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    Why straight men have sex in prison

    And still considering themselves as straight (NOT). I would love to see homophobic getting raped in prison haha jking


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    Got Spoons?
    "Do that to me one more time, once is never enough with a man like you!"

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    Good God, had I seen that episode my life would have turned out totally different.
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    Hey look, it's LaGuerta from Dexter!

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    Hey look, it's Dennis Duffy from 30 Rock!
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    o____o; Ouch.....he's lucky its not a spork.

    Underneath everything I guess I always dreamed I would be the one to take you away from all this wasted pain...

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    o____o; Ouch.....he's lucky its not a spork.
    i wouldn't mind seeing someone get ladle'd

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    Wellcum in th' Alabama Liiimestone Correcsianal Fasillitee!



    (The whole thing is on youtube).



    (also more on this on youtube).

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    Oh Lord @ the spoon scene.

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    Re: Why straight men have sex in prison

    Truth be told, it's not unusual for straight men to become exclusively homosexual (both active and passive) in a prison or in any other situation in which extended contact with females is absent (such as in the army or aboard a navy ship or submarine, etc) but will return to being exclusively heterosexual again when removed from that situation and contact with females is once again present.

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    So he is scooping shit with a spoon from shit hole like he would from icecream container. for what? to eat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    Truth be told, it's not unusual for straight men to become exclusively homosexual (both active and passive) in a prison or in any other situation in which extended contact with females is absent (such as in the army or aboard a navy ship or submarine, etc) but will return to being exclusively heterosexual again when removed from that situation and contact with females is once again present.
    If I remember correctly, it is called "institutionalized homosexuality."

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    Oh, I remember those episodes of OZ. I think my fondest memory of the series was the time where Adebisi (sp??) raped the Italian guy.

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    Re: Why straight men have sex in prison

    well i saw a documental about "prison life" and they see them as females... when you in prison and you a bitch then you a bitch you are not a man! but a female.

    And they do not consider themselves as homosexuals :S wich is weird :P

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    Well I guess prison is like paradise for gays LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by burst View Post
    well i saw a documental about "prison life" and they see them as females... when you in prison and you a bitch then you a bitch you are not a man! but a female.

    And they do not consider themselves as homosexuals :S wich is weird :P
    It's just another way to rationalize a want to have sex with men.

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    Re: Why straight men have sex in prison

    I watched a huge documentary on prison sex and relationships on youtube.

    Even the straightest guy could go gay in prison. It's called situational sexuality, and makes me think that homosexuality isn't always genetic. It's very interesting, but sadly a lot of it begins with rape though some of the men actually have relationships.

    I think a lot of them continue to be with men when/if they leave prison.

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    Why is he sticking a spoon up his ass? :-/

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    ^I never understood that but i fear prison. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    Even the straightest guy could go gay in prison. It's called situational sexuality, and makes me think that homosexuality isn't always genetic. It's very interesting, but sadly a lot of it begins with rape though some of the men actually have relationships.
    Sex in prison is a very complicated topic. No one "goes gay" in prison (and yes, I know this from personal experience) - Sexuality isn't a black or white, is or isn't kind of thing. It's a continuum - from "never ever would do it with a man" on one end - to "never ever do it with a woman" on the other. Many men fall somewhere more towards the middle than they would like to admit, even to themselves. Prison gives them "permission" to walk on the wild side (although many drugs, like Meth, do the same kind of thing). It releases the psychological and emotional inhibitions.

    I have friends who are completely straight - and even doing natural life, wouldn't screw around with another man. That doesn't mean they hate gays, it just means that gay sex isn't their thing - and they would rather masturbate to pictures of women than participate in gay sex. Interestingly, completely straight men tend to "respect" the gays in prison more than men who are more ambiguous about their sexuality.

    Prison is a place of the illusion of hyper-masculinity - and in most places, that means that overt homosexual behavior isn't condoned. You can't just go off in a closet and suck some guy off without getting a bad rap. Sooner or later everyone will find out. That said, there is a lot of, what in prison is called "horseplay" (wrestling, ass-grabbing, etc.) that is very homoerotic in nature. While the initiators of that behavior think of themselves as "straight", the reality tends to be more than they fall towards the middle of the continuum I mentioned previously. For many, the sub-conscious anxiety of not being able to deal with their sexual feelings towards the same sex is at the root of their criminality, especially in terms of drug use - and - in terms of the recidivism levels being so high.

    Lastly, rape is never about sex - it's about power and control. People do get raped in prison, but mostly (not always, but mostly) because they end up making bad decisions and owing money, or because someone is trying to humiliate them because of their charges (sex abuse, pedophilia, etc. ).

    If someone has questions about prison life - I have 15.75 years experience and I'm happy to speak honestly about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dscottsw View Post
    Sex in prison is a very complicated topic. No one "goes gay" in prison (and yes, I know this from personal experience) - Sexuality isn't a black or white, is or isn't kind of thing. It's a continuum - from "never ever would do it with a man" on one end - to "never ever do it with a woman" on the other. Many men fall somewhere more towards the middle than they would like to admit, even to themselves. Prison gives them "permission" to walk on the wild side (although many drugs, like Meth, do the same kind of thing). It releases the psychological and emotional inhibitions.

    I have friends who are completely straight - and even doing natural life, wouldn't screw around with another man. That doesn't mean they hate gays, it just means that gay sex isn't their thing - and they would rather masturbate to pictures of women than participate in gay sex. Interestingly, completely straight men tend to "respect" the gays in prison more than men who are more ambiguous about their sexuality.

    Prison is a place of the illusion of hyper-masculinity - and in most places, that means that overt homosexual behavior isn't condoned. You can't just go off in a closet and suck some guy off without getting a bad rap. Sooner or later everyone will find out. That said, there is a lot of, what in prison is called "horseplay" (wrestling, ass-grabbing, etc.) that is very homoerotic in nature. While the initiators of that behavior think of themselves as "straight", the reality tends to be more than they fall towards the middle of the continuum I mentioned previously. For many, the sub-conscious anxiety of not being able to deal with their sexual feelings towards the same sex is at the root of their criminality, especially in terms of drug use - and - in terms of the recidivism levels being so high.

    Lastly, rape is never about sex - it's about power and control. People do get raped in prison, but mostly (not always, but mostly) because they end up making bad decisions and owing money, or because someone is trying to humiliate them because of their charges (sex abuse, pedophilia, etc. ).

    If someone has questions about prison life - I have 15.75 years experience and I'm happy to speak honestly about it.
    Interesting. Well first question, why did you go to prison?

    Did guys in prison know you were gay right away and did you have sex with a lot of guys there?

    Second, the thing I said about rape was because of the documentary I watched on youtube. Yeah I understand the rape thing is about control but the person in this particular story would try to get guys to trust him and then somehow screw something up where he had an excuse to rape them or "turn them out". After he did that they'd usually become friends again and he'd take them under their wing and form some kind of relationship with them and they'd continue having sex.


    I also agree that most people fall on a spectrum between gay and straight. I've always believed that and it's very interesting and hot because it always means that many straight guys are curious and willing to have sex with a guy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Horschallen View Post
    If I remember correctly, it is called "institutionalized homosexuality."
    ITS CALLED LIFE lol

    so much straight focused crap on television and in the media, and so much homophobia, thats "institutionalized" as well.

    i am 100% sure there would be more "gay" people if it was so-called "socially prevalent" or "normal".

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    Quote Originally Posted by dscottsw View Post
    Lastly, rape is never about sex - it's about power and control.
    My anthropology professor viewed that as a longstanding myth. He pointed out that the vast majority of female rape occurs when the victim is in their reproductive peak: their early 20's. Rape against women is very largely confined to those who are younger. If it was truly about "power and control" you'd expect there to be a more distributed spread in the data. He also said that in many cases the assailant is someone who has had difficulties in attracting women. It all hints at something deeper, more evolutionary in nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amyleeisjesus View Post
    My anthropology professor viewed that as a longstanding myth. He pointed out that the vast majority of female rape occurs when the victim is in their reproductive peak: their early 20's. Rape against women is very largely confined to those who are younger. If it was truly about "power and control" you'd expect there to be a more distributed spread in the data. He also said that in many cases the assailant is someone who has had difficulties in attracting women. It all hints at something deeper, more evolutionary in nature.
    I agree. You never hear of the old, disgusting crack head getting raped. Because nobody wants their ass. It's usually the fresh faced, younger guys who end up getting raped.

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    I tend to agree with the experienced guy like dscottsw rather than with a no experience professor.

    Professor mean nothing if you don't have experience.

    It is common knowledge that rape is about power. Just imagine if a person don't want to have sex with you, why do you want to force it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    Interesting. Well first question, why did you go to prison?
    Embezzlement - I stole a lot of money from my employer. But I have been a bit of a career embezzler and so my most recent set was my 4th time over a 30 year period. I've been in prison in 3 states and perhaps a total of eight different major institutions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    Did guys in prison know you were gay right away and did you have sex with a lot of guys there?
    The first two times I was open about being gay...that doesn't mean I was a flaming queer, running around with cute tops and lipstick. Not my style. I'm a regular guy who also happens to be gay. Both of those times I had quite a bit of sex - but more because I could be friends with someone without a big stigma attached. When I was in prison in the 80's, there was actually a group: the Sexual Minorities Prisoner's Caucus (SMPC) and for a while, I was the "president" - and no one, and I mean no one, would have dared refer to me as "madam President" - nor, would anyone have referred to me as a "girl." I still have the going-away card I got when I left the institution, from the fellas...

    Two funny stories - the only people who treated all the gays like shit, myself included, were the Christians. I happen to play the piano fairly well and played for a number of the church services, and it annoyed the Christians greatly that I was openly gay.

    Second funny story was that the head of the Bikers group (a fairly powerful prison group back in those days - and all very macho dudes) was a secret cross dresser, which I didn't learn until we were both out and were going out for dinner one night and he showed up in a (lovely, I might add) dress and wig.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    Second, the thing I said about rape was because of the documentary I watched on youtube. Yeah I understand the rape thing is about control but the person in this particular story would try to get guys to trust him and then somehow screw something up where he had an excuse to rape them or "turn them out". After he did that they'd usually become friends again and he'd take them under their wing and form some kind of relationship with them and they'd continue having sex.
    Yeah....makes for good TV - but that was a reciprocal relationship.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    I also agree that most people fall on a spectrum between gay and straight. I've always believed that and it's very interesting and hot because it always means that many straight guys are curious and willing to have sex with a guy.
    Yes my friend, truer words were never spoken. Just take a look at some of the videos posted in the Tube Section...."A straight guys first time...blah, blah..." It makes for good fantasy stuff for us, but someone who's really straight isn't going to be sucking off someone, no matter what money's on the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amyleeisjesus View Post
    ...Rape against women is very largely confined to those who are younger. If it was truly about "power and control" you'd expect there to be a more distributed spread in the data. He also said that in many cases the assailant is someone who has had difficulties in attracting women. It all hints at something deeper, more evolutionary in nature.
    "Rape" occurs across the age spectrum. Your anthropology professor doesn't have his facts straight. From children to women in their 90's. And yes, it is mostly, although not exclusively, women. Men outside of prison are raped too, although one doesn't hear about it so much.

    Mostly it is true that the assailant isn't very socially adept with the opposite sex, but not always. Look at Ted Bundy. And I have known some very handsome rapists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellosir View Post
    Well I guess prison is like paradise for gays LOL
    I'm going to guess not. Unless some gays like to be raped and demeaned and passed around to any random head that wants to get off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    I agree. You never hear of the old, disgusting crack head getting raped. Because nobody wants their ass. It's usually the fresh faced, younger guys who end up getting raped.
    Just because one doesn't hear about it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The fresh faced, younger guys are often also the weaker, less bright guys - who get into gambling debt, or some other kind of debt..with no means of paying it off, and end up in a sticky (excuse the pun) situation. "crack heads", BTW, often clean up very well in prison (because exercise becomes a substitute addiction for the drugs) and end up looking very buff. They might also find themselves in a tough situation, but somehow it doesn't generate the same level of sympathy as the young "fresh meat" get.

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    Oh my--

    Now there's a lot of poor misguided souls on youtube who think that's what 'spooning' is.

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    I think when a straight guy has sex in prison it really isn't because hes gay, more so a lack of choice. Also doesn't prison rape happen a lot to show power or hierarchy within the inmates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elvin1 View Post
    I'm going to guess not. Unless some gays like to be raped and demeaned and passed around to any random head that wants to get off.
    And, I'd also guess, always have to realize that if they do something which harms or disparages the arrangement that's being forced on them, they'd better watch their back or they might end up getting a shiv up their ass or something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    It is common knowledge that rape is about power. Just imagine if a person don't want to have sex with you, why do you want to force it ?
    But how is it possible to rape somebody without being aroused i.e. having an erection?

    And I also still don't understand what's going on with the SPOON.
    What's the purpose of using it that way?

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    I think when a straight guy has sex in prison it really isn't because hes gay, more so a lack of choice. Also doesn't prison rape happen a lot to show power or hierarchy within the inmates?
    Hmmm...there are some guys in prison who want you to think that. Like, "I'm only letting you suck my dick because there's no women around..." But the reality is that they'd let you suck their dick anyway.

    There are many women around even a maximum security men's prison - female officers, staff, nurses, etc., And REALLY straight guys have often found ways to exploit that. In Oregon, it got so bad that now it is a Felony for staff to have sexual relationships (or other kinds of inappropriate relationships) with inmates.

    The power/hierarchy structure of a prison doesn't need rape for anyone to understand it. It only takes a couple of days as a new guy to figure out who the "shotcallers" are. Prison rape (which is, IMHO and experience, less frequent than many people think) is about punishment and control for people who have violated some kind of inmate culture rule; i.e. gambled without the funds to pay losses, borrowed or accepted something without the means to pay it back, and in some cases, might be sex-offenders who have nothing else to offer - and are at the very bottom of the inmate totem pole.

    More than a few inmates will claim "rape" or threat of rape because they are incapable of dealing with the anxiety and nuances of prison culture. I had one cellie who claimed that someone had threatened him with rape - no such thing happened, he was a small guy who was in for molesting his daughter (everybody in prison knows everything about everybody!!) and he didn't want to pay "rent", so he claimed he was being threatened and ended up living in "honor housing" two years earlier than he would have normally been eligible for it.

    I'm not saying it doesn't happen....there's usually a backstory behind it which is more complex than "young, cute, innocent inmate...."

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    But how is it possible to rape somebody without being aroused i.e. having an erection?
    Locker room erections. Plus, as the first video showed, it's not for the pleasure of the aggressor but for the punishment of the powerless.
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    it's not for the pleasure of the aggressor
    Does that mean that rapists usually don't ejaculate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dscottsw View Post
    Hmmm...there are some guys in prison who want you to think that. Like, "I'm only letting you suck my dick because there's no women around..." But the reality is that they'd let you suck their dick anyway.

    There are many women around even a maximum security men's prison - female officers, staff, nurses, etc., And REALLY straight guys have often found ways to exploit that. In Oregon, it got so bad that now it is a Felony for staff to have sexual relationships (or other kinds of inappropriate relationships) with inmates.

    The power/hierarchy structure of a prison doesn't need rape for anyone to understand it. It only takes a couple of days as a new guy to figure out who the "shotcallers" are. Prison rape (which is, IMHO and experience, less frequent than many people think) is about punishment and control for people who have violated some kind of inmate culture rule; i.e. gambled without the funds to pay losses, borrowed or accepted something without the means to pay it back, and in some cases, might be sex-offenders who have nothing else to offer - and are at the very bottom of the inmate totem pole.

    More than a few inmates will claim "rape" or threat of rape because they are incapable of dealing with the anxiety and nuances of prison culture. I had one cellie who claimed that someone had threatened him with rape - no such thing happened, he was a small guy who was in for molesting his daughter (everybody in prison knows everything about everybody!!) and he didn't want to pay "rent", so he claimed he was being threatened and ended up living in "honor housing" two years earlier than he would have normally been eligible for it.

    I'm not saying it doesn't happen....there's usually a backstory behind it which is more complex than "young, cute, innocent inmate...."
    I don't get what you're saying. So is it for sexual relief, power or both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupperwhore View Post
    But how is it possible to rape somebody without being aroused i.e. having an erection?

    And I also still don't understand what's going on with the SPOON.
    What's the purpose of using it that way
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    ahh ha, you ask the right person ..
    Maybe he want the taste of ass hole walls ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    I don't get what you're saying. So is it for sexual relief, power or both?
    If you're speaking of prison rape - it's almost always used as a display of power, or for retribution - which is another form of power. Rape is never (OK - "never" is an absolute, so mostly never) for sexual relief.

    There are usually enough willing participants for sex in prison that one needn't take it. Although, a relatively small percentage of (at least male) inmates are willing to admit that they would enjoy a good BJ from another man. The whole thing becomes pretty covert.

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    Does that mean that rapists usually don't ejaculate?
    Watch CSI and you'll know that rapists do ejaculate - but their arousal is based on violence, domination and submission - rather than a relationship or caring. What excites a rapist (prison or otherwise) isn't the victim him/herself, but the humiliation and control over the victim - the need to feel powerful and in control, as well as a total lack of empathy for the feelings of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dscottsw View Post
    Watch CSI and you'll know that rapists do ejaculate - but their arousal is based on violence, domination and submission - rather than a relationship or caring. What excites a rapist (prison or otherwise) isn't the victim him/herself, but the humiliation and control over the victim - the need to feel powerful and in control, as well as a total lack of empathy for the feelings of others.
    So, the point is that the rapist is having sex - it really doesn't matter where the arousal comes from.
    The sexual act is dangerous and criminal, but it's still sex.

    Let's say I rent a whore to have sex with me (obviously) eventhough he doesn't really want to have sex with me (possibly).
    Does that mean our sexual activities don't really count as "sex" because the whore doesn't like it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupperwhore View Post
    Let's say I rent a whore to have sex with me (obviously) eventhough he doesn't really want to have sex with me (possibly).
    Does that mean our sexual activities don't really count as "sex" because the whore doesn't like it?
    The difference is whether or not one is forced or not. If you rent a prostitute, while perhaps the prostitute would rather be in some other line of employment (or not, assumptions aren't helpful), what they are doing is a matter of their own choice. You are not forcing them into a sexual relationship.

    Rape (prison or otherwise) is a forced, non-consensual thing - and yes, the rapist and the victim are having sex, but it's more accurately classified as an assault than a sex-act. The motive of the rapist is control and domination, not any kind of sexual gratification.

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