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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    Quote Originally Posted by HappySmiles View Post
    I read that Bionic only sold 200K copies worldwide (111K coming from the US alone) That is sad...

    Anyways, Christina Aguilera confirmed that "You Lost Me" is the 2nd single. The song wont go anywhere but at least she is finishing this era with class. After that flops, I dont see Aguilera pushing any more singles off this album. The album really has no hits
    It was confirmed but a RCA employee who works for CA.com said it's not a single

    mess of a label.

    Personally her album is nothing new or risky.... people are not interested her. plain and simple

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    It's amazing how much "coverage" the sale of her album is getting though. Granted it's her "comeback", seems to me people are either loving her "flop" or are actually waiting for something good to come out. I don't think 200k after less than a month is that terrible though. I know Kylie Minogue was/is not as big as Christina globally, but the gap between "Body Language" & "X" was also 4 years. "X" now that's a massive flop having only sold 1 Million worldwide. I hope she does release "You Lost Me" as the 2nd single, it'll easily top the Adult Contemporary Charts and it's a very refreshing single compared to what's currently out there.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    Christina's Back To Basics sold around 350K in its first week in the US.

    Today, Bionic sells 200K copies worldwide. That is a major flop

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    I agree about "Woohoo"...it's a collabo with Nicki Minaj, who is about the hottest thing out right now...That song should be all over the charts!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HollaDolla View Post
    I actually disagree. She didn't promote the album heavily at all. Prior to the album's release she performed three times, One of which wasn't even her lead single. Most of an albums first week sales are made on the release day and to get people to want an album you have to convince them that the music is GOOD not just show up on magazine covers.
    Now don't get me wrong, Christina is one of my top 3 artists but if you wanna sell records you have to create momentum for it. Which is my main concern for "Woohoo". It was released one month ago and has been performed in full ZERO times, with no music video or other promo. This upsets me because I think Woohoo would go over well not only with Christina Fans but everyone looking to party.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    Yikes, just read the album dropped from #1 to #29 in the UK. Possibly the biggest drop in UK album chart history?

    Smh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_taboo View Post
    I agree about "Woohoo"...it's a collabo with Nicki Minaj, who is about the hottest thing out right now...That song should be all over the charts!!
    Radio wont play that song because of its message. She also cant perform it anywhere. Even MTV censored her performance of it. Its a flop waiting to happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsonite View Post
    Yikes, just read the album dropped from #1 to #29 in the UK. Possibly the biggest drop in UK album chart history?

    Smh.
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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    I saw the cd for sale at target for $4.99. Not a good sign.

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    Not a Christina fan. I got sort of interested when it was announced that she was collaborating with some of the artists that I like...so I dowloanded her album. I'm on board with Elastic Love. I think that it should be a single. In fact I think it should have been the first single if she was really serious about giving the fans a different sound like she was blabbing about for years. Not really original but it sounds interesting, It's deffinitely an MIA track and the beats could easily be on Peaches next album. A sound that is new to most Christina fans and a sound that may get the pitchfork crowd a little interested.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    Quote Originally Posted by HappySmiles View Post
    Radio wont play that song because of its message. She also cant perform it anywhere. Even MTV censored her performance of it. Its a flop waiting to happen
    Which is strange considering Britney just had a song about a threesome earlier this year/late last year.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    I hate boys is the international single & You lost me radio remix is for US

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    That's true!

    Quote Originally Posted by HappySmiles View Post
    Radio wont play that song because of its message. She also cant perform it anywhere. Even MTV censored her performance of it. Its a flop waiting to happen

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    ^I have to agree. No one can touch Christina when it comes to vocals (well...maybe Leona). She shines the best on her ballads.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    Turns out her team has remixed You Lost me for the radio, I hate it. It doesn't sound as dark as it originally was. I also heard that I Hate Boys may be the international single. She (or RCA) needs to get their act together.

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    ^^ Agreed. The new 'YLM' edit is TERRIBLE. This era is such a mess lmao.

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    Its almost like a game of "Lets do the worst things possible". Sadly she seems largely to blame. Her taste level is really bad. She very in control of horrendous bionic looks and she chose to put her album on hold for this movie. which i cant even believe they made this movie. This is not the time for a chick flick about a singer doing a movie playing a singer/performer. It's all about buddy comedies and big blockbusters with megan fox and kristen stewart.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    The ship has sunk. Let it lie.

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    Personally, I don't consider the poor album sales to be a "flop". Her hardcore fans obviously really enjoy it and I think that was the goal for this project. Even if this entire thing ultimately becomes a career "embarrassment" ( la Madonna's Erotica), it will remain popular among her fans. As far as the big mistakes she's apparently making, I think some of you are taking it way too seriously and should remember the fact that she's said from the start that this album is "all about having fun" and experimenting. Even if it's a huge commercial failure and all the fat gay bloggers rip it to shreds, it's not going to kill her career, because she's far too talented for one album to turn people off of her.
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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    Quote Originally Posted by HaydenXXX View Post
    Personally, I don't consider the poor album sales to be a "flop". Her hardcore fans obviously really enjoy it and I think that was the goal for this project. Even if this entire thing ultimately becomes a career "embarrassment" ( la Madonna's Erotica), it will remain popular among her fans. As far as the big mistakes she's apparently making, I think some of you are taking it way too seriously and should remember the fact that she's said from the start that this album is "all about having fun" and experimenting. Even if it's a huge commercial failure and all the fat gay bloggers rip it to shreds, it's not going to kill her career, because she's far too talented for one album to turn people off of her.
    Poor album sales = flop. She's a popstar.

    Just think of the money being sunk into this campaign. It's not that the album is even that bad (it at least has "You Lost Me," which is one of the best things she'll ever record), it's just that they doomed any chance of its success by releasing a song as ghastly as "Not Myself Tonight."

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    Quote Originally Posted by robber View Post
    Poor album sales = flop.
    Not everyone measures the credibility/importance of an album by its commercial success.

    Someone said earlier in this thread that she's not going to make new fans with this album - but I actually have a few friends who are huge electronic fans (who detest modern pop) and have bought this album, because it's such a refreshing break from what's going on in music at the moment. In my opinion, that is far more important than statistics or mainstream approval.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaydenXXX View Post
    Not everyone measures the credibility/importance of an album by its commercial success. In my opinion, that is far more important than statistics or mainstream approval.
    Well, statistics and commercial success may not be important to some people, but it's important to her record company. If she's not selling, she'll be one more album away from getting dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaydenXXX View Post
    Not everyone measures the credibility/importance of an album by its commercial success.
    I'm not going to disagree with you, but we're talking about Christina Aguilera, not the World/Inferno Friendship Society. Pop is a different beast. Numbers matter.

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    I agree..the radio mix of YLM is disgusting WTFFFF are they doing?!!!!!!!!!! They ruined a very powerful/emotional song. AND "I Hate Boys"?? as the international single? I've heard it a few times on the radio this morning here in Sydney and it's WEAK!!! (one of my least faves on the album). Hell even "My Girls" would've been more infectious or "Vanity".

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    so, ive been listening to bionic for a while now, and i feel like throwing in my impressions. forgive me for not having waded through to entire thread so far.

    the bad: she always seems one step behind (first she was copying p!nk, then amy, now gaga), there is too much filler and too many mawkish ballads, she is helplessly self-centered (the way she makes her daughter say how mommy is the best), and she generally tries way too hard.
    the good: despite her copycat tendencies, aguilera certainly has personality. and her vulgar way is part of that, and im kinda enjoying it. there are some nice tracks, and i like her choice of collaborators. needless to mention her vocal talent.

    so, i think bionic is a typical xtina album, a mixed bag with the same strength and weaknesses as her previous two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelFromAbove View Post
    Well, statistics and commercial success may not be important to some people, but it's important to her record company. If she's not selling, she'll be one more album away from getting dropped.
    That's a bit drastic, don't you think? Let's be honest, Christina has two things that her contemporaries lack: The ability to actually sing AND to incorporate that talent into pop music. That alone will save her from such an extreme fate.

    Quote Originally Posted by robber View Post
    I'm not going to disagree with you, but we're talking about Christina Aguilera, not the World/Inferno Friendship Society. Pop is a different beast. Numbers matter.
    Ahaahaa, I get it. I was just saying her fans don't care about the numbers. Sadly, she's reached a level of fame where something like this album could be considered by some to be a career low, which is slightly depressing & ridiculous, because it's NOT a horrible album. Of course, not every song is great - but her courage to go against the norm and experiment with different sounds makes up for "radio hits" in my opinion. Hopefully, the limited/one-dimensional views of the music business (and mainstream music fans) won't deter her from taking such chances again in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaydenXXX View Post
    That's a bit drastic, don't you think? Let's be honest, Christina has two things that her contemporaries lack: The ability to actually sing AND to incorporate that talent into pop music. That alone will save her from such an extreme fate.
    That's great. However, this is the entertainment business...it's about selling. Talent matters very little in the business. Christina has four octaves and a powerhouse voice? Who cares? She's not making money, especially as a pop act. That's not my perspective, but that's how her label will view her.

    Many other pop acts can sing as well; they may not be able to sing as well as Christina, but there are others who can sing. I was being a bit drastic when I said that she will get dropped, but in today's unstable market where the value of music has dropped and artists have less value, Bionic would put a major dent in her career.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    Even if Christina's album does not make a turn around in sales I doubt that this will effect her in the future. She has established herself after three(four if you count her spanish album) successful albums. She will not be the first nor the last established artist to have an album with weak sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelFromAbove View Post
    That's great. However, this is the entertainment business...it's about selling. Talent matters very little in the business. Christina has four octaves and a powerhouse voice? Who cares? She's not making money, especially as a pop act. That's not my perspective, but that's how her label will view her.
    Precisely. When it comes down to it, Christina hasn't expanded beyond her roots -- she's still a bubblegum pop princess who values style over substance. If her talent is so amazing, why does she continually rely on schtick rather than, oh I don't know, her musical abilities?

    It's because she'll always be an act, not an artist. I don't care how many octaves she can sing, she simply doesn't have the chops to make it as a legitimate performer.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    Everytime I listened to I Hate Boys, I think of that target commercial.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    haha Perez just posted a link to this...thought it was pretty funny


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anton98 View Post
    Everytime I listened to I Hate Boys, I think of that target commercial.
    Yeah, because it sounds exactly like Keeps Gettin' Better.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    ok I guess the picture I tried to post didn't work 2 posts up

    here's the picture that Perez linked to on twitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-23 View Post
    Precisely. When it comes down to it, Christina hasn't expanded beyond her roots -- she's still a bubblegum pop princess who values style over substance. If her talent is so amazing, why does she continually rely on schtick rather than, oh I don't know, her musical abilities?

    It's because she'll always be an act, not an artist. I don't care how many octaves she can sing, she simply doesn't have the chops to make it as a legitimate performer.
    LMFAO a "bubblegum pop princess"?? PURE IGNORANCE. Is that why she WAS CHOSEN to do various tributes IN DIFFERENT MUSIC GENRES because she "doesn't have the chops"????? Is this is also why she has COLLABORATED with artist KNOWN for certain type of genres? Should I list all of those TRIBUTES & COLLABORATIONS or will you just google them yourself? She was a "bubblegum pop princess" but since STRIPPED she has showed the world that she's not and should not be put in the same league as Britney or Chestica Simpson.

    BIONIC is about her having fun, if you don't like her then that's fine. But to dismiss her for not having "the chops to make it as a legitimate performer" IS PURE RUBBISH!

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRedQueen View Post
    Her vocals are overrated. She just yells. She has no melody to her voice. It's all power with no grace.
    Exactly. It doesn't matter how many notes you can hit if there's absolutely no hint of emotion behind them. Christina is a nasty little shrew and it's evident in her harsh, obnoxious, shrieky voice.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    LOOL

    You can diss, you can dislike, but sayin she's overrated is a lil bit too much in my opinion.

    I'v seen her live, and she's very good.

    She just sucks at promoting records and choosing lead songs.

    Lately she has been doin nothin but messin things up. This album is complete chaos she needs to stop for a while and come back with somethin solid

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    Quote Originally Posted by huntneo View Post
    LOL! You guys are really funny.

    thanks for the giggles...
    Sorry, I just prefer actual artists. Christina, Justin Bieber, the Jonas Brothers, et al., don't do it for me.

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    ^^..you just keep bringing in the laughs with those stupid comments LMFAO. To even put Christina next to those "artists" hahahaha you really are funny!

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    ^You may not like Christina but to link her with the likes of Justin Beiber and the Jonas Bros is not only incredibly dumb but also incredibly disrespectful. I laugh at the notion that she sings without emotion? Have you not listened to 'You Lost Me', 'I'm Ok', 'Beautiful', 'Loving Me 4 Me'....I can on and on.

    You don't have to like people but at least have the decency to appreciate true talent.

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    I laugh at the notion that she sings without emotion? Have you not listened to 'You Lost Me', 'I'm Ok', 'Beautiful', 'Loving Me 4 Me'....I can on and on.
    If people have watched her performance of "I'm OK" from Storytellers and still continue to claim she's "all voice and no emotion", those people either are completely deaf or don't know the meaning of emotion.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    Look at these videos and then tell me Christina Aguilera aint a bad bitch?!


    Oh Mother


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    Lift Me Up


    What A Girl Wants

    There's plenty more on Youtube. Now, of course she's had some off performances (show me a singer who hasn't) but very few can do with the girl can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaydenXXX View Post
    If people have watched her performance of "I'm OK" from Storytellers and still continue to claim she's "all voice and no emotion", those people either are completely deaf or don't know the meaning of emotion.
    Lol! I love that "I'm OK" video, where she's clearly exploiting her "domestic abuse" situation in order to turn a profit. Boo hoo, Christina. Pretty odd that, for an autobiographical song, she couldn't even write it herself. Hmm...

    And nope, I don't detect a whiff of emotion in her voice. She sings that little tune the same way that she sings her brilliant lyrics about her vag tasting like assorted baked goods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anton98 View Post
    Everytime I listened to I Hate Boys, I think of that target commercial.
    It's also a ripoff of "Boys Boys Boys" by Gaga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-23 View Post
    Lol! I love that "I'm OK" video, where she's clearly exploiting her "domestic abuse" situation in order to turn a profit. Boo hoo, Christina. Pretty odd that, for an autobiographical song, she couldn't even write it herself. Hmm...
    She actually co-wrote it with Linda Perry. The story goes that, during their first few meetings, Linda wanted Christina to open up more on the album, so she put her in the booth, and Christina sang the song in only one or two takes. While singing, she was emotional and started to cry (you can actually hear her voice cracking on the track). I don't think anyone is going to call Christina a profound songwriter anytime soon (she's had alot of help from different people throughout her career); but she does bring honesty and emotion to the songs to which she needs to bring them. That, to me, is what a real artist does.

    ....and "exploiting her situation in order to turn profit"?? What the hell? Domestic violence (especially witnessing it as a child) has a huge affect on you as a person, and she expressed that personal experience in a song (uhhhh, that's not unheard of, after all). I'm sure there are plenty of people who are thankful to her for being so honest because hearing someone else's account and knowing they're not alone in that experience helps them heal themselves. It wasn't a single, there was no video, and the first time she even performed it for people was at the Storytellers concert (probably because the song has a very heavy backstory and that's pretty much what that specific show is all about) - so I don't see how she's exploited anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by J-23 View Post
    And nope, I don't detect a whiff of emotion in her voice. She sings that little tune the same way that she sings her brilliant lyrics about her vag tasting like assorted baked goods.
    Haha, wow....I seriously don't know what to say to this.

    I actually think alot of the bashers in this thread would be singing a completely different story if she'd decided to do an album of all ballads, because it's clear those are the songs where she blows pretty much everyone away. But because she took her "pop princess" image from years ago and did a modern twist on it by doing more upbeat, fun, silly songs, people consider it forced or insincere, which is totally missing the point of the album.

    Also, nobody ever said she had a great management team behind her. Maybe the choices of singles to put out have been wrong ones and maybe her record company is making mistake after mistake promoting this project - but that's happened throughout the history of music. You can't really blame the artist or say that they're the one fucking it up, because their hands are really tied in that situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntneo View Post
    Whoa...you are so wrong for that.

    I know you don't like Christina, but you're going too far.
    Forgive him. He's deaf.
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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    Yet more examples of this woman's amazing artistry and talent.









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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    This album is flopping hardcore everywhere. To be honest I've never been underwhelmed with her studio albums like this. I'm so occupied with other better releases these days i.e Kylie's Aphrodite, Sarah's Laws of Illusion, Sia's We Are Born, Janelle's ArchAndroid that I don't feel like listening to Bionic... bad timing to release a weak album.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    What is the music world coming to when Ke$sha outsells Christina in first week sales. Bionic sold like 40,000 in the US this week. Drake opened with 400,000+ and Eminem is on track for 700,000+. What the fuck!? Where are her fans? smh
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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    Christina needs a MAJOR image overhaul. The tacky bleached hair and red lipstick is done and dead. And her attempt at electro music was just boring. Its just to tame to be interesting.

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    Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

    Artists like Xtina and Beyonce have a singing style that relies on too much melisma and warbling that can be really off-putting to some people. Some people call this the ability to "sing", but it's such an extreme way of using one's voice. It's like she's been given a super-power she doesn't quite know how to control. I wouldn't exactly put on one of her songs to relax to, let's just put it that way. Christina herself has referenced this before Bionic was released by stating that she was working with Ladytron to 'soften' her voice. I compare her voice to that of Whitney Houston in her prime, but she exhibited MUCH better control over her voice, whereas Xtina is still so very raw. It's a little late in her career for her to still be coming off as sort of underdeveloped. She needs to find her sound/style and stick with it, instead of dabbling in so many different persona's and music styles she has no concept of. I appreciate her trying to branch out, but chica needs some consistancy....stat!

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    New hair color , on the set of you lost me video


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    Is it the photo or does she look like she has put on a little weight in the face?

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