The Official BEYONCE thread [merged]

[james1200]

Hey. Fuck you.

sorry....you're not my type. i don't fuck jealous bitches

[sunoftheskye]

irreplaceable at #2 on the hot 100, up one place on it's way to #1 and already #1 on the R&B charts..."b'day" back up three places on the album charts to #6, "dreamgirls" about to debut big at #1 and her performane IS also being praised. who the fuck in history has done that???? not ms. ross, not streisand, not man-donna...not anyone!

take all that you jealous bitches!

(except xy and tavares...you're bitches too but i love yer bitch asses anyway!)

Like I said before...spouting off a bunch of chart positions and statistics doesn't make her any less a manipulative media whore and a jealous cunt.

[lawrence358]

OMG just give the girl a break what more does she have to prove lol

[james1200]

funny how jealous cunts on here keep calling her a jealous cunt.

[sunoftheskye]

funny how jealous cunts on here keep calling her a jealous cunt.

Yes, I'm jealous that she's getting overshadowed by a "fat" "nobody". Most def.

[james1200]

fat nobody? you're being kind.

[sunoftheskye]

fat nobody? you're being kind.

rotflmfao.

[TierraSimms]

xy, i love my beyonce. and this is one of the reasons why. she's a budding diva-who-will-eventually-lose-her-mind. her ego, no doubt fueled by papa knowles, is only going to get bigger. she's a fucking star!!

if you want further proof aside from the "listen" vid for impending flame out, just look at the billboard charts. "irreplaceable" is at #2 and about to hit #1, her album is heading back into the top 5 and will on the strength of "irreplaceable" no doubt also go back to #1, which will no doubt further swell the ego...and then next year, i smell a big ol' screaming match with jennifer hudson at the oscars followed by an extended stay at a "home". beyonce rocks!!!!!

Unbeweaveable is an overrated windbag. She needs to just marry Joe Camel and be over with it with this so-called stunt she calls a "career". Her latest album has barely cracked platinium in the US at 1.3 million.

[TierraSimms]

the hits have nothing to do with the caliber of her talent? who's delusional now fool?? how many hits has ms. american idol hudson had??? none you say...why don't you see the movie before you fall for the hudson hype. and by the way, that bitch needs to lose 50 pounds...at least.

now...what does my signature say...sumtin about kissin' sumtin....

DON'T YOU EVER, EVER, EVER TALK ABOUT MY JENNIFER HUDSON LIKE THAT EVER AGAIN, JAMES! I WILL CUT YOUR BLAIGE ASS OVER THAT GIRL. SHE IS VERY TALENTED IN ALL AREAS (SINGING, WRITING, AND ACTING) UNLIKE THAT OVERRATED HEFER UNBEWEAVEABLE.

Just because she isn't a size 3 like that weave monster doesn't mean she isn't talented or marketable. Hell, Jennifer will probably outsell Unbeweaveable's latest album next year when her album is released by J Records.

[TierraSimms]

ugh...the beyonce bashing continues. i'll give it up to jennifer hudson...she has a very good publicist. this is from the NY Post.
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http://www.nypost.com/seven/12012006...tadtmiller.htm

DREAMGIRL
(AND IT'S NOT BEYONCÉ!)
HOW AN 'IDOL' LOSER STEALS
THE HOTTEST FILM OF THE SEASON

By MANDY STADTMILLER

Beyoncé and Jennifer Hudson star in "Dreamgirls" as feuding members of a singing group. Critics are swooning for Hudson, who was a surprise elimination from "American Idol".

December 1, 2006 -- THE much-buzzed about new "Dreamgirls" movie is overflowing with stars - Beyoncé! Eddie Murphy! Jamie Foxx! - but the biggest one is a name you've likely long forgotten.

Remember that one weird "American Idol" season a few years back where people started talking about issues of racism and the curvy girl with the amazing set of pipes got booted from the show early on?

Yeah, well, she just made Beyoncé look like a pretty extra.

Meet, once again won't you, Jennifer Hudson, the chills-inspiring, coast-to-coast ovation-getting new stunner who beat out 782 other hopefuls to play sidelined star Effie White, and inspired Oprah to say that listening to her sing was like "a religious experience . . . She makes the little hairs on the back of your neck stand up."

But even someone with the power to give Oprah religion can't stop Hollywood from being Hollywood. In a case of life imitating art, the breakout Hudson is being pushed aside for the fabulous Ms. Beyoncé.

Although the new Diana Ross and the Supremes-tinged movie is an ensemble cast, the Paramount/DreamWorks team behind the $70 million Christmas release has been pushing for Beyoncé in its Best Actress campaign in Variety trade ads, while the scene-stealing Hudson is relegated to Best Supporting Actress.

"It's clear from the early reviews that Jennifer Hudson is the star," says Fred Mwangaguhunga, editor of MediaTakeOut.com, an African-American gossip site. "And it's unfortunate that the producers can't go with that because she's a great story."

Jennifer Hudson is beyond a great story. She is the story. Like Effie, the character she plays in the movie who gets pushed aside for the gorgeous Deena (based, some would say, on Ross) played by Beyoncé, Hudson is the original underdog. In the movie, she is "the struggle character," notes hollywood-elsewhere.com columnist Jeffrey Wells.

"She's about being hurt and being pigeonholed and cast aside, partly because her character is a pain in the ass," he says. "But also because she's - not fat - but she's large."

In real life, Hudson could pen a lyric or two about being a "Survivor" herself. Booted from "American Idol" in 2004 amid controversy over the voting system, definitely a little bit too wide by Hollywood's standards, she is a former cruise ship entertainer, for crying out loud. And now she's on "Oprah" with Simon Cowell personally apologizing, almost begging, to boot? This kind of thing just doesn't happen.

Oh, but it gets better.

"From what we understand, Oprah personally called Jennifer Hudson on her performance, and that same call wasn't given to Beyoncé," says Mwangaguhunga. "Getting a call from Oprah is to most entertainers probably more important than getting a call from the president of the United States. It's someone letting you know that you've arrived."

It gets uglier still - as MediaTakeOut also reported that Beyoncé's father was livid about the final cut of the movie.

"Initially, the Deena part was pushed to Beyoncé because it was going to be her big acting debut," he says. "When Matthew Knowles saw the final cut he was really upset because it was as if they brought Beyoncé in just for star power. But at that point, there wasn't anything that could be done.

"If you look at it from Beyoncé's standpoint," he continues, "she's always been the star of whatever she's done. This is sort of a new situation, and she's not very comfortable with that role."

But no worries, Hollywood's not comfortable with it either. Even though critics are saying Hudson's performance makes Beyoncé look like just another pretty face - not at all bad, but just, you know, kind of eh - it is the flawless former Destiny's Child singer who is still commanding the marketing and Oscar blitz limelight.

"Beyoncé is not happening," Wells says. "Her character is barely there. She is all basically smiles. Nice singing. Beautiful. Obviously, you know, photogenic, nice stage presence, fluttering eyelashes, but there's not anything happening of an extraordinary nature. I'm not trying to snicker and say she's not good or anything. She's fine. But if we're talking superlatives, if we're talking your end-of-the-year kind of stuff, it's just OK."

Then again, like the jawdropping number in the movie when Hudson belts out "And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going," which has been inspiring standing ovations in early screenings, this too could end up being a moment of redemption for the former "Idol"-er. In a Best Actress category sure to be crowded by A-listers like Meryl Streep and Kate Winslet and Helen Mirren, throwing a newcomer like Hudson up in that competition would be akin to throwing her to the wolves.

"The art of campaigning for the Oscars is very, very complex," notes Martin Grove, a columnist with Hollywood Reporter Online. "You don't want to introduce to that group a complete newcomer. There's no way to control what the Academy does, but by positioning her for Best Supporting Actress it's very smart Oscar strategizing on the part of Paramount and DreamWorks. "She may have lost 'American Idol,' " Grove adds. "But she's definitely an American star."

mandy.stadtmiller@nypost.com

I LOVE IT!

[TierraSimms]

I am not a Beyonce fan at all, but I'm not going to deny her talent as a singer. But, I'm sorry... I have issues with someone making millions of dollars making a movie when she is referred to as "coming along as an actress", but sometimes that's the difference between an artist and a star.

More on topic... the studio agrees that she is the star. They are pushing for her to be nominated for Best Leading Actress and Anika Noni Rose (yes, there are three Dreams) as supporting. In Hollywood nothing sings louder than $$$ and Beyonce will bring in more than the other two (as much as it kills me to say).

What's worse is Unbeweaveable is making $15 million for this film when she can't act her way out of a paper bag. That is when you know that something is MONUMENTALLY WRONG with this picture when Halle Berry, an Oscar-winning talented actress, is only making like $7 million/film.

[TierraSimms]

Just to give you guys a heads up:

Mariah will still trounce all of these baby girls!!


Mariah has sold more records then all these girls combined, and her acting -- ehh so so, improving though. But the thing is Mariah knows what she is good at (ex. The huge success of Mimi!)

I am also excited to see what Jennifer Hudson has to offer. She has proven herself on American Idol. I don't think that just because she wasn't the winner, she doesnt have talent. More losers have become bigger stars than the winner. Kelly Clarkson is the only truly successful winner!


-- PS -- Why does it matter is Jennifer Hudson is fat. I find that extremely offensive, you are saying that fat people can't be successful, talented, or attractive?

That's why I like you, Danno. You are a very attractive and intelligent man.

[TierraSimms]

Miss Beyonce better recognize. And futhermore........ while I did find the story of her gay uncle touching, She knows VERY Well that she needs the gay community on her side too. It sounds like she was pandering to us. HMMM......Stay tuned.

Don't worry she is.

[TierraSimms]

beyonce is sweet, can actually sing and is majorly successful. she's probably gonna be the only person in history to have a number one single, album and movie simultaneously when "dreamgirls" comes out yet she's despised...now, bitches like paris hilton and madonna are known to be major bitches, they can't sing or barely sing, can't sell an album to save their lives or in madonna's case can no longer sell albums yet they're worshipped by the fags on here...i smell a racial double standard. sadly mostly from the black men on this site...we're certainly well known for tearing down our own when they get "too succesful". bullshit slave mentality.

i'm biracial and yet it's clear as day to me anyway...sad you all can't see it.

Boy, if you get your blaige ass up with that "racial" mess. I'm multiracial, and the bitch is TIRED. She needs to go away.

[james1200]

i was wondering how long it would take you to come out of hiding to bash my weavyonce my fellow biracial ho'! sorry, i may be a neanderthal but ms. jennifer hudson will be relegated to roles on the CW. maybe they'll build a show around her called "fat heffer in the hood" while beyonce continues making hit movies and albums and singles and perfumes and a fashion line...

[james1200]

where did you get that figure about halle berry making only 7 million a film by the way? she got 15 million for catwoman and gothika before that...

[TierraSimms]

i was wondering how long it would take you to come out of hiding to bash my weavyonce my fellow biracial ho'! sorry, i may be a neanderthal but ms. jennifer hudson will be relegated to roles on the CW. maybe they'll build a show around her called "fat heffer in the hood" while beyonce continues making hit movies and albums and singles and perfumes and a fashion line...

Ho, I ain't infesting every Tom, Dick, and Jane's bed like an infestation of fleas on a mangy dog. I'm going to put a HIT OUT ON YOUR BLAIGE ASS for talking about my Jennifer Hudson! The Charles River should be frozen over by now, so nobody would find your body until the spring thrawl. By then she will have won her Oscar, and your beloved Unbeweaveable Monster will be as Hillary Duff says, "So yesterday, so yesterday."

[sunoftheskye]

Lmfao @ Beyonce putting out HIT movies.

Pink Panther and Fighting Temptations both bombed.

[james1200]

Ho, I ain't infesting every Tom, Dick, and Jane's bed like an infestation of fleas on a mangy dog. I'm going to put a HIT OUT ON YOUR BLAIGE ASS for talking about my Jennifer Hudson! The Charles River should be frozen over by now, so nobody would find your body until the spring thrawl. By then she will have won her Oscar, and your beloved Unbeweaveable Monster will be as Hillary Duff says, "So yesterday, so yesterday."

tierra, baby, you're quoting hilary duff and i'm suppsed to take you seriously? pfffft!

it's been a warm winter and the charles river hasn't come close to freezing over so

i'm giving jennifer fatson, uh, hudson, some tough love. you know how cruel hollywood can be. and honestly, viewers don't wanna see something resembling an overweight whale on their screens either.

and to jealous cunt number 2...pink panther opened to 20 million, fighting temptations which shoulda been an outright bomb, opened to 12 million. goldmember grossed over 200 million in the U.S.

[james1200]

Ho, I ain't infesting every Tom, Dick, and Jane's bed like an infestation of fleas on a mangy dog. I'm going to put a HIT OUT ON YOUR BLAIGE ASS for talking about my Jennifer Hudson! The Charles River should be frozen over by now, so nobody would find your body until the spring thrawl. By then she will have won her Oscar, and your beloved Unbeweaveable Monster will be as Hillary Duff says, "So yesterday, so yesterday."

tierra, baby, you're quoting hilary duff and i'm suppsed to take you seriously? pfffft!

and it's been a warm winter and the charles river hasn't come close to freezing over so

i'm giving jennifer fatson, uh, hudson, some tough love. you know how cruel hollywood can be. and honestly, viewers don't wanna see something resembling an overweight whale on their screens either.

and to jealous cunt number 2...pink panther opened to 20 million, fighting temptations which shoulda been an outright bomb, opened to 12 million. goldmember grossed over 200 million in the U.S.

[sunoftheskye]

tierra, baby, you're quoting hilary duff and i'm suppsed to take you seriously? pfffft!

it's been a warm winter and the charles river hasn't come close to freezing over so

i'm giving jennifer fatson, uh, hudson, some tough love. you know how cruel hollywood can be. and honestly, viewers don't wanna see something resembling an overweight whale on their screens either.

and to jealous cunt number 2...pink panther opened to 20 million, fighting temptations which shoulda been an outright bomb, opened to 12 million. goldmember grossed over 200 million in the U.S.

Pink Panther made 82 million dollars which WOULD be an OKAY gross. IF the movie didn't star Beyonce and the budget wasn't...OUCH, 80 million. 2 million dollars of profit for a movie starring your "Star" Beyonce, playing....wait for it...a singer.

The Fighting Tempations, where your "star" Bee plays yet ANOTHER singer...bombed at an abysmal 30 million dollars.

[james1200]

hmmmm...30 million dollars you say? that would buy enough donuts to last hudson a week.

and 82 million is not a bomb when it probably made that much overseas, you factor in dvd and pay cable sales, etc. that's how hollywood makes a profit. 82 million is not a bomb. go back to school.

*triple snap*

[sunoftheskye]

hmmmm...30 million dollars you say? that would buy enough donuts to last hudson a week.

and 82 million is not a bomb when it probably made that much overseas, you factor in dvd and pay cable sales, etc. that's how hollywood makes a profit. 82 million is not a bomb. go back to school.

*triple snap*

Considering it starred Steve Martin and Miss Yonkers, 82 million IS a bomb when you just make back the damn budget. Rotf

[MorrisseyX]

Beyonce is a talented singer no one is going to dispute that. However, she has to prove herself as an actress. Now I haven't seen this movie but I will. From what I have heard she actually does a good job acting. This movie NEEDED Beyonce to get this kind of press. DO not think this movie would of gotten this much media attention without Beyonce I doubt it.

[sunoftheskye]

DO not think this movie would of gotten this much media attention without Beyonce I doubt it.

True. But the fact of the matter is...she may be bringing people IN...but when people walk OUT the name on their tongue is Jennifer Hudson.

[HazeMaster]

Jennifer Hudson is the covergirl for both The Advocate & HX

Surely that recognition defines Ms. Hudson as the Diva of the Moment

[HazeMaster]

Pink Panther made 82 million dollars which WOULD be an OKAY gross. IF the movie didn't star Beyonce and the budget wasn't...OUCH, 80 million. 2 million dollars of profit for a movie starring your "Star" Beyonce, playing....wait for it...a singer.

By Hollywood accounting standards, a movie does not make a profit until its box office grosses exceed 2.5 x its production costs

An $80 million movie needs to gross $200 million before it is considered profitable

[james1200]

thanks to all you hyper-critical bitches, things have gotten bad for beyonce and she has to find new ways to please her fans going into watch "dreamgirls".

[tavares]

thanks to all you hyper-critical bitches, things have gotten bad for beyonce and she has to find new ways to please her fans going into watch "dreamgirls".

Seems about right. She looks like a blow up doll most of the time, anyway.

[xyboyms]

thanks to all you hyper-critical bitches, things have gotten bad for beyonce and she has to find new ways to please her fans going into watch "dreamgirls".

Is that how she got her manager to make her the lead of DC????

[james1200]

Is that how she got her manager to make her the lead of DC????

uh...you mean her father? lordy lord lord xy...now you're accusing her of blowing her own dad?

[xyboyms]

It was either me or Tavares! Someone had to do the dirty deed so I decided to give one for the team! (Hey that rhymed!)

[tavares]

thanks to all you hyper-critical bitches, things have gotten bad for beyonce and she has to find new ways to please her fans going into watch "dreamgirls".

Is that how she got her manager to make her the lead of DC????

uh...you mean her father? lordy lord lord xy...now you're accusing her of blowing her own dad?

It was either me or Tavares! Someone had to do the dirty deed so I decided to give one for the team! (Hey that rhymed!)

And I'm glad you did, because me envisioning LaWeave blowing her creepy father really is -- hold on... I just went blank.

[TierraSimms]

And I'm glad you did, because me envisioning LaWeave blowing her creepy father really is -- hold on... I just went blank.

THAT.
IS.
DISTRUBING. (*U*)

[MorrisseyX]

Actually I heard about some British article saying Beyonce makes the most money and that is NOT true. Halle Berry is indeed the top black actress in Hollywood. The Hollywood reporter just released their big issue and Halle makes $14 million and up for her movies. Beyonce may be geting big cash but its just for this movie. Its not her standard rate. Halle Berry's standard rate is $14 million. Some stars rates go up and down. But Halle makes more in movies then Beyonce.

[tavares]

Halle Berry has an Emmy and an Oscar attached to her acting credentials, so of course she'd have a higher initial asking rate. I don't know why people think Beyonce's overexposure = a right to command a high salary.

She may have made movies, but all her roles are supporting. She has NOT carried a single movie for ANY studio to take a risk and pay her Halle Berry quality money. She's window dressing. She's the display that gets you into the store to buy OTHER merchandise.

I mean, Paramount is trying their best to push Beyonce, but sometimes it's laughable.

"Academy Award winner, Jamie Foxx... Golden Globe nominee, Eddie Murphy..." and then they trot out "and Grammy Winner, Beyonce Knowles, in... DREAMGIRLS!"

Shit, even Anika Noni Rose who plays Lorelle is a damn Tony Award nominee if not winner.

Three people in this cast have gotten industry credited ACTING recognition, and then here come this bitch with her music accolades. LMAO!!

What's next?

"Academy Award winner, Meryl Streep... Golden Globe winner, Teri Hatcher... and Pillsbury Cookoff Silver Ribbon Winner, Ruth Finklestein..."

Oh, please.

[MorrisseyX]

Its true that Beyonce hasn't proven herself as an actress. But maybe this movie will raise her profile in Hollywood? I think that's what her management is hoping for that Beyonce's performance in Dreamgirls will make her be taken more seriously as an actress? One thing I notice about Beyonce too many of her movies involve her singing. She needs to step away from that actually do a film or movies with NO singing and a really dark dramatic role. If She can do that maybe she will have a career. But I think Dreamgirls is a step in the right direction.

I mean what are Kelly Rowland and Michelle Williams doing? I hear those two are actually still managed by Beyonce's father. Don't those girls realize Mr. Knowles will not give them the attention their careers deserve? I think they are wasting their time with him he's clealry focused on his daughter alone. And hear's something else I read a British article where Beyonce is getting a serious cut from the Dreamgirls CD soundtrack. Mr. Knowles once again a very smart man. Beyonce will be getting I heard between 16 or 17% royalties from the Dreamgirls Soundtrack. Now that's a very high royalty rate for a soundtrack.

[mrblaque]

}Y does some of u love to hate a lot , and see the bad side only, every artist have pro's and cons, ups and downs, if a machine stops from a long work , and so as a human being, thats why sometimes they messed up. Plus u dont know what theyve been thru, the hard works they had just to be where they are right now, singing in early age, joining contests, winning n losing, fucking long auditon lines, rejection . Some of u talk as if they can do what this artists are doing, can u stand on stage infront of many people? sing? dance? have a speech or just talk? have u?, u dont see the efforts their exerting, all u do is hate n compare. }Some will hate Beyonce coz they like Jennifer better, then hate Jennifer coz their a Beyonce fan, if u like someone better then dont hate on the other, was lookin on the other thread n saw some people that hate Beyonce n talk shit about her coz she is compared to Rihanna n they like her better, this is immature , u dont need to hate a certain person just bcoz this person is compared to d 1 u like, its like talkin shit n hating on a present bf of an ex bf bcoz u still have a feeling for ur ex even tho that present bf of ur ex has nothing to do with your past( this is another story tho), some hate the artist liked by the person they hate, always contradicts what the person they hate says. This is what ive just noticed, and its disappointing }Were talking about Dream Girls then a Mariah Carey fan pops out then praise Mariah, i got a question, what happend to her movie GLITTER? , see, some are self centered here, they only look on 1 side, although i have nothing against her n i like her too so much. Its funny how some of u reacts so serious in to things n buzz like this when this things are made just for publicity, exposure and basically advertise the movie, in short gimmick, anywho i still love ya'll gay friends

[xyboyms]

So I just got my new January issue of Vanity Fair in the mail and lo and behold! It's the cast of Dreamgirls on the cover! Well, it's Eddie, Jamie & LaWeave. Where are the other two women??
I looked inside and found one shitty little picture of Annika & Jennifer and not one, not two, but THREE pics of Weave all by herself with inspiring quotes like "No one wanted Beyonce Ross. I had to become someone totally different" and "I really had to hold back my voice. I had to whisper things."
I'll get back to you when I'm done reading the entire article. I'm sure Weave's lover......I mean father/manager(fathager???).....got a hold of the editors of the high profile magazine and threatened not to have Miss B on the cover if they include the less-talented old cow Jennifer as well.

[james1200]

honestly, would you rather see beyonce's perfect, superstar face or that thing that resembles a smelly pig on the cover? and i'm being unkind to pigs i know. personally, i would rather not see jennifer fatson rolling around in mud on the cover of vanity fair. but that's just me.

[tavares]

Beyonce is a low rent Tyra Banks -- always making it seem like she's doing things that are just humanly impossible over and over again. Tyra Banks goes around acting like modeling is the most complicated profession in the world, second only to rocket science. Beyonce's going around acting like upstaging and oversinging and wearing weaves and make up is a totally superhuman thing to do and she's one of God's chosen ones to be able to pull off such a spectacular task.

Get. Over. It... BITCH!

Beyonce can deny it all she wants, and James can go around calling Jennifer all kinds of homophobes and pigs and cows -- but it still doesn't change the fact that Beyonce is playing HERSELF in this fucking movie. She's only denying it soooooo hard because it's completely obvious!

Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if Bill Condon had her in mind for the role all throughout his writing the screenplay adaptation BECAUSE of the fact that Beyonce and DC is exactly the same thing as Diana and the Supremes and Deena and the Dreams.

[joejoesmoe]

http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com...eywigthumb.jpg

I mean, come the fuck on...

[youdontknow]

link isn't working my good man

[danilicious]

link aint workin

[squarehippies]

Hahaha that is hilarious. At least cover the hairline. Jeez.

[IBFree-Key]

Hey, leave B alone!

[amwriter]

What is that?

[torontoguy22]

Ya, what is that? Looks like some mutant skin or something.

*For those of you who have trouble opening it, copy the link and post it in your browser*

[xyboyms]

So I finished the article the other night and it was very well written (of course, it's Vanity Fair!) and I was glad that the main focus of the piece was Bill Condon and how he had to jump through hoops to get the film produced finally getting a meeting with Mr. David Geffen himself (in his lush Beverly Hills pad-no mention of any hottie pool boys or anything LOL).
As far at the actors, of course Weave got most of the attention; the article talked mainly about her preparing for the role and even how Bill wasn't sure she could tone it down for Deena.
Unfortunately there was no mention of the stunning Anika Rose. It's funny how we're all debating whether B or Jennifer is getting the attention meanwhile Ms. Tony Award winner Anika didn't even get mentioned in the entire article.
I talked with a friend the other day and they asked "Who's the other girl in the cast???" and I honestly couldn't say anything......any-who.....

[MorrisseyX]

The movie is clearly a vehicle for Beyonce's career. Of course Deena Jones role was for Beyonce. I read Entertainment Weekly and in the article Beyonce's management told Condon and the studio to only allow Beyonce audition for the role. Its clear to me the role was for Beyonce. Dreamgirls needed a young African American star a very big star to get the world press interested. No offence to Eddie Murphy and Jamie Foxx but no one cares for them. People aren't going to see those two guys in this movie. Even though both Foxx and Murphy have serious atttiude problems. They are just not the stars of this. Beyonce is the star that will draw the public into the theatres. But Jennifer Hudson will shine in her role as Effie. Jennifer Hudson I hope just realizes she has to take all the opportunities she can get. I hear she's thinking about doing an album. Why do that? Why not do some more movies? The money is in the movies not music. To be fair no one would care about this movie if Beyonce was in it. Can you see Alicia Keys or Raven in the Deena Jones role? I can't. Both Raven and Alicia are attractive but they don't have that steamy sexuality that Beyonce has. We are gay men but let me tell you straight men are really hot for Beyonce. My brother loves her to death. Men just go crazy for her its the truth. So Beyonce has a very large fanbase of both women and men fans.