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    I just travelled through some older posts & threads at ATKOLs about the Kocis/Cuadra murder case early 2007. Since some are branding the dead studio owner & director as thoroughly evil & nasty - below a more moderate statement from a less biased member...






    What's wrong with having consensual sex with your models anyway ?

    George Duroy claimed once he had sex with some of his models in an interview. I don't remember anybody screaming about that. These guys aren't choirboys. They get into porn for a reason. If you've got some proof that Byran Kocis forced his models to have sex with him let's see it.

    Cameron Lane, Cody Lockhart and Connor Ashton are just 3 of the models who said nice things about Bryan after he died. They didn't have to do that. Even Kyros Christian said nice things about BK and he didn't even work for him. The only model I can think of who's said negative things about Bryan is Sean Lockhart alias Brent Corrigan - and he's a known liar.

    BK was wrong to have sex with a 15yo boy (who wanted it, according to the records of that case) , but I've seen no evidence that he had sex with any other underage teens except for perhaps Sean Lockhart who admitted under oath in a court of law that he lied about his age to BK, he even had the fake ID to prove it.

    Does one mistake make a man evil ? I don't think so but some of you obviously do.

    I'll side with the models who worked for him and assume that he was at least a fairly decent guy...



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    Re: COBRA Stars - Where are they?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfonso Frontale View Post
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    I just travelled through some older posts & threads at ATKOLs about the Kocis/Cuadra murder case early 2007. Since some are branding the dead studio owner & director as thoroughly evil & nasty - below a more moderate statement from a less biased member...







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    I wouldn't call this "less-biased" as much as I would call it "biased in another direction."

    I don't know why people are still trying this in the court of public opinion and I don't know why I'm even commenting because these Corrigan/Kocis threads never seem to end well (cue Marion or one of his online aliases to enter stage right) but I, for one, think it's possible that Kocis was neither the worst monster who ever lived NOR was he "more sinned against than sinning."

    He was a complicated man. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Críostóir View Post
    I agree, Snapper, except that I'm still not convinced that Corrigan was actually underage when he made those first films for Cobra. I think it was his way of suppressing as much of his bareback work as possible so he could get work with the big studios, and it worked.
    I've seen you post this before, but the explanation doesn't hold water. Of the four videos shot prior to October 2004 (the solo one, Pool Boy, Crush and Bare-Boned) the only one of them that features bareback sex is Pool Boy. Compare that to the (at least) three bareback videos shot AFTER he turned 18 and the theory makes no real sense.

    Far be it for me to spoil the conspiracy fun of the anti-Corrigan crowd but isn't it time to let this one rest?

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    I, for one, think it's possible that Kocis was neither the worst monster who ever lived....


    ..................................... ....among all the gayporn producers & directors of the last 40 years worldwide ?


    Of course not. I know about at least three studio owners or directors who spend some time in jail - one of them sentenced for abusing a 14-year-old boy... but he's meanwhile out and back in business, now around 70 - but still a major figure and active as director & producer in Germany & Czechia...

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    Re: COBRA Stars - Where are they?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfonso Frontale View Post
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    ...among all the gayporn producers & directors of the last 40 years worldwide ?


    Of course not.
    I was responding to the post in which you said he was being demonized.

    "Since some are branding the dead studio owner & director as thoroughly evil & nasty"

    I was agreeing that I don't think he was a demon, but neither was he a saint.

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    ....but neither was he a saint.



    .. That's true. Saints are rare in the gayporn biz.


    .. But they exist...
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    Re: COBRA Stars - Where are they?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuvFindsAndyHardy View Post
    I've seen you post this before, but the explanation doesn't hold water. Of the four videos shot prior to October 2004 (the solo one, Pool Boy, Crush and Bare-Boned) the only one of them that features bareback sex is Pool Boy. Compare that to the (at least) three bareback videos shot AFTER he turned 18 and the theory makes no real sense.

    Far be it for me to spoil the conspiracy fun of the anti-Corrigan crowd but isn't it time to let this one rest?
    Since I posted that back in November, I'm fine with that.
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    Its shocking to me after so many years how many people even remember my work in porn. With the literally 1000s of scenes out there and me only doing 5 it still is hard to believe. However, the only reason I ventured into the business was to pay for college and financial aid debt. I have long since been retired and have no plans in the future to venture back into industry. I did the scene for Dirty Bird as a personal favor to Brent, as we still remain friends to this day. I have also kept in touch with both Tyler and Cody over the years, and both are doing well and also have retired. My plan was to work for this little company no one had heard of and get in and get out and no one would be the wiser because the company was not well known. We all know how that went lol. Thanks for the support though and kind words...its much appreciated. Click image for larger version. 

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    ^You were at Cornell, right?

    Five extremely memorable scenes.

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    No, I went to a big ten university in the midwest

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    OH MY GOODNESS......Cameron is HERE?....... .......

    If it's not too personal.......how midwest?

    BTW......even if you did only ONE scene......it would be memorable.......

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    Thanks again lol and it was in the Chicago area

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    Inside stories from the set, background reports & expert kowledge of all kind would be welcomed.


    It's the first time that a former Cobra actor shows up here - and the readers in this community are very snoopy & gossipy ..




    To bring back pleasant memories: here's your pairing with Nate Grant in full-length again...


    ................................ Cameron Lane & Nate bb - PORNCOS.COM ..


    Still one of the five hottest gayporn scenes of all time - among hundreds of thousands released in the past forty years...
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    I don't think you will find my experience as exciting as the scenes made it look. All the scenes I shot were completed in three visits that I made to Brian's. Each visit was for a week, the first time I went it was just Brent, Brian, and myself and we shot the Naughty Boy's toy scene, which was probably the most difficult one I shot. Another model had flaked on coming out, and so this was a made up on the spot scene that neither one of us wanted to do because it just seemed so ridicuous, but did it anyway. We also shot another scene of us in a hot tub, which was planned to be released on the next DVD after Bitch Boy. Needless to say it was never released, and as far as I know the only copy burned in the fire.
    The second time I flew out there, there was about 7 to 8 other models there and something like 15 scenes were shot total for everyone that week. All of my other scenes except one were shot during this time...so with, Nate, Tyler, and Shaun. And on my final visit it was just Cody, Brian, and myself for the final scene I shot. I used to be in contact with all of them, but over the years lost contact with Nate and Shaun.
    Most other companies out there are about mass producing scenes, and models are flown in and a scene is shot...sometimes over the course of 8 or more hours and the models are flown back often times the same day. Cobra was different in that Brian wanted us to actually build chemistry with one another. So I would be flown out there and just hang out with my scene partner for a few days with a very strict no sex rule and get to know them. You already knew that eventually you would be having sex with the person, so it was super easy to build chemistry with the person already knowing where it was going to lead. And by the time the scene was ready to be shot, I had grown to really like my scene partners and so that is what I feel made the scenes seem more "natural" because I genuinely had feelings for the guys by the time it was time to shoot the scenes.
    Many people think the industry is full of drug addicts (and this is true for many companies), but I never saw anyone using drugs of any kind in all the trips I made out there. With the exception of alcohol, but I was over 21 at the time of my first shoot. And as far as "sex with the producer" goes...I was never made to feel like I had to, nor did I ever have sex with Brian. Sure he was flirty and touchy, but he was a guy in his late 40s surrounded by beautiful boys (most barely 18), who wouldn't be. And as for the bareback controversy that everyone always talks about. At the time of my first shoot I was 23...I knew what HIV was and how it is contracted, and so did all the other models. No one was "coerced" into anything. We fully knew and understood the risks we were taking, and signed contracts saying we did. I was tested every single month by contract from my first shoot to my last over the course of a year and a half, and I was under the impression the other models were as well. Also right before the scenes we were tested on the spot as another measure for our safety. Yes, this leaves room for error, again we were fully aware of that margin and if we didn't want to do anything we didn't have to. As far as I know, no one contracted any STDs as a direct result of the video shoots, I know I didn't. At the same time, I do not condone unsafe sex practices and always practice safe sex myself. This was situational, like if you and your partner were to go and get tested together and find out that you are both clean...that's how it felt to me anyway.
    Lol see I kind of took all the mystery out it all and ruined for you right? I wish I could tell you it was all just how you see it in the scenes and that its one big sex party...but the way Cobra was ran, the only sex that was happening was going to be on camera because it made it more meaningful I guess. And to a degree this is true because we all were so sexually frustrated by the time the camera started rolling, there wasn't really any need to act or pretend, it all just happened.
    I never met the "monster" that Brian Kocis is made out to be by some, but I also know others had completely different experiences with him than I did. I was older than most of the models, and so I stood my ground with him on a lot of stuff, and we had great respect for each other. Some of my scene partners now say they regret ever doing it because now the scenes are on basically every site imaginable, and at the time we were told this would never happen because of copyright laws. No one expected Brian to be murdered, and as a direct result there was no one to stop the scenes from popping up everywhere. I got a college degree out of my time, so I don't regret it, but its something that happened so long ago in my past, I don't even think about it anymore. That is until I'm recognized, and most assume Im still in the industry because I look the exact same (its scary lol) even though the scenes were shot 7 years ago.
    I never had a desire to be a porn star, and even now feel weird identifying myself as one, because I needed money for school. And the money I earned paid for my last 2 years of college, I graduated and was asked to come back and do more scenes and I declined. Im a totally different person now than I was then, but I did meet some amazing people that I still call great friends to this day. In that aspect it was all worth it, but overall my advice to anyone thinking of going into this area of employment is to be absolutely sure that it is something you want to do. There are a lot of sketchy people and companies out there that could care less about your well-being and safety. Luckily, Cobra Video was never like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron Lane View Post
    Thanks again lol and it was in the Chicago area
    Thanks for that.......

    I think THE hottest scene EVER is, and always will be, you and Cody Lockheart.......hottest fucking thing EVER.......

    On another note.......glad you didn't fuck it all away and got yourself a decent education.......

    (I bet Brent would take you on again in a New York minute....... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by seven2go View Post
    I think THE hottest scene EVER is, and always will be, you and Cody Lockheart.......hottest fucking thing EVER.......
    Quoted for truth!!! Yes! Yes! Yes!

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    Cameron,thank you for sharing your experiences with us and giving us an idea of what it is like to work in porn both in front of the camera and off it.
    Also,your story should point out a hard truth about porn. No matter how small you think the company is or how hidden you think your scenes will be,the cold hard truth is most of the time,it will come out one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron Lane View Post

    Most other companies out there are about mass producing scenes, and models are flown in and a scene is shot...Cobra was different in that Brian wanted us to actually build chemistry with one another. So I would be flown out there and just hang out with my scene partner for a few days.....



    Thanks for all the insights! Apart from the fact that the camera work, editing & sound of many Cobra movies is simply superior to most of the releases from other companies (icluding big names & major brands like Belami, Falcon, Cadinot & Co.) of past and present, this 'hanging around together with your film partners for a few days before the shooting' seems to be a key contribution to the naturalness & hotness of many Cobra acts and pairings on screen.





    We also shot another scene of us in a hot tub, which was planned to be released on the next DVD after Bitch Boy. Needless to say it was never released, and as far as I know the only copy burned in the fire.



    That's a pity. Was it a flip-flop of you and BC ? A restored master tape might be worth a small fortune today. Especially since the Corrigan scenes with other partners done by different directors after 2006 are not so enduring & passionate as his earlier work.





    I never had a desire to be a porn star, and even now feel weird identifying myself as one...



    Well, that's life. And as long as you are not nominated for the Noble Price or comparable important awards one day - you will share the destinies of many other skilled academics with a certain past: and your porn reputation will always outshine your scientific merits.

    So, it is perhaps best to accept your popularity. And why not a lucent comeback in the biz ? . Then, cult status is nearly guaranteed. And maybe you might even get a gratis grave of honor later - like some other respectable male models of the past...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron Lane View Post
    Thanks again lol and it was in the Chicago area
    Northwestern is every bit as good as Cornell, the weakest of the Ivies.

    Thank you for sharing your story.

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    Thank you for taking the time to comment! Its good to hear you are alive and well in the world.

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    Cameron, it was wonderful of you to chime in and share your experiences with us!

    There's only one big 10 school in greater Chicago so congrats to you! I'm assuming that your Northwestern degree has put you in a position where you no longer have to do porn (though in this economy that may be a rash assumption). I'm glad to hear that you're still in touch with Sean, who has also left porn. Perhaps the two of you can write a screenplay about your experience.



    I remember reading in the Rolling Stone article that one of the other Cobra models went to Cornell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron Lane View Post

    The second time I flew out there, there were about 7 to 8 other models there and something like 15 scenes were shot total for everyone that week....



    A few curious questions more:

    Did Mr. Kocis suggest or select the scene partners for you? Or did you have the free choice out of all the boys in the Cobra stable available in these days ?

    Nothing against Corrigan & Cody. Though, my first pick would have been probably Connor Asthon, Lance Evans & Sammy Paris as proper bottoms. Since Armon Maderas has already retired in 2003... .
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    Wow Cameron here? I just have to say your scenes are some of the hottest I've ever seen. Thanks for that insight into the industry you were in. It does sound like the taking time for the actors to get to know each other payed off.

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    Hey Cameron, thanks for sharing and thanks for the stellar work. You truly left your mark, congrats.

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    Very nice of Cameron to respond in this thread. Thanks for your comments and insight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moniker View Post
    I'm sure this guy nows goes by the name Paul Pratt. He does stuff for Helix.
    thanks for the info...knew that name ("paul pratt") & it never clicked because in his recent stuff he doesn't look anything like "aaron" with the long hair & buff bod...but he kinda looks like "aaron" in some of his older stuff...would've thought that after the murder & trial he would've gotten out of porn...but who knows? would like to know for sure because I really liked his look...and his cock's look

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    Re: COBRA Stars - Where are they?

    Cameron, as a longtime Cobra fan, thank you for sharing your experiences with us. I don't suppose there's any way for us to convince you to come out of retirement just...one...more...time?

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    Hey all.. Just found this site figgured Id say hi.. And yes I am the real Ethan.. Ill be posting pics soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by EthanArmstrong View Post
    Hey all.. Just found this site figgured Id say hi.. And yes I am the real Ethan.. Ill be posting pics soon
    Nice, we can't wait. Hurry!

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    ^ DITTO!
    Hottest bois EVAH........ .......

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    What happened to the update?

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    I allocate Cody Lockheart from Cobra boys. He is very professional, and for me, as a viewer, he revealed gradually, although him "pedigreed" felt initially. This is a view, plastic, slowly, but most importantly,spontaneity. It felt amazing inner freedom. Work with his participation can not be considered porn, it's erotica. Of course, I realize, that it's over (I think that Corrigan did not leave on time) but sorry that Cody went unnoticed.
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    Does anyone know what happened to Dylan (I've seen him listed as Dylan Masters) from the Cobra film "A Raw Boy's Urges"???

    He is the guy sleeping/just waking up in the scene below. There is something about him that always turns me on and the sex is amazing! I'll be honest, when I need to shoot; this has been my go-to scene to watch for a long time. Dylan just oozes the perfect combination of pure sensuality and pure sexuality.

    http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=2015377737

    If the embed didn't work, here is the link: http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=2015377737

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    My personal thanks to "Cameron " first of all for his honesty and sinceriy - and his candor and openness here. Some will say "...it ain't he" - let's give him the benefit of the doubt - no one else would have the knowledge of things as e did. Cameron, many of us watch and enjoy for our own particular reasons, many though they be - and you have no idea who is going the be watching you - nenetheless you give it your all. How many times I watch it and wish I could have been in Shaun Ferrara's plkace in your arms, for instance - Thank you for that dream. Thank you, immensely. Now you go and do what YOU want to do and BE what you want to be. For my part, thanks! I hope you wil share more - but only if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nnoidone View Post
    thanks for the info...knew that name ("paul pratt") & it never clicked because in his recent stuff he doesn't look anything like "aaron" with the long hair & buff bod...but he kinda looks like "aaron" in some of his older stuff...would've thought that after the murder & trial he would've gotten out of porn...but who knows? would like to know for sure because I really liked his look...and his cock's look

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    That photo is not Aaron; who left porn behind him in 2004. His final scene was in Cobra's Naughty Boys Toys. He now lives a normal life in Europe from where he returned to testify in the Kocis murder trial. He looks far cuter than those pics of him at the trial suggest

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    It's been A While But I Am Still Alive, Just Busy. Here's My Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007038012153 Add Me!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EthanArmstrong View Post
    It's been A While But I Am Still Alive, Just Busy. Here's My Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007038012153 Add Me!!
    Loved your scene in Campus Boyz three with "straight" boi Kevin.

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