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    Oh please, the biggest railroad system in the world does not get updated in six decades, just like you can not turn a backward, dictator-run, half-African Southern European peninsula into a democratic, developed global powerhouse in just three decades
    Oh please yourself, Bubbles. You're just repeating a dumb stereotype you've read about somewhere. The Indian Railway is a fucking marvel of organization, managing millions of customers daily and tons of cargo. Its "updates" have been rendered as needed for the prolific variety of demands the markets place on it.

    Bonus points for "half-African." My friend's grandpa says 'those people' can't build anything over three stories tall!
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    You sounding very envious.
    I would sound envious when I talked about what the USA could become, were it not for the American themselves
    I am too pathetically individually forlorn to feel attached to any mass of people that can be called nation, much less a European nation... which, however, is the only place where "nation" makes real sense. America is an empire, and Australia a colony in the heart of Savageland.

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post

    Yes you're right. But, as far as I know, the locals were still allowed to use the railways for their own purposes. It was in the interest of the colonisers to have a happy and contented local people in the colony.

    Britain had some 'protectorates' as well as colonies where they protected the local people from aggression from adjoining tribes.
    They did not keep the people "happy", but "happy with what they were willing to grant them". And an infrastructure system whose main purpose and profit whose not intended for them, is a pretty low (in the full sense of the word) price to pay for whatever they had for well-being.
    As for the protectorates, that was the "looser but wiser" imperial system I was referring to: you do not need to spend your force and resources in stupid conquest, like the Spartans or the Mongols did, when you just can have all the profit of an effective dominion with the right diplomatic ascendant.

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post

    I'm not understanding to which two places you're referring.
    Yeah, right, you got that I was referring to TWO PLACES in a peninsula in Southern Europe, but did not get what places they are.

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    Oh please yourself, Bubbles. You're just repeating a dumb stereotype you've read about somewhere. The Indian Railway is a fucking marvel of organization, managing millions of customers daily and tons of cargo. Its "updates" have been rendered as needed for the prolific variety of demands the markets place on it.

    Bonus points for "half-African." My friend's grandpa says 'those people' can't build anything over three stories tall!
    You are putting yourself in the stereotype of all the kool sjwpermodernizing emerging powers... like that of Spain in the past decades... with the aggravating irony of it being made in the middle of a global downhill caravan.
    I expected someone to bring up the term "stereotype", but not with such zeal and interest: I will refer you to the post in which I pointed to India, along with what I said about Spain and Portugal... and while you are on it, to my abrégé of the last three hundred years of British history
    Ah! if Spaniards had not been able to build so much and even over three stories tall in the past fifteen years..!
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    Nishicinqo...get these talkers back on the picture track. Otherwise, please diect PattyPoops and cousin BellowsMore to the CE&P venue where their current postings might be more appropriate...
    This one is for funning...remember?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Yes you're right. But, as far as I know, the locals were still allowed to use the railways for their own purposes. It was in the interest of the colonisers to have a happy and contented controlled local people in the colony.
    Nothing more

    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Isn't it always pathetic that the third or fourth largest European empire, and one of the ten largest ever, but surely among the top five as far as development and lasting influence goes, should consistently be ignored?
    Which French Empire are you talking of?
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    Nothing more…
    I guess I was thinking about the English colonies. I admit I know almost nothing about Algeria, New Caledonia, French IndoChina and the other colonies.

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    Which French Empire are you talking of?
    "THE" French Empire This one
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    Because of the Indian railroad thing? It is as simplistic and ignorant to reduce it all to one extreme like the other, and it would be as stupid to believe that I said that they are running on steam as much as saying it: the point is that the larger a system (railroad or whatever) the heavier the burden of update..: in ten years a slick brand new system is already old, and from fifteen to twenty on it is already a wreck, in Spain, India or anywhere. Plus if you ALWAYS have an established large system, you will SURELY find that there are lines that become less profitable, when at all, or simply that can't be kept up with the pace of constant modernization: in India, in Spain, like elsewhere.

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    Is that one (or two) long turd(s) hanging down from his back?

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    Is that one (or two) long turd(s) hanging down from his back?
    Granted it's not very well drawn, but surely you're familiar with mane and tail as part of a horse's physical features.


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    Granted it's not very well drawn, but surely you're familiar with mane and tail as part of a horse's physical features.
    The birthday cone and the eyeglass frame, and the pokemon ears are part of the physical features of a horse too...

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    The birthday cone and the eyeglass frame, and the pokemon ears are part of the physical features of a horse too...
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    (My upper assets could probably hide in her cleavage.)
    When can I schedule my 'correction' session.???

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    Because of the Indian railroad thing? It is as simplistic and ignorant to reduce it all to one extreme like the other, and it would be as stupid to believe that I said that they are running on steam as much as saying it: the point is that the larger a system (railroad or whatever) the heavier the burden of update..: in ten years a slick brand new system is already old, and from fifteen to twenty on it is already a wreck, in Spain, India or anywhere. Plus if you ALWAYS have an established large system, you will SURELY find that there are lines that become less profitable, when at all, or simply that can't be kept up with the pace of constant modernization: in India, in Spain, like elsewhere.
    Some old things are exceptionally functional and the best iteration for a market.

    It's weird to argue that new versions of things are automatically better, and everything old is automatically broken or backward.
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    Some old things are exceptionally functional and the best iteration for a market.

    It's weird to argue that new versions of things are automatically better, and everything old is automatically broken or backward.
    Let's see if we can get this short and clear. The point was not that India has a particularly backward railroad system: this all started when talking about what the British "left", and in the late 1940s the system could not be in its best shape, when even Britain itself was not. Thence, the double problem of keeping up to date a very extensive system that was already straining during the Empire era, and doing it while making it dependant of a newly established and, most important, very heterogeneous plurinational, very extensive, state. That was it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltanspawn View Post
    Some old things are exceptionally functional and the best iteration for a market.

    It's weird to argue that new versions of things are automatically better, and everything old is automatically broken or backward.
    Oh, and as for the argument itself, let's see if you would actuallly defend that a 1960s or 1930s IBM punch-card machine is better than a 2012 one, or steam trains better than a computerized railroad system. You sem to be switching from defending the modernization of India to the praise of the older, comparatively backward legacy left by the British, while all I was is not that India's railroad has been consistently backward ever since they took it over from British hands, but simply that what the British left was a dinosaur very hard to deal with. You do not seem to get that my point is not attacking the Indian, not even the British, but to SIMPLY SHOW that technical heritages become an even bigger burden than more purely monumental ones, like stone gates and palaces.

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    LOL That's EXACTLY what I look like when I'm pissed off. I have references!!!
    You mean to say that you are not actually a borg, but a mere, common human

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    You mean to say that you are not actually a borg, but a mere, common human
    THIS is a mere, common human to you???

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    THIS is a mere, common human to you???

    "Pissed off", you said: yes.

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    oh dear,



    it would appear Carlosito is having a bit of a bad day.

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    That was somewhat tasteless and tactless JP.

    Why not try again?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty View Post
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    it would appear Carlosito is having a bit of a bad day.
    What?! No. Just my normal mood. The only abnormality is that I have been intermitently coughing my lungs outfor a couple of days, but it's ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Let's see if we can get this short and clear. The point was not that India has a particularly backward railroad system: this all started when talking about what the British "left", and in the late 1940s the system could not be in its best shape, when even Britain itself was not. Thence, the double problem of keeping up to date a very extensive system that was already straining during the Empire era, and doing it while making it dependant of a newly established and, most important, very heterogeneous plurinational, very extensive, state. That was it.
    I'm impressed that your expertise extends to the state of the Indian Railway post-Independence. It would be interesting to hear you post more of your observations about the specifics the Indian rail system faced that made it backward and broken in that period. Was it not transporting people? Did it not move cargo? Did it not offer services to a variety of customers? Was it half-African? I DO think it's fair to say Indians are half-African.


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    Oh, and as for the argument itself, let's see if you would actuallly defend that a 1960s or 1930s IBM punch-card machine is better than a 2012 one, or steam trains better than a computerized railroad system. You sem to be switching from defending the modernization of India to the praise of the older, comparatively backward legacy left by the British, while all I was is not that India's railroad has been consistently backward ever since they took it over from British hands, but simply that what the British left was a dinosaur very hard to deal with. You do not seem to get that my point is not attacking the Indian, not even the British, but to SIMPLY SHOW that technical heritages become an even bigger burden than more purely monumental ones, like stone gates and palaces.

    Or maybe they didn't offer e-Tickets. OF COURSE you provide the example of computers. "Updates" are always better, right?

    Per Indian history, I don't think your version is accurate. India inherited and managed a complex system with aplomb. I don't dispute that it was hard to deal with. Both before and after Independence the rail system was not backward and falling to pieces.
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    I'm impressed that your expertise extends to the state of the Indian Railway post-Independence. It would be interesting to hear you post more of your observations about the specifics the Indian rail system faced that made it backward and broken in that period. Was it not transporting people? Did it not move cargo? Did it not offer services to a variety of customers? Was it half-African? I DO think it's fair to say Indians are half-African.
    I am not at all impressed that you would try to make pass mere crawling along for right functioning; not even impressed by the fact that the next paragraph you wrote immediately after enters in downright contradiction with it all.

    Quote Originally Posted by zoltanspawn View Post


    Or maybe they didn't offer e-Tickets. OF COURSE you provide the example of computers. "Updates" are always better, right?

    Per Indian history, I don't think your version is accurate. India inherited and managed a complex system with aplomb. I don't dispute that it was hard to deal with. Both before and after Independence the rail system was not backward and falling to pieces.
    If everybody wrote and thought in that finely balanced or, rather, compromising way, there would be no Sun newstrash, nor nationalistic politrash

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