You'll wish you'd kept that to yourself before long.....
You'll wish you'd kept that to yourself before long.....
Marley - surely you don't think that this story has anything to do with "those things" ! ???
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wait - 15,000 posts and now you got nothin to say?? oh man ..... "improper" is a wide and long street.. and i don't find where any harm was done -- and yeah it may have been purely "metaphorically" -- as no one way preying on the sleeping str8 boy -- nobody was underage- and noone -that we know of "in a deminished capacity" --- you want predators - look in the back of the church rectory...
well another low life MOLESTOR.
Hope your proud of your self. How could anyone other than a molester actually think that this is ok to do.
And to a friend, well you are some kind of buddy arnt you.
If you had the balls to do this , lets see if you have real balls, and guts to tell him what you did and apologize to him.
afew other low life like you have posted crap like this and you will find no one will like it.
So as Jasoncurs^ said you'll wish you would have kept your mouth shut.
what are you going to prey on next???
I agree with marleyisalegend. If true, this constitutes rape. The word "rape," after all, means "an act or instance of robbing or despoiling or carrying away a person by force." When a man is asleep, he cannot defend himself. His manhood is stolen from him, as he cannot give consent.
If this story is true, you should apologize to your friend.
If I were the straight guy and woke up to find you assaulting me (and believe me, what you were doing was criminal assault) I would smash your teeth so far down your throat, you could eat through your arse.
What you did was uninvited sexual molestation. Being gay does not give you the right to sexually abuse people.
Arent you glad that you posted this so all of the holier than thous could post and damn you. What hyprocrites they all are !!!!!!!!!
Sexual abuse??? GET A LIFE YOU GUYS.
I don't mean to sound moralistic or anything like that because I'm actually a very sexual person full of kinks and fantasies lol, but I don't like what this guy did to his friend at all...
Joe..... don't molest your friend anymore, sorry, but that's what it is, it's molestation. Joe, there's plenty of gay dudes out there that wouldn't mind you touching them, okay? You are lucky you didn't get caught doing that. If you ever get caught doing something like that, it might end the friendship right then and there and I'm pretty sure you don't want that?
I have a really gorgeous straight friend myself, who I've fantasized about before but I love him waaaaaaaay too much as a person and love our friendship too much to ever do anything sexual like that to him, it would endanger our friendship! I just couldn't do something like that. Just thinking about doing something abusive like that to him sickens me, I just love my friend too much to break the trust he has in me. It's all about trust, Joe.
Your friends, straight or gay, should be able to trust you enough that they can fall asleep and be vulnerable around you and you shouldn't be violating that. I think you crossed a huge line by fondling your friend in his sleep.
I don't know if you should tell your friend and apologize, maybe it's best that he doesn't find out? but for sure, you shouldn't do something like that again or even be think about doing it again unless you are willing and capable to risk your friendship with this guy for a few minutes of lust, because if that's the case then you aren't really his friend.
So can I get those who claim it's not sexual assault/abuse to explain why it isn't? I always assumed sexual assualt is doing something sexual without a person's consent. If they're asleep, they're not giving consent. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
I would be curious to see the reaction from all the people who do not think it was rape if it was a guy touching a girl when she was sleeping?? Yes yes very curious.
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I didn't say i thought i was right - but there is an awful lot of space between coping a feel - and "rape" and "taking something that can't be returned" -- There are thousands of guys who go out for wrestling so that the can do just that -- in the name of grappling -- and they didn't rape anybody.... Is it a "crime" probably- = he took a huge chance of getting caught -- and things could have gone really sour - but i say again .. he's not luring kids into the back of a van with candy -- or talking a young man into "concentual sex" that goes bad - and doesn't stop when he's asked to - and causes physical and emotional damage- that's your' predator -- this guy doesn't get 25 to life for coping a feel.. Hopefully he will think before he acts and there won't be a next time.
I'm not using rape in the usual way of a horrific crime punishable by jail. Rape originally meant stealing, and it still does. If the story is true, he is stealing trust, and if his friend is really straight, he had a little of his security as a man stolen from him. In short, what he did was not nice and constitutes emotional stealing, or emotional rape.
Therefore, he should apologize.
So now i'm wondering why this guy posted the same story in two different forums - 2 weeks apart.. hmmmmm....was it to elicit the dialogue above?? or for some other reason..
Marley, my man, i am 3 times your age -- i see that you need to win - and so you will- - but there are larger crimes against Humanity - and MIA's from VietNam that are still not at rest.. I'm just saying - there are bigger problems in the world then coping a feel ... End the War in Iraq -- and feed the starving children -- then go after the touchy-feely boys..way later - k? hugs ... The End......
To reverse the role here, if a straight friend of mine tried that in the middle of the night, i'd deck him one.
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It's amazing all the times threads like this get started....I can see how this wrong in many ways. I don't see how anyone could sleep through being fondled unless really drunk maybe. I really can't think of single reason this is good idea....I think the fantasy of doing this is very hot. But I could never even think of going though with it.
I really don't see the big deal though. It's just not a smart move.
At least we are ones that prey on sleepping/drunk friends.
Why are we hyprocrites??? why???
where have we/any us that responded say that we have MOLESTED a friend/person/child/drunkor sleepping.
reason you answered that way is you "may" have done this. And I said MAY not did.
your are just trying to validate what he did.
pull your head out.
To all you people who enjoy sexually assaulting guys, be careful. One day, one of those guys is going to wake up while you are inappropriately fondling and molesting them, and they will rightfully beat the shit out of you.
I like to mess with my guys awake
jeremy of www.onlyrealguys.com,
Where do you get such wonderful pictures? Are they sent to you? Do you take the pics yourself?
joesanders30, you might be interested in the legal problems of:
A member of the North Carolina State University tennis team has been charged with ‘crimes against nature’ after allegedly performing oral sex on a sleeping team mate.
Nineteen-year-old Dejon Bivens a freshman and graduate of Charlotte Country Day High School, was arrested on Oct. 27, 2007 and charged with “crimes against nature."
The victim was having a party in his apartment the night of the incident, and he told police that he went to bed around 3 a.m. on Oct. 27.
Upon entering his room, he said he found the suspect sleeping in his closet. The victim stated that once he was in his bed, he heard the suspect leave the closet and lay down on the floor next to the his bed.
The victim told officers that he awoke at 5 a.m. and found Bivens leaning over him, performing oral sex.
The victim fled the bedroom to inform others in the apartment of the incident. He then went back into his bedroom, found Bivens pretending to be asleep, and began striking him.
whateva...............got me hard.
This is all true that its sexual abuse and all but mostly because the intent WAS SEXUAL. I remember back when all my friends still though I was straight we all did some messed up stuff to eachother (in fun then but looking back now it could still be considered sexual 'abuse'). One time, my buddy took a picture of himself standing over me with his dick hanging out (which he later showed me and everyone-including me, laughed. He was actually pretty gorgeous so I didnt mind even if it wasn't a joke lol but thats not the point) and another time one of my friends pulled down another friends pants and drew a penis in marker going into his ass which everyone (including the "victim" thought was funny- he didnt think it was funny right away but he realized it was all jokes and got over it)
My point is all this was done in fun and we were all open about it and ok with it (eventualy lol). the difference is that we weren't doing it with a sexual refference. we weren't actually lusting after them and trying to make something sexual happen without their consent. Even though the pranks were sexual in nature we were basically all ok with it and knew something would probably happen to someone who fell asleep first. I should also note that since they found out I'm Bisexual, they stopped doing it at least to me. Partly because we've grown up (a bit lol) and partly because they dont want to cross any sexual boundaries with me (at first i was kind of offended they wouldnt joke with me anymore but I realized that they're cool with the Bi thing and its not that they're uncomfortable but like i said, that they just dont want to actually cross any boundaries)
I will admit though that if it was just me and one of my good friends that I though was gorgeous and dreamt of fucking sleeping at his house in the basement, I would purposely sleep with my pants down and a little ass showing and positioned in a way that I hoped would "entice him" to come fuck me. I wonder, does that count as sexual abuse If I wanted it to happen? He never actually did do anything, but just wondering if he did...
honestly - what a crock of shit - this is the way that a huge percent of gay first experiences start - a buddy spends the night - you cop a feel - his dick gets hard - you suck his load out - he pretends to be asleep the entire time - it is never discussed but he cant wait to spend the night again...
honestly - molestor - abuse - get a grip on realiity - it happens every day - a thousand times a day - jeeeez -
2 years ago, we had a camp and we all stayed in dorms. i stayed with another 3 guy friends. one of the guys brought his friend to stay in ours. there are 1 double-decker bed & 2 single beds. since we have another friend, Cas coming in to stay with us, so we joined the 2 single beds. so, the friend who brought Cas in, Cas and i slept on the joined beds. Cas slept in the middle. usually on the first night at else where, i could sleep well - hardly adapt to new environment. all of them are sleeping. while i was awake, i just tried to shake Cas if he sleep soundly. He didnt move at all. so i went on touching his crotch and he didnt move at all. i rubbed his dick from outside of his pants and he started to get hard. so sneaked in by pulling his pants and underwear. can feel his soft-haired pubic. I was checking whether his pubic hair spread to his tights, it wasn't. i was fondling his hard dick and balls. i stroked his penis, he's uncut btw. i sucked a lil because i dont want to be obvious just in case other roommates were awake. everything was done under cover- the blanket. After my hand got tired making him cum, he finally cummed. his dick is still quite hard. he cummed quite a lot. and he didnt move at all! then i cummed myself, even i used his hands to touch mine. haha. i think he's straight. days after, i asked if he could sleep well that night, he said he's sleeping well and i told him i couldnt. and i said "you slept like a corpse". that's my experience!
I wouldn't do that to my Friends.
Joe I couldn't do this to one of my friend even if he's hot, even if I want him badly, there's no excuse for such behavior. I know being in the closet is very frustrating but there are plenty of ways to keep your secret, if you don't want it to sprade, without molesting anyone and all above one of your friend ( straight or not ). It's a good thing that you didn't go across the rape line like this other fella who's gone way too far.
Last edited by Pickwick; August 22nd, 2013 at 01:10 AM.
I know i just couldn't help it :/