Obama's Inflated Health Savings

[justmeeeee]

http://www.newsweek.com/id/141829

Interesting article showing how Obama lies about his ability to lower the health insurance bill by $2500 a year. Newsweeks says Obama is full of it.

[smelter]

http://www.newsweek.com/id/141829

Interesting article showing how Obama lies about his ability to lower the health insurance bill by $2500 a year. Newsweeks says Obama is full of it.

There is a difference between outright lying and overly optimistic campaign rhetoric. Lol, I prefer to think of it as floating a political test balloon and seeing how long it will stay in the air before it loses altitude.

[greydog]

Under McCain's health care plan, millions will lose insurance coverage.
Heartless, John McCain.
His goal is for Americans to pay more for their health care because he believes this will lead them to think harder before seeking medical help.

//www.naturalnews.com/023296.html

[smelter]

Under McCain's health care plan, millions will lose insurance coverage.
Heartless, John McCain.
His goal is for Americans to pay more for their health care because he believes this will lead them to think harder before seeking medical help.

//www.naturalnews.com/023296.html

McCain's health care plan sounds like the new one being developed by my last employer just before I took early retirement. The long term care section was written by Dr. Jack Kevorkian.

[chance1]

I believe the thread was about Obama's healthplan and some inaccuracies about his claims

oh well

maybe on another website it'll get traction

[smelter]

^ Sorry Chance, the McCain healthplan excludes coverage for traction.

[chance1]

obama's healthplan will provide all with the option of "walking on water" which will relieve common back pain

works for him

[jav1231]

^ Sorry Chance, the McCain healthplan excludes coverage for traction.

And you can't discuss the merits or lack of merits of Obama's plan unless you talk about McCain's too. Just as you can't criticize Obama unless you're for McCain, or a bigot, or against gays, against cute puppies, are for the slaughter of innocent children...

[naked gent]

I can't see what value there is in discussing one candidates plan while ignoring the others.

The fact is that Obama is inflating the possible savings by switching to electronic records which means he is unlikely to reduce prices sufficiently enough to achieve universal healthcare.

Those americans who currently have healthcare will not be effected by Obama failing to achieve universal coverage but they will be effected by John McCain's plan to tax the healthcare benefits they currently enjoy tax free.

He believes by doing this you'll become a better healthcare consumer and thats how he intends to hold down costs.

Those are the choices, you can pick whichever one you like best.

[Musicman-bflat]

Here we go again. Its crying time again. He wasn't talking about McCain, but Obama, but yet you guys have to cry and say well McCains plan is not good either. That maybe true, but again he wasn't talking about McCain, he wasn't asking to compare apples to apples.

[greydog]

Obama's health care plan is the best plan.

[Toriko]

It's interesting how the article cites Obama, who is listing all sorts of reasons why his plan should accomplish something, but then focus on one reason, and thus assumes it's all impossible. Someone should logic check Factcheck.org. And they continue to repeat this over and over again, proof by repetition fallacy.

And not just the repetition, the article could have been shortened drastically, proof by verbosity fallacy. That's at least three fallacies in just one article.

[smelter]

And you can't discuss the merits or lack of merits of Obama's plan unless you talk about McCain's too. Just as you can't criticize Obama unless you're for McCain, or a bigot, or against gays, against cute puppies, are for the slaughter of innocent children...

... ok jav, now you've piqued my curiosity ..... which of these choices best describes you?