ChaosMen Update Thread

[shotglass]

The most recent vid has barebacking, anybody want to comment on it pro or con?

Personally it's not something I would do, unless I knew it was safe. But in Bryans summary he said, "If your vids. skin on skin, this will be a treat. Both want to perform that way." So you knew what was cumming. Awhile back on another site when two guys did it, where it was never been done before, the viewers were given this write up, "I was blown away, your eyes will pop out of your head like mine did, You'll have to check it out to know what I mean". Obviously we now know what was meant. But at that time there was quite an uproar. Only after that, was an explanation given that both guys were OK with doing it. To me, that's the difference. We knew ahead of time that Zeph and Mitch wanted to do it and knew the consequences. In the other vid. if that short explanation was given, we would of known that it was alright with the guys. Other sites do it, although safe sex should always be the first consideration.

BTW, I'm really looking forward to this weeks vid of Rocco getting a BJ. Hope that Rocco will be open to doing more in the future. Like Jaxon said he is one gorgeous man!

[MercuryRed96]

Guys - would like your unbiased Feedback ... I have been with CF for the last month - and have thoroughly ENJOYED every minute of it ..... I'm gonna be honest - Corin's men (especially Ryan) have done something to me ---- now, I know that thesde guys are not 100% straight - or even 1% straight - but watching CF's vids does it EVERRY time for me!!!

Now I have also discovered Chaosmen - and I see SOME of the same guys there - Kurt and Derek to name two ....

What would make Chaosmen stand out as different? I LOVE the deep0 and prolonged kissing at CF - turns me ON ! ... and also the cum eating ....

Right now I'm in a $ bind and have to wait a bit to sign back on - but when I do, give me some guidance on which direction to go --- I'd luv to be able to do both, but ..... suggestions??? Thanks in advance.

[jaxon29]

I like both sites but haven't belonged to CF for quite awhile now. As you say, the same guys show up on multiple sites and the formats are all the same. Sex on the bed, on the floor, on the sofa. It's just that a particular site and look will grab your interest and lust more than another. I will say however, that while both sites have had models you can see elsewhere, it's very few. Most are specific to that site.

I do like ChaosMen however because the short video/photo/model description seems pretty authentic and doesn't harp on the 'straight' aspect as much as CF. Bryan says his descriptions are mostly accurate and truthful except for names because he's too busy to make up a lot of stuff. I like a short description which lacks fluff and bullshit.

You already know what CF offers its members so why don't you join CM for a month and see what you think. Then you can decide. You could even switch back and forth every few months and play catch up with what you missed.

[Alpha1851]

Hey Rick. I've belonged to both CF and Chaosmen so here's my opinion.
CF
guys: The CF guys tend to all look alike. They are all generally hot, look like frat guys, and are preppy. Of course, this appeals to me b/c I'm also preppy and have always dated frat guys...at least back in my college days.

action: The action on CF is almost always the same. The guys kiss, lick each other's muscles and feet (Corbin must have a foot fetish), suck each other, then fuck. The scenes really don't vary that much at all. Also, Corbin's newest videos also haven't featured a lot of after scenes action. The action also seems more forced rather than enjoyed and spontaneous.

Chaosmen
guys: The guys really vary on this site. Some of them are country boys, some are army guys, some are preppy, some are older, some are pretty, etc. There are several that have way to many tatoos.

action: This also varies. There are "serviced" videos (passive guy getting worked over), "edge" videos (fantasy based...hard to explain), solo vids (some contain toys), oral only (both guys suck), and of course screwing videos (couldn't think of proper terminology--sorry). Some of these include bareback action. The owner/producer, Bryan, is in some of the vids and he's actually pretty hot. There are of course, tag team videos also. A lot of the scenes include out take/behind the scenes action which I always enjoy. I don't think these videos contain as much kissing as the videos on CF but I could be wrong.

I prefer Chaosmen to CF b/c the action seems more genuine and everyone appears to be having a good time. The videos just look better. I've often felt like the guys on CF looked like they were getting rapped.

Of course, others may disagree with me. Oh, and I'm a woman which may explain my reasoning and what I think is hot may not appeal to you.

[MercuryRed96]

Jaxon and Alpha .... Thanks to both of you and each of you --- your comments are well-taken and well spoken - I appreciate your candor and your honesty - I certainly will try both ... when the wallet allows ... I've read over the "specs" on membership - CM is $ 5 cheaper with recuring membership ---- question - is the "quality" on the downloads equal?? Corbin's high resolution on the more recent downloads is superb and full-screen - how does CM compare? Just curious ...

Thanks again!

[beekman001]

Jaxon and Alpha .... Thanks to both of you and each of you --- your comments are well-taken and well spoken - I appreciate your candor and your honesty - I certainly will try both ... when the wallet allows ... I've read over the "specs" on membership - CM is $ 5 cheaper with recuring membership ---- question - is the "quality" on the downloads equal?? Corbin's high resolution on the more recent downloads is superb and full-screen - how does CM compare? Just curious ...

Thanks again!

The Hi-Def videos @ CM are as good as the ones at CF. The older videos @ CM look better to me, probably cause the guy had a better camera. one thing I've noticed about CM is that he doesnt seem to be using DRM.

[jaxon29]

As alphalaw pointed out, the men on CM really vary and for that reason, I think I do prefer that site. Something for everyone. Usually I like the guys, but if not, there's always next week and you don't have the cookie cutter look going on. I'm attracted to hot men and not any one type, so I like a little variety.

[shotglass]

Rick, I would echo everything that alphalaw, Jaxon and Beekman have said.
As someone who has belonged to both sites several times, at this time I believe ChaosMen gives you more bang for your buck. You mentioned that it costs $5.00 less with a recurring memership. If you join, after 3 months the cost will be reduced by another 2.00. And as Jaxon said, you could always go back and join CF and catch up on past vids. that you've missed. That's where I'm at right now. I haven't been a member of CF for over two months now, and quite honestly the videos that I've missed that I would of liked to see could be counted on one hand.
CF is going through a period where something is missing in my opinion, that kept me as a member for several years. Like you, money is reason as to who I am a member of at this time. ChaosMen has been a hidden site for sometime. By starting this thread with others encouragement, I think more people are beginning to see that there are alternatives to what currently is out there.
The "egde" and "serviced" series of videos gives you a look as if in the third person.
CM has a new guy named Rocco, who is absolutley stunning. And he will be making his first BJ video very soon.
Good Luck with your decision!

[dannybye]

Chaos Men is a great site but I dont care for the guys in the latest video. Too many tatoos!!

[MercuryRed96]

Again - thanks to all of you for your help - and your answers ...... I have an idea on what I will do .... I'll let you know .....

[shotglass]

Davis hasn't been on CM in ages, but I guess you know or FYI if you don't, that he is also on Corbin Fisher as Derek. Hasn't been on CF for awhile either.

I keep forgetting to mention Cameron. He made several vids and is really cute, almost a "pretty boy" in the face.

Hey Jaxon, I finally got a chance to watch Cameron and Beau(have had it downloaded awhile). Cameron is one hot cutie. Although Bryan intended to have Cameron bottom, they switched positions after he took a dildo from Beau. Still he was great as a top and watching him pound Beau, one word to define his performance was "intense". He was just dripping with sweat. Gosh he his so good looking and glad he let his just enough furry chest grow out compared to his first two vids. Sure wish Bryan could get him back, he seemed to enjoy both of his encounters with Zack and Beau I know I did

[jaxon29]

That's right, I had forgotten Cameron was originally going to bottom for Beau. Ummm that would have been nice to see. He is one of those sweet, pretty guys that you want to see get fucked and hear him moan. I wonder what happened to him. Actually most of the models only do one or two vids.

[wahoo6pac]

Wayne You Need To Bottom !!!

[Alpha1851]

I totally agree that it would be hot to see Wayne bottom! I don't think it'll ever happen though. I'd actually settle for him kissing a guy or sucking some cock.

Does anyone know when the new Edge video is coming out? I totally hope that Robert is in it. Hmmm....now that I think of it, I think that Robert and Wayne should be put together. That would be interesting.

[jaxon29]

The last time I checked the Edge poll, it was a landslide for Robert, so hopefully Bryan is working on that video. Can't wait to see cutie Robert squirming.

Wayne is also a real cutie. Bryan says he came back for another video because he needed the work. Maybe he'll need some more work, although Bryan has made it clear he has to go farther. I'd love to see it, but really hate to see someone do things out of desperation that they really don't want to. He may do like some others and bounce around from site to site doing only solos. Hopefully we'll see him again.

[Alpha1851]

I' m very suprised that more JUBBERS aren't chimming in to discuss this site...

[jaxon29]

We're getting some response although it looks like the same half dozen members. I'm glad the thread got started because CM is one of my favorites. There's a lot of sites on the web but for some reason all anyone wants to talk about is Corbin Fisher and that thread has gone downhill in my opinion. On and on and on ad nauseum, just about all negative. Over the past few years, my tastes are changing more to a variety of men and not one type. A lot of things make a man hot.

[Kismet]

I do NOT like the new solo update. Yucky

[shotglass]

I' m very suprised that more JUBBERS aren't chimming in to discuss this site...

Although there haven't been a lot of posts since this thread was started on Aug. the 3rd.,
there have been 3338 hits in 20 days, that averages out to around 166 hits a day.
Jaxon pointed out that there have been around six or so doing most of the posting. But what makes this thread from CF different is there is little negativity. Most people who are satisfied in CM usually don't post, but are interested as to what is going on with CM. Like Jaxon also said that most of the posts on CF are there to complain about who is appearing or not, etc., etc., etc.
As far as Kismet's post about this weeks solo, is true in that Maverick has appeared already doing a solo. In Bryan's write-up he even says he rarely does two solo's with the same guy, but he was trying out his HD videoing and that's why this weeks solo was with Maverick again. Both solos were done back in May. He did another photoshoot of Maverick, trying out some artsy work(Bryan's words) in the shower photos. Hindsight is 20-20, but it's to bad Bryan didn't do this video with Maverick in the shower JO or do a shower scene and then go on the bed and rub one out. Then it would of been different.
I actually believe the first solo was much better than this one. And even though I believe Maverick is straight, at 6', 160 lbs., with his dark black hair and toned body I think he is one good looking guy. We'll probably never see him here again. So I'm just looking forward to Friday's post.
I also like this site because of the variety of guys that appear. In other words, something for everyone. Although I'm not a big fan of inked up guys, I guess there are some out there who do. But on some guys one or two small ones look okay. Hopefully more who are members of ChaosMen will chime in with their opinions, observations, likes or dislikes. Constructive criticism can only make the site better. And like Rick who has posted with questions about CM, only serve that there are guys/gals who might be interested in joining.

[SouthBeach30]

I love CM and have been a longtime member. I'm holding out for the Race/Adam I hear is coming up in a Sept/Oct.

I really like the video of Maverick. The fact it is in HD is a plus, but either way I would've watched it. I'd really be up for him doing a toy video or an Edge video.

One of the things I really like about CM is the photography. I think because Bryan is an artist it adds something to the photos and videos. The Edge series alone is just amazing to me. I haven't seen anything like it on another site.

[shotglass]

I love CM and have been a longtime member. I'm holding out for the Race/Adam I hear is coming up in a Sept/Oct.

I really like the video of Maverick. The fact it is in HD is a plus, but either way I would've watched it. I'd really be up for him doing a toy video or an Edge video.

One of the things I really like about CM is the photography. I think because Bryan is an artist it adds something to the photos and videos. The Edge series alone is just amazing to me. I haven't seen anything like it on another site.

Wow, Race and Adam video is coming up soon? I'm sure since you're a member, you know that the guys are half brothers, same mother. That would be hot.
They did one video together side by side JO. But they did a little bit more. Plus they goofed around and had a good time doing this video.

The edge series, like you say hasn't been done anywhere else, that I know of. I like the ones with Adam, Wayne and the cutie Andrew. Like Jaxon said, Robert is far ahead in the voting for the next guy to do an "Edge" video. Can't wait to see him squirm and moan. Hope it comes out soon.

I've always said, Bryans work as a photographer is second to none. He really captures all the good qualities of each guy he does a shoot on. And the size of the pictures are large and outstanding.

[Alpha1851]

Yeah we are up to 3 pages now. I love to hear other peoples opinions about the videos. I may skip over one b/c it doesn't appeal to me on it's face...I've often had to change my opinion though.

The Race/Adam video was very funny! I'm not into incest porn but for some reason, this one appealed to me. It was more about goofing around rather than lust for a sibling.

Does anyone else think that Bryan Ockert(am I spelling that right???) is hot? He keeps calling himself old which he really needs to stop doing. He looks amazing!

[jaxon29]

Bryan is attractive which shows you can still be hot when you're over 40. I think he puts himself down because of the younger guys that look at the site. I've seen remarks various places by young guys that seem to think you're a misfit now if you're over 30. Being attractive isn't about age.

I hadn't heard about the Adam/Race vid coming soon, but if true, I can't wait. I'll bet Bryan took some flack over the last one because people seem to find it titillating or objectionable for brothers, cousins, etc. to mess around. However, in the real world I'm sure it's more common than we think for them to j/o together and even stroke each other. Siblings share rooms and change clothes in front of each other. They surely do 'goof around' like in their video.

Maverick did good in his vid and I'm more than ready for some more Gage. Bryson needs to have an encore so we can get a good idea of his potential.

[shotglass]

Well, we get to see Rocco today. Although(mildly dis-appointed) this vid isn't a duo in the sense of fucking, Rocco gets a massage from Race. It's a shame if Rocco was going to get a massage, that Bryan didn't do it. I'm sure he would of given him a total body massage. And maybe would of used some lube or oil. We didn't really get to see Rocco's total body during the massage. I wish Race would of given a front massage from the neck and shoulders down to his pecs and chest etc.etc.etc. After he rubbed Rocco's back and beautiful butt, Rocco turned over and Race basically just massaged his dick and balls. For a friday update I guess I would of expected a little more. But as a favorite baseball manager says after his team has had a bad game, he just says, "we'll just turn the page and come back tomorrow and get em." So I too will just turn the page and wait till next week.
As a note, Bryan did say that Rocco would like to do more but he isn't into any guy/guy action yet. But he did say maybe he can get Rocco to do an "EDGE" video. Now that would be HOT to see. Then maybe we'll see more of his gorgeous body. Just my opinion.

[jaxon29]

I haven't downloaded the vid yet, just saw the pics. Sorry to hear the massage wasn't all it could have been. Yes, Bryan is no doubt more experienced on massaging and showing the good stuff than Race, although he was directing it. Perhaps Rocco is still hesitant and Bry got all he could this go round. Rocco said he would do more vids and Wayne was looking for more work. Both have potential and Bryan no doubt told them they'd have to push the enveolpe more, so hopefully they'll become more relaxed and cater to their fans. I hope, I hope.

On the CM website, there is a tab at the top that says Special. For those that don't know, you can click on that, then click on Foto Journal. There's a lot of good info about Bryan and CM on the photo blog he used to update. On the left you can click on previous years and go back through the updates. Good pics of Bryan, friends and site info.

[shotglass]

Jaxon, You're absolutley right. Bryan was there doing the video, and Rocco was probably not comfortable with Race doing anymore than he did. Although Rocco did keep saying, "Yeah, that feels good". But then who wouldn't Eh?

[RelicOTH]

Yeah, I was also a little underwhelmed by the video (sadly), although it's hard to go wrong with Rocco It also kinda irked me that he was chewing gum....

However, with that being said, it was still really hot seeing Rocco getting sucked off, especially those overhead shots where you get to see his entire body sprawled out (yay for HD widescreen!)

Hope there's more Rocco to come

[Shain2003]

Cool, Thanks!

[perigrine]

Bryan is attractive which shows you can still be hot when you're over 40..

As someone who is over forty and not attractive, I would call him "one of the lucky ones".

[Alpha1851]

As someone who is over forty and not attractive, I would call him "one of the lucky ones".

No way. I'm certain that you're a hottie! Life get's much better as you get older--I'm my opininion anyway.

The update was a little weak--No one bats a thousand though.

Race seems to do better when he's paired with a younger guy. His video with Andrew was very, very hot!

I'm ready for the new Edge video!!!

[shotglass]

On the CM website, there is a tab at the top that says Special. For those that don't know, you can click on that, then click on Foto Journal. There's a lot of good info about Bryan and CM on the photo blog he used to update. On the left you can click on previous years and go back through the updates. Good pics of Bryan, friends and site info.

I looked for the tab that you says Special on the top and it isn't there anymore.
Unless I'm not looking in the right spot. Just FYI.

[jaxon29]

It's at the top where it says Photos, Videos, Members, Special, Make Money, Shop, Contact, Join. I just checked and it's there before you sign in, but not there in the members area after you sign in. How weird. Look at the first page of the site before you log in. He hasn't posted anything since July 2006, but there's pictures and stuff back several years about his Sean Cody connection and move to San Diego. Interesting narrative and reading, at least I always enjoyed it. It's an insight into Bryan and the site that you don't get from most people.

[shotglass]

It's at the top where it says Photos, Videos, Members, Special, Make Money, Shop, Contact, Join. I just checked and it's there before you sign in, but not there in the members area after you sign in. How weird. Look at the first page of the site before you log in. He hasn't posted anything since July 2006, but there's pictures and stuff back several years about his Sean Cody connection and move to San Diego. Interesting narrative and reading, at least I always enjoyed it. It's an insight into Bryan and the site that you don't get from most people.

OK Jaxon, I found it, and was quite surprised what a neat expose' Bryan gives of himself in pictures and words. Rather refreshing to see a site owner open himself up for all to see who he really is and what makes him tick. I was amazed as to the dilema he had with himself as to living in San Diego and talking about it, didn't matter where he set up shop, because the vast majority of his models he has to pay to fly in and out to do a shoot. I can see where he really misses his home in Austin. And the help of both of his parents to help keep the site going. Also he reveals the different places he has worked as a photographer while still trying to keep the CM site going. Also surprised to hear him say that he's not the best photographer he can be. Like I've said before, I think his work is 2nd. to none, especially comparing his site to others. If your a member or not I would highly recommend this part of his site if you're interested. And I've noticed for sometime in his current vidoes that his records are being kept in Austin, rather than in San Diego.
A good read Jaxon, and thanks for letting us know!

[jaxon29]

I thought it was funny his parents help him with the business.They must be cool people. He was talking at one time of going back to Austin and I'd noticed the records were kept there now. Maybe his parents maintain the paperwork there if it doesn't have to actually be where the site is located. Loved seeing his house where he does his work and hearing about the drama of maintaining the biz. You rarely know anything about some of these webmasters but it gives you more respect for them and how hectic the work can be.

[Alpha1851]

Thanks for posting the info Jaxon.

[shotglass]

Looks like ChaosMen will have 3 updates this week. Today there are to new solo guy videos. Plus Pierre, looks like Stash from SC. Bryan said he did a solo on another site. Downloading both now will view later.

[shotglass]

Finally got a chance to see this weeks 2 solo's. Pierre is a guy with one HOT bod.
Rock hard abs., nice tan, and just enough hair in ALL the right places. Bryan starts out having him answer questions in Russian, then when he has him take his shirt off, Bry says to answer in English now. Sexy Russion accent. I see why Bryan had him talk in two languages. I know he was on another site recently, so he's probably making the rounds until he finds the right place and money to go further. Would love to see him in an "Edge" or "Service" video.
2nd. guy is named Caleb. Just turned 18. Very shy, dark hair young guy.
Both guys are uncut, but in Pierre's vid. you never see the forskin.
Not really into solo's except to see the guys interview, and of course in Pierre's case, He has a very appealing body to me. If he needs a room to stay in "Big 10" Country, I have a spare bedroom. Well he does need a room at least for his clothes and to study.

[Alpha1851]

I've looked at Bryan's old journal (thanks to Jaxon) and have noticed that he talks about a fellow named Ben an awful lot. So, is that his boyfried/partner...whatever it's called.

[jaxon29]

I don't think he's had a partner or anybody steady. He's had some close friends that he hangs with and they helped him move, etc., so Ben may be one of them. He's so open about things that if Ben's a boyfriend, he'd say so somewhere in there.

[shotglass]

I'm surprised this week's update has been up since early this morning and no comments.

I actually thought it was pretty good. Jonatan and Beau. Both guys have been on the site several times already. I read other like threads and guys are always asking for some variety in the guys, instead of the cookie cutters that appear week after week. In case no one knows Jonatan is Latin. This video had a lot of kissing before, during and after. But during, Jonatan fucks Beau like a JackRabbit. I'm mean he pounds him again, and again. And Beau is just begging and moaning for more. Very hot video and IMO both guys are pretty good looking.
I noticed both guys have shorter hair which make them look different from past videos.

I gotta give Bryan credit, at least he doesn't use the same guys week after week.

[jaxon29]

I haven't watched it yet. Jonatan is a model from the early days of CM and still looks great. The other day I was watching Wayne and his toy. Gosh, he's cute. I loved when he was fucking himself and had one leg in the air and then at the end when he had both legs on the headboard when he came. Good stuff. I hope he makes some return visits to CM.

[jaxon29]

Jonatan and Beau were both good in the video. Gay boys do know how to fuck. Sometimes I like a good fuck video where both are gay and know what they and the audience like.

[Alpha1851]

Since Bryan doesn't currently have a bf and hasn't had one in a long time, I'm beating that he's really straight and is only producing gay movies for the money. That's great news since I would be more than happy to leave my beau and head to Austin. I could win Bryan over in no time. Yeah, I'm obviously joking. Sort of...Bryan is soooo hot!

This weeks update sizzled! Jonatan (with his huge dick) and Beau (cute face and moaning) were fantastic! The best thing about this site is how the models treat each other. For example, on one of CF's recent updates, Nick is quick to explain that he only sucks dick on camera (translation: I'm really straight and wouldn't dare slurp on a sausage if I weren't being paid for it). If I were Jarred, I would've slapped Nick! Those types of comments just don't happen on CM. At the end of this video, Jonatan sweetly kissed Beau and told him that he had a hot ass. I loved it. It's obvious that they were enjoying it.

Of course, Beau was so cute towards the end. You could tell that he totally wanted to curl up, cuddle, and go to sleep while Jonatan was still rearing to go.

[miatajeff]

I agree that chaosmen rocks. The hottest guys are Zack who is just so damned hot in everything he does-but CM gets great stuff out of him! And Jack....whatever happened to Jack-he is such a hottie, I wish he could drag him back for a few scenes...

[collectivesoho2]

when is gage's next video??

he said in his previous vid that he'd be back

[jaxon29]

Not soon enough for me. He's a real cutie and so much hotter looking on CM than his SC appearance. I love the facial hair and am partial to guys with black hair. Oh, and the beautiful body and big dick are nice too.

[mahler1939]

Chaos Men is definitely HOT......I love the "Serviced" videos as some of the hottest guys get done. By the way, the guy doing the guys is hot as hell, as well. A great site for hot and beautiful guys. The video "Edge" will simply put you over the edge. I especially love watching the star of "Johnny Walker is Almost Straight" get that big and beautiful tool of his worked over. He is beautiful with those green eyes, gorgeous body....and everything else. Just love him and the video. Again, the guy who does the sucking is GORGEOUS and oh, so hot.

[Alpha1851]

Mahler, who is the the star of Johnny Walker is Almost Straight? The guy doing the "servicing" in the Edge/Serviced videos is Bryan, the producer. You're right, he is very hot!

[jaxon29]

Sometimes I order from TLA Video and was looking at the site today. There's a list of 'This Week's Top Selling Gay Adult Titles' and CM has three videos listed.
Edge Vol.1, Serviced Vol.1 and A to Z: Adam to Zack. Way to go CM!!

[shotglass]

Today's update features Bryson, who did a solo a liitle while back, and a friend of his named Caden. They've been friends since they were 12. Bry writes "I see other sites make claims but rarely does it strike me as 'Authentic' and I wanted to do a Real situation". After watching this vid. I believe that they really are Friends.

Bry also writes "Half this video is a giant Out Take"!" And this isn't a video to watch if you're expecting serious sex." I would agree with him, but still it's fun to watch two friends goofying around before it's time to bust a nut. AND they each had a good cum shot, surprisingly Caden came first, considering he had a hard time waking up his tool.

In this video Bryson looks hotter than in his solo. And Caden is not bad looking himself. Just two friends having fun, and at times it seemed awkward for the two of them to be JO side by side.

Afterwards, Bry asks them who is going to blow each other the next time. The look on their face was priceless. Then they busted out laughing.

Hope to see more of them in the future.