The Born This Way episode totally lacked direction and you could tell they wrote whatever they could just so they could sing the song. At first the show featured songs that had something to do with the episodes but now it seems like they just make an effort to do newer songs to be relevant and edgy, for example the techno song that says "Barbra Streisand" that they danced to at the mall. WTF did that have to do with anything?
And this Rumors episode was...ok...it made a lot more sense than Born This Way.
^In glee everything can be solved by singing... honestly if you can't accept that...
The Good: The songs were great. Brit's conversations with her cat were funny as hell. I hope they bring back "Fondue for Two". Kristen Chenowith was a knee-slapper as well.
The Bad: Artie calling Brit stupid. Santana taking advantage and swooping in. Lack of lines or singing for Kurt and Mercedes. No momentum on the Karofsky storyline, aside from Satana's interview with Jewfro Boy.
The Ugly: Sue's disguises. Now she's becoming a parody of herself.
I personally thought the Born this Way episode was not bad - I loved the message behind it, accepting yourself for who you are and how you were born. Kids and teenagers more so than ever need to be taught that and with Glee being such a popular show I am glad that they make an effort to embrace that message.
I LOVED the Fleetwood Mac's songs - Rachel's version of "Go your own way" was actually not as bad as I thought it would be when she started singing it.
For the future - I want to see more of Santana, really liking this lesbian storyline going for her!
The Born This Way episode seemed rushed and just written around the song when it should be the other way around, they should just write the storyline and then choose the songs that fit it the most, you know what I mean? I felt that episode they were like "Ok so the Gaga song is huge right now so let's do an episode about that, oh and let's feature the Barbra Streisand techno song as well, just because it's really popular at the clubs and we need to grab the audience".
I don't really have a clue about how the production of each episode is done I'm just guessing based on what I see on each episode and how some things don't make sense.
Episode 13 is when I felt that the show "picked", simple because, they wrote it to be the potential-end.
Ever since they seem lost, and not only lost, but they are obviously changing things as they go, remember how Sam was suppose to be Kurt's boyfriend?
1) He WAS supposed to be Kurt's boyfriend, but someone leaked it and the writers changed it and added Blaine at the last minute.
2) The writers deliberately "leaked" info on Sam being the boyfriend, just to throw people off from Blaine.
Either way, I'm glad Blaine ended up becoming Kurt's BF. Those two have fantastic chemistry and sing great together. Kurt and Trouty Mouth don't have that, and the relationship would have felt forced. Besides, it would have been too obvious to pair up a gay dude with a young Brad Pitt look-a-like.
^^^ more 2 I think- they've been deliberatley leaking something every week to get press, etc
Either way, I don't believe enough in the writters to think that they are clever enough to leak different rumours like that. I like the show.... but I really don't have that much faith in it =P
Just listened to Lea's new solo on Glee and i really like it. Not heard the original but i plan to. Its called Jar Of Hearts.
OH and I feel the show is suffering a bit of THE OC syndrome (remember how Marissa lived a lot more in 2 seasons than a regular person does in a lifetime?)...the stories are running fast and they're making so much changes so fast that when season 3 comes they won't have anything new to tell unless they change the cast entirely.
The writing is extremely choppy in general...a Heroes comparison is accurate. Too many characters at once, not enough definition, too many different directions in the writing department.
It's also funny that they were freshmen last year yet Quinn is apparently seventeen now and ready for prom queendom.
Heroes was a different story, it was written for 1 set of cast members only. The end of heroes 1 was meant to be the end of us knowing that group of people, and Season2 was meant to be a whole new cast and their whole story. NBC wanted to turn the actors into celebrities though and forced Tim Kring to keep them all on. The problem with this is the Heroes powers were SO overpowered, they weren't designed to be made for more than 1 season.
You could blame NBC for this, but on the other hand it's a TV show and you should always be planning ahead "just in case", as it's not a movie.
As for glee, yeah the show has gone a long way from the original first episode. The first episode WOWED me, I really wanted to watch the show. The show was about a high school teacher, his faux pregnant wife, and him wanting to start the Glee club up properly.
Now the show is about teaching us a moralistic lesson each time, and not with even a hint of subtlety at all. The lesson at the beginning of the season and the pilot was a "us vs the world" kind of thing, which is fun to watch the underdog rise up. Now it's like Beverly Hills 90210 (the classic one with Shannen Doherty) but with songs to sing.
By no means does this mean I'll stop watching the show as it's still light fluff entertainment but it's definitely taken a different direction.
Some critics say they were glad that both pregnancy storylines were gone as it means they don't need to look for "shock storyline" to keep the viewers enticed and let it stand on it's own two feet. I think they should return to having those storylines in and removing the stupid ones like how the hambeast wanted to be prom queen.
[QUOTE=MarquisOrias;7105795]Heroes was a different story, it was written for 1 set of cast members only. The end of heroes 1 was meant to be the end of us knowing that group of people, and Season2 was meant to be a whole new cast and their whole story. NBC wanted to turn the actors into celebrities though and forced Tim Kring to keep them all on. The problem with this is the Heroes powers were SO overpowered, they weren't designed to be made for more than 1 season.
It's funny, because I see that happening with Glee when season three comes to an end. They'll want to keep most of the cast.
Oh and am I they only one who hates Quinn right now? I can't stand her, she's such a cold frigid hypocrite bitch. And Dianna Agron is like the worst actress ever, no emotions whatsoever, I saw her in Burlesque and it was like seeing an older Quinn.
The Hate Group AFA Continues Attack On Glee
I would probobly be feeling a tad more militant if the show weren't so monumentaly shit. All I can really muster is....well, my usual, christians are retarded.
Just goes to show you how loyal the AFA is.
NewsCorp gives them a whole channel (FAUX News) to express their views. But, do they remember that? No!!! You'd think they'd give FOX a pass on Glee.
there are so many other things wrong with Glee that this is really making a mountain out of a molehill.
Guess I'm in the minority - I love the show!
The show makes me smile each week and is certainly not intellectually challenging; but then that's not why I watch. It has had a couple of hard hitting episodes but lately has been a little more far fetched.
If it continued its current track, I probably wouldn't remember to watch...
This night's episode was okay but the voice in the back of my head is telling me to stop watching this horrible show. Even with the spoiler about prom queen/king, the plot is just so fucked up, I swear the writers are just stealing bits of fanfic and coalesced them into a somewhat coherent episode. I'm gay (and 25) and I didn't even know Tribeca was a "gay/lesbian capital" in NYC. Why the fuck would a teen girl in the midwest know that? I know I shouldn't talking about "realism" with this show but the dialogue is stilted to the point where even a conflict is monotone. Winos on the stoop have more emotion than this cast. Don't even get me started about the Quinn-Rachel conflict. Quinn bitch slaps Rachel and she hands Quinn a paper towel to wipe her tears? [Looks at the first line that I wrote] Makes perfect since to Murphy.
How horrible was "Rolling In the Deep"...that was bad...and Jonathan Groff said shit...lol
So i'm surprised the death wasn't teased for next week...TVLine has been saying it happens in the 2nd to last episode...which I believe is the next episode. But Ausiello denied tonight that it was a member of New Directions...which leaves who? Sue, Emma, Ex-Mrs. Schue...are there any other regular females in the cast?
and on another note...I've been rewatching the first season of "Popular" this week...for those that don't know or don't remember, this was Ryan Murphy's first show back in 1999. He's basically just re-hashing storylines from that show for Glee, but he did it SO much better on "Popular"
I couldn't take all the Blurt tonight.
I mean, seriously enough already... Mercedes and Tina have each had like 1 song all season and it feels like Blaine gets 5 every episode. and he's not even a regular yet?
I'm pretty sure Ryan Murphy is crushing on him.
^ Yeah, what a horrible Mary Sue thing Murphy has going. Blaine just sweeps in like a Golden Age leading man after Karofsky walks off. *yawn* Toss in some drama, make Kurt stand there looking horribly awkward. These little tweaks drive me insane because they leave zero character development and allow the two predominant gay kids to be god-like and untouchable.
It's almost as if he's vicariously reliving high school through this show. It's a tiring charade. Anyone that's taken a writing class knows decent character development is written from flaws - people want to see flawed people.
Does anyone believe that the prom king/queen results would be a surprise to the principal? First of all, wouldn't he be involved in counting the votes? And even if he wasn't, wouldn't whoever did count the votes mention quietly that this prank had occurred, and then throw away the votes for Kurt?
BTW, was the actor who published the spoiler visible in the episode?
Hmmm. I was not crazy about this episode. I thought all of the song choices were bad. And once again, Artie got a solo. He is not a good singer I think. Sounds weird and looks weird singing.
It was OK....How exactly does half the Glee Club get nominated for Prom King and Queen? Just 2 episodes ago, they couldn't sell more than 6 tickets to their concert- their own parents didn't even come, and now their half the court???? I was afraid when I first heard (weeks ago) that Kurt was Prom Queen- knowing the sorry ass writers it would be horrible, but it was handled fairly well....and Mercedes/Rachel/Sam- prom on a budget.....Rach and Sam, maybe- but Mercedes dress was not a budget...
I liked Prom Queen, but again there's a lot of things on the show that are so unreal, almost cartoonish. No school principal would've read out loud the name of a gay guy for prom queen, specially cuz it was such an obvious and cruel joke, if the principal did that they would be participating in the joke and letting students do whatever they want, nor would a principal let both guys have their first dance.
Sue Sylvester keeps gettin more cartoonish as well each time.
But I did like the Friday and Dancing Queen performances. And each time I think more and more that Artie is really cool, just like Britanny and Santana.
I don't remember anything specific about that show but I do remember I liked it a lot.and on another note...I've been rewatching the first season of "Popular" this week...for those that don't know or don't remember, this was Ryan Murphy's first show back in 1999. He's basically just re-hashing storylines from that show for Glee, but he did it SO much better on "Popular"
Oh and do you guys know that the same prom queen storyline happened to Betty's gay nephew in Ugly Betty?
^^^^ Noticed the body language, too....it could just be a straight actor's take on playing up the gay
I was spoiled, I don't know how much that made me react or not to the actual scene, I did want to Kurt though.
Say what you want - but the last 15 minutes of that episode had me in tears bigtime - and almost sobbing. There is something about the Kurt/Blaine/Karofsky storyline that just really hits me. Call it a childhood experience, or a parallel to people I've had in my life at that age, but I identify with all those emotions and that made the episode great to me.
We all get varying mileage out of the story arcs - just because we may not identify with some, doesn't mean they aren't doing a good job.
Davelandia I'm totally with you. And for all the inconsistent writing and such, there's something wonderful about having a romantic gay couple on TV in Blaine and Kurt. They're always singing to each other and supporting each other and generally just being sweet and adorable. That for me makes up for all the rest of the bullshit.
Marquis...I hope when you do come out, you make an effort to apologize to those you're negative to...I still HATE the guys who bullied me in HS- basically wouldn't even grimmace if I found out they died in a ditch yesterday....