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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    forget mackay, I'm in love with RONAN. mmmmmmmhhhhhhmmmm!!!!!!! Sexy!!!!

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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Luka View Post
    forget mackay, I'm in love with RONAN. mmmmmmmhhhhhhmmmm!!!!!!! Sexy!!!!
    Again, there will be no Rodney bashing here! As i love him, and i started the thread! So teehee!

    Yea, but Ronon's dreads are so.. manbearpigish... and yucky. Now if we could get him a nice cleancut look going, then yea, he'd be ok. He'll never be as cute as Rodney though, hehe.
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    OH MAN! I can not wait. Thanks for the updates and keep them coming.

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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
    OH MAN! I can not wait. Thanks for the updates and keep them coming.
    No problem mikey! And welcome to the thread! Post as often as you like, please. We're trying to drum up a little Stargate community here!

    I consider myself pretty knowledgable about the new season, there's a lot of stuff in my head that i know i've read somewhere, but don't know where, and what not, so haven't posted it. So if ANYONE has questions off the top of their head, that they might want to know about the new season, ask away, i may actually know the answer. And if i don't, i know how to contact... certain people... who are intimately involved with the making of the show (yea i'm special... Actually not that much, but i can ask questions of certain people, doesn't mean i'd get answers though... Obviously some spoilers will always be secret until episodes air, and no, i don't know any SUPER SECRET spoilers or anything like that).
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    And so, because i can, i choose to make my 1,500th post, in the Stargate Atlantis thread.

    Stargate Atlantis rocks!

    Rodney McKay is so cute!

    I love David Hewlett!

    That is all...
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    thanks for this thread, it rocks,

    could you describe how you decided Sheppard is in the closet? and the signs of a "textbook" case as you said?? im astonished and am just interested in knowing how you know/figured it out. thanks.
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by wanderer View Post
    thanks for this thread, it rocks,

    could you describe how you decided Sheppard is in the closet? and the signs of a "textbook" case as you said?? im astonished and am just interested in knowing how you know/figured it out. thanks.
    Heya, no problem, like i said, stick around!

    So, i guess i should say i didn't mean to say that the Sheppard character "IS" gay, in fact i'm sure the producers of the show intend the exact opposite. As for the textbook line, that's kinda hard to say, b/c there's really no textbook case as we all know. I'm just used to having to explain to straight people why i think he's gay, so that's where the "textbook" line came from.

    Anyways, as to why i think Shep is in the closet, from the very first episode my gaydar was pinging all over the place with him! The frequent inexperience with sexual situations was a first good tip. His frequent references to "not knowing what to do when these things come up", or "never seeing something like this coming".

    Then there's his obvious internal attraction to Rodney, which he masks with jokes and picking on him. And then there are his mannerisms, he's always been very shy, especially around women, not to mention he can be very animated. Just kinda look for it, you'll see some of those gaydar pings i'm talking about. Oh, and of course there's the "manly" overcompensation when interacting with other men.

    A lot of it comes from Joe Flanigan himself (the actor) i happen to wonder if he might be in the closet as well. Just a hunch on my part, even though he's married and has kids. I have absolutely no proof of course, and would never say "he is", but it's just a suspicion. But as for the sheppard character? I think he's gay. Was he meant to be by the show's producers? No. Do they see it that way? Probably not. But i do, and so do a lot of other fans .

    As for Rodney, he's at least bi... just because i want him to be. Plus, he really does look up to Shep so much, tries to hide it though. Best Buddies . They make the best lovers . He's so insecure though (Rodney), i'm just waiting for Sheppard to you know, build him up a little. It would help if he just admitted he loved him!

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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Thats very interesting indeed. That is a very nice picture of Sheppard.

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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Even though it's not officially Stargate Atlantis Season 4 news, it is Stargate news, and thus i think worthy of posting about, since some of you guy may not know it's available.

    STARGATE SG-1: THE COMPLETE SERIES COLLECTION


    Available October 9, 2007 (Region 1)


    This 54-Disc set includes all Ten seasons of Stargate SG-1 on 50 discs, with the original bonus features from each of the season box sets. In addition, it contains 4 discs of new, never-before-released bonus materials, composed of various featurettes that, for one reason or another, were not included in the original season box set releases, as well as all of the SCI FI Channel Specials produced for airing in the United States:



    Discs 1-5: Stargate SG-1: Season 1

    Featurette with Cast and Crew
    Promotional Trailers
    "Profile on General Hammond" Featurette
    "Profile on Captain Carter" Featurette
    Behind the Scenes with the Producers of Stargate SG-1
    Stargate SG-1 Costume Design Featurette


    Discs 6-10: Stargate SG-1: Season 2

    Promotional Trailers for every episode
    Production Design Featurette
    "Profile on Dr. Jackson" Featurette
    "Profile on Teal'c" Featurette


    Discs 11-15: Stargate SG-1: Season 3

    3 "Secret File fo the SGC" featurettes.


    Discs 16-20: Stargate SG-1: Season 4

    Audio Commentary for Each Episode
    Secret Files Of The SGC: Enhanced Visual Effects
    Secret Files Of The SGC: Alien Species - Friend & Foe
    Stargate SG-1: Timeline to the Future - Legacy of the Gate


    Discs 21-25: Stargate SG-1: Season 5

    Commentary on every episode featuring cast and crew
    Photo Galleries
    SG-1 Video Diary With Amanda Tapping
    SG-1 Video Diary With Christopher Judge
    SG-1 Video Diary With Michael Shanks
    "Inside the Tomb" featurette
    "Dr. Daniel Jackson - A Tribute" featurette


    Discs 26-30: Stargate SG-1: Season 6

    Audio Commentaries Featuring Directors, Cast and Crew for Each Episode
    SG-1 Directors Series: Redemption Featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: Descent Featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: Frozen Featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: Nightwalkers Featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: Abyss Featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: Shadow Play Featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: The Other Guys Featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: Allegiance Featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: Cure Featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: Prometheus Featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: Metamorphosis Featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: Full Circle Featurette


    Discs 31-35: Stargate SG-1: Season 7

    Audio Commentaries For Each Episode
    Beyond The Gate Series Featurette
    SG-1 Director's Series Featurette


    Discs 36-40: Stargate SG-1: Season 8

    Audio Commentaries
    Beyond the Gate Series
    Photo Gallery
    SG-1 Directors Series - "Avatar"
    SG-1 Directors Series - "Covenant"
    Super Soldier: The Making of a Monster Featurette
    SG-1 Director's Series - "Reckoning"


    Discs 41-45: Stargate SG-1: Season 9

    Commentary on every episode
    It Takes A Crew To Raise A Village Featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Avalon" featuring Andy Mikita
    Inside the Stargate Props Department featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: "The Powers That Be" featuring William Waring.
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Prototype" featuring Peter Deluise
    Inside The Stargate SG-1 Special Effects Department featurette
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Ethon" featuring Ken Girotti
    Stargate SG-1: An Introduction to Ben Browder
    Profile On: Brad Wright
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Crusade" featuring Robert Cooper
    Photo Gallery
    Production Design Gallery


    Discs 46-50: Stargate SG-1: Season 10

    Commentary for Each Episode
    SG-1 Directories Series: "Insiders" Featuring Peter F. Woeste
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Momento Mori" Featuring Peter DeLuise
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Company of Thieves" featuring William Waring
    SG-1 Directors Series: "The Shroud" Featuring Andy Mikita
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Unending" featuring Robert C. Cooper
    The Ori: A New Enemy
    Stargate SG-1: Behind the 200th
    Setting the Mood with im Menard
    Life as a Tech with Gary Jones
    Deleted Scenes with an Introduction by Joseph Mallozzi
    Photo Galleries
    Production Design Gallery


    Disc 51:

    Stargate: The Ark of Truth Promo
    Stargate: Continuum Promo
    SCI FI Channel Special: Stargate SG-1: The Lowdown (Season Seven)
    SCI FI Channel Special: From Stargate to Atlantis: The Lowdown (SG-1 Season Eight & Atlantis Season One)
    SCI FI Channel Special: Behind the Stargate: Secrets Revealed (SG-1 Season Eight & Atlantis Season One)


    Disc 52:

    SCI FI Channel Special: Sci Fi Inside: Stargate SG-1's 200th Episode (Season Ten)
    SCI FI Channel Special: Behind the Mythology of Stargate SG-1
    SCI FI Channel Special: Stargate SG-1: True Science


    Disc 53:

    Season Three:
    Timeline to the Future Part 1: Legacy of the Gate
    Timeline to the Future Part 2: "Secrets of the Gate"
    Timeline to the Future Part 3: "Beyond the Gate"
    Season Four:
    SG-1 Video Diary: Teryl Rothery
    Season Five:
    Stargate SG-1 Season 5: Gateway to Adventure
    Stargate SG-1: The 100th Episode
    SG-1 Video Diary: Don S. Davis
    Season Six:
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Smoke and Mirrors"
    SG-1 Directors Series: "The Changeling"
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Memento"
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Prophecy"
    SG-1 Video Diary: Richard Dean Anderson, "Paradise Lost"


    Disc 54:

    Season Seven:
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Revisions"
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Heroes"
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Resurrection"
    Behind the Scenes: Journey Inside 'Lost City'
    The Storyboard Process
    Bra'tac vs. Ronan: Designing the Fight ("Lost City")
    Stargate Magic: Inside the Lab
    Richard Dean Anderson: "My Life as a Mime"
    Season Eight:
    "Beyond the Gate: A Convention Experience with Amanda Tapping"
    "Beyond the Gate: A Convention Experience with Michael Shanks"
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Threads"
    Profile On: Joseph Mallozzi and Paul Mullie
    The Last Day of Teal'c
    SG-1 Directors Series: "Moebius"
    "Stargate SG-1: The Alliance: The Making of The Video Game"
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Behind the Scenes and Production Photos:

    August 22, 2007:




    August 24, 2007:



    August 26, 2007:



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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    August 28, 2007:



    August 29, 2007:




    August 30, 2007:

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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    NEW - Behind the Scenes Video Clips:


    August 27, 2007:

    Greetings from the set


    August 30, 2007:

    A Cry For Help


    August 31, 2007:

    Light 'er up!

    (You'll need to copy and paste the links into a new browser window or tab because the videos are hosted at photobucket.)
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    AAAAAAAAnd.......... Silence......
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    the box set looks cool will have to grab it when it comes out here

    although i am a little dissapointed that Stargate SG1 I mean Atlantis appears to be having sg1 a bit too much hopefully it works but i dont want Stargate SG1 live from the Pegasus Galaxy

    The Cake is a LIE!!!

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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    >>UPDATE<<

    Updated the initial post to include the newly released title of the season finale, The Last Man,which will air March 7th, 2008 in the United States.

    Special thanks to springboksfan for the post edit.
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Iv just watched some of the clips for Atlantis S4, cant wait for the whole eps

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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    I like Atlantis, it's what got me started watching SG-1. I didn't really watch before that. then it went and got canceled. I have seasons 1-5 of sg-1 on the computer and 5-10 on DVD. i haven't gotten caught up with season 3 of Atlantis because i cut my expanded cable back about a year ago, and lost scifi channel. so...i'll have to just be a season behind or download them. not sure which i'll do, probably just wait and buy them. right now they are just a bit high at 44 bucks a season at best buy. i'm hoping wal mart will have them soon.

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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    I hope everyone in the U.S. went out and bought their Atlantis Season 3 box sets and David Hewlett's A Dog's Breakfast today! I know i did! *looks at DVD wall*


    And now for the ... While the season 3 set has commentaries for 19 of the 20 episodes, none of the actors are in any of the commentaries this season , what a disappointment. I look forward to actor commentaries the most... I hope they don't continue this trend.
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by noelie View Post
    Yay I watched S04E01. It was really weird having no sound effects or music - makes me realise how hard acting must be.

    I have to say it wasn't bad but not great (the SFX were brilliant though) but I can't wait to see S04E02 cos there's some big stuff happening in it

    I think I'll wait for one with all the sound though
    NO Spoilers PLEASE!!

    And Don't get me started on that... I hate the fact they were leaked, pisses me off really. Not only did people get to see it before the premiere (meaning less people will actually watch it on TV), but they got the crappy prescreen versions. WTF was SCIFI thinking including those in their press releases!??!! UGH!!!

    And just as a note, i haven't downloaded them, nor do i intend to, i don't want to ruin the season premiere by watching those versions, nor do i want to detract even more from the viewing audience the show depends on to function. No watchy live on TV = No more show.
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by mike_n_herrin View Post
    so...i'll have to just be a season behind or download them. not sure which i'll do, probably just wait and buy them. right now they are just a bit high at 44 bucks a season at best buy. i'm hoping wal mart will have them soon.

    Err, you know Season 3 came out on DVD today? It's $34.99 at Best Buy, and $32.99 on Amazon.com. Someone needs to read the first post in this thread!
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by noelie View Post
    C'mon c'mon share the joy - rip it into avi and mp4 format and upload it to Rapidshare and onto Demonoid
    Sorry Noels! You know i love ya ! But I think you and i differ on our views of torrents here. People may call it a double standard on my part, and i'm actually fine with that, because in a way it is. But if it's a show i REALLY like, and support, and especially if it's in trouble, i can't support putting torrents up of it. If you really like the show, i belive you should buy the DVDs to help support it.

    Now let me say, i don't have a problem with torrents. I don't think it's bad if you want to use them to check out a show and see if you like it, or if you want to have it on your computer. But i do belive people should support the shows they like, and help them continue to be produced by tuning in every week on TV, and buying the DVDs, otherwise there's no reason for studios to make the shows we love.

    And i vehemently distain leaking episodes with torrents before the episode has aired on TV. I have no problem if people put them up after they've aired, but before? That's not cool with me.

    Ok, so now that that rant is over...

    The DVDs are pretty cool. They reused the menuy design from the season 2 dvd's, but shifted the overall color hue to green instead of blue, and of course they have new cutscenes in the menus. The discs are printed nicely, but they seemed to have tried to cut some $$$ by not printing anything for the inside of the DVD cases like they did for seasons 1 and 2. The Digital transfers are flawless that i've seen thusfar, and the sound is supurb. I'm only dissapointed that the actors aren't in any of the episode commentaries this year, i love hearing their takes on what went on when they were filming the episodes.

    Here are a few screenshots of the DVD menues and such (which are animated):









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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by noelie View Post
    I understand and respect your position proven - you know that I hope. I was just razzing you

    Those screen caps look fantastic - they'd make great wallpapers and screensavers. I've found it very hard to get really good scifi wallpapers and screensavers (for free).
    Oh No, i know you were razzing me , i was just putting my view out there, i know your opinion, you know mine, and we respect each other's views .

    What is your screen res? Speaking of wallpapers...
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    Stargate Atlantis: Season 4

    5 DAYS AND COUNTING, BE SURE TO TUNE IN THIS FRIDAY AT 10PM EASTERN/PACIFIC, 9PM CENTRAL ON THE SCIFI CHANNEL IN THE U.S.!
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    Stargate Atlantis: Season 4

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    Stargate Atlantis: Season 4

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    Stargate Atlantis: Season 4

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    STARGATE ATLANTIS: SEASON 4

    12 HOURS AND COUNTING!!!. BE SURE TO TUNE IN TODAY AT 10PM EASTERN/PACIFIC, 9PM CENTRAL ON THE SCIFI CHANNEL IN THE U.S.!


    WATCH IT LIVE! NO DVRs OR TIVOs!
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    STARGATE ATLANTIS: SEASON 4

    6 HOURS AND COUNTING!!!. BE SURE TO TUNE IN TODAY AT 10PM EASTERN/PACIFIC, 9PM CENTRAL ON THE SCIFI CHANNEL IN THE U.S.!


    In anticipation of tonight's fourth season premiere of Stargate Atlantis, Yahoo! TV has released a brand new preview video.

    The video features clips from tonight's "Adrift," and original interview snippets from actors David Hewlett ("Rodney McKay") and Rachel Luttrell ("Teyla"), as well as executive producers Paul Mullie and Joseph Mallozzi.

    "It's definitely been a season of change," Hewlett says, "and it's really interesting to see how those changes have affected the way we work together -- or the way we don't work together, as the case may be!"

    The video looks at the addition of Amanda Tapping and Jewel Staite to the show, the new and darker direction for Teyla, the addition of a new race, and the return of Dr. Carson Beckett.

    Visit Yahoo! TV to see the video, and watch out for a few spoilers for what's to come.

    Season Four of Stargate Atlantis premieres tonight at 10 p.m. Eastern and Pacific (9 p.m. Central) on SCI FI Channel in the United States!
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Just watched it again, UBER COOL! Next week, Lifeline is going to break the bank! Up for a heist!? Hell yes we are! I loved the action, the CGI was great (though there could be some better modeling on the city... seems they didn't use Rainmaker's model... but i nitpick (is my line of work after all)), and the character moments, oh the character moments, so good. Great episode, next weeks will be even better! I'm interested to see where they go with RepliWeir.

    OH! And Rodney FINALLY called Sheppard 'John' for the first time in 4 years! And said 'i'm sorry' too! How cute is Rodney!?
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    Thanks for the info! Love the pics! I always had & still have a thing for Sheppard & Beckett. Love Carson & John. Now that Carson was wrongfully killed off, I don't watch anymore. I might try to watch again.


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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Well you missed the best premiere ever tonight!! Why weren't you watching!?

    Carson will be back this season, i hope you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noelie View Post
    ^ OMG this really is a spoiler thread. RepliWeir? Beckett coming back?

    WTF - I'm glad I downloaded it and watched it before you told me all about it

    (any justification I can find for 'borrowing' TV from the innerweb I'll use )
    LoL it does say open spoilers , only condition is that spoilers should be avoided until after the show first airs (aside from the ones in the initial post), now that Adrift aired, it's fair game!

    Well Beckett's not back until the end of the season, but that's common knowledge. But RepliWeir! Can't wait to see where this goes. If you watched the crappy pre-screen version of Adrift, man you did yourself an injustice! The Music and Sound Effects were GRRRRRRREAT!
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    My guess is after being captured on the replicator planet, Weir works out a truce and an alliance, stays behind as an ambassador, the replicators repair Atlantis and supply them with all the ZPMs they need, and Atlantis returns to the planet they were originally on. This maybe a result of Rodney messing with the replicator code, or Weir's already altered nanites, or more likely, none of the above. I'm just happy it's back!

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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    I dunno, actually i'm envisioning Weir sacrificing herself to buy time for the team to escape. And the replicators, not wanting to kill her, as she is part replicator, they keep her... Until the mid-season finale .
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    yeah i got season 3 on dvd and was dissapointed by the no actors on the commentaries

    ep 1 was pretty good but i dont really like how they have done the 3 part episode thing a double episode would have been nice but cliff hanger after cliff hanger gives me the shits

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    I dunno, actually i'm envisioning Weir sacrificing herself to buy time for the team to escape. And the replicators, not wanting to kill her, as she is part replicator, they keep her... Until the mid-season finale
    That's even better. She could come back as some evil, pregnant turncoat, with tenticles or something. The new queen of the replicators leading a rebuilt armada against Earth.

    but i dont really like how they have done the 3 part episode thing a double episode would have been nice but cliff hanger after cliff hanger gives me the shits
    Agreed. There's enough there for a movie instead of the 3 parter. Oh well. I'll just have to wait for season 4 to come out on DVD and splice my own movie together.

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    Sooo, the ratings for the season premiere, "Adrift" were pretty bad. It scored a 1.2, the lowest ever for a premiere. It appears that Atlantis is the most DVR'ed (and downloaded) show on the SCIFI channel, the most DVR'ed network in the U.S.. Thus it's not getting the live viewers necessary to get good ratings numbers.

    With the show's renewal for a 5th season on the line, this is pretty bad news. The latter half of season 3 held some of the lowest ratings ever for Atlantis, and it looks as though that trend is continuing. SCIFI's decision on whether or not to renew Atlantis for a 5th season will be based on the latter half of season 3, and the first few episodes of season 4.

    Ratings from other countries besides the U.S. have no impact on SCIFI's decision to renew or not, as U.S. viewership is what determines ratings, which in turn determine what SCIFI can charge advertisers, which is how they make their money. If a show costs more than it's anticipated revenue from advertisers, there's no reason to keep it.
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    is it still like that, that it is out in canada a bit before it gets aired in the us? then you shouldn't wonder if it is the most downloaded show
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    Quote Originally Posted by noelie View Post
    I wouldn't lose hope over low ratings/viewers for episode one.

    People are still adjusting to the end of the summer and returning to/starting college/school etc. (at least that's the way it goes here).

    If I were living in the States I'd definitely be tuning in for episode two and every one after that.

    The only problem is that SCIFI only has a VERY few episodes to go on before they HAVE to make their decision. They're going to make it before the end of the month, they have to if theres going to be another season because the production team has to get started by next month. So SCIFI will only have the last half of season 3, and MAYBE 4 episodes of this season to go on, if they wait that long.

    What REALLY angers me is that a lot of "former fans" on a certain other stargate message board, fans that aren't happy about a certain character leaving and another coming on board this year, are openly elated at the low ratings, rubbing it in everyone's faces and heralding it as the end of Atlantis, and they're happy about it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Corny View Post
    is it still like that, that it is out in canada a bit before it gets aired in the us? then you shouldn't wonder if it is the most downloaded show
    No No, it's not like that any more. It's airing in the U.S. before anywhere else now. Except of course for the episodes that were leaked online weeks beforehand because SCIFI included pre-air copies in their press junkets and people stole them and put them online.
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Just wanted to pass along a bit of good news to everyone.

    David Hewlett (Dr. Rodney McKay) and fiance' Jane just welcomed into the world their first son, Sebastian Flynn Hewlett, 9 pounds 4 ounces. Mum and son are doing well.

    Congratulations to David, Jane, and little Sebastion!

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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    Old news, . I wonder why i didn't mention it here?

    It happened like, over a week ago. Stupid iTunes motherf*ckers. Another episode that won't get ratings because it was leaked.
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    Re: Stargate Atlantis: Season 4 (Open Spoilers)

    I like the new look and feel too. I just hope it's not going to be their last season. Should find out in the next 2 weeks. I'm worried.
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    Don't feel bad because of low ratings. A lot of people who love scifi, like me, just keep missing episodes. I got all hyped up for the season premiere of Atlantis only to miss it [I]and[I] the next episode because I kept forgetting to set the DVR for record. So I'm forced to get the episodes via bittorrent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martkell2007 View Post
    Don't feel bad because of low ratings. A lot of people who love scifi, like me, just keep missing episodes. I got all hyped up for the season premiere of Atlantis only to miss it [I]and[I] the next episode because I kept forgetting to set the DVR for record. So I'm forced to get the episodes via bittorrent.
    Well see that's the problem. The more people that miss the episodes the lower the ratings. And DVRing doesn't count in the ratings (well there's a debate, i'll get to that). So what happens is people DVR it, or Download it, and don't get counted as having watched it. Thus it doesn't get a good rating, i.e. 1.2.

    So advertisers LIVE by that rating number. It determines if they're willing to pay top dollar to run ads during the show's time slot. If they aren't, SCIFI has no way of recouping the money spent on the show, much less make a profit. And if they can't do that, they have no reason to keep the show, so they'll cut it. And like i said, unfortunately DVR viewership doesn't count, BitTorrent's don't count, any viewers outside of the U.S. don't count, and iTunes and Amazon downloads don't count, neither do DVD sales.

    So if SCIFI doesn't order a 5th season, that's it, game over, and they've made it quite clear that that decision will be based on the ratings of season 3.5 (which were poor) and the ratings they get from the first 2-4 episodes of season 4. They'll make their decision before the end of this month.

    Now, do DVRs really count? Yes and no. This is the first season ever that Neilson (the ratings counters) are factoring DVRs. They are releasing 3 different ratings per episode. Live, Live + 3 Day, and Live + 7 Day. The Live ratings, as always, are available a few days after the airing. However, the DVR ratings take over 3-4 weeks to tabulate. And to the good part, advertisers don't really care about anything but the live ratings. Why? Because you can FF thru commercials with a DVR. So the industry goes by the live numbers still.

    To put it in perspective, the pilot of Atlantis made a 3.7 (5+ million viewers), the season premiere of season 4 made a 1.2 (1.7 million viewers), that's a 68% loss in 4 years. On the same note, last year's premiere made a 1.7, so that's a 30% loss in just 1 year.

    So you can see why i'm worried.
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    Tonites episode was really good, I like Ronan heavy episodes, wink wink. I liked the Carter- Ronan scenes aswell, I think that it was important for them to have a strong opening scene between them.

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    And DVRing doesn't count in the ratings (well there's a debate, i'll get to that). So what happens is people DVR it, or Download it, and don't get counted as having watched it. Thus it doesn't get a good rating, i.e. 1.2.
    So every time I record my shows to watch them, which I do for all my favorite shows, my view isn't counted? Sci-fi lovers are most likely tech-savvy, meaning they'll use tech like DVR. So they should find a way to count DVR esp with sci-fi. I don't know anyone who loves shows like star gate, eureka, painkiller jane, battlestar, etc who doesn't record them on DVR to save time by skipping commercials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martkell2007 View Post
    So every time I record my shows to watch them, which I do for all my favorite shows, my view isn't counted? Sci-fi lovers are most likely tech-savvy, meaning they'll use tech like DVR. So they should find a way to count DVR esp with sci-fi. I don't know anyone who loves shows like star gate, eureka, painkiller jane, battlestar, etc who doesn't record them on DVR to save time by skipping commercials.
    Which is EXACTLY the problem. No, the DVR viewership has never been counted. This is the FIRST season in history (for all channels, not just SCIFI) that neilson is attempting to collect DVR data. However, like i said, it takes weeks and months to tabulate those results because the system for recording DVR viewership is brand new. None of the networks have gotten any DVR viewership data for any of the premieres that were several weeks ago. It may be another month before they do, and Atlantis' fate will have been decided long before that.

    And like i also said, while neilson is trying to start collecting DVR data, advertisers pay little attention to it because people do exactly what you said, skip through commercials. The entire ratings system is flawed now that DVRs are in so many households. It sux that networks are still putting so much stock in the live viewership ratings. And what sucks more is that the amount of DVRing of Atlantis is estimated to be about 16-25%. Which could offer a significant "future altering" boost in ratings. But they're not counted, as of yet, and whether they would even matter to advertisers is unknown at best.

    So there's this crappy cycle of destruction. You're right, SciFi viewers are the most tech-savvy group out there, and much more likely to DVR shows. And the more we do so, the less viewers the show is counted as having, and the less it's ratings, and the less chance it has to get renewed. Battlestar Galactica is ending after this last season because of this (it's low ratings, and no promise from SCIFI for a definite fifth season).
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