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    How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    OK, I was just in the galleries section and say this photoshoot of this hot guy:



    and he was taking it up the ass but I wasn't surprised to see that he was still sold as a straight guy, which may or may not be true I guess..

    but the point I wanted to make is that nowadays it seems like 75% of any gay porn involves straight men. Someone once pointed out on this forum that this sends a very bad message and influence because they become so infatuated with straight guys, or the thought of being with one that they lose interest in other gay men. It becomes an unhealthy, unrealistic obsession and can especially have psychologic effects on anyone who is not out of the closet or having problems dealing with their sexuality.



    It's gotten kind of ridiculous because it seems like a gay porn company will throw the straight label on every model they can regardless of it's true and it will probably sell more.

    This is directly from the seancody website:

    We normally cast guys who are between the ages of 18 and 40. We like uninhibited, easy-going guys who love sex. We don't limit models to one particular type, so race, body hair, sexual orientation, dick size and the like are not important. However, you must be in good shape and muscular, toned, or lean builds are definitely a plus. Most of our models are straight, but we also love working with gay men who can show the straight boys how it's done!

    I know this is just porn but to some it means that they can have sex with men and STILL be straight. This becomes a big problem because there are lots of guys out there who have problems with accepting their sexuality and when they see this they tend to believe it's true. I knew two guys like this. One of them had been with over 10 guys and he still considered himself straight. The other one had a girlfriend and was cheating on her with guys on the regular and he didn't consider himself anything other than straight. Guys like this will watch the porn and it will reassure them that they are straight themselves.

    I have even heard some gays say they will NOT date any man who is gay or bi. This dude over here I found on youtube made a video about this.



    embedding is disabled so you have to go directly to the video... anyway that guy is a dumbass


    back to the subject, this poses other questions:


    • Do lesbians have this strong of an obsession towards straight women?
    • Have you ever heard of straight women who try to hook up with gay men the way gay guys try to with straight guys?
    • When exactly did this phenomenom begin? I remember going on some gay porn a few years ago when I first became curious about it and I never seen it everywhere like I do now.
    • Do you think this is true and do you think shoving straight men down our throats (no pun intended) has a negative impact on gay society?



    One time someone from this forum posted a link to a blog someone wrote on this topic. It was very interesting but I don't remember it.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?



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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    It's little more than fantasy fulfilment and the fad will change, just as it has always changed throughout the history of porn.

    Right now, straight guys are all the rage and that's where the money lies.

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    Worship of any type is a horrid affair.

    Worship your gods, worship your demons, worship your men... it's rather sad.

    Now i'm getting out of this thread... i'm catching myself drooling at that guy, and i'ma need time alone...

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    This is in reference to the video Why I'm an angry black woman. I didn't watch the entire video, because I've had enough of angry black women to last the rest of my life. I grew up around them & dated them also. It's hard for me to understand why someone would post such a stupid video!

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Quote Originally Posted by crisco View Post
    It's hard for me to understand why someone would post such a stupid video!
    Looking for their 15 minutes of fame.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Quote Originally Posted by crisco View Post
    This is in reference to the video Why I'm an angry black woman. I didn't watch the entire video, because I've had enough of angry black women to last the rest of my life. I grew up around them & dated them also. It's hard for me to understand why someone would post such a stupid video!
    What video? Are you talking about the one I posted in first post?

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    Yes, the first video with the angry black woman explaining why she doesn't date gay men. She clearly has no idea what the fuck she's talking about!

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    I think it has to do with guys not wanting the effeminate gay stereotype and therefore going after normal/straight acting guys instead. I thought it was sort of a code for "don't be a raging queen", not heterosexual.

    The latter seems rather impossible with a cock in your mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisco View Post
    Yes, the first video with the angry black woman explaining why she doesn't date gay men. She clearly has no idea what the fuck she's talking about!
    That wasn't a woman.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Hot Masucline Gay Guy > Hot Masculine Str8 Guy

    Str8 guys are eye candy, yea?

    I'm sure there are some Lesbians out there who... would look at a girl who's 100% not a Lez and want them. Isn't that just normal?

    A dick's a dick and a vagina's a vagina.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    The gay man who worships straight men is saying less about the straight man than he is about himself.
    To him, the straight man is somehow superior to gay men.
    To him, gay men are less desirable, less masculine.

    I think it is a form of self loathing, to be honest.
    Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Quote Originally Posted by crisco View Post
    This is in reference to the video Why I'm an angry black woman. I didn't watch the entire video, because I've had enough of angry black women to last the rest of my life. I grew up around them & dated them also. It's hard for me to understand why someone would post such a stupid video!
    Erm...not a woman. sorry

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Ya know, I find it interesting to watch a video of a "supposed" straight man with other men. I mean it's interesting to see what they'll do for money. It doesn't in any way make me "worship' them.

    I'm in the USAF and work with mostly straight men, and let me tell you one thing for sure, I wouldn't want to date most of them.

    Gay men are far more interesting.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    I agree with sixthson - gay men worshipping straight men is a form of self-loathing - unless of course they want to get knocked up and have his baby then it makes perfect sense.

    Some may think that seducing a straight guy is hot - but think about it - If he gives in he is per definition no longer straight. I also wonder why some will go gay for pay? How many of you gay guys will do a woman for pay?

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    I don't understand the "straight guy" thing when it comes to porn. I mean, I understand why it's popular, and why some people like it. But to me, the guys in porn are just eye candy. Fantasy fuel. If I'm looking at porn, I see a guy I like, and I start imagining sucking him, him sucking me, fucking him, him fucking me, whatever. I don't think "wow, he's straight/gay". I just use him to get off, y'know? I don't care if he's gay, straight, bi, or celibate in real life. I know I'm not going to be fucking him in real life.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson View Post
    ... How many of you gay guys will do a woman for pay?
    Some gay guys already do it for free.

    Make it the right woman and you'll get many more willing gays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davy View Post
    Some gay guys already do it for free.

    Make it the right woman and you'll get many more willing gays.
    Only bad thing about doing it with a girl is how embarassingly long it takes to get it up

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Epic Fail View Post
    Hot Masucline Gay Guy > Hot Masculine Str8 Guy

    Str8 guys are eye candy, yea?

    I'm sure there are some Lesbians out there who... would look at a girl who's 100% not a Lez and want them. Isn't that just normal?

    A dick's a dick and a vagina's a vagina.
    that's what i keep saying. if i'm attracted to a guy, i'm attracted to THE GUY...not his sexuality, so i really couldn't careless what his orientation. why would it matter? it's FANTASY...as long as you're not hurting yourself or anyone else, who gives a fuck who you're drooling over.

    and there's a difference between worship and appreciation. i watch a lot of str8 porn, but it's not about "worshipping" str8 guys. i enjoy seeing guys having a good time, regardless of who they're having it with.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gussss View Post
    Ya know, I find it interesting to watch a video of a "supposed" straight man with other men. I mean it's interesting to see what they'll do for money. It doesn't in any way make me "worship' them.

    I'm in the USAF and work with mostly straight men, and let me tell you one thing for sure, I wouldn't want to date most of them.

    Gay men are far more interesting.
    That's one hell of a shock!

    Every single rotc-future-usaf-pilot I ever meet was both brawny and handsome.

    So much so, that I actually wondered if both were requirements.

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    Gay men are in many ways wired the same as women. We are sexually attracted to "authentic masculinity" (which Heterosexual Men seem to have plenty of).

    It's biological and somewhat social..JMO

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoSlacker View Post
    Gay men are in many ways wired the same as women. We are sexually attracted to "authentic masculinity" (which Heterosexual Men seem to have plenty of).

    It's biological and somewhat social..JMO
    But there are gay guys out there that are masculine as well, though they aren't as common but to some they will not be interested unless they believe the guy is straight.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Yeah its true that the porn industry figured out that many guys have a turn the str8 boy fantasy. Yup alot of guys have the I'm str8 and I'll only fuck a str8 guy thing going on. I knew alot of guys like that in highschool and the sad thing is even more now. But it really is usually just a defense reflex and likely unrelated. They are more than likely just bi-curious and don't want to feel like one action or one series of experimentations will change their current sexual identity or status. I guess it's kind of a way to get their feet wet or just sample the fruit if you will.... If anything this type of mentality just gives them an out if they get uncomfortable so they don't have to feel like if they explore they will never be the same person. Also, it is a way for them to explore their sexuality without feeling like they delved into a gay culture they likely still find intimidating. I can't say I see this as unhealthy, just people moving at their own pace and coming to terms with who they are. Another aspect though is that alot of guys are just looking for someone who they deem "str8 acting" I can totally relate to that, If I wanted someone effeminate I'd go fuck a woman, I'm still young and still like em pretty but if you stray to purse shopping you've lost me. But I've strayed off topic, point is by what your saying this type of porn is unhealthy because it encourages fantasy about something you cant have, but by that logic all porn is unhealthy because chances are you'll never be with anyone in them or in the same scenarios. It's just plot, calling these guys str8 and having them say their str8 on screen is only there to fuel a fantasy scenario where the str8 guy next door gets horny and fucks you or what have you. It is no more harmful than any other somewhat unlikely porn plot like having a busboy drag you into the bathroom or working in a warehouse and suddenly the whole place breaks out into a spontaneous orgy. It's just fantasy meant to stimulate the imagination and frankly anyone who views porn and decides to base their view of themselves off of it has alot bigger issues than thinking their str8 anyway.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Now Sultan, in another thread, didn't you say something about not being attracted to "gay-ish" men? That's part of your answer right there. In our (gay) culture, unfortunately, straight men are the gold standard. They are the idols for gay men to emulate. Although lesbians like feminine women, I don't think they as obssessed with the "straight" fantasy partner as gay men are. I don't think we value ourselves as much as we should.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Quote Originally Posted by BabiGayPimp View Post
    Now Sultan, in another thread, didn't you say something about not being attracted to "gay-ish" men?
    Yes, but not all gay or bi guys are gay-ish.

    That's part of your answer right there. In our (gay) culture, unfortunately, straight men are the gold standard. They are the idols for gay men to emulate. Although lesbians like feminine women, I don't think they as obssessed with the "straight" fantasy partner as gay men are. I don't think we value ourselves as much as we should.
    True, true but I am just wondering how much of an effect this will have on closeted guys who are questioning their sexuality.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Ask Mr Owl

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    As long they stay clear of crazy "Danugh-getting them drunk so we can rape the hot straight bastards in their sleep" territory, let the poor babies have their fun in worshipping the straighties. I don't see much harm in it.

    Gay men imo, are hotter. They put up way less of a fight after you slip in the mickey.

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    Dangerous? No. Pathetic? Yup.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    The worship aspect of it is a little dangerous. Worship of anything is frought with danger.

    But, I, like others, want what I know I can't have. Is that really abnormal?

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    Do people actually worship straight men? I thought they just enjoyed the fantasy of watching straight men in gay porn.

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    Re: How dangerous is "straight men worship"?

    I think straight guys doing "gay for pay" porn are BORING. They are clearly not into it and are only doing it for the money. If I wanted to watch two guys awkwardly touch and feel I would've videotaped my first few sexual encounters.

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