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    Kurt saying, "I'll never say goodbye to you" to Blaine made me choke up.

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    @SgtPepper

    If I wasn't posting this from my phone I would link an article but im sure a quick google search of "Heather Morris leaving Glee" would work also
    I did that and found nothing.

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    I'm happy I watched it online for less commercials. The episode is only 56 minutes long...a normal episode is like 42 to 45...10 extra minutes of tv with 20+ of commercials for this extra "half hour"

    that said...I love this episode and I think it's now my favorite episode.

    1) I identify with Dave Karofsky. I was so far in the closet til I was 20 the christmas presents were looking for me. I was an ass and a bully. I understand the self hate the character has but I took the self hate to an even worse level then he has on the show. The actor portraying him is doing a great job, anyone catch his face at the end when he's sitting with Santana? I know that look. I've looked like that before. Its when you're so scared to admit to yourself that you might be gay but you can't fight it anymore. David's character isn't fueled by hate anymore but he's terrified and feeling hopeless and alone.

    2) Quinn/Lucy. Her in the 8th grade? Me. This was before I even found out I liked guys and after. I was 300 pounds, I hated myself and everyone around me. I had no real friends to speak of. So I changed everything like she did but minus the surgery. Only cause I couldn't afford it and my parents would never have let me. I became utterly fake and ashamed of who and what I used to be. Thankfully I couldn't move away so I still have friends who knew me before the change. I can see myself in Quinn as she's going to revisit "Lucy". The two will merge and she will be happy with herself (notice the hair during "Born this way").

    3) Emma. I once had an ex-gf who told me she was taking pills for anxiety/personality stuff (It was 5 years ago, forgive me for not remembering). She asked me if she was really being herself if these meds were to change her personality. I told her "The person you are is the person you choose to be. If you choose to take these pills because you want to be this person and you like being this person. Thats who you are". I still stand by this. If they came out with some "straight pill" and someone wanted to be that person and took that medication to be that person. Thats the person they are (edit: though I don't endorse this and personally wouldnt take them).


    We all have a lot in our past, I know I'm ashamed of a lot of it. But for the past 3 years I've finally liked who I am and I'm completely honest with myself and others. I'm happy with my life.

    wow, totally didnt mean for this to become so long...I guess i just wanted to say how much this episode actually meant to me

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    ^ There's a difference between accepting who you are and requiring medication. Her situation is literally debilitating...she requires medication. The diabetes/insulin comparison fell completely flat.

    I'm on medication for OCD as well. I wouldn't change it for the world. Taking 30+ minutes to clean a shower stall before showering every day affected my life. Don't kid yourself. It has nothing to do with 'self acceptance'.
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    I liked this episode. And I thought that Darren's cover of Somewhere only we know was good.

    The t-shirts confused me too. Anyone notice that Harry Shum was wearing "Can't Sing"? So why the hell is he on Glee...just for those annoying dance moves and bad acting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aagold76 View Post
    4/26 Episode....Born this way number....OK....The T- shirts they were wearing were supposed to say something about themselves they didn't like...Kurt's said 'LIKES BOYS' that kind of pissed me off...each week like Santana more and more....Plus- they are supposed to be the least popular and most hated group in school, yet 3 of the girls are running for Prom Queen- you could only sell 6 tickets to your last show and people are going to vote for you.....reality never factors into this shit, does it?
    Will wanted to get the Glee kids to embrace what made them different. That was the idea, at least, even if it got muddled in the execution.
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    what are you guys talking about? The t-shirts made sense. they wear whatever word/phrase that they hate about themselves. Quinn put Lucy Caboosy on her t-shirt because she hated her childhood image. Harry Shum's character can't sing so that's a part that he doesn't like about himself (especially being in the Glee club).

    embrace the characteristics that you hate...that was the message of the episode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aagold76 View Post
    4/26 Episode....Born this way number....OK....The T- shirts they were wearing were supposed to say something about themselves they didn't like...Kurt's said 'LIKES BOYS' that kind of pissed me off...each week like Santana more and more....Plus- they are supposed to be the least popular and most hated group in school, yet 3 of the girls are running for Prom Queen- you could only sell 6 tickets to your last show and people are going to vote for you.....reality never factors into this shit, does it?
    Quote Originally Posted by aagold76 View Post
    so- Kurt hates that he likes boys...???? That's the problem people are having- 1 meant one thing, another was the the opposite
    Yeah, Kurt's t-shirt bugged me too. Made no sense. Disappointing.

    The last two episodes have been so incredibly routine, it's not funny.
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    Aren't you guys paying attention? The T-Shirts are about the things that kids hated about themselves but learned to accept it. Kurt in early season one wasn't out and probably slightly in denial, granted that it was long time ago, but it makes sense in context.

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    I totally agree, BlueLantern. Kurt probably feels the same exact way you did, aagold76. Just because you have thoughts that you hate Kurt because he dislikes the fact he likes boys, is totally contradictory. He hates it for the fact that you cannot choose who you like, nor love. Yes, he was "in-the-closet" for part/most of season 1. However, he has embraced the fact that no matter what he'll get picked on; though, he'll always be a better person because he's not the bully. See, personally during High School I felt pity for myself. I never wanted to be gay. I mean, I like boys. Who the hell cares? But it did relate to self-acceptance with Kurt, because he's out and likes who he is now. Plus, if you had Darren Criss, I'm sure you would too!

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    ^any reason to post it besides how dashing Chris Colfer is looking?

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    Glee was down 11 percent from last week; it was also a season low for the dramedy. The last time it posted such a low rating was on Nov. 25, 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loki81 View Post
    I'm pretty sure that was the worst episode of Glee I've ever seen, and possibly one of the worst tv episodes of all time... an hour and a half of encouraging kids to accept their mediocrity and shitting on anyone trying to better themselves? that's as bad as that piece of shit "It's a Wonderful Life" movie.

    Lauren may like the way she looks, but she's probably going to get diabetes and die young from weight-related problems.
    I think the a more positive spin on what you are saying is "we all have baggage and deal with it in a positive way". Some of the advice was silly.

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    The half hour of commercials didn't help it either. Admittedly I kept tuning out to watch The Voice - particularly whenever Kurt came on screen.
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    There was a really excellent commercial for Dan Savage's It Gets Better project during tonight's episode.

    Edited to add here's the ad.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7skPnJOZYdA"]It Gets Better[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by XYZZY01 View Post
    There was a really excellent commercial for Dan Savage's It Gets Better project during tonight's episode.

    Edited to add here's the ad.
    It Gets Better

    this and the fact that Santana got a solo song were the only worthwhile things about this episode....it was incredibly boring

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    No Blaine/Darren Criss = SNOOZE ep for me.

    Though Santana is awesome, and her performance of "Songbird" was beautiful!

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    Yeah I think they're abandoning the comedy aspect of the show. At least the second half of the season, anyway...totally lacks direction.

    Anywho, I'm happy Darren Criss is a regular cast member next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Callum- View Post
    Yeah I think they're abandoning the comedy aspect of the show. At least the second half of the season, anyway...totally lacks direction.

    Anywho, I'm happy Darren Criss is a regular cast member next season.
    He is already a regular for the third season?

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    The one thing this episode got me to do was to dust off my Fleetwood Mac songs, and I agree, Santana needs to get more solos once in a while!

    The second half of this season has been sort of running round in circles and they seem to be changing relationships every other episode. I like the music, but i've not been into the show as much as i was in the first season sadly.
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    Hmmm. Wasn't crazy about this episode. I think that it could have been a lot better. They barely used Kristen Chenowith, and the song that she sang for her "show" was dumb.

    And any solo by Artie is always horrible.

    Next week with the prom looks awesome though. Looks like we will finally get our Darren Criss fix.

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    So in 2 weeks we find out which Glee girl dies...after watching next weeks preview...I have a feeling it could be Quinn....

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Callum- View Post
    Yeah I think they're abandoning the comedy aspect of the show. At least the second half of the season, anyway...totally lacks direction.

    Anywho, I'm happy Darren Criss is a regular cast member next season.
    I agree. This past half of the season had little direction. At this rate, the show will be canned by the end of the third season. This past episode was a snooze fest like the previous one. <3 Lord Tubbington (hitting the bottle again).

    My money is still on Britney getting the axe at the end.

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    I liked all of the guys playing guitar while Artie was singing "Never Going Back Again." More for the guitar playing than the singing. I had a sudden urge to buy a guitar and learn how to play. (How hard could it be?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by loki81 View Post
    that's so funny, this was actually the first episode in a long time that I've really loved because there was no Darren Criss and Kurt only had like 2 lines.

    I'll probably stop watching the show when he becomes a regular next year, he just comes across as such a douchebag IRL and him/Kurt are total Mary Sues.
    You mean that Blaine would be a douchebag or that Darren is a douchebag???

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    Quote Originally Posted by loki81 View Post
    I've never met him, so for all I know he's the nicest person in the world, but I get a douchebag vibe when I see pictures of him from the red carpet line or whatever.

    the character is just annoying and an obvious wish fulfillment fantasy on the part of Ryan Murphy.
    He is generally is described as "major dork", goofy and actually kinda humble.


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    Quote Originally Posted by the-sandman View Post
    dust off my Fleetwood Mac songs
    Something Will did not do. I almost had kittens when I saw how he was handling that old LP.
    I used to be very careful about fingerprints and dust on vinyl back then.

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    The Born This Way episode totally lacked direction and you could tell they wrote whatever they could just so they could sing the song. At first the show featured songs that had something to do with the episodes but now it seems like they just make an effort to do newer songs to be relevant and edgy, for example the techno song that says "Barbra Streisand" that they danced to at the mall. WTF did that have to do with anything?

    And this Rumors episode was...ok...it made a lot more sense than Born This Way.

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    ^In glee everything can be solved by singing... honestly if you can't accept that...

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    The Good: The songs were great. Brit's conversations with her cat were funny as hell. I hope they bring back "Fondue for Two". Kristen Chenowith was a knee-slapper as well.

    The Bad: Artie calling Brit stupid. Santana taking advantage and swooping in. Lack of lines or singing for Kurt and Mercedes. No momentum on the Karofsky storyline, aside from Satana's interview with Jewfro Boy.

    The Ugly: Sue's disguises. Now she's becoming a parody of herself.

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    I personally thought the Born this Way episode was not bad - I loved the message behind it, accepting yourself for who you are and how you were born. Kids and teenagers more so than ever need to be taught that and with Glee being such a popular show I am glad that they make an effort to embrace that message.

    I LOVED the Fleetwood Mac's songs - Rachel's version of "Go your own way" was actually not as bad as I thought it would be when she started singing it.

    For the future - I want to see more of Santana, really liking this lesbian storyline going for her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueLantern View Post
    ^In glee everything can be solved by singing... honestly if you can't accept that...
    I never said the opposite...What I meant was that it feels like the writers don't really have a clear direction of were they want to go, and they just write each episode at a time and change storylines depending on what songs they want to sing when it should be the other way around.

    The Born This Way episode seemed rushed and just written around the song when it should be the other way around, they should just write the storyline and then choose the songs that fit it the most, you know what I mean? I felt that episode they were like "Ok so the Gaga song is huge right now so let's do an episode about that, oh and let's feature the Barbra Streisand techno song as well, just because it's really popular at the clubs and we need to grab the audience".

    I don't really have a clue about how the production of each episode is done I'm just guessing based on what I see on each episode and how some things don't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by innocentbychoice View Post
    I never said the opposite...What I meant was that it feels like the writers don't really have a clear direction of were they want to go, and they just write each episode at a time and change storylines depending on what songs they want to sing when it should be the other way around.

    The Born This Way episode seemed rushed and just written around the song when it should be the other way around, they should just write the storyline and then choose the songs that fit it the most, you know what I mean? I felt that episode they were like "Ok so the Gaga song is huge right now so let's do an episode about that, oh and let's feature the Barbra Streisand techno song as well, just because it's really popular at the clubs and we need to grab the audience".

    I don't really have a clue about how the production of each episode is done I'm just guessing based on what I see on each episode and how some things don't make sense.
    Oh, I understand what you mean, honestly, I think that the writters never thought that the show was going to be sucessful and go beyond the first 13 episodes.

    Episode 13 is when I felt that the show "picked", simple because, they wrote it to be the potential-end.

    Ever since they seem lost, and not only lost, but they are obviously changing things as they go, remember how Sam was suppose to be Kurt's boyfriend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueLantern View Post
    Oh, I understand what you mean, honestly, I think that the writters never thought that the show was going to be sucessful and go beyond the first 13 episodes.

    Episode 13 is when I felt that the show "picked", simple because, they wrote it to be the potential-end.

    Ever since they seem lost, and not only lost, but they are obviously changing things as they go, remember how Sam was suppose to be Kurt's boyfriend?
    There are 2 possibilities on the Sam thing:

    1) He WAS supposed to be Kurt's boyfriend, but someone leaked it and the writers changed it and added Blaine at the last minute.

    OR

    2) The writers deliberately "leaked" info on Sam being the boyfriend, just to throw people off from Blaine.

    Either way, I'm glad Blaine ended up becoming Kurt's BF. Those two have fantastic chemistry and sing great together. Kurt and Trouty Mouth don't have that, and the relationship would have felt forced. Besides, it would have been too obvious to pair up a gay dude with a young Brad Pitt look-a-like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuryOfFirestorm View Post
    There are 2 possibilities on the Sam thing:

    1) He WAS supposed to be Kurt's boyfriend, but someone leaked it and the writers changed it and added Blaine at the last minute.

    OR

    2) The writers deliberately "leaked" info on Sam being the boyfriend, just to throw people off from Blaine.

    Either way, I'm glad Blaine ended up becoming Kurt's BF. Those two have fantastic chemistry and sing great together. Kurt and Trouty Mouth don't have that, and the relationship would have felt forced. Besides, it would have been too obvious to pair up a gay dude with a young Brad Pitt look-a-like.
    I am glad that Darren Criss got the one to play a gay dude and kiss Chris Colfer

    Either way, I don't believe enough in the writters to think that they are clever enough to leak different rumours like that. I like the show.... but I really don't have that much faith in it =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueLantern View Post
    Either way, I don't believe enough in the writters to think that they are clever enough to leak different rumours like that. I like the show.... but I really don't have that much faith in it =P
    IMO, the writers will be the demise of the show if they can't pull it together. They really need to come up with more coherent plot lines TOGETHER instead having one writer per episode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    IMO, the writers will be the demise of the show if they can't pull it together. They really need to come up with more coherent plot lines TOGETHER instead having one writer per episode.
    You totally deserve a cheezburger for this words of wisdom.

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    Just listened to Lea's new solo on Glee and i really like it. Not heard the original but i plan to. Its called Jar Of Hearts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    IMO, the writers will be the demise of the show if they can't pull it together. They really need to come up with more coherent plot lines TOGETHER instead having one writer per episode.
    Off-topic: If I remember correctly, I think the show Heroes had the same situation where only one write contributes to a whole episode. That show went down the drain rather quickly. I agree with maxpower9. Let's just hope they realize this
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmondMilk View Post
    Off-topic: If I remember correctly, I think the show Heroes had the same situation where only one write contributes to a whole episode. That show went down the drain rather quickly. I agree with maxpower9. Let's just hope they realize this
    Heroes had the problem with the writters strike, and had a very different.... nature of challenges, mostly, they could several things with easy use of powers, the only constraint was cash for effects. Glee is a much more mundane world, despite the tendency for elaborate musical numbers out of nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuryOfFirestorm View Post
    There are 2 possibilities on the Sam thing:

    1) He WAS supposed to be Kurt's boyfriend, but someone leaked it and the writers changed it and added Blaine at the last minute.

    OR

    2) The writers deliberately "leaked" info on Sam being the boyfriend, just to throw people off from Blaine.

    Either way, I'm glad Blaine ended up becoming Kurt's BF. Those two have fantastic chemistry and sing great together. Kurt and Trouty Mouth don't have that, and the relationship would have felt forced. Besides, it would have been too obvious to pair up a gay dude with a young Brad Pitt look-a-like.
    Yeah I'll go with option 2. Funny thing is that all you said above about how Kurt and Sam wouldn't work is what I feel about Kurt and Blaine...I don't think they have any chemistry and for some reason I feel Blaine is really annoying.

    OH and I feel the show is suffering a bit of THE OC syndrome (remember how Marissa lived a lot more in 2 seasons than a regular person does in a lifetime?)...the stories are running fast and they're making so much changes so fast that when season 3 comes they won't have anything new to tell unless they change the cast entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by innocentbychoice View Post
    Yeah I'll go with option 2. Funny thing is that all you said above about how Kurt and Sam wouldn't work is what I feel about Kurt and Blaine...I don't think they have any chemistry and for some reason I feel Blaine is really annoying.

    OH and I feel the show is suffering a bit of THE OC syndrome (remember how Marissa lived a lot more in 2 seasons than a regular person does in a lifetime?)...the stories are running fast and they're making so much changes so fast that when season 3 comes they won't have anything new to tell unless they change the cast entirely.
    honestly, I am the opposite, or sort of, I mean, I feel that the storyles are jumpy before Born This Way there are people wondering that Kurt might stay there forever, or at least wondering how in hell he would want to leave the place. There was little build up or development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by innocentbychoice View Post
    Yeah I'll go with option 2. Funny thing is that all you said above about how Kurt and Sam wouldn't work is what I feel about Kurt and Blaine...I don't think they have any chemistry and for some reason I feel Blaine is really annoying.

    OH and I feel the show is suffering a bit of THE OC syndrome (remember how Marissa lived a lot more in 2 seasons than a regular person does in a lifetime?)...the stories are running fast and they're making so much changes so fast that when season 3 comes they won't have anything new to tell unless they change the cast entirely.
    That is actually the plan, according to Ryan Murphy. The kids will graduate at the end of Season 3, making way for a new cast of singing losers in Season 4. Hence, the shoehorning of 6 seasons worth of story in the space of 3.

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    The writing is extremely choppy in general...a Heroes comparison is accurate. Too many characters at once, not enough definition, too many different directions in the writing department.

    It's also funny that they were freshmen last year yet Quinn is apparently seventeen now and ready for prom queendom.
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    ^Too many characters is a understatement, and the worse thing: Half the characters that do get consistent attention usually get boring or weird storylines (I am looking at you Rachel)

    Quote Originally Posted by FuryOfFirestorm View Post
    That is actually the plan, according to Ryan Murphy. The kids will graduate at the end of Season 3, making way for a new cast of singing losers in Season 4. Hence, the shoehorning of 6 seasons worth of story in the space of 3.
    I heard this disconformed, though I don't know how they are going to make it.

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    Heroes was a different story, it was written for 1 set of cast members only. The end of heroes 1 was meant to be the end of us knowing that group of people, and Season2 was meant to be a whole new cast and their whole story. NBC wanted to turn the actors into celebrities though and forced Tim Kring to keep them all on. The problem with this is the Heroes powers were SO overpowered, they weren't designed to be made for more than 1 season.

    You could blame NBC for this, but on the other hand it's a TV show and you should always be planning ahead "just in case", as it's not a movie.

    As for glee, yeah the show has gone a long way from the original first episode. The first episode WOWED me, I really wanted to watch the show. The show was about a high school teacher, his faux pregnant wife, and him wanting to start the Glee club up properly.
    Now the show is about teaching us a moralistic lesson each time, and not with even a hint of subtlety at all. The lesson at the beginning of the season and the pilot was a "us vs the world" kind of thing, which is fun to watch the underdog rise up. Now it's like Beverly Hills 90210 (the classic one with Shannen Doherty) but with songs to sing.

    By no means does this mean I'll stop watching the show as it's still light fluff entertainment but it's definitely taken a different direction.

    Some critics say they were glad that both pregnancy storylines were gone as it means they don't need to look for "shock storyline" to keep the viewers enticed and let it stand on it's own two feet. I think they should return to having those storylines in and removing the stupid ones like how the hambeast wanted to be prom queen.

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    [QUOTE=MarquisOrias;7105795]Heroes was a different story, it was written for 1 set of cast members only. The end of heroes 1 was meant to be the end of us knowing that group of people, and Season2 was meant to be a whole new cast and their whole story. NBC wanted to turn the actors into celebrities though and forced Tim Kring to keep them all on. The problem with this is the Heroes powers were SO overpowered, they weren't designed to be made for more than 1 season.
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    It's funny, because I see that happening with Glee when season three comes to an end. They'll want to keep most of the cast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Callum- View Post
    The writing is extremely choppy in general...Too many characters at once, not enough definition, too many different directions in the writing department.
    You nailed it. Perfect description.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisOrias View Post
    Some critics say they were glad that both pregnancy storylines were gone as it means they don't need to look for "shock storyline" to keep the viewers enticed and let it stand on it's own two feet. I think they should return to having those storylines in and removing the stupid ones like how the hambeast wanted to be prom queen.
    I think the first season was filled with too may baby stories (Will's wife faux pregnancy, Quinn's pregnancy and then Rachel's biological mom showing up) I felt it was too much and was glad that they got rid of all of it.

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    Oh and am I they only one who hates Quinn right now? I can't stand her, she's such a cold frigid hypocrite bitch. And Dianna Agron is like the worst actress ever, no emotions whatsoever, I saw her in Burlesque and it was like seeing an older Quinn.

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