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  • ...baby one more time (1999)

    1 2.56%
  • Oops!...I Did It Again (2000)

    4 10.26%
  • Britney (2001)

    4 10.26%
  • In The Zone (2003)

    12 30.77%
  • The Greatest Hits : My Prerogative (2004)

    2 5.13%
  • B In The Mix : The Remixes (2005)

    0 0%
  • Blackout (2007)

    12 30.77%
  • Circus (2008 )

    7 17.95%
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    Re: The Official BRITNEY SPEARS Discussion Thread!

    Quote Originally Posted by innocentbychoice View Post
    So you are saying that a better artist is someone with star power who knows what kind of art to make to appeal to most of the people. Are you crazy??? A real artist express themselves through their art without giving a shit about what anyone thinks, when art is contaminated by everyone else's opinion about it and is based on everyone else's opinion but the artist's then it's no longer art, it's no longer natural or inspirational. It turns into BUSINESS. So if you're saying that Britney is a better business woman because she knows what kind of music is played in the clubs and what kind of music is easier for people to hear then I'll say you're right. But a better artist? HELL NO. Britney is not an artist, she's a product.
    Bitch let's get real here

    If you're part of a record company, it's fair to say that you're a manufactured product. This applies to everyone (and in this case to Christina too). You're a product and you're selling a product. It doesn't mean that you're not talented and that you don't make creative and business decisions about what you will and won't do and where you want to go. Britney did everything in the past better than Christina did as far as achieving more commercial success. Their sales numbers do not lie. End of story.

    Christina is just as manufactured as Britney. And I actually prefer Christina's songs over Britney's, but I'm just giving Britney credit where credit is due. Christina can meanwhile use her octaves to wail about never selling a million copies of an album in a single week in just one country.

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    Re: X Factor: It's Britney, Bitch!

    Quote Originally Posted by innocentbychoice View Post
    I'm waiting for the day this happens to Britney not Demi LOL (so sad that everyone can say that about half the judges in that table):

    Except that comment was irrelevant due to the fact that chump couldn't sing worth a damn and Demi does not need autotune at all to sound good. Any one who has heard her sing live knows how powerful her voice is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakTheIce View Post
    Christina is just as manufactured as Britney. And I actually prefer Christina's songs over Britney's, but I'm just giving Britney credit where credit is due. Christina can meanwhile use her octaves to wail about never selling a million copies of an album in a single week in just one country.
    So? Britney can keep her 'record breaking'. People with ears know Christina has talent. So, your point is irrelevant.

    Amusingly, in the above clip, Britney was more offended than Demi was. Speaks volumes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakTheIce View Post
    The Circus Starring Britney Spears grossed over $138 million, which was better than Christina's Back to Basics Tour ($90 million).
    im too lazy too look it up but how many shows were on each tour? average gross per show?
    also didnt Christina cancel a couple of shows towards the end because she was preggers?

    now I like Britney but to say she has the XFactor as in presently...really? She ou used to be a good performer regardless of lipsynching but she's so lifeless with her dancing. Shes lucky she's pretty.
    and people call Christina a bitch but look at Britney, she wont even hug a fan without first getting permission.

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    Yes--I think we all know that Brit Brit is more "popular", "successful", and "commercially viable" than Aguilera.

    But to make it clear, I was never here to discuss numbers. I was/am talking about Spears' voice (or lack thereof). And say what you will about finding star power, blah blah blah... she IS there to tell (some of) the contestants if they have the singing chops to make it or not. Again...pure comedy.

    I can understand if she was a mentor for 'stage presence', etc. but no...she's a JUDGE for what is essentially a singing competition. LOL still

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    Wow... I thought stan wars were a thing of the past especially for those over 18. Guess not. Granted, I haven't read thru all of the posts but both sides are coming off incredibly stupid with nothing new being expressed at all. The same tired arguments from 10+ years ago -- "OMG, Britney sells more!!!/Christina is a real artist!!@@#$#@!" -- and the end result is always the same. Both will continue to be bigger then the people that dislike them. I also love the irony: Britney & Christina have actually been very supportive of one another via the press lately yet fans remain adamant on just one being the victor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -Callum- View Post
    So? Britney can keep her 'record breaking'. People with ears know Christina has talent. So, your point is irrelevant.

    Amusingly, in the above clip, Britney was more offended than Demi was. Speaks volumes...
    Nobody cares. Look at the season 1 winner of X Factor. Nobody even knows who she is. And she could probably sing better than the stuff we have on radio these days. Yes she has talent. But too bad she has nothing else.

    Part of your job as an artist is keeping the audience interested in you all the time. Britney did and still does that WAY better than Christina. If all it took was talent, everybody coming off these talent shows would still have a career. Sadly most of them don't.

    In one way you could also say it's amazing that Britney was able to use her limited vocal skill set and still set a record of being the best selling teenage artist (under 20) ever, a record that still stands. Also, in the earlier parts of her career Britney never used auto tune. Auto tune's first big use was in 1999 on Cher's single "Believe". At the time it wasn't even called auto tune. Britney's career had just started then. Her biggest selling albums don't utilize auto tune. Her first album that uses auto tune is Blackout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miaedu View Post
    'X Factor' Premiere Ratings Drop 25 Percent, 'The Voice' Tops

    One night may not be big enough for two singing competitions. With NBC adding an episode of "The Voice" to this Wednesday, up against the sophomore season premiere of Fox's "The X Factor," both series saw double-digit drops from their most recent outings.

    "The X Factor's" two-hour premiere averaged a 3.3 rating among adults 18-49 last night, according to fast affiliate ratings. That's a 25 percent drop from last year's series premiere, though a smaller drop from the December finale (3.8 adults rating.) In total viewers, "X Factor" averaged 8.5 million viewers.


    Head-to-head competition with the 8 p.m. hour of "X Factor" gave "The Voice" a victory. Though the 3.3 adults rating matches "X Factor's" total haul, the Fox show only pulled a 2.7 adults rating in direct competition with "The Voice." (In its second hour, "X Factor" grew 40 percent.) In total viewers, "The Voice" pulled in 10.7 million.

    "America's Got Talent," entering its home stretch, pulled a 2.9 rating among adults 18-49. For the night, NBC pulled in a 2.7 rating with 18-49-ers and a dominant 8.9 million viewers.

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    The rating system is beyond flawed though.


    "This is how Nielsen estimates it's rating for the USA

    1) Nielsen has sent out Rating Recievers to 25k households in the USA (out of nearly 118 million households). Only these 25k households are part of the Nielsen sample and only their views count towards TV RATING estimates. So it means nothing if you watch the X Factor or not, since your views do not count at all.

    2) Let's say that out of those 25k, only 2000 watched The Voice, that means 2/25 or 8% of those households watched it. That fraction is then used to estimate how many people watched The Voice as a whole in the USA. So 8% x 118mill = 9.44 million households estimated to be watching.

    WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?

    1) Basic statistics teach that if you ever want to estimate an entire population as a whole, your sample population must be at least over 5% of the whole population. Nielsen sample population is less than 0%, 0.0021186% actually. That's only 1/5 of 0... so Neilsen should not be recording only 25k for it's viewership and ratings estimates; they should be recording viewership for over 5.990 million households in the USA.

    2) According to standard statistics protocol, if 5% or more of a sample population is not used in an estimate to generalize the whole population, they are automatically FALSE, the study is FLAWED, and is ultimately unreliable and cannot be trusted.

    3) There can also be VIEWERSHIP BIAS, since the entirety of the sample population is well aware of the fact they are part of the Nielsen sample.

    4) The SAMPLE population according to basic statistical theory, must be a RANDOM SAMPLE of the whole population. You cannot pick and choose who gets sampled, as the study can be flawed because your sample population does not look anything like the whole population.


    So basically, do not trust the Nielsen ratings at all. No one trusts them. Even TV executives are aware of how inaccurate and unreliable Nielsen is at estimating ratings. That is why they are pushing for a better rating system, which will hopefully come to light soon. X Factor likely got more viewers than The Voice, the social rankings of X Factor help to suggest that. "



    In addition.

    "The X Factor season two premiere Wednesday night ignited 1.4 million comments from viewers on Twitter and Facebook, making it the most talked about premiere for a series ever."

    That's more comments than rating receivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntneo(PT) View Post
    Yes--I think we all know that Brit Brit is more "popular", "successful", and "commercially viable" than Aguilera.

    But to make it clear, I was never here to discuss numbers. I was/am talking about Spears' voice (or lack thereof). And say what you will about finding star power, blah blah blah... she IS there to tell (some of) the contestants if they have the singing chops to make it or not. Again...pure comedy.

    I can understand if she was a mentor for 'stage presence', etc. but no...she's a JUDGE for what is essentially a singing competition. LOL still
    It's not strictly a "singing competition" though. I'd understand your criticism if she was a judge on "The Voice", which is all about the voice. The X Factor is quite obviously about the whole package- singing, stage presence, likability, their 'look', ability to captivate etc.

    With her success within the industry over the past 14 years, I think she has every right to be a judge on the show- despite maybe not having power-house vocals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakTheIce View Post
    Nobody cares. Look at the season 1 winner of X Factor. Nobody even knows who she is. And she could probably sing better than the stuff we have on radio these days. Yes she has talent. But too bad she has nothing else.

    Part of your job as an artist is keeping the audience interested in you all the time. Britney did and still does that WAY better than Christina. If all it took was talent, everybody coming off these talent shows would still have a career. Sadly most of them don't.

    In one way you could also say it's amazing that Britney was able to use her limited vocal skill set and still set a record of being the best selling teenage artist (under 20) ever, a record that still stands. Also, in the earlier parts of her career Britney never used auto tune. Auto tune's first big use was in 1999 on Cher's single "Believe". At the time it wasn't even called auto tune. Britney's career had just started then. Her biggest selling albums don't utilize auto tune. Her first album that uses auto tune is Blackout.
    Melanie Amaro can't be marketed for a few reasons, namely being she's not Hollywood pretty. You don't need a voice to sing anymore. Look at Britney, who is, naturally, the topic at hand. She also doesn't have a single for mainstream radio. So, jury is out on her.

    You are obviously blurring artistry with production. Britney does not deserve credit, especially as of late. Her handlers do as they do it so flawlessly. Her life has been tailored down to who she can even fucking hug, for God's sake. She can't even accept flowers without permission. Do you even realize how utterly sad that is? The woman is a robot now used to generate revenue off. And no one can argue any different because it's blatantly obvious just looking at her. The only remotely human thing she has done on The X Factor so far is when she chastised that one old guy for the Auto-Tune comment (as she was clearly deeply offended).
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Callum- View Post
    Melanie Amaro can't be marketed for a few reasons, namely being she's not Hollywood pretty. You don't need a voice to sing anymore. Look at Britney, who is, naturally, the topic at hand. She also doesn't have a single for mainstream radio. So, jury is out on her.

    You are obviously blurring artistry with production. Britney does not deserve credit, especially as of late. Her handlers do as they do it so flawlessly. Her life has been tailored down to who she can even fucking hug, for God's sake. She can't even accept flowers without permission. Do you even realize how utterly sad that is? The woman is a robot now used to generate revenue off. And no one can argue any different because it's blatantly obvious just looking at her. The only remotely human thing she has done on The X Factor so far is when she chastised that one old guy for the Auto-Tune comment (as she was clearly deeply offended).
    Britney has no music out at the moment, but her last album and lead single went straight to number one in most countries. So I don't get your first point.


    I agree she is awkward with basic social communication, but I wouldn't say a robot. I think she's uncomfortable with being treated like this huge "icon", so when people treat her like that she becomes awkward. She's also very shy and humble. It has only been 5 years since she had a breakdown, so I think some of this behaviour should be excused. Regarding the flowers, Britney did thank the guy for them- but it was edited out, to either make him look stranger or for time (there's full audition footage on youtube, unless FOX have removed it now). Britney contributes to the sound of her music and the visuals of her artistry, she came up with the idea for most of her big videos. So I don't think she's a commerce-cow; she's just a different kind of artist. She likes to sing, dance and entertain, she's maintained a career from doing that for 14 years. I don't think it's that ~deep~.

    I get that you have your opinions and I doubt either of our views will change :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Callum- View Post
    You are obviously blurring artistry with production.
    I'm not. You don't have your facts straight. Britney has very much been in charge of her artistic direction throughout her career, right from ... Baby One More Time. The original idea for its video was to be a cartoon theme, Britney changed this on her own. She came up with the idea for shooting the video in a school and having dance in the video. The original outfit she was supposed to wear in the same video was to be jeans and a T-shirt. Again, Britney decided to go with the schoolgirl outfit. Knotting up the shirt for her iconic look? Also HER idea. The resulting iconic video was basically HER doing. She has been very much in charge of her artistic choices throughout her career. The snake around her neck for the VMA performance was also her own idea. There have been so many countless things in her career which are purely her doing. She's not some robot following orders. So she does deserve credit where credit is due.

    And Melanie Amaro isn't the only one from a reality singing competition who just fizzled out. I don't even know who won the last 3 seasons of American Idol because never heard anything from them. Still have *no* idea who the winners of The Voice are, never heard them on radio.

    There is a lot of auto tune and vocal editing done to tracks these days, but back when Britney was still new to the business she got by without these.

    As for hugging, flowers, etc. do not believe everything you see on reality TV, they edit out parts to entice viewers, etc. We're discussing if she has any business judging the X Factor and mentoring the contestants. And she absolutely does in my opinion. She may not have the best voice in the business but she knows everything about how the music business works, what it takes to succeed, and how to put on a great ******

    Reality TV is partly bullshit anyways. Just an example, last season on The Voice some guy auditioned who was with Christina on the Mickey Mouse Club. She didn't recognize him during his audition. Audition ends and all you see is Christina go "omg I used to be with him on the Mickey Mouse Club!" The viewer at home would believe she remembered it just then. What actually happened was the producers and staff told her who she was before she said that. Come show edit time they removed that. So everybody thinks that she remembered by some miracle when she actually did not.

    Britney has pretty much immortalized herself in the music business like Madonna. From now on everything she does will guarantee #1s all over the place. Her last album and its lead single went #1 in so many countries all around the world and she never even had to sit on some show to pimp her CD out. And she topped that off with a tour pulling in even more money. Christina's last CD was just an utter disaster, so much so that she and her label decided to not even promote it with any touring whatsoever. In fact it did worse than all of Britney's last THREE releases (including Blackout which was released at a time when Britney had done ZERO promotion for the CD herself). This just proves that Britney has staying power and longevity in her business.

    Again, I like more of Christina's music than Britney's (some of the tracks on Back to Basics are F-ing EPIC), but I think some people in this thread are being unfair to Britney and not giving credit where credit is due.

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    Oh, no...the whole shirt-tied-up look from BOMT was directly lifted from Shania Twain, who originated the look. 120% sure Britney even admitted to that.

    I don't dislike Britney. I just don't understand how someone can't admit she isn't completely manufactured. I love Lady Gaga (a fan)...but I'll be the first to admit she's a marketing gimmick and mostly an act designed in a record company's boardroom.
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    Shania never wore a schoolgirl outfit. Every piece of her outfit came from Kmart and no piece cost more than $17. Britney thought the outfits looked dorky so she decided to tie the shirt so it looked cuter.

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    Dear lord at the people thinking Xtina is some kind of ground-breaking real artist, she's as manufactured as Madonna, Britney and Lady Gaga. She's just mainstream stuff with a trained voice. her latest song is mediocre at its best, just like the other ones.

    The only thing I see on Britney and a praise is that she doesn't have a ceaseless hunger for glory and recognition like Madonna, Lady gaga and notoriously Beyonce. Out of everyone, scripted and everything she's probably the less self-centered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronxp View Post
    Dear lord at the people thinking Xtina is some kind of ground-breaking real artist, she's as manufactured as Madonna, Britney and Lady Gaga. She's just mainstream stuff with a trained voice. her latest song is mediocre at its best, just like the other ones.

    The only thing I see on Britney and a praise is that she doesn't have a ceaseless hunger for glory and recognition like Madonna, Lady gaga and notoriously Beyonce. Out of everyone, scripted and everything she's probably the less self-centered.
    She can't be self centered because she can't think by herself. And I'm being serious. Remember how she has the legal rights of a 6 year old? I'm pretty sure Britney actually cared about her career until 2003, then it all went downhill...Right now she's probably doing it for the money and because she knows her idiotic fans will even buy a turd as long as her face's on it.

    And I really don't think Christina is THAT manufactured, yes she's a popstar which means that you are sort of manufactured by default BUT she's been able to make her own decisions for the last 10 years which is why she hasn't been commercially successful all the time on the same league of Madonna (well Madonna's albums haven't sold that well either, she's more of a tour selling artist) or Gaga but at least she's doing whatever the hell she wants as an artist.

    But enough with this Britney versus Christina shit. Let's just say they are different and we can happily enjoy both.

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    Re: The Official BRITNEY SPEARS Discussion Thread!

    i've never listened to britney spears.

    but you should watch this video:



    this video claims that britney is kinda "brainwashed" through "mk-ultra" etc.

    i don't think so ^^

    but you see clearly a kinda weird, i'd almost say "psychotic" behaviour.... some go so far to say that she has signs of multiple personalities.
    people with multiple personalities suffer from a dramatic psychic trauma in the very early childhood.
    while 95% of patients suffering from multiple personalities got heavy molested in very early childhood years, the other 5% are victims of bad anesthetic practice and woke up while a medicaul, surgical operation was performed on them....
    (these numbers and reason are up to discussionby experts, though)

    others are convinced of seeing signs of schizophrenia.


    anyways; watching this video, you see clearly a poor girl suffering from a heavy mental, psychic illness.

    i feel pitty for her...i don't think she likes what she is doing and i think that she need professional, psychological help.

    it's just sad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by innocentbychoice View Post
    She can't be self centered because she can't think by herself. And I'm being serious. Remember how she has the legal rights of a 6 year old? I'm pretty sure Britney actually cared about her career until 2003, then it all went downhill...Right now she's probably doing it for the money and because she knows her idiotic fans will even buy a turd as long as her face's on it.
    Why can't she be self-centered? LOL
    She can think of herself, if she decided right now to be the hottest popstar on the planet again she would be it in a heartbeat, she could diet, work out, listen and obey to a great top-notch PR team, get a team of stylists to get the best for, buy some writing credits, You know, Be THAT Britney.

    She has a super powerful machine behind her that can afford anything, and they're hungry for money, but I think it's pretty clear it's her decision not to do that, she clearly doesn't care for that so I think she can think by herself, so you were just you trying to mock her mental health.

    And btw all the Madonna, Lady Gaga, Xtina fans are equally idiotic as the Britney fans, they will buy the turd as long as their faces are on it, I mean wasn't that the case with Bionic, MDNA and Born this way?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronxp View Post
    Why can't she be self-centered? LOL
    She can think of herself, if she decided right now to be the hottest popstar on the planet again she would be it in a heartbeat, she could diet, work out, listen and obey to a great top-notch PR team, get a team of stylists to get the best for, buy some writing credits, You know, Be THAT Britney.
    She actually needs to ask for permission to do all those things first lol. So no.
    She has a super powerful machine behind her that can afford anything, and they're hungry for money, but I think it's pretty clear it's her decision not to do that, she clearly doesn't care for that so I think she can think by herself, so you were just you trying to mock her mental health.
    I'm not trying to mock anything, I'm just stating the truth. She can't make her own decisions and we all know it. On top of that she doesn't really give a fuck about her career (that I agree with) so that's why she acts they way she acts.

    And btw all the Madonna, Lady Gaga, Xtina fans are equally idiotic as the Britney fans, they will buy the turd as long as their faces are on it, I mean wasn't that the case with Bionic, MDNA and Born this way?.
    I can't speak for everybody else but I didn't buy Bionic even though I'm a huge Xtina fan. And I'm the first one to criticize her when I don't like something...I just don't see that happening with Britney fans that often, they all blindly follow and praise everything she says/does taking it to the most ridiculous situations and even making stuff up to make themselves feel better, for example: There's a video on Youtube of Christina vs Britney and both are singing happy birthday, the clip they showed of Britney was the one when she was holding a cake and singing to LA Reid on The X Factor. Britney obviously didn't sound half as good as Christina and some fan commented on the video: "She can't sing right because she's holding a cake" ROTFL. Classic Britney fan right there.

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    Although you mention she has no control over her career/life. She arranged the X Factor contract herself, her make-up artist mentioned working with Simon and she said she'd be interested in working on a show like that. Simon got in touch directly with Britney and Britney agreed to doing the show by a 3rd phone call.


    I wouldn't buy into everything you read regarding the conservatorship, she still has plenty of input to her career. She still comes up with concepts for videos and performances, plus plays a part in co-writing songs and writing songs for other artists.


    Regarding the Christina vs Britney debate, yes Christina probably has more range than Britney, but some people prefer softer vocals. Britney is far more successful than Christina and that speaks volumes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr-Pickles View Post
    Although you mention she has no control over her career/life. She arranged the X Factor contract herself, her make-up artist mentioned working with Simon and she said she'd be interested in working on a show like that. Simon got in touch directly with Britney and Britney agreed to doing the show by a 3rd phone call.


    I wouldn't buy into everything you read regarding the conservatorship, she still has plenty of input to her career. She still comes up with concepts for videos and performances, plus plays a part in co-writing songs and writing songs for other artists.
    You don't buy what they say about the conservatorship but you do buy that story about how The X Factor contract was done. Seriously? Don't act like the typical Britney fan here lol c'mon, they will never tell you anything different than that. It's business and they can't make their star look bad.

    Regarding the Christina vs Britney debate, yes Christina probably has more range than Britney, but some people prefer softer vocals. Britney is far more successful than Christina and that speaks volumes.
    I think they are both really successful in their own way, you can't really measure success only by album sales because Britney releases an album pretty much every year or every 2 years while Christina usually takes 3 or 4 between each album so just by logic Britney will sell more and be more "popular" because she's seen and heard more often.

    If you want to measure success by awards, Christina takes the prize with multiple Grammys and awards everywhere.
    If you want to measure success by voice and recognition of the music industry, Christina takes the cake.
    If you wanna talk about success in the movies, Burlesque did pretty good worldwide while Crossroads tanked everywhere.
    If you wanna talk about tv success, well The Voice has bigger ratings than The X Factor and the fact that Britney (or her people) decided to join a reality music contest after Christina did it and made it cool speaks volumes (and I didn't say that, The New York Times did, http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/18/ar...usic.html?_r=0 ).

    So there. Success is a very vague concept and, as I said before, they are both successful in their own way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by innocentbychoice View Post
    You don't buy what they say about the conservatorship but you do buy that story about how The X Factor contract was done. Seriously? Don't act like the typical Britney fan here lol c'mon, they will never tell you anything different than that. It's business and they can't make their star look bad.
    I don't agree, and I don't think that's due to me being biassed. The info regarding the X Factor is directly from Simon's mouth, the info about the conservatorship is mainly speculation. I think she genuinely likes to keep busy- not solely for the money. Britney didn't release anything in 2010- just worked on her album, yet she still earnt $64 million.


    Quote Originally Posted by innocentbychoice View Post

    I think they are both really successful in their own way, you can't really measure success only by album sales because Britney releases an album pretty much every year or every 2 years while Christina usually takes 3 or 4 between each album so just by logic Britney will sell more and be more "popular" because she's seen and heard more often.
    Britney's been around for 14 years and has 7 albums, she doesn't release an album every year and hasn't since her 3rd album in 2001. Which leaves an 11 year time frame with 4 albums, so she doesn't really release a new album every year.

    Quote Originally Posted by innocentbychoice View Post
    If you want to measure success by awards, Christina takes the prize with multiple Grammys and awards everywhere.
    If you want to measure success by voice and recognition of the music industry, Christina takes the cake.
    Britney has won her fair share of award and has had a lot of recognition for her music too. Christina is probably more appreciated by the Grammy association though.



    Quote Originally Posted by innocentbychoice View Post
    If you wanna talk about success in the movies, Burlesque did pretty good worldwide while Crossroads tanked everywhere.
    Burlesque had a $55million budget grossing just under $90mil, the cast also included celebrities who would bring in their fan bases (Cher, Kristen Bell, Cam G etc). Crossroads has a $10mil budget, and grossed $61mil- with her name pretty much alone.


    Quote Originally Posted by innocentbychoice View Post
    If you wanna talk about tv success, well The Voice has bigger ratings than The X Factor and the fact that Britney (or her people) decided to join a reality music contest after Christina did it and made it cool speaks volumes (and I didn't say that, The New York Times did, http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/18/ar...usic.html?_r=0 ).

    The ratings system is so flawed, as far as I'm aware it only accounts for 25,000 American households (not even 1% of the total).

    With that said though, Britney has brought shows their highest viewed episodes from her appearances on the shows (How I Met Your Mother, Glee etc).


    And I'm sorry, but J-lo started the music contest trend- though she followed that stint with a moderately successful singing career (unlike Christina).



    She has sold over 100million records world wide, has the 6th highest grossing tour of any female artist, has the most successful celebrity perfume etc etc.



    I agree that success is a very vague concept and both artists are successful, I just didn't appreciate you downplaying her involvement based on speculation about her conservatorship.
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    ^As I said before, let's just be happy that we can appreciate both. I gotta tell you I like both, though I'm Team Xtina at heart, and even though I kinda think all this Xtina vs Britney thing is ridiculous deep down I sort of enjoy it lol. Feels like the old times.

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    I kinda wanted to let this go but I couldn't resist:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr-Pickles View Post
    The ratings system is so flawed, as far as I'm aware it only accounts for 25,000 American households (not even 1% of the total).
    Now the ratings system is flawed? LOL I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be saying that if they said The X Factor had higher ratings than The Voice. See? Classic Britney fan syndrome right there .

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    I kinda wanted to let this go but I couldn't resist:


    Now the ratings system is flawed? LOL I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be saying that if they said The X Factor had higher ratings than The Voice. See? Classic Britney fan syndrome right there .

    It's true though . It's not an accurate indication of TV viewings at all. It's not being a "classic Britney fan", it's being educated regarding the subject at hand. Research into it yourself. I've had an issue with this system since before X Factor even aired as TV shows get cancelled based on the viewings of less than 1% of the population.
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    I wanted new music but I guess I have to settle for a "best of"...

    Britney Spears will be the next pop artist to join Playlist's greatest hits series this upcoming holiday season. The budget compilation group will release The X Factor judge's past and recent hits remastered on one album in November.

    A listing for Playlist: The Very Best of Britney Spears surfaced on Amazon.com earlier this week. The 14-track LP will feature Spears' biggest singles along with a previously released remix of “Circus” by DJ Diplo. Every studio album, from her 1999 debut ...Baby One More Time to last year's Femme Fatale, has at least one hit represented on compilation.

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    She has been looking amazing this week




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    ^She looks really pretty indeed, except in that picture with the yellow shirt. Maybe it's just a bad picture.

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    I saw all the pics from the Whitney tribute she looks STUNNING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by innocentbychoice View Post
    ^She looks really pretty indeed, except in that picture with the yellow shirt. Maybe it's just a bad picture.
    I think it's a 'without make-up' picture - it looks different because we don't usually see her au naturel.

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    Louisiana girl Britney Spears supported President George Bush and apparently a bunch of GOP House representatives raised some cash at her D.C. concert in '09. Sneaky.

    Texas-born Jessica Simpson is a Republican, though she's wary about mixing her career and political beliefs. She infamously turned down an invite from President Bush to a 2006 GOP fundraiser, saying it would politicize her charitable work with Operation Smile. Her father, though, reaffirmed she was a big Bush supporter. "We are huge fans of him and of his family, his girls," Simpson said. "Jessica loves the heck out of him."

    http://www.zimbio.com/Famous+Republi...essica+Simpson

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    Click dat 1080p and catch your LYFE.

    you're gonna turn this **** up!
    you're gonna turn this **** up!
    you're gonna turn this **** up!







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    Click dat 1080p and catch your LYFE.

    you're gonna turn this **** up!
    you're gonna turn this **** up!
    you're gonna turn this **** up!




    LOL at that gif. I kinda feel Will.I.Am totally missed an opportunity there, he got Britney in his studio and she's barely in the song! She only sings 4 words (that probably took her 30 seconds to record) and then he used the "Britney Bitch" from 2007's Gimme More. C'mon Will.

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    Britney Spears is my all time favorite singer.

    I admit her voice isn't the strongest but her tone is very unique, one of the most recognizable in the world.

    It has been sad though to watch her become a shadow of her old self when it comes to performing. But she still delivers on her albums and still makes some of the best music videos out there. So as long as she continues to do that I will continue being a fan.

    Quote Originally Posted by innocentbychoice View Post
    LOL at that gif. I kinda feel Will.I.Am totally missed an opportunity there, he got Britney in his studio and she's barely in the song! She only sings 4 words (that probably took her 30 seconds to record) and then he used the "Britney Bitch" from 2007's Gimme More. C'mon Will.
    I agree it's very disappointing.

    The song is also average at best. When you put Britney in one of your songs, make sure it's one of your best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geiri85 View Post

    It has been sad though to watch her become a shadow of her old self when it comes to performing. But she still delivers on her albums and still makes some of the best music videos out there. So as long as she continues to do that I will continue being a fan.



    I agree it's very disappointing.

    The song is also average at best. When you put Britney in one of your songs, make sure it's one of your best!
    Yes, I agree.

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    Am STILL bopping


    You are now rockin wit,
    Will I AM
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    Britney, Bitch









    Cannot wait until all the Britney stans do remixes and edit out Will.I.Ams presence with a HAWT EDM drop.


    He could of at least threw her ass in the bridge. It's okay, I can't be stingy when it comes to content from the Queen of Mars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronxp View Post
    It's okay I guess. I hated it the first time I heard it but after hearing it couple of times and seeing the video it gets me more in the mood. Probably not a song I'll end up having in my player but I can totally picture myself dancing to this at a club.

    The video is mehhhh but I love seeing playful Britney in it

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    I have no words, so I will let the galactic empress say what can only be said




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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalFudge View Post
    I have no words, so I will let the galactic empress say what can only be said



    There's already a gif?

    the only good thing about that song is the 'Britney bitch'.

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    The video was nothing out of the ordinary. She looks veeeery pretty though , I like it.

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    I love how the Britney parts stick in your head more than Will I Am's

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    17 COUNTRIES









    THEY LOOKIN @ AUS






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    Great news.

    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalFudge View Post
    THEY LOOKIN @ AUS

    OMG *loves it!*

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    She looks fucking HOT!!!!!!!!

    Somebody needs to cut out Will.I.Am out of the song...lol

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    Booty!!!

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    She IS still one of the biggest pop stars in the world. Some people not liking her behavior or looks does not change that.

    All of her albums have debuted #1 in the world. The only album which did not in the US (debuted #2) is the one which got the best reviews from the critics.

    You can see on the X-factor that often you can hear people scream twice as much when she enters compared to the other judges.

    And yes I do think she has a serious mental illness. I would guess bipolar with side disorders (like OCD and social anxiety). Maybe multi-personality disorder. It was really weird when she was talking with a British accent all the time, even when she was crying.
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    HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRITNEY!!!!!!!!!!


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    Ohh I completely forgot about that. Happy bday Brit brit! She'll never see this but whatever.

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