons) and Christina Aguilera being out of the public eye for quite some time (her own choice to take a break)
I don't think any of these is the most important contributor but I think they all contributed
Not to mention, America seems to freak out when Christina does anything overtly sexual i,e Dirrty or NMT. Which is weird because Rihanna has a song about S&M.
It irks me to no end when people say oh Bionic was jumping onto a trend. She's said after B2B that her fourth album was going to be in a completely different direction, an electronica sort of direction way before Gaga became so huge.
Like it makes no sense, if she wanted to copy Gaga whose stuff was mainstream stuff by RedOne, why would she go to relatively underground acts like Ladytron or Peaches or the then relatively unknown Sia. Furthermore, the good majority of the songs on Bionic were ballads. How many ballads did Gaga have on the Fame?
I also think her label made her do a lot more mainstream stuff and fucked it up. Just look at Ladytron's quote on Bionic's wiki page.
Given the reviews, I think Your Body had great potential. Of course some people didnt like it but they're in the minority I think. Promotion could have made this song blow up which in turn could have helped the album a lot.
@ not knowing who Ellie is. God, if you want anything remotely decent these days you have to listen to British artists. America is total shit at the moment.
'Lotus' is pretty damn good IMO. I don't care for the production on some of the songs and some of the lyrics are a little amateur but I think I enjoy just about every song.
'Light Up the Sky', 'Best of Me', 'Make the World Move', 'Just a Fool', 'Cease Fire' and title track are some of my favorites already.
and to think Christina actually sang at Perez's birthday once. What a douche. All that backstabbing, not surprised even Gaga got tired of him
Your Body got to the final round! this is crazy! you get that promo grrl
Just saw this video...I absolutely love it!
AfterElton's Louis Virtel once described Christina as "artistry-deaf" and I think that perfectly sums up why she hasn't had a hit song in a decade. She has no musical identity, she doesn't know what's hot at the moment, she has no idea what audiences want to hear, she makes no attempt to appeal to listeners... She's ultimately clueless. That's why she's wandering around the "Your Body" video dressed as a gourd-shaped Peggy Bundy, singing cartoonishly hypersexual pop drivel -- because she thinks she's "with it" when in fact she's pathetically out of touch.
^ kind of assuming she gives a shit about whats "hot" at the moment.
just fyi, a decade is 10 years and Back To Basics was less than 10 years ago hun.
Yes, I'm aware of when the critically-derided, hit-free Back to Basics was released.
Ain't No Other Man Top Ten in 17 countries this includes major markets like the UK, US, Australia
Hurt Top Ten in 12 countries Ten Twenty in 5 Countries. Third on Germany's 2007 year end chart
Candyman Top Ten in 5 countries Top Twenty in Ten Countries. Eighth on Australia's 2007 year end chart
Accompanying tour grossed $90 million and had to be stopped early due to pregnancy.
Okay whatever you say J-23
I'll let you google reviews for Back To Basics yourself. Stay pressed bitch.
all this talk about Back To Basics is making me nostalgic.
*plays "On Our Way"*
that don't mean that I won't need a frieeeeeeeeend
Just watch Xtina get interviewed on Dateline. Its funny, I used to think she was a pretentious bitch, but she actually seems quite lovely.